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I'm playing it on Series X, the other option doesn't work though in the poll (no matter what you type in it says invalid option)

@Splat I mean they also aren't charging $70 sooo

Worth noting that this isn't just Xbox One gameplay, it's Xbox One X which is still much more powerful than the base PS4 (about 4 times the power) and a decent bit more powerful than the PS4 Pro, so we still have yet to see how it runs on the base consoles of PS4 and Xbox One (the ones that it had "issues" performing on)

For comparison, for games that were 1080p60 on the One were 4K60 on the One X, and if it was 1080p30 on the One it would be 1080p60 or 4k30 on the One X, so a pretty hefty difference.

Will this require PS Plus though? I know on Xbox it works because there is free cloud storage,

Mine hasn't changed, I'm still level 12

Yeah I mean I'm sure it's better but not worth paying for the upgrade. Microsoft is upgrading their games pretty much the same as this (Forza is also going from 1080p30 on the One to 4K60 on Series X) and it's a free update..

@LiamCroft In theory: Increase in price --> increase of profit --> decrease of paid DLC and microtransactions because enough profit was made --> increase of content in-game (if you pay for more, you get more)

In reality: Increase in price --> increase of profit --> still have DLC and microtransactions --> increase profit even more --> no difference from the games you pay $60 for except the fact it costs more now

All these new $70 games still have "Digitial Deluxe Editions"... why did the price get raised again if nothing has changed?

This game is going to be dead on arrival...

Sony hasn't created hype around this game at all, and with being a PS5 only $70 game with microtransactions it doesn't stand a chance. It'll be $20 in a couple months and still nobody will buy it.

It's enhanced on Series X at launch though right?

@Deadhunter A free upgrade is good because not everyone is getting the PS5/Series X at launch.. so if you buy the game at release but on this gen consoles you can go back/continue for free with next-gen consoles after upgrading

@get2sammyb breathtaking, not beautiful again

I think it's exactly for people scared of heights. Makes it exciting.

I've seen so many people say they have these games, including me. Makes sense considering you can pick up Borderlands Handsome Collection for about $5 in most stores and Sonic Mania isn't too pricey. This is why we should just get more then 2 games, then everyone is happier. Instead Sony cheaps out.

@Jimmy_G_Buckets How is this essentially free at all? You need to pay for these games, and if you stop paying you lose the games..

@Abeedo I can definitely see that happening though. Sony's business choices lately compared to Microsoft could cost them the game, especially if PS5 has a steep price (judging by specs, it's not going to be cheap) and competing now with the extra competition of the Switch and Xbox's new consoles (if the rumor is true about there being a cheaper one and more expensive one more advanced than PS5, and with the addition of all their new studios for console exclusives). So it could end up like how the PS3 started out or how the Wii U was, people not wanting to upgrade for awhile and eventually going somewhere else for their games.

@JohnKarnes You say that, but I don't really see your logic or reasoning when indie games are usually under $20, so wouldn't they be deemed not worth being owned too?

And these games are not "handouts", you have to pay for these, and if you stop paying you don't get to play them anymore.

Whether you think these are good games or not, not doubt Sony really cheaped out on this one. I know these are cheap games because one of them is on gamepass and both have previously been given out on Humble Bundle. It sucks that there is no AAA game. At the very least you can't say that everybody loves these games, which is why there should be more games given out. Xbox gets 4 games a month all playable on Xbox One and always gives at the very least one AAA game, a lot of times more. Really no excuse for this, especially for how much they make off of PS Plus. If this continues, after my year membership expires it won't be renewed..

I don't really understand collecting that much stuff of a certain series, but hey if it makes him happy go for it!

You can purchase it on PC/Xbox but you can't equip it

@ellsworth004 It's described as "a single-player, action-adventure title" so looks to me like it'll be single-player only (or at the very least have it be the main focus)

Source: https://www.starwars.com/news/ea-play-2018-star-wars-jedi-fallen-order-star-wars-battlefront-ii

Any word on price for PSVR? If it's $15-$20 like it is on Steam I'll pick it up, but it'd be a pass for $29.99+.

I think streaming will definitely be a mainline thing in the future. Internet speeds are only getting better and physical media is on the decline. However right now or even in the next 10 years I do not think it'll be mainstream. Still not everyone has fast enough internet, which is probably why lots of people are voting against it because it's the worry of quality. I too am worried about Stadia working well and everything of course, but I can see it not being an issue in the future, similar to what happened to movies.

@Imagremlin Well guess what happened today!

At Best Buy for Black Friday it's going to be $39.99, and it's digital too so it's what I'm going to do.

@Knuckles-Fajita Most developers say their sales on Switch are great from what I've seen, or at least better than other consoles. Did they say sales weren't good on this (coming to another platform later isn't an example, because we know games like PUBG definitely made money)

Wow 76 votes and it's 50/50

I think it was a lot better than I expected and it was pretty enjoyable overall in my opinion

Tetris and Minecraft sold better than Wii Sports. Just Wii Sports still is the best selling game sold on a single console.

If you don't have a 4K TV buy neither. Just buy a PS4 Slim like I did.

Yeah I'll get it as long as it's $20 or less. I got it for free on steam from a friend and it's hard playing on my laptop so it'd be nice on PS4 for local play. I remember playing this and I would always get disconnected and stuff, but that when it was in early access so it probably has changed.

Was just going to buy a 12 month in December, but I'll just snatch this

Sad there's only 12 a year but this is still a lot better

Great news, this shows how little everyone wants loot boxes, especially for games like this.

I would buy it, but I do not have the space for VR or else I would've had it awhile ago.

I'll buy at the $30 mark at most. I only paid $20 for the first battlefront and don't see a huge reason to upgrade for $60

I'm the most excited for Spider-Man

I would love Last of Us or Heavy Rain since I haven't played either

Super Mario Odyssey!!!!

@Bliquid BOTW and especially Odyssey look absolutely amazing. It just doesn't have realistic graphics, and it's not trying to. I've always been a fan of "cartoony" graphics (a reason why Wind Waker is my favorite game) because it just makes the game more fun for me. I'm not saying games like Uncharted 4 don't look great too, I'm just saying games can have good graphics even though they aren't realistic.

Never backed any project. I've never seen anything that I'm so interested in to do so. It just doesn't seem worth it to me in the end

@Dange $30 in the US so it should be £30 or less.

Still don't own any VR. It's not that I can't afford it, it's just I don't have the required room to use it. Hopefully by the time I can get one VR will be better (and cheaper).

Bought a PS4 last month but got a Switch in April, and they are two completely different systems.

Been playing Xenoblade Chronicles 3D on my New 2DS XL and also Splatoon 2 trying to complete the story with all weapons

I've never played any GTA games

@BladeRider Enough to be worth over $40 more? I don't think so....

Also my friends have the first Destiny not the the second one so I can play with them.

I just bought Destiny the taken king legendary edition for $20. It's downloading right now. The people at Best Buy were like dude destiny 2 is out ya know....and I do know. It looks like exactly the same game so why pay $40 more for it?

I just get the black controller. It's exactly the same thing but cheaper. And some of the colored ones are the older model too so in my mind I'd rather just buy a black for for $5. Also I think the black looks the best because it matches the PS4

I actually just picked up Uncharted 4 in the PS4 Bundle today, a few hours ago. So yeah I'm playing that.