MrGawain

I get the feeling a lot of companies are saving their best ideas for Next Gen. At least the western ones.

Thank Miyamoto for the Switch.

It’s likely to be 18 months away, so you could assume those parts will cost less than they do now.

Still think around £500 is about right.

Was it better than Playstation's showing?

Yes.

Both Microsoft and Sony are in the same boat to end the generation, 3 or so big 1st party games until the next thing comes along which will you’ll undoubtedly be able to play those three games on with better graphics. If you haven’t bought an XB1 yet (like me), you aren’t going to buy one now.

The most interesting thing they said however was their Streaming Service was starting up a month before Google’s Stadia. As someone without a horse in the race, I’m still curious to see which (or both) of them will end up with a bloody nose, and if Sony (or even Nintendo) will join them.

Let's be honest: it's getting a remaster to sell it to owners of a certain handheld system, and they're porting it to the PS4 as well because why not. RPG's work incredibly well on the Switch because you can play them on a bus and they aren't graphically intensive or need a lot of fast reactions.

As far as I can see Stadia is for affluent people who have super fast broadband but have never played a videogame but would like to try Assassins Creed. To me it doesn’t seem particularly cheap, reliable, needs you to be quite tech savvy, and offers nothing in the way of desirable 1st party offerings like Mario, Halo, or Uncharted.

And be honest, if you like video games chances are you’re buying a system because you want to play those particular games instead of the slightly wonky 3rd party stuff.

I do find it very odd that we all in this day and age (myself included) care more about news than actual content. You could argue that reveals and trailers and spoilers and discussion videos actually drain us of excitement by the time the product finally arrives. Even something like Game Of Thrones had so much speculation and investigation that we had all built up a story 10 times greater in our heads than what we got.

Personally I think we need to shorten the hype schedule and if Sony haven’t got anything to sell to us, we should just accept that. I would much prefer the PS5 to arrive with something worthwhile to play from the get go than potential and cutscene trailers.

Personally I don’t think it’s my sort of thing, but I am curious to see if it joins the 10m+ club. Or is it a lot more niche than GOW, Spider-Man and Uncharted?

I do question how far into the PS5’s life it will be when we’ll get an exclusive PS5 title not on the PS4? Because it sort of makes sense for 3rd party at least to just make PS4 games. Making a PS5 exclusive game will have greater development costs due to having to make everything shiny for all those K’s you need to show off on the telly, AND will have a much smaller possible customer pool to sell to.

At the moment I can’t really picture in my mind what radical improvement/difference the PS5 can bring to the PS4. The Switch brought me something better than the Wii U and solved a problem I didn’t know I had. Improved graphics will only have so much impact on a guy with a crappy TV and scratched glasses.

Not saying the PS5 won’t be fantastic, or bring new ideas, but at the moment I’m a little cold to a new console until I see it with my own eyes.

Beyond being judged against MK8, what bad planning for both Sonic Kart and Crash Kart to release within weeks of each other.

I've enjoyed my PS4 for it's spectacle gaming, but a lot of the time it's like watching a film on a TV than playing a quick game. Western developers are big on cinematics where you don't touch the controller for 10 minutes.

I like the Switch as it's more about immediate fun- just as the majority of the Japanese games I play. I wonder if that's something baked into japanese gaming culture?

I get the feeling we’re in the period of the PS4 lifespan where we’ve hit the heights in the mid to mid-late section (Nier, Spider Man, God Of War etc...), and now everything else being judged against those games are never going to hit the same heights. I wouldn’t call it filler, just not as good as the glory days.

I bought Devil May Cry and enjoyed that, but nothing else really springs out to be worth my money.

I question if SF’s high jumping, projectile characters work in a 3D space, and if Tekken’s more realistic fighting characters work in a 2D space? Seems like you would have to alter the essence of the characters to get them to fit the other game.

To me it would be like putting Superman in Star Wars.

It’s pretty obvious Sony are waiting to see what the new XB is going to be before announcing anything else. From all the rumours Microsoft are going to have the more powerful machine, so the PlayStation is going to have to be a far more financially appealing option. Plus you’ll see Sony gazump a XB2 reveal by announcing some big titles launching with the PS5- they still are going to have a more diverse lineup than the FPS heavy XBox.

I'm okay with this, still haven't completed the game and looking to continue playing once the story is over to improve some of my ranks and find the hidden stuff.

@JoeBlogs

But to the average PS4 owner who is a borderline casual fan (me for example), I don't see the size of the horde. I see a browny-grey looking open world game where you shoot guns and try to avoid zombie monsters. It doesn't have a guy in a Spider suit or a guy with a big flying axe fighting ogres or robot dinosaurs. That's the sort of thing to get the non commited PS4 owner to part with their cash.

Not to say it won't be a great game, but it's a harder sell with this visual/genre hanging around it's neck.

The biggest problem this game has is it isn’t half as exciting as Spider-Man, or God Of War, or Horizon Zero Dawn.

It looks like a lot of other Zombie games before it, despite what the quality of the game is.

P S5

And because you can add a letter and get a rude word, it won’t be called that.

I’ll always remember that interview he had with the bare knuckle boxer when he asked if the guy could show him how he fought or something so he punched Dyer in the face.

Instead of it being a bunch of products that needed an advert, it felt like an advert that needed a bunch of products. If there wasn’t anything big enough to celebrate, why bother with such an elaborate set up?

The truth is XB1 is not a direct competitor to Nintendo. If you want to play high def shooters you own an XB1, if you want to play more quirky family friendly stuff that isn't so bothered with 4K but works as a handheld then you get a Switch. I think most people would agree Cuphead will sell better to the Nintendo audience so it being on the Switch helps the developer.

As for PS4, it's that middle console that's competing for both markets, so it's unsurprising that relations aren't so friendly.

I’ve bought it and I’m trying to teach my fingers it’s not Bayonetta.

“The most important things to remember about backstory are that (a) everyone has a history and (b) most of it isn’t very interesting."

-Stephen King.

Sony have every right to only allow what they want on their platform.

Just as we are in our rights to support or not support a company due to their business practises.

We all know the deal now: PS4 and XB1 gets games first to play in high graphical fidelity, then the Switch gets those games 6 months or so later for people to play on the go but less pretty and with a little extra to sweeten the deal for double dippers.

It’s just up to the consumer if you buy the early PS4/XB1 version, or wait in hope for it to come to Switch.

"The World is changing."

Like Sony is changing by not making any moe PS4 games beyond what's announced.

The white one isn’t really flattering on Spidey, is it? #doesmybumlookbiginthis?

COD. Battlefield. Battlefront. Halo. Titanfall. Rainbow 6. The Division. Over watch. Player Unknown. Warframe. Fortnite. Splatoon. Anthem coming. Dozens more. And Fallout 76!

Maybe... just maybe there may be more online shooters on the market than the market can support? Destiny cost a lot, so maybe Activision aren’t wrong in axing it with the thought of loot boxes being banned. Let’s be honest, cash will come before art because without cash art doesn’t get made.

If I were Bungie I wouldn’t be so certain that Destiny going forward is a viable business model- unless they plan to cut costs or change how the game is paid for- which isn’t so easy in this race to F2P these days.

Depends. When are they going to have something big and 1st party to sell?

If I sell hula hoops, and 99% of my customers have hula hoops, and I barely have anything new in hula hoop technology to flog for a year, why would I rent a market stall with barely any product on it? Same for Sony, most of the core games market owns a PS4 and they know about the last few bits to come out on it. Showing the same demo's again of those last 3 games is just going to annoy people, and obviously the PS5 isn't going to be ready this year.

In my opinion the next gen of the PS/XB war will be won on who has the best exclusive launch games on their system, which takes a page out of how successful Ninty was with a jam packed first year for the Switch. I doubt that one console or the other will be massively overpowered to the other, so Sony are holding back their big guns to get early adopters next gen- even if they are going to release the last 3 games on both the PS4 and PS5.

Playing through this after getting it for 20 quid in a sale. I'm enjoying it, although it is very stop and start from lots of things attacking to 2 minute dialogue scenes. where you have no control. It's more of a switching brawler game to animated movie thing.

I think about all the story games that I have loved enough to buy DLC for, and in every instance I’ve felt bored, short changed, duped, or just apathetic for another 5-10% of a lesser version of what I’ve just played. And they’ve actually tarnished my memory of what I’ve played.

Actually the only DLC I’ve been impressed by was Mario Kart 8.

Let’s be honest: at this stage in the life of the PS4 most people who wanted one have bought one, there is far less new games driving sales, an the PS5 is looming on the horizon.

What I do find interesting is how the list of Switch games are all different genres. Nintendo has worked well to make a diverse selection of games and they all seem to be selling well- at least in Japan.

It wouldn’t hurt for Sony to take note and add some wrinkles into the mass of over the shoulder sandbox/story based adventure games.

Let’s be brutally honest, 99% of PS4 owners have either forgotten about this, didn’t know in the first place, or don’t have the slightest idea of what it is.

It certainly backs up the argument you shouldn’t announce a game more than 6-8 months out.

@dani_i89

3 games isn’t much to convince a Nintendo fan like me to buy an XB1 though, is it? For the people that like XBox I’m happy they love it, but it definitely has a limited market- just like Nintendo isn’t going to be drawing in people that want shooters and Assassins Creed type games.

For the XB2 (or whatever the name is) to grow it’s user base it needs to draw in a new crowd of players. The XB1 only has 30 million consoles sold, and probably only 20 million people who bought those. Variety in games lineup will bring in more players.

If I were Sony I’d call it the PS6. A little bit of tippex to add an ‘i’ to all those P S5 consoles in a warehouse somewhere and they could have an incident on their hands....

Anyone would have thought they had replaced pretty much their entire management team in the past year.

My biggest issue with Playstation is they have put all their eggs into one basket by making lots of similiar sandbox games that they hype forever and a day. That isn't a balanced ecosphere of gaming and I'm starting to get a bit bored of it. Of course Nintendo is exciting at the moment with stuff like Splatoon, Arms, Octopath, Smash, and even Labo which dares to be different. Frankly if I never craft a pair of longjohns out of some cowhide and rivergrass and then stealthily raid a bandit camp it'll be too soon.

E3 is where mainstream media covers gaming, so yes it’s still relevant.

The question is does Sony have anything that hasn’t been revealed for 2019? Because it’s not just E3 they’ve exited from in the next 12 months, but their own event.

From a monetary position this makes sense: if they have nothing to say, then why pay a fortune to stand on a stage and twiddle your thumbs?

But from a fan psychology position people are going to ask: ‘so does this mean they’ll be diddly squat new on the PS4 in 2019?’ Does it make people think twice about getting a PS4 for Christmas in anticipation for TLOU2 and Death Stranding next year? It feels like 2016 for the Wii U. Yeah they’ve got 3rd party but COD and Assassins Creed for another year are getting on people’s nerves. I get the feeling I may never buy another PS5 game again (depending on Kingdom Hearts 3).

Admittedly it doesn’t mean XB1 will be stealing players as there isn’t much on the horizon there either, but I do think people will consider in investing in a Switch as what seems the only vibrant platform with big exclusives coming in 2019. Curious to see if the PS5 launches with a heavy weighted games lineup.

Personally I'm of the opinion that XB suffers from having a lot of grey/brown/beige games where you shoot things and not much else. As a primary Nintendo player their console does nothing for me, whereas PS has a selection of japanese stuff/colourful 1st party games that got me to buy a PS4.

If Microsoft can use these developers to broaden their genres maybe they'll do better, but if all they do is make more Gears of Halo clones then they won't be doing much than making their current fanbase happy.

I think the biggest thing Sony are lacking in their lineup is a bit more humourous/lighthearted franchise. Uncharted, GOW, TLOF, HZD, and Spidey are great for their audience, but I get the feeling Ratchet and Clank, Little Big Planet and Knack aren't anywhere in comparison to what Nintendo does. It really wouldn't hurt putting some more good cartoony fun platformers and alike to appeal to a broader cusomer base. I know I wouldn't mind it.

When you think about it, the PS1 has aged horribly. I loved Destruction Derby, FFVII and Tekken 3 when I was a kid, but I don't have the same desire to play them as I did the SNES classics.

To be honest if I didn't like a game I wouldn't buy the DLC. If I did like the game (Like Spiderman) and played it for 50-100 hours, I don't know if I would want more after spending so long with it.

Seeing there are 3-5 big 1st party titles left (and they cancelled the PS event this year so they aren't going to anything that big any more), you would guess were around 18 months away from a new generation.

I wouldn't be surprised if they ship it Q1 2020 so they don't experience stock shortages at Christmas.

At this point with Nintendo's inspired plan to release the Switch with an absolutely massive tentpole title that sold lots and lots of consoles and then brought out another six months later, I feel Sony would be smart to release the PS5 with The Last of Us 2, then follow it up with Death Stranding. Neither really float my boat, but it would make a lot of Mature PS4 owners early adopters of the PS5. Why waste a 'console seller' on a system that has probably reached full price sales saturation?

My friend is obsessed with getting this game. I don’t know why but it leaves me quite unimpressed. Waiting for something I haven’t seen before.

I’m not sure if I’m more frustrated that Capcom seem to have forgotten that the journey and challenge is what makes this sort of game work, or that there is a group of people out there that will buy this so they can quickly platinum a game to impress a friends list that doesn’t actually care about how clever you are for robbing yourself of the content of a game.

The only reason Capcom does it is because they know people will pay for it.

What does it do? I found out. It causes the phantom disc ejection fault to come back on my PS4. Had to redownload it in safe mode.

At least I've heard about it now. For a while now I've only turned on my PS4 to watch Netflix and SKY but I hope to be playing Spider-Man soon and there's nothing I hate more than my 'quick half hour' of playtime being eaten into by one of these updates that really don't make owning a PS4 any better for me personally.