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@nessisonett I think only 50 or more games so far have touch controls for xCloud on Game Pass. Definitely not the entire library so I think it's implemented by the devs themselves

@Rob_230 I'd like to think Sony has more control over what happens with the Spider-Man games given Marvel doesn't self-publish games based on any of their characters

Even if they're re-released, they're done through the same publishers of said original game like what happened with the first two Ultimate Alliance games or the re-release of UMvC3. It's actually a more different situation than what's happening here than people might think at first

I didn't really love Detroit or even that style of game that much but I hear this is pretty engaging so might check it out during a sale.

Guess we're adding Erica to the list as well now

@lolwhatno Bandai Namco isn't part of this lineup so that's extremely unlikely

Konami being there can go one of three ways

Either they reveal some disposable multiplatform sports game (60%), a hacked up entry in one of their beloved series (39%), or possibly something we actually want (1%)

@Voltan I can understand a few of those considering they came out pretty close to launch and those developers probably wanted to incorporate those in as technical showpieces for the console, especially in Call of Duty's case since I'm pretty sure this was a launch title

But it's not like EVERY multiplatform game on PS5 is going to use those features. The only safe bets especially down the line are probably going to be first/second party games or games that are timed exclusives

Feels weird to list it not using the DualSense properly as a con considering it's multiplatform

I'm pretty sure very few multiplats on Switch really used HD Rumble for its intended haptic features for example. I'd expect more proper utilization of those features from stuff like first or second party games or timed exclusives at the very least

So basically
Epic + Orgasm?

@carlos82 Ultra Street Fighter II is weird

Like in individual screenshots the game actually looks really good but the thing is they didn't update ANY of the animations from Super Turbo so the really good looking fighter art clashes with the lack of fluidity in their movement

The one thing I might be sad to see go now Sony has control of EVO is probably Smash

Smash was always one of two or three games I'd ALWAYS tune into EVO to see. Competitive Smash in general is so exhilirating to watch and the only other fighting games that come even close to that kind of spectacle imo are the ArcSys stuff

@twitchtvpat I'm not saying it doesn't have games. I'm saying that a statement made that early when they had almost nothing to show for it at launch was extremely reaching

Most of the actual exclusives are coming starting this year, and even then there's still one or two cross gen games in the pipeline as is

I will be diving back into Persona 4 Golden on PC as well as Strikers

In addition to that I just got 3D All Stars on Switch so I'm currently playing Galaxy for the first time in about 9 years

@Playstation OG Xbox needs work but it's honestly probably the best BC program on a home console since maybe the Wii's Virtual Console otherwise

Plus they went an extra step for select 360 games and basically gave them soft-remasters to make them gel better with new hardware

@sanderson72 Honestly at this point I don't even know what to believe that comes out of Jim Ryan's mouth anymore

This is the same guy who said stuff like "we believe in generations" despite the fact the PS5 launched with only one true exclusive and a bunch of cross gen stuff, as well as the same guy who believed Game Pass wasn't sustainable for them but now not only are they considering a Game Pass equivalent, but a Sony first party game will launch on Game Pass day 1

At this point whatever PlayStation management does is completely unpredictable. All I know is that I still care about the games that come out of them

@PhhhCough August 27th: "The day Vita was taken off Vita support"

@JaysonWayne3121 I mean PlayStation isn't absolutely seeped in negativity right now but this is still a big deal and it has a bad look on them regardless given how dense these libraries are and their perceived lack of interest in their back catalogue

@Medic_Alert That really is the unfortunate reality

There are things Microsoft can definitely take notes from Sony on in regards to improving their consoles but there are definitely things Sony should probably take notice of from Microsoft when people are championing them as a company that puts gamers first despite the fact Sony themselves still make pretty killer software

The PS1 Classics are definitely the loss that hits the hardest

Just saying, if Sony is going to do something this big in like 4 months they better have an intent behind it like actually introducing some sort of legacy BC program for their older titles so they aren't completely rendered inaccessible for most people

@PapaGlitch Marvel Games made it vehemently clear they have no intention of moving the Spider-Man game rights to another developer for the foreseeable future

As far as we know Insomniac is going to be making Spider-Man games for a long time but he is also a character Marvel completely own so there's a grey area in regards to whether he can branch out to other platforms

@Flaming_Kaiser This is the one with Dante

@GADG3Tx87 I love Silent Hill but jesus that collection was a basic class in how not to do remasters/ports

The games themselves are great but in the context of the collection it's awful

1. LittleBigPlanet
2. Uncharted 3: Drake's Deception
3. The Last of Us
4. Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots
5. inFAMOUS 2
6. Ratchet & Clank: Tools of Destruction
7. Demon's Souls
8. Yakuza 5
9. Tales of Xillia
10. Ni No Kuni: Wrath of the White Witch

@Max_the_German Souls actually has a pretty sizable Japanese fanbase but I'd assume most of them came from the Dark Souls games. Demon's Souls was initially poised to sell poorly in that region on PS3 due to the negative reaction surrounding the pre-release demo's difficulty but it picked up steam significantly by the end of the year once positive word of mouth spread among the region, especially based on reviews from sites like Dengeki PlayStation

Hopping on Steam right now for this

SMT3 I still think is outclassed by Digital Devil Saga, Persona 2 and the first Devil Survivor game but it's still one of my favorite RPGs ever made. Love the atmosphere and sense of dread the game provides

It also has probably one of the best Shoji Meguro soundtracks for any game he's composed if you're a fan of his work on Persona

@nessisonett Tbf there's still a sizable chunk of people who don't have PS5s yet. It's probably more intended for them since if you are a member on PS5 you just get the collection outright

HEY JOE

WANNA PLAY A ZOMBIE GAME

Jesus what a way to end a console's life

Did Sony seriously not inform developers still intending on making games about the Store's closure? It shouldn't have even been this soon to begin with imo

@Ralizah The Vita's following is still super dedicated

In fact especially on places like Twitter and Reddit you'll find people showing off their systems or game collections

It may have been a financial failure but it got a retroactively pretty strong following especially thanks to the modding scene

Marvel's Avengers: "Paid MCU skins for our obviously MCU inspired character designs"

Marvel's Spider-Man: "Yo I just doodled this on a napkin but you can have it for free"

Seems redundant considering your character models literally look like stunt doubles for the MCU actors but sure

Bruce Banner is literally wearing the same exact clothes he wore in the first Avengers movie minus the jacket

EDIT: Oh and the next in game event is about the Red Room featuring Yelena Belova...I WONDER WHY THAT WAS CHOSEN

Can Sony just buy Bluepoint Games and have them remaster/remake their back catalogue of games if digital re-releases are now out of the equation

This looks amazing. I saw someone else remake Metal Gear Solid's intro in UE4 and it looked fantastic as well

@Agramonte To be fair to the Xbox One BC was implemented post-launch on a wider scale to my knowledge, and original Xbox games didn't even come until 2017 prior to the One X launching so it wasn't really a reason to get the system before that point

Nintendo re-selling Wii U games at least makes logical sense from the perspective that a lot of people didn't own a Wii U at all and for them they're basically new games. The pricing is something I'm on and off about especially in some cases like DKC Tropical Freeze but Nintendo were also basically sitting on a giant back catalog of games as a result of the install base on Wii U being super low

It's still nice to have the option if it's possible considering it's only another benefit to a console already selling well. Honestly I wouldn't have tried to get a PS5 as early as I did had it not been backwards compatible with PS4 games because if you take that out of the equation the launch lineup looks super mediocre given there's only one true exclusive and a bunch of cross gen stuff

I want to buy it if only for the novelty of having the final PS Vita game ever published

Stil astounds me that despite the console's failure it basically lived out a near-10 year lifecycle similarly to the PSP

@Playstation Honestly the first party Sony stuff for as short as it lasted was really good

Love Gravity Rush & Tearaway and I'm glad they got a second chance on PS4, and Uncharted Golden Abyss was genuinely mindblowing by handheld standards back then. It wasn't some scaled back imitation of what ND was doing either. Bend straight up made a really solid Uncharted game that appealed to portable play and took great advantage of the Vita's features. Same with Wipeout 2048 and Killzone Mercenary

Actually Killzone in particular has aged really well

@Col_McCafferty At this point it's not even going to mean anything if you have any of the older systems

With the knowledge that digital versions of these games are now about to get mass-deleted it's almost certain selling prices for physical versions in the chance you missed out are about to get jacked the hell up, and in the case of certain titles like Persona 2 Innocent Sin which is ludicrously expensive secondhand and ONLY available on PSP/Vita right now, they're practically gone forever unless they get ported to something else, which knowing Atlus will probably not happen whatsoever. Same thing with games like Dracula X Chronicles or even Metal Gear Solid 4

It's not as easy as "if you have another system you can play it"

If stuff like Persona 4 Golden or the Danganronpa games weren't straight up ported to PC they'd practically be next to impossible to find now without paying ridiculous premiums with how expensive they are now for the most part, even secondhand

@carlos82 Also pick up Dracula X Chronicles and SotN if you can

The former's a fantastic remake of Rondo of Blood

"PSVR1 doesn't have the fidelity for this game"

and yet it looks like Garry's Mod

I can't recommend the Persona 2 duology, Xenogears or Final Fantasy VI enough

Looking at this giant list of games kind of depresses me

@Col_McCafferty It being a remake doesn't change the fact it's an old game

There's even less of an argument to be made for Demon's Souls because it's literally a shot for shot recreation that just looks visually improved

It still proves that there's going to be an appetite for older games regardless of how far consoles go in terms of advancements. Don't want me bringing up Microsoft? Fine, I'll bring up Steam then, where loads of 6th and 7th gen titles are not only still available for mass consumption but also play and look considerably better without losing the integrity of the original game compared to consoles, and they STILL sell well, for recent examples, see how an 8 year old PS Vita game went from a modest success with a dedicated following, to literally the most concurrently played JRPG in Steam history even dethroning FFXV's record, which is a newer game by about 4 years.

There's also Square porting over stuff like the PS1 and PS2 Final Fantasy games, publishers like Capcom releasing batches of games in physical collections while being relatively unaltered from how they were before, and even Sony themselves getting games like the first three Uncharted titles or Heavy Rain ported to a newer platform. There's literally no reason why they couldn't be putting more effort into stuff like this because they lready shown themselves they have the means to do so. It's not entitlement at all considering after these stores shut down the only reliable way to play most of these games would be to buy a PlayStation Classic (which is a pale imitation of the SNES Classic) or just the original hardware which is only easy to come by depending on where you look

@belmont If you have a PS3 on hand, use that to download PS1 Classics titles from its Store and then transfer them to your Vita

@Ralizah Funnily enough MGS was actually on PSP/Vita worldwide and then got taken off suddenly from the North American PS Store while remaining live on the EU one

Literally all the other Metal Gear games on Vita are still there though including VR Missions which is really funny to me

@mrbone I am but I'm just disappointed this is the case, especially for Vita given it's still to my knowledge getting some new software this year from smaller devs and I didn't expect it to close this soon

I'll live but it's just disappointing, not really frustrating or aggravating. The PSP store has technically been down for like 7 years now

@Col_McCafferty "To me this reeks of self entitlement from a selection of gamers"

If vouching for Sony to do what the competition is doing especially given a lot of their older content has been stranded on older hardware for years is reeking of self entitlement I seriously don't know what to tell you

Especially considering we're in an age where these older games doing well as is also sparks interest in new entries in their franchises Sony has practically everything to gain and nothing to lose from having a back catalogue of their older titles playable on their console outside just PS4, especially since PS5 can totally handle properly emulated PS3 games now. This is something Sony themselves even used to take extremely seriously and that ironically enough, Microsoft were not putting as much effort into during the 7th gen of systems

The literal headlining launch title and first true PS5 exclusive is a remake of a 2009 PlayStation 3 game. That right there shows you that respecting older properties is more than just a fad of self-entitlement and artificial hype from a minority

And funny you mention the original Ratchet & Clank when one of the big PS4 exclusives to come out during the latter half of the console's lifecycle is a remake of the original Ratchet & Clank, that better yet ties into a movie that retells the story of the original Ratchet & Clank

I'd be less fussed about BC if there weren't other hardware manufacturers that are actually taking it somewhat seriously and building an initiative around it like Microsoft

Is it the most robust thing in the world? No. OG Xbox still needs improvements and there are glaring game ommissions, but Sony definitely has a major advantage when it comes to something like this given the iconography behind their own exclusive lineup

I just want to play MGS4 without a PC or PS Now. There are so many classic PlayStation games out there I'd love to have my new console act as a hub for accessing in the future, especially since I have a greater affinity for those franchises than either of the other two console manufacturers

@shgamer When they brought UMvC3 back on PS4 they bundled all the DLC stuff together including Jill if you're looking for that still

Disney's definitely taking a more hands off approach with games based on their licenses nowadays

@ZoSo I wouldn't say they're PS3-era levels of arrogant but they've definitely become a lot cockier and under the mindset they can get away with a lot more stuff

It's not a good look either way. I expect the race between Microsoft and Sony to be a lot closer this gen especially after the Bethesda stuff

@Playstation Xbox is like the only one of the three I can at least say are actually taking BC seriously and are doing a competent job for the most part

The OG Xbox lineup needs some work but 360 and beyond look really good on Series X from the footage I've seen. They even gave light remasters to specific titles like Final Fantasy XIII

@4kgk2 I was using the hell out of the Vita store for PS1 and PSP stuff

During the latter half of the Vita's lifecycle it was basically a backwards compatibility machine to me since PS4's support of PS1/2 stuff wasn't that substantial outside of Now