It's good that it is selling and will likely make a profit, just a bit underwhelming considering how good the game actually is. As long as we get more 3D platformers I'm happy.
@DonJorginho I'm aware of the trends. That's largely happening because people are far less likely to buy a disc for F2P/live service/indie games. Plus the trend is not purely consumer driven, it's largely corporate driven due to how much they benefit from digital storefronts. If publishers put the same amount of effort into physical games as they did in the past (manuals, collectibles, entire game playing playable off the disc etc), the decline wouldn't be as fast. Furthermore, total game sales don't represent the number of gamers who have zero interest in physical. Like you I also buy physical games, but I also buy digital games which screws the figures a bit.
Regardless, if I was to "upgrade" it's likely I would lose the ability to play my best games. I'm not the only one in this boat, and on a console that's supposed to objectively better, that's really not good.
@DonJorginho If scalpers are able to to do what they're doing, that means that there is demand for the disc drive. That means we're not in a "digital age" where no one wants physical media, because there is still an audience for physical games. It's hardly a Pro console when my PS5 slim can do more than it. Hell even my PS3 is more useful than it.
While I generally hate it when studios shut down and believe in second chances, I don't think too many people will be shocked or distraught about this.
@PuppetMaster They had stuff after the main show granted, but the people who get to play the games at E3, are a tiny percentage of the market compared to people who are likely to watch the shows. And yeah to Sony's credit it was shown as other shows, but none of them are as big as E3. Delaying the release isn't a sign of marketing. While it wasn't a bad decision, it's a sign that they knew how underlooked it was.
That's the thing, there's no clear reason why Gravity Rush 2 sold so badly. It couldn't have been the games quality, because it reviewed well. It couldn't have been the fact that it wouldn't catch some attention, because gravity shifting is a fairly unique idea. It can't be the fact no one likes cell shaded graphics, because there are plenty of popular games with a similar art style. Pretty much the only option left, is the fact that it wasn't well marketed. Maybe January isn't a good time to release game because it's straight after christmas, but that doesn't seem to be a problem with other games.
@PuppetMaster They did cool stuff for the marketing of Gravity Rush 2, they were just awful at actually showing it. Barely anyone had heard of the game, which is bad for a 1st party PS game. It's not like there is no interest in anime style games either.
Best example of how poorly Gravity Rush 2 was marketed, was the fact it wasn't even shown during Sony's 2016 E3 conference. Instead they had a 10 minute gameplay demo for COD.
@kevinm360 While Gen Design was eventually the main developer behind The Last Guardian, Japan Studio had a pretty big hand in it. But I'm hoping the staff at GenDesign are doing ok. It has been a very long time since they've made a game.
They released The Last Guardian in 2016, and Gravity Rush 2 in 2017. Considering how long games take to make, that's not that long, before they were shut down. Sony should have been a lot more patient before pretty much gutting it's oldest studio, and only studio in Japan that isn't committed to Gran Turismo.
Ive wanted to play this game for a while, so the original announcement was exciting. This is disappointing. I can see them reversing it when they realise it's dumb
That's good to hear. It's kind of sad being so invested in sales, but unfortunately the future of 3D platformers is dependent on all of these games selling well. That being said, it's looking promising.
Unfortunately I won't be able to play this at launch, but nevertheless I am still so glad that I pre-ordered this and the controller. I am genuinely so hyped to be able to play this, I can't even remember the last game I was so excited for. I think Astro Bot could honestly be a 10/10 game.
@IOI I never usually pre-order, but I'm also never as confident a game will be great as I am with Astro Bot. Plus I really want it to do well, and show there is a demand for platformers.
I'd sort of understand if he said there's no space because of Resident Evil, but believe it or not people like different types of game. Even with Resident Evil, people can enjoy more than one horror franchise.
@Toot1st Oh it looked extremely similar, I would have easily believed it was another Little Nightmares game. Even still, it looks good, and I think it is distinctive due to a more realistic style and more animals.
Not sure if this is a good game, unnecessary padding has the potential to be detrimental. If it's quality new content then it's good, but adding length for the sake of length isn't a good thing.
Could have easily been fooled it was another Little Nightmares game, but it looks amazing regardless. Those games are gold, so I'm very hyped for this.
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Re: LEGO Horizon Adventures Is Getting a Surprisingly Huge Marketing Push
No interest in the game, but that's a great trailer.
Re: Astro Bot Sells 1.5 Million PS5 Copies Inside Nine Weeks
It's good that it is selling and will likely make a profit, just a bit underwhelming considering how good the game actually is. As long as we get more 3D platformers I'm happy.
Re: Random: Super Smash Bros Maker Masahiro Sakurai Says He Bought a PS5 Pro Today
@N8tiveT3ch God, a man can fantasise.
Re: In the UK, You Can't Buy a PS5 Pro Disc Drive without Paying a Premium
@DonJorginho I'm aware of the trends. That's largely happening because people are far less likely to buy a disc for F2P/live service/indie games. Plus the trend is not purely consumer driven, it's largely corporate driven due to how much they benefit from digital storefronts. If publishers put the same amount of effort into physical games as they did in the past (manuals, collectibles, entire game playing playable off the disc etc), the decline wouldn't be as fast. Furthermore, total game sales don't represent the number of gamers who have zero interest in physical. Like you I also buy physical games, but I also buy digital games which screws the figures a bit.
Regardless, if I was to "upgrade" it's likely I would lose the ability to play my best games. I'm not the only one in this boat, and on a console that's supposed to objectively better, that's really not good.
Re: In the UK, You Can't Buy a PS5 Pro Disc Drive without Paying a Premium
@DonJorginho If scalpers are able to to do what they're doing, that means that there is demand for the disc drive. That means we're not in a "digital age" where no one wants physical media, because there is still an audience for physical games. It's hardly a Pro console when my PS5 slim can do more than it. Hell even my PS3 is more useful than it.
Re: In the UK, You Can't Buy a PS5 Pro Disc Drive without Paying a Premium
Wouldn't be an issue, if the premium console came with Disc Drive as part of it. This is an embarrassment.
Re: Golden Joystick Reveals Nominations for 'Ultimate Game of the Year'
Only game I've played on this is Astro Bot. Not too surprised Crow Country and Still Wakes The Deep aren't here, but no Stellar Blade?
Re: Slitterhead (PS5) - Inventive Horror Is Essential for Japan Studio Fans
Jank gameplay but interesting ideas sounds typical of Toyama. I'm convinced.
Re: PS5 Pro Packaging Flaunts Its Disc-Free Nature
"Disc free", as if the option to be able to use physical media was really stressing people out.
Re: PS5, PC Flop Concord Never Returning, Studio Closed Down
While I generally hate it when studios shut down and believe in second chances, I don't think too many people will be shocked or distraught about this.
Re: Sony's Japan Studio 'Forgot What It Feels Like to Have a Hit'
@PuppetMaster They had stuff after the main show granted, but the people who get to play the games at E3, are a tiny percentage of the market compared to people who are likely to watch the shows. And yeah to Sony's credit it was shown as other shows, but none of them are as big as E3. Delaying the release isn't a sign of marketing. While it wasn't a bad decision, it's a sign that they knew how underlooked it was.
That's the thing, there's no clear reason why Gravity Rush 2 sold so badly. It couldn't have been the games quality, because it reviewed well. It couldn't have been the fact that it wouldn't catch some attention, because gravity shifting is a fairly unique idea. It can't be the fact no one likes cell shaded graphics, because there are plenty of popular games with a similar art style. Pretty much the only option left, is the fact that it wasn't well marketed. Maybe January isn't a good time to release game because it's straight after christmas, but that doesn't seem to be a problem with other games.
Re: Sony's Japan Studio 'Forgot What It Feels Like to Have a Hit'
@PuppetMaster They did cool stuff for the marketing of Gravity Rush 2, they were just awful at actually showing it. Barely anyone had heard of the game, which is bad for a 1st party PS game. It's not like there is no interest in anime style games either.
Best example of how poorly Gravity Rush 2 was marketed, was the fact it wasn't even shown during Sony's 2016 E3 conference. Instead they had a 10 minute gameplay demo for COD.
Re: Sony's Japan Studio 'Forgot What It Feels Like to Have a Hit'
@kevinm360 While Gen Design was eventually the main developer behind The Last Guardian, Japan Studio had a pretty big hand in it. But I'm hoping the staff at GenDesign are doing ok. It has been a very long time since they've made a game.
Re: Sony's Japan Studio 'Forgot What It Feels Like to Have a Hit'
They released The Last Guardian in 2016, and Gravity Rush 2 in 2017. Considering how long games take to make, that's not that long, before they were shut down. Sony should have been a lot more patient before pretty much gutting it's oldest studio, and only studio in Japan that isn't committed to Gran Turismo.
Re: PS Showcase Title Towers of Aghasba Enters PS5 Early Access Next Month
The game looks cool, but that price difference between Britain and America is criminal.
Re: Like It or Not, This Is Why PS5 Pro Doesn't Have a Disc Drive
Do these stats account for the fact that a number of games like indies and live service, only release digitally?
Re: Expedition 33 Dev Confirms $50 Price Is Correct, '30+ Hours of Main Game'
Fine with that, 30 hours is a good length for an RPG.
Re: Dino Crisis Fans Hoodwinked as Capcom's PS1 Classic Requires Premium, Lacks Trophies
Ive wanted to play this game for a while, so the original announcement was exciting. This is disappointing. I can see them reversing it when they realise it's dumb
Re: Retro-Inspired Horror Gem Crow Country Is Heading to PS4 Later This Month
Great game, very much recommend it if you like horror or puzzles.
Re: Sony Priming 'Even Less Exciting' PS5 Remaster for State of Play
@PuppetMaster Yep, I really liked the remake of Medievil 1, I would happily buy a remake of the sequel.
Re: Horizon Zero Dawn's PS5, PC Remaster Is Very Much the Real Deal
Games that are actually new?
Re: State of Play Rumoured for This Month As Sony Looks Set to Skip PS Showcase in 2024
@TrickyDicky99 Makes me glad I got a PS5, and makes me keen to get a PS5 Pro.
Re: State of Play Rumoured for This Month As Sony Looks Set to Skip PS Showcase in 2024
@itsfoz By the looks of things, it seems like their Studios are barely working on anything at this rate.
Re: Astro Bot PS5 Sales Trending Ahead of Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart in the UK
That's good to hear. It's kind of sad being so invested in sales, but unfortunately the future of 3D platformers is dependent on all of these games selling well. That being said, it's looking promising.
Re: Let the Astro Bot PS5 Launch Trailer Tide You Over Until Release
Unfortunately I won't be able to play this at launch, but nevertheless I am still so glad that I pre-ordered this and the controller. I am genuinely so hyped to be able to play this, I can't even remember the last game I was so excited for. I think Astro Bot could honestly be a 10/10 game.
Re: Astro Bot 2 Hinted at in PS5 Platinum Trophy Description
@Maubari I brought Tearaway Unfolded and Gravity Rush 2 at launch :'(
Re: Astro Bot 2 Hinted at in PS5 Platinum Trophy Description
@IOI I never usually pre-order, but I'm also never as confident a game will be great as I am with Astro Bot. Plus I really want it to do well, and show there is a demand for platformers.
Re: Not Much Space for Dino Crisis After Monster Hunter Success, Creator Says
I'd sort of understand if he said there's no space because of Resident Evil, but believe it or not people like different types of game. Even with Resident Evil, people can enjoy more than one horror franchise.
Re: Poll: What PS5 Game Had the Best Showing at Gamescom 2024?
@Toot1st Oh it looked extremely similar, I would have easily believed it was another Little Nightmares game. Even still, it looks good, and I think it is distinctive due to a more realistic style and more animals.
Re: Poll: What PS5 Game Had the Best Showing at Gamescom 2024?
Reanimal looks phenomenal.
Re: Spare a Thought for Secret Level's Concord Episode
Did we really need hindsight, when it was pretty heavily anticipated that Concord would do poorly?
Re: Concord (PS5) - Live Service Debut Beats the Hate with Stellar Presentation and Good Gameplay
Once this fails and Astro Bot sells well, hopefully Sony will actually start pushing for more platformers.
Re: Silent Hill 2 PS5 Remake Is Quite a Bit Longer Than the Original
Not sure if this is a good game, unnecessary padding has the potential to be detrimental. If it's quality new content then it's good, but adding length for the sake of length isn't a good thing.
Re: Lost in Random: The Eternal Die Announced, a Rogue-Lite Sequel Coming to PS5 in 2025
Still have yet to play the first game, but to hear the sequel is a roguelite is disappointing.
Re: Little Nightmares 3 Focuses on Co-Op Gameplay in Latest PS5, PS4 Trailer
@breakneck I get it. I had the same reaction when someone broke the bad news to me.
Re: Little Nightmares 3 Focuses on Co-Op Gameplay in Latest PS5, PS4 Trailer
@breakneck I think they meant the offline is with AI. Or they are wrong, because every other source seems to indicate that co-op is online only. https://www.techradar.com/news/little-nightmares-3-release-date-gameplay-trailers
Re: Little Nightmares 3 Focuses on Co-Op Gameplay in Latest PS5, PS4 Trailer
It looks good, but the fact there's no option for couch co-op is extremely disappointing.
Re: Reanimal Is the Next Horror Adventure from the Creators of Little Nightmares
Could have easily been fooled it was another Little Nightmares game, but it looks amazing regardless. Those games are gold, so I'm very hyped for this.
Re: Pour One Out for PS4 Exclusive WiLD, No Longer in Active Development
Think it was pretty obvious to those that remembered, but still sad nonetheless.
Re: PS5 Journey-Like Sword of the Sea Reappears Over a Year After Its PlayStation Showcase Reveal
Put it on my wishlist. Journey (and Flower/Flow), Abzu and the Pathless are all amazing games, I'm sure this one will be no different.
Re: Xbox Boss Phil Spencer Says DOOM Franchise Is Something That 'Everyone Deserves to Play'
I am very glad about this. It's one thing keeping Halo exclusive to Xbox, it would be another to gatekeep Doom.
Re: DOOM: The Dark Ages Rips and Tears Day One on PS5
Hands down highlight of the show, didn't thing medieval weapons would work so well for Doom.
Re: French Turn-Based RPG Expedition 33 Announced for PS5 in Promising Debut Trailer
@LordServbot I was gonna say, it reminds me of Legend of Dragoon's addition system. It looks fun.
Re: Atomfall PS5, PS4's Apocalyptic UK Setting Will Be Familiar for All Those Unfortunate Enough to Live in Britain Today
Country is unrecognisable after Brexit.
I joke, this looks really interesting.
Re: We Heard You Like Dark Fantasy Action RPGs! So, Here's WUCHANG: Fallen Feathers on PS5
I swear the next video game crash is gonna come from all of these Soulslikes.
Re: Horror Hit Alan Wake 2 Is Getting a Retail PS5 Release Because You Wouldn't Shut Up About It
Common sense prevailed?
Re: There's a Damn Good Reason to Buy Astro Bot Physically on PS5
I mean I was set on it anyway, but I'll take more reasons.
Re: Video: Is Concord Destined to Fail?
Don't know, and I'm happy if people enjoy it, but ultimately I really don't care either way.
Re: Astro's Playroom PS5 Gets New Update, New Trophies Out of Nowhere
Literally playing this for the first time this evening, was very confused when it popped up. Happy though, absolutely loving this game.
Re: Anticipated Horror Game Slitterhead Debuts First Gameplay at SGF
Oh nice, I was thinking it had been ages since we had seen this game.