"At least 1.577 billion copies of PS4 titles have been sold to customers since it launched all the way back in late 2013 — a stat that beats the previous record (also held by Sony) of 1.537 billion PS2 games out in the wild"
It's sold about 400k more copies than PS2. That sound like massive growth?
You've proved my point inadvertently... God Of War 2018 Spider-Man 2018 Last of Us 2013 Uncharted 2009 - 2016 Horizon Forbidden West 2022 (PS4) Ghost of Tsushima 2020 Demon Souls 2009 Bloodborne 2015
Of course I like these games (except horizon 2) but looking at the dates, you can officially be classed as a retro gamer...do you not see that??
Right, if you had spent time at developers then you know categorically that gaming is massively down over previous generations. Not sure if it's correct revenue is up after cost is factored but if it is it's only because they have raised the prices to unsustainable levels.
Console gaming is declining, and with the quality of output in 2023 it will accelerate, they are turning gamers like me who spend a ludicrous amount of money on games (i average between MS, PS, Switch and Steam about £300 - £500 per month) away from their products, I know I'm not alone and this will have a huge impact because gamers coming up after us either don't have the same level of disposable income or do not spend as much time gaming on consoles unless it's a f2p model.
The biggest investor in Sony right now is Blackrock, and they are not know for leaving companies intact when they hold majority shares, and if you don't think they are already influencing content I have a bridge to sell you.
There will be a fundamental shift in what is on offer when PS6 comes around.
@Titntin ugh...there's always one. Tried my best to keep it nice, but ok I'll bite.
Of course I still enjoy gaming. I Have been playing everything since 1980. Nothing changes on that front. I Play games every day of the week and have played more games that you could possobly fathom in the small worldview you have.
I'm done with modern Sony gaming, they are designed to be simple bits of fluff for people with the emotional range of a turnip.
Enjoy your press X to win games, I'll be enjoying everything else thats on offer through PC and also emulation, you know when they used to stretch your abilities or make you think.
Good on them, I've been buying PlayStation since I picked up a PS1 on launch day in HMV and have gone through every handheld, every console, and every peripheral. I even worked at Sony and was involved in the creation of the PSN network between the PS2 and PS3 generations. I have never missed a 1st party game or product release since then. Between PS3, PSP, PS4, Vita and PS5 I have a digital collection in the thousands.
But this generation has shown me that these games are no longer being developed by passionate gamers, they are being created by shareholders to appeal to the widest audience possible, so by trying to appeal to everyone they in my opinion are appealing to no one.
Spiderman 2 was the last PS5 game I'll be picking up and once my premium sub ends next august I will be relegating the PS5 and the PSVR2 to the cupboard, these games are clearly for a younger audience these days!
Cue the "you won't be missed messages" but I do wonder if I'm not alone in this, when you have people who have spend hundreds of thousands pounds on a brand walking away at some point it will make a dent.
I picked it up on PC and it's a solid 8 for me, everything I'd want in a Robo game, only issue I have is Peter Weller is a bit too old for this now, but great they added him.
I just love that it is silly, it acknowledges its silly and it realises it's a videogame rather than some deadly serious thing that is going for a bafta.
It's just a really fun refreshing game, just wish we had more.
@theSpectre I know every game has bugs, but I've had more bugs in this than anything else I've picked up this year, and at least 5 hard resets. This needed another month in the oven.
I decided because it was less than £2.50 on steam to buy Freedom Fighters from 2003, and with controller support it's still massive fun, weekend sorted.
Haven't used my psvr 2 in months, this might give me an excuse to boot it back up with the missus, she loves synth riders, even more than Beat Saber which I have to disagree on!
I'm about 10 hours in and it really is just pretty DLC from first one to be honest, only the writing seems to be worse, the sidequests are really dull and I know some people say they haven't had any but I've had a massive amout of bugs, at least 5 or 6 hard resets and countless times where the last bad guy in a mission is hidden inside a wall or building, it's infuriating. Far too much bloat in this, without there is probably about 3 hours worth of decent content.
I keep dipping into Spiderman 2 but just got to another MJ mission so have put it down for now, can't decide if I want to switch to Alan Wake or MGS while I'm waiting for the early unlock on Robocop.
Paid for the top sub and had over a year, and haven't actually used it for anything, I'll be scrapping it come renewal time. My problem is that I purchased everything from PS1 right through to now, so none of this content is worthwhile to me.
Clipping is a massive issue for me at the minute, I have ended up stuck in allsorts, traversal has some weird jank sometimes when changing direction and the controls have a wobble, a few T poses where I look like Tom Cruise in mission impossible when trying to land on the ground. And as for the NPCs, they all seem to be a variation of black guy wearing different coloured headphones. I Must have rescued him 30 times so far, if I were him I would never leave the house.
Also I rescued him once and he had the same face but white and he had black hands, I have never seen mixed race look like that before.
@Korgon the problem I have is that I already own these games on many formats, and i can get them running at a higher resolution and frame rate than what they have managed. Anyone else can do the same with a very basic PC or laptop. They haven't done enough work to justify the purchase.
I'm definitely probably going to pass this time, I bought them all on NES, PS1 and PS2 and PC when they came out, I imported the complete collection on PS3 Japan and I bought the remasters on PS3 and Vita and even had some of my covers signed by Hideo in Leipzig back in 2005.
@StrawberryTurtle He did not write that game, he was named in it but wasn't the main writer, that was Bruce Straley. Can't you tell simply by looking at the quality of writing between 1 and 2??
I have already finished te story mode and moved on to other games. Never get why people continue with fighting games once they have played through them, what are they expecting to change other than skins? You have seen all it has to offer, stop pouring money down the drain and move on to other games.
FFXVI was my biggest disappointment this year so far, it just wasn't a FF game, graphics and fighting was great but it just didn't have what makes FF in it, it lacked a soul. And don't get me started on that ending.
Sorry but We Love Katamari has to take the top spot so far this year for me.
What amazes me more about this is the amount of people still playing FIFA, I haven't bought it since Fifa 96 on the SNES, i could tell back then they were robbing people with yearly iterations and 28 years later here we are.
I'll just stick to sensible soccer and renaming the teams with a keyboard.
It's story was about time travel and zombies and after reading it had far less plot holes than TLOU 2. For 99p, I would be all over that thing it looks funny as hell.
FES and portable features will be added to a Royal version. Atlus has stung me too many times over the years, I will be waiting a while before buying this one.
Stoll amazes me we stilll haven't got a version of Astrobot for PSVR 2. That game was one of the main reasons that kept me interested in VR, 1sp person stuff doesn't interest me that much.
Was reading that Imsomniac were apologising for the last one being "Cop Friendly" and they have rectified it this time around. We really do live in an alternate reality now don't we?
I got mine on launch and love that I no longer get motion sickness like I did with PSVR1 and some of the games are superb (Demio is a definite standout for me) bit but cannot believe we never got an Astro Bot game at launch, I genuinely thought that was a Mario beater and the future of platform games and we got nothing on it. It hasn't had a true killer app.
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Re: PS5's Install Base Closes on 50 Million As Sony Gets Increasingly Aggressive
@Titntin dude, you love the company, I get it.
Me I'm more picky where I spend my money, this gen has been nothing but sequels and remakes and it's simoly not for me.
Re: PS5's Install Base Closes on 50 Million As Sony Gets Increasingly Aggressive
@Titntin 7.2% makes them the largest shareholder...
You keep talking revenue, look at the units - 158 million PS2, 117 million PS4.
I would be shocked if PS5 touches the PS4 numbers over its lifecycle
Re: PS5's Install Base Closes on 50 Million As Sony Gets Increasingly Aggressive
@ChrisDeku sigh
"At least 1.577 billion copies of PS4 titles have been sold to customers since it launched all the way back in late 2013 — a stat that beats the previous record (also held by Sony) of 1.537 billion PS2 games out in the wild"
It's sold about 400k more copies than PS2. That sound like massive growth?
Re: PS5's Install Base Closes on 50 Million As Sony Gets Increasingly Aggressive
@W1ck3d_p
You've proved my point inadvertently...
God Of War 2018
Spider-Man 2018
Last of Us 2013
Uncharted 2009 - 2016
Horizon Forbidden West 2022 (PS4)
Ghost of Tsushima 2020
Demon Souls 2009
Bloodborne 2015
Of course I like these games (except horizon 2) but looking at the dates, you can officially be classed as a retro gamer...do you not see that??
Re: PS5's Install Base Closes on 50 Million As Sony Gets Increasingly Aggressive
@Titntin ah playing the victim now are we?
Right, if you had spent time at developers then you know categorically that gaming is massively down over previous generations. Not sure if it's correct revenue is up after cost is factored but if it is it's only because they have raised the prices to unsustainable levels.
Console gaming is declining, and with the quality of output in 2023 it will accelerate, they are turning gamers like me who spend a ludicrous amount of money on games (i average between MS, PS, Switch and Steam about £300 - £500 per month) away from their products, I know I'm not alone and this will have a huge impact because gamers coming up after us either don't have the same level of disposable income or do not spend as much time gaming on consoles unless it's a f2p model.
The biggest investor in Sony right now is Blackrock, and they are not know for leaving companies intact when they hold majority shares, and if you don't think they are already influencing content I have a bridge to sell you.
There will be a fundamental shift in what is on offer when PS6 comes around.
Re: PS5's Install Base Closes on 50 Million As Sony Gets Increasingly Aggressive
@GamingFan4Lyf I'm the same, and I will be picking up Rebirth (and end up picking it up again when it comes to PC)
I always used PS for the exclusives but for me they have just become incredibly dull.
I actually stopped playing Spiderman 2 at the point where I had to do a second MJ mission, good lord those things are just embarrassing.
Re: PS5's Install Base Closes on 50 Million As Sony Gets Increasingly Aggressive
@Titntin Also to add to this, sales are significantly lower than PS2 game sales were, what are you talking about?
Gran Turismo 3 sold 15 million copies, GTA SA did 17 million, there were bucketloads of titles selling over 10 milllion.
Gaming is declining, and my "misinformed" nature knows why, you keep clinging to that sinking ship though pal.
Re: PS5's Install Base Closes on 50 Million As Sony Gets Increasingly Aggressive
@Titntin ugh...there's always one. Tried my best to keep it nice, but ok I'll bite.
Of course I still enjoy gaming. I Have been playing everything since 1980. Nothing changes on that front. I Play games every day of the week and have played more games that you could possobly fathom in the small worldview you have.
I'm done with modern Sony gaming, they are designed to be simple bits of fluff for people with the emotional range of a turnip.
Enjoy your press X to win games, I'll be enjoying everything else thats on offer through PC and also emulation, you know when they used to stretch your abilities or make you think.
Re: Elon Musk May Try to Stop PS5, PS4's Twitter Integration Removal
Far too much free speech on there Blackrock wouldn't like Sony doing that.
Re: RoboCop: Rogue City (PS5) - A Servicable Shooter for Nostalgia Enthusiasts
@DennisReynolds When I walked into the convenience store and the shopkeeper said to a guy "that costs more than a dollar"
Re: PS5's Install Base Closes on 50 Million As Sony Gets Increasingly Aggressive
Good on them, I've been buying PlayStation since I picked up a PS1 on launch day in HMV and have gone through every handheld, every console, and every peripheral. I even worked at Sony and was involved in the creation of the PSN network between the PS2 and PS3 generations. I have never missed a 1st party game or product release since then. Between PS3, PSP, PS4, Vita and PS5 I have a digital collection in the thousands.
But this generation has shown me that these games are no longer being developed by passionate gamers, they are being created by shareholders to appeal to the widest audience possible, so by trying to appeal to everyone they in my opinion are appealing to no one.
Spiderman 2 was the last PS5 game I'll be picking up and once my premium sub ends next august I will be relegating the PS5 and the PSVR2 to the cupboard, these games are clearly for a younger audience these days!
Cue the "you won't be missed messages" but I do wonder if I'm not alone in this, when you have people who have spend hundreds of thousands pounds on a brand walking away at some point it will make a dent.
Re: UK Sales Charts: Marvel's Spider-Man 2 Holds Back RoboCop, But FC 24 Sneaks By
@StuartMc1 Robocop £45 - solid 20 hours entertainment, with replayability. (3 endings)
Best money I have spent in the last 2 years.
Re: UK Sales Charts: Marvel's Spider-Man 2 Holds Back RoboCop, But FC 24 Sneaks By
Just finished Robocop last night, for anyone who just enjoys a fun game without a million markers on a map I cannot recommend this enough.
It was such a pallette cleanse from the beigefest lately.
Re: RoboCop: Rogue City (PS5) - A Servicable Shooter for Nostalgia Enthusiasts
@DennisReynolds It was the publishers that realeased Rambo, the devs did the Terminator game.
Re: RoboCop: Rogue City (PS5) - A Servicable Shooter for Nostalgia Enthusiasts
I picked it up on PC and it's a solid 8 for me, everything I'd want in a Robo game, only issue I have is Peter Weller is a bit too old for this now, but great they added him.
I just love that it is silly, it acknowledges its silly and it realises it's a videogame rather than some deadly serious thing that is going for a bafta.
It's just a really fun refreshing game, just wish we had more.
Re: Marvel's Spider-Man 2 Update Fixes Flag Issue and More, Here Are the Patch Notes
@theSpectre I know every game has bugs, but I've had more bugs in this than anything else I've picked up this year, and at least 5 hard resets. This needed another month in the oven.
Re: Marvel's Spider-Man 2 Update Fixes Flag Issue and More, Here Are the Patch Notes
I hope the clipping has improved, I've had a nightmare with it, and the crashing.
But what about the cuban flag suit I unlocked, seems a bit silly to have that?
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 500
I decided because it was less than £2.50 on steam to buy Freedom Fighters from 2003, and with controller support it's still massive fun, weekend sorted.
Re: Synth Riders Spooky Update Adds Yet More Free Content
Haven't used my psvr 2 in months, this might give me an excuse to boot it back up with the missus, she loves synth riders, even more than Beat Saber which I have to disagree on!
Re: Delayed for an Impressive Sixth Time, Skull and Bones Now Expected in Early 2024
The need to just release it and do a tax write off at this point. I can't believe anyone would be silly enough to buy it unless it was £2 in a sale.
Re: Poll: What Review Score Would You Give Marvel's Spider-Man 2?
I'm about 10 hours in and it really is just pretty DLC from first one to be honest, only the writing seems to be worse, the sidequests are really dull and I know some people say they haven't had any but I've had a massive amout of bugs, at least 5 or 6 hard resets and countless times where the last bad guy in a mission is hidden inside a wall or building, it's infuriating. Far too much bloat in this, without there is probably about 3 hours worth of decent content.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 500
Happy 500!
I keep dipping into Spiderman 2 but just got to another MJ mission so have put it down for now, can't decide if I want to switch to Alan Wake or MGS while I'm waiting for the early unlock on Robocop.
Re: Sony on PS Plus Price Increase: We Want to Make PlayStation Plus Great
Paid for the top sub and had over a year, and haven't actually used it for anything, I'll be scrapping it come renewal time. My problem is that I purchased everything from PS1 right through to now, so none of this content is worthwhile to me.
Re: Poll: Spider-Man 2 PS5 Bugs are Apparently a Real Problem, But Have You Had Any?
Clipping is a massive issue for me at the minute, I have ended up stuck in allsorts, traversal has some weird jank sometimes when changing direction and the controls have a wobble, a few T poses where I look like Tom Cruise in mission impossible when trying to land on the ground. And as for the NPCs, they all seem to be a variation of black guy wearing different coloured headphones. I Must have rescued him 30 times so far, if I were him I would never leave the house.
Also I rescued him once and he had the same face but white and he had black hands, I have never seen mixed race look like that before.
Re: Konami Aware of Metal Gear Solid: Master Collection Launch Issues, Fixes Incoming
@Korgon the problem I have is that I already own these games on many formats, and i can get them running at a higher resolution and frame rate than what they have managed. Anyone else can do the same with a very basic PC or laptop. They haven't done enough work to justify the purchase.
Re: Konami Aware of Metal Gear Solid: Master Collection Launch Issues, Fixes Incoming
It's impressive they have managed to botch such a basic port.
Re: Marvel's Spider-Man 2 Is a PS5 Masterpiece, According to Super Smash Bros Maker
Not sure if I would call it that yet, I've lost my eyeballs quite a few times so far on the side quests from rolling them too much up to now.
When did GMO crops suddenly become a fantastic idea, because they really, absolutely 100% are not.
Re: Metal Gear Solid: Master Collection (PS5) - Three Classics in One Messy Bundle
I'm definitely probably going to pass this time, I bought them all on NES, PS1 and PS2 and PC when they came out, I imported the complete collection on PS3 Japan and I bought the remasters on PS3 and Vita and even had some of my covers signed by Hideo in Leipzig back in 2005.
Probably going to pass, maybe.
Ah who am I kidding.
Re: Skipping RoboCop: Rogue City on PS5? You're Going to Need a New Plan
@FuriousMachine The shooting is the most satisfying shooting in a game in years. It made me instantly preorder it.
Re: Skipping RoboCop: Rogue City on PS5? You're Going to Need a New Plan
Got it preordered on Steam, its £30 cheaper and I will get better graphics and frame rates to be fair.
Re: Naughty Dog Co-President Evan Wells Announces His Retirement
@StrawberryTurtle He did not write that game, he was named in it but wasn't the main writer, that was Bruce Straley. Can't you tell simply by looking at the quality of writing between 1 and 2??
They are light years apart.
Re: Street Fighter 6 Under Fire for Ridiculous Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles DLC Pricing
I have already finished te story mode and moved on to other games. Never get why people continue with fighting games once they have played through them, what are they expecting to change other than skins? You have seen all it has to offer, stop pouring money down the drain and move on to other games.
Re: Naughty Dog Co-President Evan Wells Announces His Retirement
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Re: Naughty Dog Co-President Evan Wells Announces His Retirement
Druckman has finally got what he wanted then, he seems to have managed to run all the old school talent out the business so he can empire build.
I wish them well but I'm definitely noping out of ND games in the future.
Re: Feature: Your Top 10 PS5, PS4 Games of 2023 So Far
FFXVI was my biggest disappointment this year so far, it just wasn't a FF game, graphics and fighting was great but it just didn't have what makes FF in it, it lacked a soul. And don't get me started on that ending.
Sorry but We Love Katamari has to take the top spot so far this year for me.
Re: Very Questionable Face Renders Are on the EA Sports FC Ultimate Edition Cover
What amazes me more about this is the amount of people still playing FIFA, I haven't bought it since Fifa 96 on the SNES, i could tell back then they were robbing people with yearly iterations and 28 years later here we are.
I'll just stick to sensible soccer and renaming the teams with a keyboard.
Re: Random: There's a Weird The Last of Us Knockoff on Nintendo Switch Now
It's story was about time travel and zombies and after reading it had far less plot holes than TLOU 2. For 99p, I would be all over that thing it looks funny as hell.
Re: Persona 3 Reload Gets English Gameplay Reveal in Xbox-Flavoured Trailer
FES and portable features will be added to a Royal version. Atlus has stung me too many times over the years, I will be waiting a while before buying this one.
Re: Like a Dragon Fandom Divided After Hearing Kiryu's New English Voice
People play Yakuza games with English voices?? Are you nuts?!?
Re: Astro's Playroom Dev Team Asobi in the Spotlight in Studio Profile Video
Stoll amazes me we stilll haven't got a version of Astrobot for PSVR 2. That game was one of the main reasons that kept me interested in VR, 1sp person stuff doesn't interest me that much.
Re: YouTuber Yong Yea Is the New English Voice of Kazuma Kiryu
@Dusk_Actual haven't done that since Mark Hamill and Michael Madsen were doing voices for it.
Re: YouTuber Yong Yea Is the New English Voice of Kazuma Kiryu
An American Korean guy who also speaks Spanish doing an English voice for a Japanese character is hilarious to me.
Re: GTA Inspired Isometric Police Game The Precinct Arrests PS5
I always fall in love with the look of these games, then they let us down with bad controls, I really hope they nail it.
Re: Persona 3 Reload Won't Include FES or Portable Content, Female Protagonist Included
I have FES in my phone and it runs perfectly with upscaled graphics, I don't see the point in downgrading ror shinier grqphics.
Re: There's New Marvel's Spider-Man 2 PS5 Footage in Across the Spider-Verse
Was reading that Imsomniac were apologising for the last one being "Cop Friendly" and they have rectified it this time around. We really do live in an alternate reality now don't we?
Re: We Love Katamari REROLL+ Royal Reverie (PS5) - A Great Version of the Series' Highlight
Amazing, wasn't even aware this was coming out, just bought it on the store.
I still have my PS2 copies of both but will be nice to play on a big screen for a change!
Re: Square Enix Allegedly 'Slightly Panicking' About Final Fantasy 16 PS5 Pre-Orders
Did I just read an article where a journalist just quoted another journalist?
I'm not sure if that actually qualifies as news...
Re: Feature: PSVR2 Three Months Later - The Good, The Bad, and The Worrying
I got mine on launch and love that I no longer get motion sickness like I did with PSVR1 and some of the games are superb (Demio is a definite standout for me) bit but cannot believe we never got an Astro Bot game at launch, I genuinely thought that was a Mario beater and the future of platform games and we got nothing on it. It hasn't had a true killer app.
Re: Street Fighter 6 Guide: Your Ultimate Resource
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