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@WallyWest As for what gamers can do, I'm honestly not too sure. Though at the very least, we can talk about it, collectively acknowledge the issues, and make ourselves heard. I wouldn't bet on a company like EA caring if it doesn't affect their profits, but for starters we can make it clear that it is a problem and recognise it.

@The_New_Butler There are many other examples of modern games being released in appalling states. AC Unity and Control come to mind for games that had major technical issues at launch. And the issue is, once games no longer have access to these patches, that is how they will remain. I had the one Days Gone creator in mind when writing, but I would be willing to bet there are other game devs who share their sentiments. And I honestly think the industry would be better if more people were tempted to pay full price at launch. However, that's not as likely to happen if people are given reason to wait for games to be fully patched.

@LordSteev Aha cheers. I'm not saying this game in particular is bad for it, I have no idea what it's like unpatched. It's just an issue in general.

@WallyWest Those bugs are a massive pain. And just think, lots of games released nowadays probably have those bugs only mitigated by a day one patch. Once we can't download the patches, all those games will be broken.

This is the thing, you say "welcome to modern gaming where you best enjoy the games while they last" as if we should just accept it just because it's the normal, and game preservation doesn't matter. It's important that these things don't become normalised, because this is what allows publishers to get away with this stuff.

@The_New_Butler You're not wrong that a large playerbase is more likely to find bugs than a small dev team. However, it is not the job of a paying customer to find these bugs. If devs need extra manpower, they have the option of betas, or hiring extra testers.

There are business decisions behind releasing broken games, but it's not always going to be the most profitable. Like I said earlier, fixing bugs before or after launch takes resources either way, so companies aren't saving anything by using patches as means. Then the reputation of a company can be massively at stake. The best recent example is CDProjekt Red. Even a company as popular as them, has shattered prestige that they spent years of releasing quality games building. Sure Cyberpunk may get patched and become an excellent game. However, the damage is done and people are less likely to trust said company. The hype and enthusiasm for the game will have gone down, and people on the fence about getting the game will probably just forget about it. And mainly, publishers like to complain about how gamers aren't supporting the industry by buying games for full price at launch, but why would gamers buy a game at launch if it's going to be riddled with bugs? Why would they pay more for a less functional product, instead of paying less for a fully working product? Publishers demands don't make any sense.

@The_New_Butler I didn't say it was the norm to release games completely bug free. I said it was the norm to release games in a decent state, so that they could be played without too many bugs ruining the enjoyment. For example, a PS2 game (say Shadow of the Colossus), wouldn't get any patches after going gold and being shipped. It would not be bug free, but it would be playable and 15 years after it can be played as normal without needed to download anything. You did occasionally get games that nowadays could be saved with patches, but back then they flopped hard.

Sure games are more complicated nowadays, and I get that more time is being used for bug finding. But there's no real reason to do so by patches. These patches still eat away into the developer's time and resources post launch, so surely that same work might as well just be done before launch. The only real reason they are needed is because publishers want the money and to release games ASAP, with a "release now, fix later" mentality. If a game can become fully functional through patches, there's no reason it can't be made fully functional before going gold.

@AdamNovice Granted there will be bugs during any development process, but there should be considerably less in a game that is being remade, since the main changes are just graphical. I don't mind so much that the patches exist, but it's a massive problem for the future if the game cannot function without these patches. It's not impossible to ship games in a working state, it was the industry norm back in the day.

Remakes of 10 year old games shouldn't need patches at all, let alone patches this big. These day one patches mean games will age terribly when they can't be downloaded anymore.

Great news! Ghostrunner was a phenomenal game, really underlooked.

Oooh, a Slime Climb sequel sounds fun.

It left an amazing legacy, but the first game hasn't aged too well. Especially compared to Jak and Sly.

Weird, I'd say was the other way round. Story and dialogue sucked, while gameplay/combat was extremely fun. The attention to detail really makes it.

Bravo!! What an awesome addition.

Understandable. Them pachinko machines are intricately crafted with love and care.

But Crash 4 was amazing. What an absolute waste.

@djape I'm happy to wait for a better product, plus there will be a better range of accessories/games, and more likely to be cheaper. Lots of other stuff to play in the mean time,

@playstation1995 Or that. Either way, there's no reason to panic buy, and get something just because it's the cool new thing.

@Matroska Aha fairs. I read a book about Timur about a year ago, so I was trying to think why I had never heard that name before, or whether it was just a massive typo.

@Dezzy70 I'm actually waiting for a slim to come out. I think it's generally better to wait a while after consoles launch so bugs can fixed. Plus, PS5 is a big boi, I'm scared of how much space it will take up in my fairly compact room.

This is really convincing me to stop waiting for a slim and just (try) and buy a PS5. Gameplay looks fun as ever (with some interesting platforming), visually beautiful, and the story seems like it will be pretty interesting.

Is Tamburlaine an alternative version of Tamerlane/Timur, because I've never heard of it.

Anyway, this is why I love video games/fiction in general. They're such a good way to make people aware of history, and encourage them to learn more.

I'd be interested to see if they could salvage the series from the trainwreck it was made into. I'm going to be cautious about buying future games from Naughty Dog, let alone a sequel to whatever TLOU2 was.

@RenanKJ In the long term it probably would, but not so much right now as there still far more many people buying software for PS4.

@Shepherd_Tallon That's a good point, I wouldn't mind more high fantasy stuff in general from Sony's first parties. Off the top of my head there's God Of War, but that's not a brand new universe.

@Shepherd_Tallon Granted it's not the biggest, nor is it fantasy, but isn't Horizon pretty much that?

Buying Insomniac is hands down one of the best moves Playstation has made in years.

Always happy to hear good news!!

@BoldAndBrash Pretty much the opposite opinion for me, I think TLOU2 is massively overrated. Gameplay was solid as was worldbuilding, but I couldn't stand the story and characters. Kudos for taking a risk, but imo the risk failed hard.

Granted GoT is fairly generic, but TLOU2 was hardly innovative either. I don't really mind if a game isn't innovative, as long as it's quality. GoT's combat is extremely satisfying, and it made somewhat generic objectives fun. I thought the story was very well told as well, the setting/context were well used and the characters were all interesting.

And all of this is coming from someone who prefers more linear games.

We need something from Babylon's Fall. The most recent trailer was awesome, but that was over a year ago.

Excellent news. Remember this when someone says you shouldn't complain or voice your opinion.

@Arckadius Me too, but that's because they don't go down for some reason so you really have another option.

@wiiware Oof, it's a bad day if I'm even up at that time.

@wiiware What you mean you don't plan your life around video games?

@Col_McCafferty Because there's literally no reason to make playing a demo unnecessarily convoluted.

@Jayofmaya I think it's fair to say a decent amount is known about Mesoamerican cultures. Definitely enough to make a game inspired by mythology. Not to mention these civillisations were pretty advanced despite being isolated, Incan astronomy did things Europeans could dream of. Not to mention there is media that already exists, like the film Apocalypto. Never Alone did a story based on Inupiaq mythology of all things.

Pretty cool, we don't get many games based on Pre-Colombian civillizations.

I wish it was working on a new Jak game as well, the PS2 games were all class. Even if Naughty Dog didn't make one, I reckon Insomniac could do a great job. I would much prefer a sequel instead of a remake though.

Not got a PS5, but I'll keep an eye on it. It will most likely be one of the first games I buy.

@AhmadSumadi Fairs. For handheld gaming I just use my Switch. Even then, it's hard to play when it's rested and I'm using a controller.

@Excess That is useful. However I'd rather not bring my PS4 controller around with me. And if I'm at home, chances are there's a better device for playing Playstation games.

Yes please. Really excited to play my favourite games on a tiny screen with no controller.

Doesn't really need a remake. Judging by how TLOU2 turned out, I have a nasty feeling they'd mess up the story somehow

There's really no reason this game needs a remake. Sure the graphics aren't as modern, but they still hold up extremely well. Granted some gameplay improvements could be added, but again the game still plays perfectly well.

I'm extremely worried about what they'd do the story, it's perfect and there's no reason to touch it. If that there's one story that could do with a rewrite, it's TLOU2.

I do love the Uncharted games, but do we really need more. I thought Uncharted 4 was meant to be the series swan song.

I'm fairly happy with this, Days Gone didn't appeal to me so I'd rather see something new. Understandably people who really liked it and want a sequel can't be too pleased. At least the studio isn't being shut down, and they will actually have the chance to make more games.

@Cycologist It is different because there aren't limited copies of digital games.

@FX102A That's annoying about Tomba, I meant to pick that up for a while but never got round to it. And discs are extremely expensive.

@pip_muzz Same here. I never owned a PS1 as a kid, and buying used PS1 games is pretty expensive. It was a great way to be able to play games like Crash, Medievil and The Legend of Dragoon for the first time (even though I had to resort to making a fake American account for the last one).

They would expect people to pay to see adverts? That would all be available for free afterwards...

My top 10 (order not certain):
10) Mirror's Edge
9) Puppeteer
8) Tomb Raider (2013)
7) Motorstorm: Pacific Rift
6) Infamous 2
5) Ratchet and Clank: Tools of Destruction
4) Journey
3) Uncharted 2
2) Call of Duty World at War
1) The Last Of Us

I feel like there are a lot of good games I'm missing, only the last spot is definite. I would have put more COD games on the list because I spent so much time playing them, but I limited myself to one game per franchise. Even though the COD games were great fun back then and then series was at it's peak, I do wish I didn't play them as much as I did, and branched out a bit more.