Ive wanted to play this game for a while, so the original announcement was exciting. This is disappointing. I can see them reversing it when they realise it's dumb
That's good to hear. It's kind of sad being so invested in sales, but unfortunately the future of 3D platformers is dependent on all of these games selling well. That being said, it's looking promising.
Unfortunately I won't be able to play this at launch, but nevertheless I am still so glad that I pre-ordered this and the controller. I am genuinely so hyped to be able to play this, I can't even remember the last game I was so excited for. I think Astro Bot could honestly be a 10/10 game.
@IOI I never usually pre-order, but I'm also never as confident a game will be great as I am with Astro Bot. Plus I really want it to do well, and show there is a demand for platformers.
I'd sort of understand if he said there's no space because of Resident Evil, but believe it or not people like different types of game. Even with Resident Evil, people can enjoy more than one horror franchise.
@Toot1st Oh it looked extremely similar, I would have easily believed it was another Little Nightmares game. Even still, it looks good, and I think it is distinctive due to a more realistic style and more animals.
Not sure if this is a good game, unnecessary padding has the potential to be detrimental. If it's quality new content then it's good, but adding length for the sake of length isn't a good thing.
Could have easily been fooled it was another Little Nightmares game, but it looks amazing regardless. Those games are gold, so I'm very hyped for this.
Should have asked "what's everyone's favourite game apart from Astro Bot". It looks awesome, I hope the current hype is indicative of how well it will sell.
@Omnistalgic It's just disappointing, the idea of him softening up is pretty far fetched considering he was already shown to be cautious and distrusting right before the apocalypse. While his life would have been comparably easier after moving into Jackson, due to still facing danger somewhat regularly and actively having to be cautious to avoid Ellie learning the truth, it doesn't really make sense to the point he would soften up to point of it getting himself killed.
Negative character development can be written really well. The downfall of Griffith from Berserk is an excellent example, as it shows as logical progression. Joel's softening wasn't shown at all on screen, we're just expected to believe it after seeing him get killed which is why so many people hate his death.
@Flaming_Kaiser I'm skeptical of anyone that get's a 4 year old game spoilt for them by looking in the comments of an article about the deveopler, but how to I add spoilers so I can edit my comment?
@Artois2 To explain why Joel's death did not suit him as a character, I'll first give a example of a character that died a very fitting death. Don't read the next paragraph if you don't want Game of Thrones spoilers.
Robb Stark was shown to be an effective battlefield commander, but also shown he was somewhat naive when it came to politics. It all led to him being betrayed at his Uncle's wedding by his own allies. It started by him breaking his vow to the Frey's by marrying another women, due to him being emotionally compromised due to lots of bad news. After taking heavy losses partly due to rough political decisions, he was forced to arrange his Uncle's wedding. It all made perfect sense why the Freys and Boltons betrayed him. Bear in mind Robb was my favourite character, so according to TLOU2 fanboys I should have hated GoT because of this, but it was an amazing death because the events that led up to it made perfect sense, and it was due to the clear result of his character flaws.
On the other hand Joel is consistently meant to be an extremely cautious character (in the first 15 minutes of the first game he doesn't let struggling bystanders into his car), yet he died because he gave away his name. Abby's motives do make sense for killing Joel if it can be believed she still has the motivation for it 5 years after Joel killed the doctor. Yet instead of the WLF actually making the effort to find/lure Joel out, they just happen to stumble across him in the best possible scenario for them. They didn't have to plan anything or have any trouble, it as easy as just having him standing in the middle of the room of dodgy and suspicious strangers. Then by sheer coincidence, Ellie comes along at exactly the right time to see Joel get murdered.
The first death mentioned was the consequence of their actions, and happened from an elaborate and carefully made plan. Joel's death happened in the way it did, because the moon happened to be in the right place in the sky. I don't have a problem with Joel dying, it was the fact it was hamfisted and required so many coincidences to happen.
@Artois2 Off the top of my head: Awful pacing, unlikable characters, boring dialogue, tone is dark throughout so it just loses impact, many moments being extremely contrived, purposefully ruined characters like Tommy, ending made the game feel like a complete waste of time.
In the first game the highs and lows which complimented each other and made such moments stand out, whereas Part 2 is just consistently bleak so it's just easy to not care by the end of it.
TLOU2 contrary to what the fanboys seem to think, is not the first story to have a major character death. Game of Thrones and Attack on Titan both have major deaths, and those stories are amazing because the characters in that died in ways that made sense and made perfect sense for the character. The major death in TLOU2 does not fit the character at all, with the circumstances being very contrived. That's why it baffles me when fanboys dismiss all criticism of the game as "you just didn't like the character death".
@UltimateOtaku91 If there are plenty of stories in which main characters die but are still loved, you reckon there could be more to why TLOU2 is hated, like awful writing?
@RoomWithaMoose The closure of Japan Studio is genuinely some of the worst gaming news I have ever heard. Such a slap in the face for developers that made some of Playstation's best games.
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Ive wanted to play this game for a while, so the original announcement was exciting. This is disappointing. I can see them reversing it when they realise it's dumb
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Great game, very much recommend it if you like horror or puzzles.
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@PuppetMaster Yep, I really liked the remake of Medievil 1, I would happily buy a remake of the sequel.
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Games that are actually new?
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@TrickyDicky99 Makes me glad I got a PS5, and makes me keen to get a PS5 Pro.
Re: State of Play Rumoured for This Month As Sony Looks Set to Skip PS Showcase in 2024
@itsfoz By the looks of things, it seems like their Studios are barely working on anything at this rate.
Re: Astro Bot PS5 Sales Trending Ahead of Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart in the UK
That's good to hear. It's kind of sad being so invested in sales, but unfortunately the future of 3D platformers is dependent on all of these games selling well. That being said, it's looking promising.
Re: Let the Astro Bot PS5 Launch Trailer Tide You Over Until Release
Unfortunately I won't be able to play this at launch, but nevertheless I am still so glad that I pre-ordered this and the controller. I am genuinely so hyped to be able to play this, I can't even remember the last game I was so excited for. I think Astro Bot could honestly be a 10/10 game.
Re: Astro Bot 2 Hinted at in PS5 Platinum Trophy Description
@Maubari I brought Tearaway Unfolded and Gravity Rush 2 at launch :'(
Re: Astro Bot 2 Hinted at in PS5 Platinum Trophy Description
@IOI I never usually pre-order, but I'm also never as confident a game will be great as I am with Astro Bot. Plus I really want it to do well, and show there is a demand for platformers.
Re: Not Much Space for Dino Crisis After Monster Hunter Success, Creator Says
I'd sort of understand if he said there's no space because of Resident Evil, but believe it or not people like different types of game. Even with Resident Evil, people can enjoy more than one horror franchise.
Re: Poll: What PS5 Game Had the Best Showing at Gamescom 2024?
@Toot1st Oh it looked extremely similar, I would have easily believed it was another Little Nightmares game. Even still, it looks good, and I think it is distinctive due to a more realistic style and more animals.
Re: Poll: What PS5 Game Had the Best Showing at Gamescom 2024?
Reanimal looks phenomenal.
Re: Spare a Thought for Secret Level's Concord Episode
Did we really need hindsight, when it was pretty heavily anticipated that Concord would do poorly?
Re: Concord (PS5) - Live Service Debut Beats the Hate with Stellar Presentation and Good Gameplay
Once this fails and Astro Bot sells well, hopefully Sony will actually start pushing for more platformers.
Re: Silent Hill 2 PS5 Remake Is Quite a Bit Longer Than the Original
Not sure if this is a good game, unnecessary padding has the potential to be detrimental. If it's quality new content then it's good, but adding length for the sake of length isn't a good thing.
Re: Lost in Random: The Eternal Die Announced, a Rogue-Lite Sequel Coming to PS5 in 2025
Still have yet to play the first game, but to hear the sequel is a roguelite is disappointing.
Re: Little Nightmares 3 Focuses on Co-Op Gameplay in Latest PS5, PS4 Trailer
@breakneck I get it. I had the same reaction when someone broke the bad news to me.
Re: Little Nightmares 3 Focuses on Co-Op Gameplay in Latest PS5, PS4 Trailer
@breakneck I think they meant the offline is with AI. Or they are wrong, because every other source seems to indicate that co-op is online only. https://www.techradar.com/news/little-nightmares-3-release-date-gameplay-trailers
Re: Little Nightmares 3 Focuses on Co-Op Gameplay in Latest PS5, PS4 Trailer
It looks good, but the fact there's no option for couch co-op is extremely disappointing.
Re: Reanimal Is the Next Horror Adventure from the Creators of Little Nightmares
Could have easily been fooled it was another Little Nightmares game, but it looks amazing regardless. Those games are gold, so I'm very hyped for this.
Re: Pour One Out for PS4 Exclusive WiLD, No Longer in Active Development
Think it was pretty obvious to those that remembered, but still sad nonetheless.
Re: PS5 Journey-Like Sword of the Sea Reappears Over a Year After Its PlayStation Showcase Reveal
Put it on my wishlist. Journey (and Flower/Flow), Abzu and the Pathless are all amazing games, I'm sure this one will be no different.
Re: Xbox Boss Phil Spencer Says DOOM Franchise Is Something That 'Everyone Deserves to Play'
I am very glad about this. It's one thing keeping Halo exclusive to Xbox, it would be another to gatekeep Doom.
Re: DOOM: The Dark Ages Rips and Tears Day One on PS5
Hands down highlight of the show, didn't thing medieval weapons would work so well for Doom.
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@LordServbot I was gonna say, it reminds me of Legend of Dragoon's addition system. It looks fun.
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Country is unrecognisable after Brexit.
I joke, this looks really interesting.
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I swear the next video game crash is gonna come from all of these Soulslikes.
Re: Horror Hit Alan Wake 2 Is Getting a Retail PS5 Release Because You Wouldn't Shut Up About It
Common sense prevailed?
Re: There's a Damn Good Reason to Buy Astro Bot Physically on PS5
I mean I was set on it anyway, but I'll take more reasons.
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Don't know, and I'm happy if people enjoy it, but ultimately I really don't care either way.
Re: Astro's Playroom PS5 Gets New Update, New Trophies Out of Nowhere
Literally playing this for the first time this evening, was very confused when it popped up. Happy though, absolutely loving this game.
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Oh nice, I was thinking it had been ages since we had seen this game.
Re: Astro Bot Is the 'Biggest' Game Team ASOBI Has Ever Made
Extremely hyped for this, strongly considering pre-ordering it, maybe the collector's edition if there is one for it.
Re: Poll: What Was Your Favourite Game from State of Play?
Should have asked "what's everyone's favourite game apart from Astro Bot". It looks awesome, I hope the current hype is indicative of how well it will sell.
Re: Astro Bot Looks Absolutely Glorious, Lands on PS5 This September
@GymratAmarillo Don't worry, I am buying this day one.
Re: Astro Bot Looks Absolutely Glorious, Lands on PS5 This September
@zidane4028 As awful as Japan Studio's closure is, at least this is a testament they still lived on somewhat.
Re: Astro Bot Looks Absolutely Glorious, Lands on PS5 This September
Haven't been this excited for a game in ages, easily the winner of the show.
Is it the final title though, it's a bit weird considering it's not the first in the series.
Re: Poll: What Did You Think of Sony's State of Play for May 2024?
Most of it was pretty meh, with some occasional decent announcements. It really couldn't have started off worse, but it did get better.
The Astro Bot game was made it worth watching, it easily stole the show for me.
Re: Hogwarts Legacy Summer Update Revealed with Photo Mode and More
@DennisReynolds I don't get why these things aren't just added day one, other than as a way to try and make the games talked about again.
Re: Talking Point: State of Play May 2024 Predictions - What's Next for PS5?
I will be happy with literally just an Astro Bot game playable without VR.
Re: State of Play Officially Confirmed for 30th May, Updates on PS5, PSVR2 Games
As usual I'll try and keep expectations low, but if this alleged Astro Bot game is announced and doesn't need VR, I will be ecstatic.
Re: Neil Druckmann Claims Comments of Next Naughty Dog Game 'Redefining' the Mainstream View of Gaming Was a Sony Misquote
@Omnistalgic It's just disappointing, the idea of him softening up is pretty far fetched considering he was already shown to be cautious and distrusting right before the apocalypse. While his life would have been comparably easier after moving into Jackson, due to still facing danger somewhat regularly and actively having to be cautious to avoid Ellie learning the truth, it doesn't really make sense to the point he would soften up to point of it getting himself killed.
Negative character development can be written really well. The downfall of Griffith from Berserk is an excellent example, as it shows as logical progression. Joel's softening wasn't shown at all on screen, we're just expected to believe it after seeing him get killed which is why so many people hate his death.
Re: Neil Druckmann Claims Comments of Next Naughty Dog Game 'Redefining' the Mainstream View of Gaming Was a Sony Misquote
@Flaming_Kaiser Done, thanks.
Re: Neil Druckmann Claims Comments of Next Naughty Dog Game 'Redefining' the Mainstream View of Gaming Was a Sony Misquote
@Flaming_Kaiser I'm skeptical of anyone that get's a 4 year old game spoilt for them by looking in the comments of an article about the deveopler, but how to I add spoilers so I can edit my comment?
Re: Neil Druckmann Claims Comments of Next Naughty Dog Game 'Redefining' the Mainstream View of Gaming Was a Sony Misquote
@Artois2 To explain why Joel's death did not suit him as a character, I'll first give a example of a character that died a very fitting death. Don't read the next paragraph if you don't want Game of Thrones spoilers.
Robb Stark was shown to be an effective battlefield commander, but also shown he was somewhat naive when it came to politics. It all led to him being betrayed at his Uncle's wedding by his own allies. It started by him breaking his vow to the Frey's by marrying another women, due to him being emotionally compromised due to lots of bad news. After taking heavy losses partly due to rough political decisions, he was forced to arrange his Uncle's wedding. It all made perfect sense why the Freys and Boltons betrayed him. Bear in mind Robb was my favourite character, so according to TLOU2 fanboys I should have hated GoT because of this, but it was an amazing death because the events that led up to it made perfect sense, and it was due to the clear result of his character flaws.
On the other hand Joel is consistently meant to be an extremely cautious character (in the first 15 minutes of the first game he doesn't let struggling bystanders into his car), yet he died because he gave away his name. Abby's motives do make sense for killing Joel if it can be believed she still has the motivation for it 5 years after Joel killed the doctor. Yet instead of the WLF actually making the effort to find/lure Joel out, they just happen to stumble across him in the best possible scenario for them. They didn't have to plan anything or have any trouble, it as easy as just having him standing in the middle of the room of dodgy and suspicious strangers. Then by sheer coincidence, Ellie comes along at exactly the right time to see Joel get murdered.
The first death mentioned was the consequence of their actions, and happened from an elaborate and carefully made plan. Joel's death happened in the way it did, because the moon happened to be in the right place in the sky. I don't have a problem with Joel dying, it was the fact it was hamfisted and required so many coincidences to happen.
Re: Neil Druckmann Claims Comments of Next Naughty Dog Game 'Redefining' the Mainstream View of Gaming Was a Sony Misquote
@Artois2 Off the top of my head: Awful pacing, unlikable characters, boring dialogue, tone is dark throughout so it just loses impact, many moments being extremely contrived, purposefully ruined characters like Tommy, ending made the game feel like a complete waste of time.
In the first game the highs and lows which complimented each other and made such moments stand out, whereas Part 2 is just consistently bleak so it's just easy to not care by the end of it.
TLOU2 contrary to what the fanboys seem to think, is not the first story to have a major character death. Game of Thrones and Attack on Titan both have major deaths, and those stories are amazing because the characters in that died in ways that made sense and made perfect sense for the character. The major death in TLOU2 does not fit the character at all, with the circumstances being very contrived. That's why it baffles me when fanboys dismiss all criticism of the game as "you just didn't like the character death".
Re: Neil Druckmann Claims Comments of Next Naughty Dog Game 'Redefining' the Mainstream View of Gaming Was a Sony Misquote
@UltimateOtaku91 If there are plenty of stories in which main characters die but are still loved, you reckon there could be more to why TLOU2 is hated, like awful writing?
Re: Fans Positively Review Bomb Hi-Fi Rush in Wake of Xbox’s Closure of Tango Gameworks
@RoomWithaMoose The closure of Japan Studio is genuinely some of the worst gaming news I have ever heard. Such a slap in the face for developers that made some of Playstation's best games.
Re: Square Enix to 'Aggressively' Pursue Multiplatform Strategy from Now On
Makes sense. If it's not a Playstation franchise, I see no reason why it should be exclusive.