@get2sammyb "Clearly the project is deep in the red right now, but the firm doesn’t seem all that fussed about the losses it’s incurring."
This line the the article you wrote caught my eye, so my question is, do developers/publisher make money by putting their game in game pass? If they do, do they make the most they could possibly make, or could they have made more, for example, if they released the game normally or traditionally?
I know Microsoft pays them to have their game in the game pass model, and gamers certainly benefit the most from the model, but my question was regarding developers. I did not want to comment since I still know little about the subject so I had hope you might know more. Thanks in advance.
Definitely a monumental moment in gaming history, I do not think a purchase for that amount of money had ever been done (if I am incorrect, feel free to correct me).
Definitely not upset as some are, as it is business. Make no mistake, microsoft is trying to sell you some xboxes or get you into it's ecosystem with this purchase. Good luck to them and their ambitions.
I will definitely miss Arkane Studios. Dishonored is amazing and if they continue the franchise I will not be able to play it unless I invest in building a PC, which this move has all but certainly made me realize it is not a bad idea to do.
Good to hear the support. Sony has always had the support of third party developers, the best really, and growing up it was painful to admit as I was a huge( and still am) Ninty supporter. But I soon realized that Sony merited that support as they were easier to work with than Nintendo.
The only hiccup one can say is the PS3, because of the cell architecture. It is still an amazing console and I still own and play on mine, but sony has definitely learned from this so-called setback and realized they need to do what made developers happy to work with them in the first place. Long may it continue.
Great to see the demand for the V is there. I want unable to preorder one and I basically just decided to wait 6 months to a year before joining the V family.
Still have not decided what exactly to do. On one hand, gaming is a passionate hobby of mine, but one I do not need to live a comfortable and enjoyable life. I have an obligation to myself and others in my life to decide that there are more important things, necessities, to spend your hard earn money on.
On the other hand, I decided to go all digital with the V because I wanted to support some of my favorite development teams and I know, or rather have read articles on the topic, that buying digitally supports them and is financially healthier for them in the long run.
All of us have a difficult decision to make but waiting for sales is always a sensible thing to do.
Nice, although I will never get to see it up close as I will start purchasing digital games with the fiver on a more frequent basis. Digital future here I come.
@Matroska I agree. The facts and thruths are there for all to see, even though it is admittedly still hurtful. We all love gaming and it is a passionate hobby for most, but there are definitely more important things to spend your money on.
The good thing is we still have options which I will implore people to consider. Waiting for a sale, or better yet, waiting for the inevitable complete edition to release with all extra content will be the way to go for many this coming generation.
I will suggest only preordering a game from your favorite developer for example.
Just my thoughts as I understand the rise in prices but I am still not happy to see it.
Definitely interested and will get it when I have the fiver. Love Dishonored and Arkane Studios has my support for those brilliant Dishonored games they have developed.
If I change my mind and decide to purchase the fiver on launch window (was originally thinking of waiting a year and play my backlog of PS IV games), this is at the top of my list of games to purchase, along with Demon's Souls if it is a launch title.
Very much looking forward to experiencing this game on the PS5, and buying the new edition since I have heard great things about the game. This controversy does not affect me but my condolences to those who are upset about the situation.
Yes I am, already pre-ordered since day it was announced for Western release. Huge supporter of Vanillaware and I am looking forward to XIII Sentinels.
I still have my physical copy sealed, and the season pass bought from psn store since forever XD. Been meaning to get around to playing it but my backlog and life always get in the way. Might as well hold off now to experience it on PS5.
@rachetmarvel No offense taken mate and you bring up a good point about the assets being reused.
We as gamers can refute these advances by talking with our wallets and I believe may of us will defo do this. I think companies need to set a budget then in order to keep cost down and reassess game lengths in order to do this. I think there was an old article here on push square a while back about a former Sony CEO mentioning this. He was bang on I felt.
Not particularly static to be paying more but I do understand the reasoning, at least with regards to rising development costs (I am okay with DLC that adds to the gameplay experience, but against microtransactions, but that is just me).
The truth has always been that gaming has never been an inexpensive hobby for most, and it will continue to be this way if not worse, maybe. Time will tell how gamers react to this, and it will show on sales charts that is for sure.
@1_W1NG3D_4NG3L Thank you for the suggestion, I will definitely keep it in mind. I did enjoy the campaigns on both Blops I and Blops II. I always felt Treyarch did a good job with those.
I have not played a COD game since Blops II. I really enjoyed both Blops I and Blops II, but decided to leave the series after that because I had my enjoyment. Since it has been a while I am definitely looking forward to the game because I might jump back in since the series will feel fresh to me, at least I hope. Looking forward to next week.
Console Wars are fun for me from a personal perspective, as long as they are not hurtful. I do not take part in them, but they do provide me with hilarious material I can read and laugh to.
However, spreading false information is something nobody should tolerate. What is the goal of lying? I am glad this was proven false but people should never take what is said on social media as thruth.
Shame that some sites ran with it and made entire articles about it, that is just bad journalism.
Like previous comments have mention, the blue box coloring does not mesh well with the new black and white header. They should of used the color of the PS3 cases, it would of worked well.
However, from a personal standpoint it will not matter to me much since I will be going all digital with the PS5.
The fixed camera angles and tank controls of earlier Resi games contributed a huge part in the tense and scary situations the game put the player in. I still believe there is a market for games of this type of control scheme.
I have had it pre-order since it was announced it was getting a western release date, back in June I believe. Big admirer of Vanillaware, so anything with their name on it will get my attention. I am looking forward to the game and believe it will continue to uphold the quality of Vanillaware.
The alpine green is my favorite. The white and green combination is always great, and it just looks class.
I still regret not getting it while it was still being manufactured but, I still had a working controller at the time and could not justify adding another.
So glad I have waited on my purchase of Control. I know how highly thought of it is to many, a great game.
For me this has no negative effects but, I do feel for early adopters who supported the game from day one. If anything this teaches us all to be more patient when it comes to game releases, since it seems an inevitable complete edition will be release in the future.
@ShogunRok That is my favorite color actually, the Alpine Green. I missed it when it was originally released and have been looking at eBay but, the prices and the fact that they could be fake are making me think twice. It was a great color Alpine Green and I wish I could of picked one up when they were being manufactured.
Was looking great and I was interested in the game when I read that Platinum Games was the developer but, ever since they left the project my interest dwindled.
This and Godfall where my highlights from yesterday's State of Play. Shame about everything that has come to light since the reveal. Hopeful that things get resolved and situated and everyone can talk about the game as opposed to the allegations.
@Kristos @TBubs311 Thanks for the responses. I do own a PS4 Pro, and because of your input I think maybe I should just get it now instead of waiting. Cheers!
Aon Must Die and Godfall were my personal highlights. I am very intrigued by both these games.
The Pathless is another game that was intriguing, though I am confused on the gameplay dynamics but, I am sure as I learn more it will make more sense. Look very unique.
Arcade sticks will work on PS5, correct? I still have and use my MadCatz fightstick from PS3 that works with the PS4, I hope to be able to take it with me to PS5 as well, since this game will definitely be backwards compatible on PS5.
Great announcement, Capcom has done an amazing job improving the game all these years.
I have over 150+ physical games for both PS3 and PS4 (around 75 games for each, maybe a bit more) but, I will be transitioning to all digital when I eventually get the PS5.
I do still prefer physical games but my main reasoning to go all digital is for the health of the developers, as a while back I read an article about how healthy Capcom business is at the moment and they themselves credited digital sales for that.
I think they get a bigger cut of a game sale is it is sold digitally over physically if I am correct.
Congratulations to the franchise. Any franchise that can last 20 years is a great accomplishment. I myself have never played a Dynasty Warriors game but I do own and enjoyed the Dragon Quest games for the PS4 that are similar in gameplay to Dynasty Warriors. Fun games and worth playing if you have not.
Developed by Omega Force, the same team that is part of Koei Tecmo.
Looking forward to it. As someone who will not be upgrading to next generation hardware any time soon, I am looking to see if I have anything to look forward to for the future of PS4.
If not it at least gives me time to look at my backlog and try to get as many finished before I eventually move on to the next generation.
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Re: Reaction: Bethesda Acquisition Is a Kick in the Balls for PS5, But Sony's Goals Won't Change
@get2sammyb "Clearly the project is deep in the red right now, but the firm doesn’t seem all that fussed about the losses it’s incurring."
This line the the article you wrote caught my eye, so my question is, do developers/publisher make money by putting their game in game pass? If they do, do they make the most they could possibly make, or could they have made more, for example, if they released the game normally or traditionally?
I know Microsoft pays them to have their game in the game pass model, and gamers certainly benefit the most from the model, but my question was regarding developers. I did not want to comment since I still know little about the subject so I had hope you might know more. Thanks in advance.
Re: Reaction: Bethesda Acquisition Is a Kick in the Balls for PS5, But Sony's Goals Won't Change
Definitely a monumental moment in gaming history, I do not think a purchase for that amount of money had ever been done (if I am incorrect, feel free to correct me).
Definitely not upset as some are, as it is business. Make no mistake, microsoft is trying to sell you some xboxes or get you into it's ecosystem with this purchase. Good luck to them and their ambitions.
I will definitely miss Arkane Studios. Dishonored is amazing and if they continue the franchise I will not be able to play it unless I invest in building a PC, which this move has all but certainly made me realize it is not a bad idea to do.
Re: The Elder Scrolls, Fallout Developer Bethesda Bought By Microsoft
Love the Dishonored series. I will miss it no doubt (at least until I am able to build a PC).
Re: Devs Evangelising the Ease of PS5's Development Environment
Good to hear the support. Sony has always had the support of third party developers, the best really, and growing up it was painful to admit as I was a huge( and still am) Ninty supporter. But I soon realized that Sony merited that support as they were easier to work with than Nintendo.
The only hiccup one can say is the PS3, because of the cell architecture. It is still an amazing console and I still own and play on mine, but sony has definitely learned from this so-called setback and realized they need to do what made developers happy to work with them in the first place. Long may it continue.
Re: Amazon Contacting Customers with PS5 Pre-Orders Warning Launch Day Delivery Is Not Guaranteed
Great to see the demand for the V is there. I want unable to preorder one and I basically just decided to wait 6 months to a year before joining the V family.
Re: Soapbox: Screw Sony's PS5 Game Pricing, I'll Just Wait for Sales
Still have not decided what exactly to do. On one hand, gaming is a passionate hobby of mine, but one I do not need to live a comfortable and enjoyable life. I have an obligation to myself and others in my life to decide that there are more important things, necessities, to spend your hard earn money on.
On the other hand, I decided to go all digital with the V because I wanted to support some of my favorite development teams and I know, or rather have read articles on the topic, that buying digitally supports them and is financially healthier for them in the long run.
All of us have a difficult decision to make but waiting for sales is always a sensible thing to do.
Re: Devil May Cry 5 Special Edition PS5 Box Art Is Pure Smokin' Sexy Style
Nice, although I will never get to see it up close as I will start purchasing digital games with the fiver on a more frequent basis. Digital future here I come.
Re: Reaction: The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly of Today's PS5 News
@Matroska I agree. The facts and thruths are there for all to see, even though it is admittedly still hurtful. We all love gaming and it is a passionate hobby for most, but there are definitely more important things to spend your money on.
The good thing is we still have options which I will implore people to consider. Waiting for a sale, or better yet, waiting for the inevitable complete edition to release with all extra content will be the way to go for many this coming generation.
I will suggest only preordering a game from your favorite developer for example.
Just my thoughts as I understand the rise in prices but I am still not happy to see it.
Re: Deathloop Gets Stylish New PS5 Gameplay Trailer
Definitely interested and will get it when I have the fiver. Love Dishonored and Arkane Studios has my support for those brilliant Dishonored games they have developed.
Re: Demon's Souls Remake Is a PS5 Launch Game
My most anticipated game. I have the original on PS3 but never beat it.
If I get a PS5 at launch, it is this game and Godfall for me as well as a the 3D headset.
Re: Godfall Gets Its Best PS5 Trailer Yet
If I change my mind and decide to purchase the fiver on launch window (was originally thinking of waiting a year and play my backlog of PS IV games), this is at the top of my list of games to purchase, along with Demon's Souls if it is a launch title.
Exciting times!
Re: Control PS5 Upgrade Controversy Worsens as Owners Accidentally Get Free Access to Ultimate Edition
Very much looking forward to experiencing this game on the PS5, and buying the new edition since I have heard great things about the game. This controversy does not affect me but my condolences to those who are upset about the situation.
Re: PS5 Showcase Event Confirmed for This Wednesday
Excited! Looking very much forward to said showcase.
Re: Poll: Did You Buy a PlayStation at Launch 25 Years Ago?
I was nine years old, so no. I was gifted one 6 years later though, and I still have it along with the games I own. Still works too.
Re: 13 Sentinels Gets a New English Voice Trailer
Yes I am, already pre-ordered since day it was announced for Western release. Huge supporter of Vanillaware and I am looking forward to XIII Sentinels.
Re: The Witcher 3 Announced for PS5, Free Upgrade for PS4 Owners
I still have my physical copy sealed, and the season pass bought from psn store since forever XD. Been meaning to get around to playing it but my backlog and life always get in the way. Might as well hold off now to experience it on PS5.
Re: Activision Bumping PS5 Price Points Beginning with Call of Duty: Black Ops Cold War
@rachetmarvel No offense taken mate and you bring up a good point about the assets being reused.
We as gamers can refute these advances by talking with our wallets and I believe may of us will defo do this. I think companies need to set a budget then in order to keep cost down and reassess game lengths in order to do this. I think there was an old article here on push square a while back about a former Sony CEO mentioning this. He was bang on I felt.
Re: Activision Bumping PS5 Price Points Beginning with Call of Duty: Black Ops Cold War
Not particularly static to be paying more but I do understand the reasoning, at least with regards to rising development costs (I am okay with DLC that adds to the gameplay experience, but against microtransactions, but that is just me).
The truth has always been that gaming has never been an inexpensive hobby for most, and it will continue to be this way if not worse, maybe. Time will tell how gamers react to this, and it will show on sales charts that is for sure.
Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops Cold War Announced, Full Reveal Next Week
@1_W1NG3D_4NG3L Thank you for the suggestion, I will definitely keep it in mind. I did enjoy the campaigns on both Blops I and Blops II. I always felt Treyarch did a good job with those.
Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops Cold War Announced, Full Reveal Next Week
I have not played a COD game since Blops II. I really enjoyed both Blops I and Blops II, but decided to leave the series after that because I had my enjoyment. Since it has been a while I am definitely looking forward to the game because I might jump back in since the series will feel fresh to me, at least I hope. Looking forward to next week.
Re: There's Been a Big Scandal About Whether PS5 Can Run Games in 4K
Console Wars are fun for me from a personal perspective, as long as they are not hurtful. I do not take part in them, but they do provide me with hilarious material I can read and laugh to.
However, spreading false information is something nobody should tolerate. What is the goal of lying? I am glad this was proven false but people should never take what is said on social media as thruth.
Shame that some sites ran with it and made entire articles about it, that is just bad journalism.
Re: A Bunch More PS5 Box Art Has Emerged
Like previous comments have mention, the blue box coloring does not mesh well with the new black and white header. They should of used the color of the PS3 cases, it would of worked well.
However, from a personal standpoint it will not matter to me much since I will be going all digital with the PS5.
Re: Interview: How Survival Horror Game Tormented Souls Brings Back the Mechanics of Old
The fixed camera angles and tank controls of earlier Resi games contributed a huge part in the tense and scary situations the game put the player in. I still believe there is a market for games of this type of control scheme.
Re: 13 Sentinels Gets 19 Minutes of Gorgeous English Gameplay
I have had it pre-order since it was announced it was getting a western release date, back in June I believe. Big admirer of Vanillaware, so anything with their name on it will get my attention. I am looking forward to the game and believe it will continue to uphold the quality of Vanillaware.
Re: Guide: All PS4 Controller Colours
The alpine green is my favorite. The white and green combination is always great, and it just looks class.
I still regret not getting it while it was still being manufactured but, I still had a working controller at the time and could not justify adding another.
Re: Control Locks Free PS5 Upgrade Behind Ultimate Edition
So glad I have waited on my purchase of Control. I know how highly thought of it is to many, a great game.
For me this has no negative effects but, I do feel for early adopters who supported the game from day one. If anything this teaches us all to be more patient when it comes to game releases, since it seems an inevitable complete edition will be release in the future.
Re: PlayStation Is Bringing Back a Number of PS4 Controller Colours This Month
@ShogunRok That is my favorite color actually, the Alpine Green. I missed it when it was originally released and have been looking at eBay but, the prices and the fact that they could be fake are making me think twice. It was a great color Alpine Green and I wish I could of picked one up when they were being manufactured.
Re: Amazing Looking Action RPG Granblue Fantasy: Relink Is Still in Development, Release Date Announcement Teased
Was looking great and I was interested in the game when I read that Platinum Games was the developer but, ever since they left the project my interest dwindled.
Re: State of Play Game Aeon Must Die Caught in Controversy
This and Godfall where my highlights from yesterday's State of Play. Shame about everything that has come to light since the reveal. Hopeful that things get resolved and situated and everyone can talk about the game as opposed to the allegations.
Re: Control's Alan Wake-Inspired DLC Arrives on PS4 Later This Month
@Kristos @TBubs311 Thanks for the responses. I do own a PS4 Pro, and because of your input I think maybe I should just get it now instead of waiting. Cheers!
Re: Control's Alan Wake-Inspired DLC Arrives on PS4 Later This Month
I am waiting for the inevitable PS5 release since I read articles describing that it will run better on that system.
To those who have played or own the game, how does it play/run on PS4?
Re: Talking Point: What Did You Think of the Latest State of Play Livestream?
Aon Must Die and Godfall were my personal highlights. I am very intrigued by both these games.
The Pathless is another game that was intriguing, though I am confused on the gameplay dynamics but, I am sure as I learn more it will make more sense. Look very unique.
Re: Street Fighter V Confirms Dan, Rose, Oro, and Akira from Rival Schools for Season V
Arcade sticks will work on PS5, correct? I still have and use my MadCatz fightstick from PS3 that works with the PS4, I hope to be able to take it with me to PS5 as well, since this game will definitely be backwards compatible on PS5.
Great announcement, Capcom has done an amazing job improving the game all these years.
Re: Game Sales Are Leaning More and More Towards Digital as Sony Reports Huge PlayStation Store Success
I have over 150+ physical games for both PS3 and PS4 (around 75 games for each, maybe a bit more) but, I will be transitioning to all digital when I eventually get the PS5.
I do still prefer physical games but my main reasoning to go all digital is for the health of the developers, as a while back I read an article about how healthy Capcom business is at the moment and they themselves credited digital sales for that.
I think they get a bigger cut of a game sale is it is sold digitally over physically if I am correct.
Re: The Resident Evil Series Has Now Sold 100 Million Copies Worldwide
One of my favorite video game franchises ever. Long may this success continue.
Re: Koei Tecmo Celebrates 20 Years of Dynasty Warriors with Nostalgia-Driven Trailer
Congratulations to the franchise. Any franchise that can last 20 years is a great accomplishment. I myself have never played a Dynasty Warriors game but I do own and enjoyed the Dragon Quest games for the PS4 that are similar in gameplay to Dynasty Warriors. Fun games and worth playing if you have not.
Developed by Omega Force, the same team that is part of Koei Tecmo.
Re: State of Play Confirmed for This Week, Will Focus on PS4 and PSVR Games Along with Some PS5 Game Updates
Looking forward to it. As someone who will not be upgrading to next generation hardware any time soon, I am looking to see if I have anything to look forward to for the future of PS4.
If not it at least gives me time to look at my backlog and try to get as many finished before I eventually move on to the next generation.