@Flaming_Kaiser - perhaps you do not understand the point being made. Nothing I said mentions freedom of speech, or pandering to entitled gamers. You are putting words in my mouth. I'm saying there are plenty of examples of manipulated critic reviews, that need to be called out.
It is freedom of expression that most of us enjoy that gives us the option to call bad practises out. Maybe some are justified, and others not. We can't have it both ways.
The problem with articles like this critiquing review bombing, which may or may not be valid in this case, is that with games like FIFA certain sites have written positive reviews to such an extent they looked to have been bought off, and don’t reflect reality. And then consumers give the real viewpoint calling out bad and terrible pay to win mechanics, especially if publishers update the game after positive reviews. Dragon’s Dogma 2 being one recent example.
For me it goes both ways. Publishers and official review sites are just as bad, if not worse.
Even if one could build a PC for the same cost as PS5 Pro, what would be the point? To go through all that hassle building a rig, installing and configuring windows, which is a huge kerfuffle, dealing with launchers and you still have to buy a keyboard, mouse and controller, only to then needing a decent monitor since PCs aren’t living room friendly. One would then want a much more powerful PC to make it worth it, so would cost more.
The PS5 pro is expensive for a home console, and concerning for game preservation and ownership in regards to the blu ray drive, but it’s cheap relative to PC gaming. Though the gap is narrowing.
If they released/announced Concord along with an announcement of one of their tentpole IPs, or something from Naughty Dog, it would've been a different outcome. As stated in the article, it is a symbol of the live service model, which is fine in itself as a second pillar, but it is seen as replacing what PS fans loves about Playstation.
Also, for me at least, and others who don't have PS Plus, there is an additional cost. Concord does look slick, well made with high production values, but it's only available if one has one of these online membership thingies. So immediately 40% or whatever the value is have no interest in it.
Tô me at least, they are tapping into “The Last of Us” vibe but set in Terminator world. Have these people no clue on what makes Terminator, Terminator. Films 1 and 2 are a big clue.
It’s horrendous the gaming world is in a massive decline, and maybe the release of this is too close to ”go live” to change it. But my goodness, this game has epic fail written all over it.
Live service is a different, another way to play games, and as gaming evolves, having options is a good thing. Though personally I have zero interest in them. The important thing is how it’s implemented, just like most things in life, there are good ways and bad ways. Splatoon is a great example of a live service game. Marvels avengers is a bad example.
Live service, early access, buggy on release, DLC blar blar, are not mutually exclusive. That being said, live service by its very nature will never have an end game. So releasing in a sub par state is par for the course. It is what it is. If it’s not your bag then there many other options available.
Since this is US Square, a PlayStation site, one does have to question Sony’s dipping their toe in the market. They have a model that works and is highly profitable, messing with that will not work well for them. I believe Sony are at a crossroads. They’ve been following the Nintendo route for a while now but seem to be in the middle of a fundamental shift. The future is uncertain.
The only reason subs exist in the first place is Microsoft, and the only reason they can do them is their deep pockets. And the only reason M$ set them up is that they thought with such an amazing deal gamers would come flocking over to them. They were wrong. As been mentioned in the article, having access to hundreds of games but little time to play them is pointless and a waste of money.
Spotify, the biggest music subscription service has never made a profit. It’s been kept afloat by investors. Subscription models are not the future.
I avoid movie/franchise tie-ins like the plague, but this game, even aside from being a Potter fan, looks amazing. And it keeps on getting better. Icing on the cake is that a day-one purchase will annoy some people.
I played it for a few hours on the PS4 but got distracted with…life. But with the PS5 upgrade I’ll give it another crack, after I’m done with Tsushima. I needed video game comfort food.
Ubisoft is a French firm but did their showcase in an American format and it was so cringeworthy awful. To be fair, all their E3 showcases were the most horrific, bar EA.
Part of what makes Nintendo directs so good is that they focus on the games, and do it in a Nintendo way. They stick to their strengths. Ubisoft are trying to be something they’re not.
And yet there still will be people defending digital over physical. I get it, there are advantages with digital but what the PS store tells us is is that if all there ever is to buy games is digital, it will be chuffing expensive. No one wants that.
It’s clear though that the price hike is to make up the loss that PS5s are being sold at. But it’s also commendable for a company to value their products and don’t discount them so much, as Nintendo does. My Switch library is worth a lot more than I paid for it, admittedly with some limited editions, than my PS4 library that’s worth half of what I paid, and that’s after a deep discount on all purchases; I never paid more than £30 for a title.
Currently playing TLOU2, and although there were some accidental spoilers on PS, by accident, that gave me an idea of some of criticisms, though I don’t concur, it’s a very enjoyable, yet gripping 😬 game. I get how a multiplayer can work in ND’s world.
But, it’s all about the single player cinematic experience for me. I understand creators, directors, artists wish to flex their muscles, but not at the expense of selling out, which this could be. But if it’s a Lost Legacy approach, then crack on.
It's quite a risky strategy in my opinion. What if gamer x is interested in six big publishers, all charging £9.99 a month? No one wants to pay £60 a month, every month, especially if it includes games they don't want.
Although it went on a while I thought it was a great conference, definitely the best Microsoft one I've seen. If I didn't own a PS4 it would certainly make me think of buying an XBox, of course that will never happen.
Apart from the annoying music at the beginning it was OK. Rage 2 was the big one and looked awesome, and the other good stuff was just teasers; Doom 2, TES6 and Starfield.. Fallout 76 won't be for me as well as the mobile stuff.
Unless Sony come up with a surprise or two, it's Nintendo's to lose. All four of Sony's exclusives look amazing, though half are somewhat unknown, but it's the surprises which thrill and people remember most.
Though MS will no doubt do their usual showing off but delivering nothing, they do have Cyberpunk which is set to be massive.
I have literally no interest in Death Stranding and we know very little of Ghost, so it was a toss up between Spidey and TLOU2 so I went with Spidey. For me that's incredible as I'm so put off with all the Marvel/comic book stuff these days; we're so over-saturated with the stuff and I find it all a bit 'meh'.
I haven't played The Witcher 3 yet, it's sitting on my shelf waiting for a spare six months. But Cyberpunk 2077, along with Metroid Prime 4 are easily my most anticipated games for E3.
@JoeBlogs - having no experience of GOW before I was like a rabbit in some headlights. My gaming tastes and behaviour was also much different then, if a game didn't grab me I would sell it immediately and move on. Now I keep all games I buy and give them all a fair chance.
@Flaming_Kaiser - I have been, though the crime was slightly more than a gaming faux pas.
I've only played GOW 3 and I couldn't stand it. After ten minutes it was ejected and placed on a popular auction site. However, this new one looks utterly incredible and I can't wait to try it.
I have a large backlog as it is for my PS4, Switch and 3DS to think about making it worse with another system. Plus for me there doesn't seem to be that Super Mario 64 title to make me think I'm missing out.
It’s a great list, just not as great as 2017. Spider-Man is my most anticipated, which is something I never thought I’d here myself say. Followed by NNK2 and possibly GOW4. May get Y6 if I complete Y0.
I enjoyed the first two games immensely, but 3 started to go downhill and Paradise continues going downhill from what I've read. It's EA making it more "EA" and so automatically becomes worse off.
That being said, I'm still intrigued by Paradise but it's EA so it gets a hard pass, as per all EA games.
I couldn't get into MH on the 3DS, and by the sounds of it I won't on the PS4 either, which is surprising considering the previews and news suggested it was better for non-experienced MH players.
Maybe when the backlog clears I'll give this a shot, but not anytime soon.
For me, having access to hundreds of games is the last thing I want. I have limited time and money, plus other systems, so I choose my games and when I buy them wisely.
I really can't see Sony adopting this method. Why would they upset the apple cart when they are doing so well.
Thing is, there are plenty of examples where on-line only, multiplayer loot infested DLC ridden games have also failed miserably. The market is only so big and some of these games consume so much time there isn't time for others, which is another reason why single player games are so important.
Sure, single player games have taken a beaten but the industry couldn't survive without them. Thankfully Sony and Nintendo know how to make and sell single player games.
Finally - been holding out for the complete edition and my patience is rewarded. Now if we can finally get the Nioh complete package, physically, and my 2017 purchases will be complete.
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Re: Metacritic Responds to Ongoing Dragon Age: The Veilguard Review Bombing Campaign
@Flaming_Kaiser - perhaps you do not understand the point being made. Nothing I said mentions freedom of speech, or pandering to entitled gamers. You are putting words in my mouth. I'm saying there are plenty of examples of manipulated critic reviews, that need to be called out.
It is freedom of expression that most of us enjoy that gives us the option to call bad practises out. Maybe some are justified, and others not. We can't have it both ways.
Re: Metacritic Responds to Ongoing Dragon Age: The Veilguard Review Bombing Campaign
The problem with articles like this critiquing review bombing, which may or may not be valid in this case, is that with games like FIFA certain sites have written positive reviews to such an extent they looked to have been bought off, and don’t reflect reality. And then consumers give the real viewpoint calling out bad and terrible pay to win mechanics, especially if publishers update the game after positive reviews. Dragon’s Dogma 2 being one recent example.
For me it goes both ways. Publishers and official review sites are just as bad, if not worse.
Re: Sony Boss Says 'PCs Are Difficult to Set Up', Firm Will Focus on PS5
Even if one could build a PC for the same cost as PS5 Pro, what would be the point? To go through all that hassle building a rig, installing and configuring windows, which is a huge kerfuffle, dealing with launchers and you still have to buy a keyboard, mouse and controller, only to then needing a decent monitor since PCs aren’t living room friendly. One would then want a much more powerful PC to make it worth it, so would cost more.
The PS5 pro is expensive for a home console, and concerning for game preservation and ownership in regards to the blu ray drive, but it’s cheap relative to PC gaming. Though the gap is narrowing.
Re: Talking Point: Can PS5, PC Shooter Concord Be Saved?
If they released/announced Concord along with an announcement of one of their tentpole IPs, or something from Naughty Dog, it would've been a different outcome. As stated in the article, it is a symbol of the live service model, which is fine in itself as a second pillar, but it is seen as replacing what PS fans loves about Playstation.
Also, for me at least, and others who don't have PS Plus, there is an additional cost. Concord does look slick, well made with high production values, but it's only available if one has one of these online membership thingies. So immediately 40% or whatever the value is have no interest in it.
Re: Terminator Survivors Announced for PS5, a Solo or Co-Op Survival Game
Tô me at least, they are tapping into “The Last of Us” vibe but set in Terminator world. Have these people no clue on what makes Terminator, Terminator. Films 1 and 2 are a big clue.
It’s horrendous the gaming world is in a massive decline, and maybe the release of this is too close to ”go live” to change it. But my goodness, this game has epic fail written all over it.
Re: Mini Review: Quake II (PS5) - A Remastered Classic with Real Bang for Your Buck
US Square, at least compared to NintenosLife, 9/10 times will always set a score 1 or 2 less. It’s amazing how many times that happens.
Re: Poll: Is 'Live Service' Becoming an Excuse to Release Unfinished Games?
@Northern_munkey - “well, we’re waiting”. One of the funniest films ever made.
Re: Poll: Is 'Live Service' Becoming an Excuse to Release Unfinished Games?
Live service is a different, another way to play games, and as gaming evolves, having options is a good thing. Though personally I have zero interest in them. The important thing is how it’s implemented, just like most things in life, there are good ways and bad ways. Splatoon is a great example of a live service game. Marvels avengers is a bad example.
Live service, early access, buggy on release, DLC blar blar, are not mutually exclusive. That being said, live service by its very nature will never have an end game. So releasing in a sub par state is par for the course. It is what it is. If it’s not your bag then there many other options available.
Since this is US Square, a PlayStation site, one does have to question Sony’s dipping their toe in the market. They have a model that works and is highly profitable, messing with that will not work well for them. I believe Sony are at a crossroads. They’ve been following the Nintendo route for a while now but seem to be in the middle of a fundamental shift. The future is uncertain.
Re: Soapbox: I No Longer Think Subscriptions Like PS Plus, Xbox Game Pass Are the Future of Gaming
The only reason subs exist in the first place is Microsoft, and the only reason they can do them is their deep pockets. And the only reason M$ set them up is that they thought with such an amazing deal gamers would come flocking over to them. They were wrong. As been mentioned in the article, having access to hundreds of games but little time to play them is pointless and a waste of money.
Spotify, the biggest music subscription service has never made a profit. It’s been kept afloat by investors. Subscription models are not the future.
Re: Harry Potter Game Hogwarts Legacy Looks Like Pure PS5 Magic in Huge Showcase
I avoid movie/franchise tie-ins like the plague, but this game, even aside from being a Potter fan, looks amazing. And it keeps on getting better. Icing on the cake is that a day-one purchase will annoy some people.
Re: Poll: Are You Playing The Witcher 3's PS5 Upgrade?
I played it for a few hours on the PS4 but got distracted with…life. But with the PS5 upgrade I’ll give it another crack, after I’m done with Tsushima. I needed video game comfort food.
Re: Reaction: Publishers Are Getting Worse at Nintendo Direct-Style Livestreams
Ubisoft is a French firm but did their showcase in an American format and it was so cringeworthy awful. To be fair, all their E3 showcases were the most horrific, bar EA.
Part of what makes Nintendo directs so good is that they focus on the games, and do it in a Nintendo way. They stick to their strengths. Ubisoft are trying to be something they’re not.
Re: Gamescom Opening Night Live Stream Is Somehow Two Hours Long with Over 30 Games
Please make him stop! Though, the worst part of the previous presentation was that Dwane wrestling guy’s bit. Truly awful
Re: PS5 Hardware Resurges in UK After Dismal Start to the Year
Finally managed to secure the disc version last night. For those in the UK, Argos still had some this morning when I checked.
Now the difficult task of choosing the first up from my wishlist. Ratchet & Clank and Demon’s Souls I think.
Re: Talking Point: Is Sony Being Stingy with PS5's First-Party Pricing?
And yet there still will be people defending digital over physical. I get it, there are advantages with digital but what the PS store tells us is is that if all there ever is to buy games is digital, it will be chuffing expensive. No one wants that.
It’s clear though that the price hike is to make up the loss that PS5s are being sold at. But it’s also commendable for a company to value their products and don’t discount them so much, as Nintendo does. My Switch library is worth a lot more than I paid for it, admittedly with some limited editions, than my PS4 library that’s worth half of what I paid, and that’s after a deep discount on all purchases; I never paid more than £30 for a title.
Re: Reaction: PlayStation Showcase 2021 Was Good, But Not Good Enough
If had the worst start to a gaming showcase I’ve ever seen. Truly awful. And aside a few nuggets, it never recovered.
Re: Naughty Dog's Multiplayer Game Described as Cinematic Experience Between Players
Currently playing TLOU2, and although there were some accidental spoilers on PS, by accident, that gave me an idea of some of criticisms, though I don’t concur, it’s a very enjoyable, yet gripping 😬 game. I get how a multiplayer can work in ND’s world.
But, it’s all about the single player cinematic experience for me. I understand creators, directors, artists wish to flex their muscles, but not at the expense of selling out, which this could be. But if it’s a Lost Legacy approach, then crack on.
Re: YouTuber Racks Up Millions of Views Unboxing Rare, Retro PlayStation Gear in ASMR
Nothing worse in the world than unboxing videos, except for ASMR unboxing videos.
Re: How Closely Were You Watching the PS5 Reveal Event?
12 out of 15 and I got the first question wrong - bit of a trick question.
Re: Can You Name These PS1 Games?
4/15, and half of those was a process of elimination. But then I never had a PS1; the only PS I didn’t own.
Re: Poll: How Will You Play Ghost of Tsushima?
How will I play - on the sofa, at night, with the lights off and a nice ice cold beer.
Re: Streaming Devices Will Kill Traditional Consoles Within the Next 10 Years, Says EA
It's quite a risky strategy in my opinion. What if gamer x is interested in six big publishers, all charging £9.99 a month? No one wants to pay £60 a month, every month, especially if it includes games they don't want.
Re: Guide: New PS4 Games Releasing in July 2018
Nada until September when Spidey and DQ releases, except maybe Red Faction when it's around £10.
Re: Reaction: Microsoft's E3 2018 Press Conference Was Killer for PS4 Owners
Although it went on a while I thought it was a great conference, definitely the best Microsoft one I've seen. If I didn't own a PS4 it would certainly make me think of buying an XBox, of course that will never happen.
Re: Talking Point: Was Bethesda's Press Conference Brilliant or a Bust?
Apart from the annoying music at the beginning it was OK. Rage 2 was the big one and looked awesome, and the other good stuff was just teasers; Doom 2, TES6 and Starfield.. Fallout 76 won't be for me as well as the mobile stuff.
Re: Talking Point: How Can Sony Win E3 2018?
Unless Sony come up with a surprise or two, it's Nintendo's to lose. All four of Sony's exclusives look amazing, though half are somewhat unknown, but it's the surprises which thrill and people remember most.
Though MS will no doubt do their usual showing off but delivering nothing, they do have Cyberpunk which is set to be massive.
Re: Poll: Which PS4 Exclusive Has You Most Hyped at Sony's E3 2018 Showcase?
I have literally no interest in Death Stranding and we know very little of Ghost, so it was a toss up between Spidey and TLOU2 so I went with Spidey. For me that's incredible as I'm so put off with all the Marvel/comic book stuff these days; we're so over-saturated with the stuff and I find it all a bit 'meh'.
Re: Guide: New PS4 Games Releasing in June 2018
Only Lumines Remastered for me this month, though I'll probably get it for the Switch.
Re: Review: Detroit: Become Human (PS4)
I'm generally not into these sorts of games, but I'm certainly intrigued by Detroit. Will probably pick this up but will wait for a price drop.
Re: Soapbox: Cyberpunk 2077 Could Quite Easily Dominate E3 2018
I haven't played The Witcher 3 yet, it's sitting on my shelf waiting for a spare six months. But Cyberpunk 2077, along with Metroid Prime 4 are easily my most anticipated games for E3.
Re: Guide: Best God of War Games Ranked
@JoeBlogs - having no experience of GOW before I was like a rabbit in some headlights. My gaming tastes and behaviour was also much different then, if a game didn't grab me I would sell it immediately and move on. Now I keep all games I buy and give them all a fair chance.
@Flaming_Kaiser - I have been, though the crime was slightly more than a gaming faux pas.
Re: Guide: Best God of War Games Ranked
I've only played GOW 3 and I couldn't stand it. After ten minutes it was ejected and placed on a popular auction site. However, this new one looks utterly incredible and I can't wait to try it.
Re: Red Faction Guerrilla Is Getting Re-Mars-tered for PS4
I miss this type of game, mindless destruction. Played the original and I generally never replay games or double dip, but I may have to with this one.
Re: No Man's Sky NEXT is the Game's 'Largest Update So Far', Coming This Summer
Great Bowie quote.
My copy is still wrapped on my shelf. I'll look forward to playing it when the final product is out.
Re: PlayStation VR Becomes Even More Affordable as Sony Cuts Prices
I have a large backlog as it is for my PS4, Switch and 3DS to think about making it worse with another system. Plus for me there doesn't seem to be that Super Mario 64 title to make me think I'm missing out.
Re: Rumour: An Open World Star Wars Game is in Development at EA Vancouver
What's disappointing with this article is that it seems that EA hasn't been stripped of the Star Wars license. Hope...
Re: Poll: How Strong Do You Think the PS4's Exclusive Lineup Is in 2018?
It’s a great list, just not as great as 2017. Spider-Man is my most anticipated, which is something I never thought I’d here myself say. Followed by NNK2 and possibly GOW4. May get Y6 if I complete Y0.
Re: Unbelievable Breaking News: The Battlefield 2018 Reveal Trailer Is Underway
"looks for video clip of man falling out of his chair at some wrestling program".
Re: Kingdom Come: Deliverance Tops 1 Million Sales in Under Two Weeks
I didn't know about until the review popped up, and I peruse PS and NL daily.
Still, great news to hear.
Re: No More Delays for Ni no Kuni II as the RPG Finally Goes Gold
One of the few games I may get at launch, or close to launch.
Re: Burnout Paradise Remastered Finally Confirmed, First Footage and Screenshots Revealed
I enjoyed the first two games immensely, but 3 started to go downhill and Paradise continues going downhill from what I've read. It's EA making it more "EA" and so automatically becomes worse off.
That being said, I'm still intrigued by Paradise but it's EA so it gets a hard pass, as per all EA games.
Re: Ubisoft Focusing on Adding More DLC to Assassin's Creed Origins
May actually pick up my first Assassin's Creed game, when the inevitable GOTY edition releases.
Re: Review: Monster Hunter: World (PS4)
I couldn't get into MH on the 3DS, and by the sounds of it I won't on the PS4 either, which is surprising considering the previews and news suggested it was better for non-experienced MH players.
Maybe when the backlog clears I'll give this a shot, but not anytime soon.
Re: God of War PS4 Release Date Finally Confirmed, New Trailer Released
Only played GOW3 for thirty minutes and couldn't stand it. But this...looks...epic. I reckon not buying this would be a travesty.
Re: Talking Point: Could Microsoft's Xbox Game Pass Model Work on PS4?
For me, having access to hundreds of games is the last thing I want. I have limited time and money, plus other systems, so I choose my games and when I buy them wisely.
I really can't see Sony adopting this method. Why would they upset the apple cart when they are doing so well.
Re: 'People Ask for Story-Based Games, But Don't Necessarily Buy Them'
Thing is, there are plenty of examples where on-line only, multiplayer loot infested DLC ridden games have also failed miserably. The market is only so big and some of these games consume so much time there isn't time for others, which is another reason why single player games are so important.
Sure, single player games have taken a beaten but the industry couldn't survive without them. Thankfully Sony and Nintendo know how to make and sell single player games.
Re: Fe May Ship with Some Form of In-Game Purchases
Instant pass. As soon as the mob hear about this the game will fail, ea never learn.
Re: Bungie Plans on Making a Lot of Changes to Destiny 2, Details it All in New Blog Post
To me this reads like..."We can't polish a turd so we'll roll it in glitter".
Re: Some Kind of Final Fantasy XV Complete Edition Leaked Through Ratings Board
Finally - been holding out for the complete edition and my patience is rewarded. Now if we can finally get the Nioh complete package, physically, and my 2017 purchases will be complete.
Re: What Happens When You Show Shadow of the Colossus to a Kid?
@Th3solution - you've restored my enthusiasm, many thanks