This weekend, I'm cashing the Sony welfare check. Already started ABZU, Subnautica, and the Witness last night, and thought they all were good enough to keep playing, so play them I will.
This is one I want to like, but after the trailer last night, which still looked pre-alpha, by the way, some of my hopes have been cooled off. I'll still follow it, but just the fact that they thought releasing this trailer would generate more interest makes me question their judgement as a whole.
When they first teased this in the show, I thought it was going to be a whole new game! This is great, don't get me wrong, but how cool would a new game for a new generation have been?
Maybe, but this is a place to express your opinions, and in my opinion, this game and games like it exist not because a development house had a great idea for a game and were passionately creating it, but because a publisher wanted a steady cash stream without too much initial investment. Whether I'm right or wrong, I AM entitled to my opinion. And you, too, are well within your rights to disagree with me. Usually, it's what ends up keeping these threads alive.
Nobody else wants to say it? OK, I will. This is a disturbing direction for Sony to head in my opinion. The latest state of play tried to push this. These mindless garbage games are just a one-way cashflow river, without any real effort on the part of developers to make a story or have any nuance in what they do. Yet another Destruction All-Stars, and something I have absolutely no interest in.
This will be the first game out that truly makes me lament the fact that I've been unable to locate a PS5 yet. However, by the time I can walk into Wallmart and buy a ps5 over the counter, I'm quite sure this game will be much less than 70.
I was more picturing an ideal dream world utopia, I guess. More along the lines of giving a million monkeys a paintbrush in the hopes that one of them paints the Mona Lisa.
Never even considered the potential 'eggplant problem', lol. I think if you give enough people access to the creation tools at no cost, maybe you interest some people in game development careers, etc., and bring some more interesting things to the play side of it.
They'd probably have to monitor what gets released online, however, you're right. That might mean having to pay a few people, so it's probably just a pipe dream.
They HAVE to let you still download games you've already bought, right? If not, what's the difference between that and breaking into your home and stealing your games outright?
Good. Congratulations to her. I think it's good for gaming as a whole that companies like Media Molecule exist. Dreams should come as pre-loaded software on new PS5's. Might encourage some user creativity.
The textures in this game are just bad. Low res and lazy in many places. 4K, 8k, doesn't matter. The game's stuck with what it started with, it looks like. Garbage in, garbage out. Talking only about textures, not the game itself.
I'd really love it if Valve were to release a NON PSVR version for PS4 or 5. Love the whole Half-Life experience, ever since the first one came out at the same time as Sin on PC. It seems like a shame that such an amazing franchise has left so many rabid fans hanging for as long as they have.
Whilst waiting for the next Cyberpatch, I've been going through my backlog trying to find something that draws me in, so a little bit of a lot of things, lately. Just finished downloading Remnant: From the Ashes as a freebie from plus. Started it up, went through the tutorial, and died very shortly after that, but I've got to say I like the controls and the camera, and the story is good enough so far, so I'll probably strap on my combat boots and grind ahead with this.
I have no doubt that you will get a better game for waiting. What they released in December was PC first, PS4 second, and PS5 last. The framerate and visuals might be better on the 5, but the 4 crashes far less.
They spent 7 years with the 4 supposedly the target machine, long before the 5 specs were announced or even known. For anyone who can't handle bugs or crashes, i'd say for sure to wait for the PS5 version. Eventually, it'll be a much more enjoyable and better looking/performing version of the game.
Thanks for that. It just psychologically amazes me that people who claim not to like the game insist on involving themselves every chance they get to take a cheap shot at it.
I think most who complain wanted a GTA like game, and this just isn't it. It's a game that rewards you more when you're not in a hurry and are willing to explore by foot.
In some ways, I'd compare it to a Bethesda game. I'm a bit of a glutton for punishment, because I love what Bethesda does. I prefer a game with multiple complex systems running in sync with each other, and I don't think anyone involves as much seamless complexity in their games as Bethesda does.
This means that on release, they're always buggy. I don't even know how many employees/QA testers you'd need to test every possible iteration and possible outcome through all the possible character builds, level you are when you hit what dungeon, every piece of possible gear, every single possible enchantment level, etc.
I don't think it's even possible for a game that embraces so many styles of play to release bug free. Skyrim now, on PS4 with the deluxe edition, is one of the smoothest and most enjoyable role-playing experiences in all of gaming, imo. I fully understand that the PS3 release version was a completely different story.
I think Cyberpunk, to a lesser degree, shares some of these problems. Add in to that the sheer size and complexity of Night City, and it's amazing it runs on PS4 at all. With new technology available to them while they were 'finishing' the game, I think maybe their scope got a little out of hand for what last gen consoles could handle. But I feel the love for the craft they have when I play it. I appreciate all the little things that work well that seem to go completely unappreciated by the GTA crowd.
For me, it's more like Open World Deus-Ex on steroids. I don't mind the bugs as much as most seem to. I like the world the game presents for it's ability to let me lose myself inside of it for long stretches of time. It's very much the kind of game I love to play.
Intellectually, I have to wonder how many points some of you still reward yourselves with for bashing this game. It's a great game. If you don't have the patience or curiosity to find that out for yourself, that's on you. It's old, and it's tired.
Upon rereading Porco's post, I see that I must have been sleep reading. He said no PHYSICAL release, and I took it to mean no release whatsoever in the States. My bad.
@Playstation I'm with you. I keep holding out on PSNow thinking and hoping they'll combine it with Plus. It seems like that would be the best way to compete against Microsoft, and I can't understand why they haven't done it yet. Since this offer is for a year, it doesn't sound like they have any combo-plans in the works, which surprises me. I wouldn't mind paying a little more and letting them keep their discounts if they would combine it all in one inclusive package.
Subnautica is the one I voted for, but also have interest in ABZU and Moss. The others just don't do much for me or require a system I can't buy yet. HZD I've already played to death.
So will it even be translated into English? These were great games, but I think I've got to see a lot more effort from them before I pick up a modern copy.
Already my favorite game of the last two years. Any patches are good news, of course. All of them up to this point have improved gameplay and framerate, and there's still a ways to go, but even releasing unfinished and buggy, I still feel this game is a masterpiece and the best representation of a huge futuristic city ever brought to video games.
I was looking forward to this anyway, but now that censorship has reared it's ugly head, this has become a mandatory buy. A ratings system should be all the censorship necessary for a free thinking society. Otherwise, it's a mild form of burning witches and staking vampires.
What a fine looking trailer for an Indy FPS. This looked really great, both enemies and level design. Exactly the kind of gameplay I love. And due out June 1? Righteous!
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Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 369
This weekend, I'm cashing the Sony welfare check. Already started ABZU, Subnautica, and the Witness last night, and thought they all were good enough to keep playing, so play them I will.
Good gaming.
Re: Arctic Awakening Looks Like Episodic Firewatch, But in the Cold
I liked the way this one looked, but I'm really turned off by any game that chooses an episodic approach. The whole game in one package, please.
Re: PS5, PS4 Horror Shooter Quantum Error Returns with 4 Minute Gameplay Trailer
This is one I want to like, but after the trailer last night, which still looked pre-alpha, by the way, some of my hopes have been cooled off. I'll still follow it, but just the fact that they thought releasing this trailer would generate more interest makes me question their judgement as a whole.
Re: Stellar Strategy Title Shadow Tactics: Blades of the Shogun Gets Standalone Expansion
When they first teased this in the show, I thought it was going to be a whole new game! This is great, don't get me wrong, but how cool would a new game for a new generation have been?
Re: Outriders Will Brand Cheaters with an In-Game Watermark
What a great idea! Live in infamy with your watermark of shame! Associate forever with only others of your kind! It's perfect!
How low do you have to be to cheat in online games? Hope they enjoy each others company.
Re: Here's Your First Look at The Lord of the Rings: Gollum Gameplay
@BusyOlf Yes, but this clip was shown an hour ago as part of the Future Games Show live stream.
Re: Here's Your First Look at The Lord of the Rings: Gollum Gameplay
As much as I love Middle Earth, this game has still shown me nothing to get excited about.
Re: Hotel Life: A Resort Simulator Plots the Perfect PS5, PS4 Getaway from 26th August
A job simulator. Hmmm.
Re: Back 4 Blood Delays Zombie Killing Action to October
Back 4 Months
Re: Why You Should Download These Free Play At Home Games
Um...because they're free?
Re: Knockout City Explains Its Dodge-Brawl Gameplay in New Trailer
@AFCC
Maybe, but this is a place to express your opinions, and in my opinion, this game and games like it exist not because a development house had a great idea for a game and were passionately creating it, but because a publisher wanted a steady cash stream without too much initial investment. Whether I'm right or wrong, I AM entitled to my opinion. And you, too, are well within your rights to disagree with me. Usually, it's what ends up keeping these threads alive.
Re: Knockout City Explains Its Dodge-Brawl Gameplay in New Trailer
@Voltan
You're right, it's EA. It's just that in the last State of Play, Sony spent a lot of time on this one, more than I felt it warrented.
Re: Knockout City Explains Its Dodge-Brawl Gameplay in New Trailer
Nobody else wants to say it? OK, I will. This is a disturbing direction for Sony to head in my opinion. The latest state of play tried to push this. These mindless garbage games are just a one-way cashflow river, without any real effort on the part of developers to make a story or have any nuance in what they do. Yet another Destruction All-Stars, and something I have absolutely no interest in.
Re: Metacritic Ranks SEGA as the Best Publisher of 2020, Sony in Top 5
My latest issue of GameInformer gave it to Sony.
Re: Returnal Goes Gold Ahead of Late April PS5 Release
This will be the first game out that truly makes me lament the fact that I've been unable to locate a PS5 yet. However, by the time I can walk into Wallmart and buy a ps5 over the counter, I'm quite sure this game will be much less than 70.
Re: PS4 Owners Are Worried Their Games Won't Work if a Clock Battery Fails
Eventually, a huge astroid WILL hit the earth.
Re: Talking Point: What Free April 2021 PS Plus Games Do You Want?
Fell Seal and Othercide
Re: Here's When You Can Download Nine Free PS4 Games
This is cool, thanks Sony! While waiting to find a 5, think I'll play me some Subnautica.
Re: Media Molecule's Siobhan Reddy to Receive BAFTA Fellowship Award
@Amnesiac
Re: PS3, PS Vita, and PSP Online Stores to Close This Summer, Says New Report
@ApostateMage LOL!
I'm with you in spirit, even if I don't show up irl. You go, man!
Re: PS3, PS Vita, and PSP Online Stores to Close This Summer, Says New Report
@IonMagus
Don't people get pissed at that? Any lawsuits? Or is Sony/Nintendo truly covered and unassailable due to some small print somewhere? That sucks, man.
Re: Media Molecule's Siobhan Reddy to Receive BAFTA Fellowship Award
@Amnesiac
I was more picturing an ideal dream world utopia, I guess. More along the lines of giving a million monkeys a paintbrush in the hopes that one of them paints the Mona Lisa.
Never even considered the potential 'eggplant problem', lol. I think if you give enough people access to the creation tools at no cost, maybe you interest some people in game development careers, etc., and bring some more interesting things to the play side of it.
They'd probably have to monitor what gets released online, however, you're right. That might mean having to pay a few people, so it's probably just a pipe dream.
Re: PS3, PS Vita, and PSP Online Stores to Close This Summer, Says New Report
They HAVE to let you still download games you've already bought, right? If not, what's the difference between that and breaking into your home and stealing your games outright?
Re: Media Molecule's Siobhan Reddy to Receive BAFTA Fellowship Award
Good. Congratulations to her. I think it's good for gaming as a whole that companies like Media Molecule exist. Dreams should come as pre-loaded software on new PS5's. Might encourage some user creativity.
Re: The Last of Us TV Show Will Cover the Entire First Game, But Will Deviate in Places
Not looking forward to this. For the same reason I never liked the movie Titanic. Feel like I already know how it ends.
Tbh, I'd rather watch an hour of crouching in a forest with birds chirping, clickers clicking, and a waterfall in the background.
Re: Extended Final Fantasy VII Remake Intergrade Trailer Breaks Down PS5 Enhancements
The textures in this game are just bad. Low res and lazy in many places. 4K, 8k, doesn't matter. The game's stuck with what it started with, it looks like. Garbage in, garbage out. Talking only about textures, not the game itself.
Re: Instead of a New Tomb Raider Game, Here's a Cookbook
In every tomb I've ever raided, I've never found anything I'd want to eat, or even put in my mouth. Maybe it's the seasonings.
Re: Soapbox: Sony Needs to Bang Down Valve's Door to Get Half-Life: Alyx on PS5's PSVR
I'd really love it if Valve were to release a NON PSVR version for PS4 or 5. Love the whole Half-Life experience, ever since the first one came out at the same time as Sin on PC. It seems like a shame that such an amazing franchise has left so many rabid fans hanging for as long as they have.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 368
Whilst waiting for the next Cyberpatch, I've been going through my backlog trying to find something that draws me in, so a little bit of a lot of things, lately. Just finished downloading Remnant: From the Ashes as a freebie from plus. Started it up, went through the tutorial, and died very shortly after that, but I've got to say I like the controls and the camera, and the story is good enough so far, so I'll probably strap on my combat boots and grind ahead with this.
Happy gaming to all, and to all a good night.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 368
@Jimmer-jammer
Happy to hear it! Any questions, I've got answers!
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 368
@Hootnoodle Congrats!
Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Details First Fixes Coming With Patch 1.2, Including Overhauled Police System
@TheRedComet
I have no doubt that you will get a better game for waiting. What they released in December was PC first, PS4 second, and PS5 last. The framerate and visuals might be better on the 5, but the 4 crashes far less.
They spent 7 years with the 4 supposedly the target machine, long before the 5 specs were announced or even known. For anyone who can't handle bugs or crashes, i'd say for sure to wait for the PS5 version. Eventually, it'll be a much more enjoyable and better looking/performing version of the game.
Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Details First Fixes Coming With Patch 1.2, Including Overhauled Police System
@ScepticDK
Thanks for that. It just psychologically amazes me that people who claim not to like the game insist on involving themselves every chance they get to take a cheap shot at it.
I think most who complain wanted a GTA like game, and this just isn't it. It's a game that rewards you more when you're not in a hurry and are willing to explore by foot.
In some ways, I'd compare it to a Bethesda game. I'm a bit of a glutton for punishment, because I love what Bethesda does. I prefer a game with multiple complex systems running in sync with each other, and I don't think anyone involves as much seamless complexity in their games as Bethesda does.
This means that on release, they're always buggy. I don't even know how many employees/QA testers you'd need to test every possible iteration and possible outcome through all the possible character builds, level you are when you hit what dungeon, every piece of possible gear, every single possible enchantment level, etc.
I don't think it's even possible for a game that embraces so many styles of play to release bug free. Skyrim now, on PS4 with the deluxe edition, is one of the smoothest and most enjoyable role-playing experiences in all of gaming, imo. I fully understand that the PS3 release version was a completely different story.
I think Cyberpunk, to a lesser degree, shares some of these problems. Add in to that the sheer size and complexity of Night City, and it's amazing it runs on PS4 at all. With new technology available to them while they were 'finishing' the game, I think maybe their scope got a little out of hand for what last gen consoles could handle. But I feel the love for the craft they have when I play it. I appreciate all the little things that work well that seem to go completely unappreciated by the GTA crowd.
For me, it's more like Open World Deus-Ex on steroids. I don't mind the bugs as much as most seem to. I like the world the game presents for it's ability to let me lose myself inside of it for long stretches of time. It's very much the kind of game I love to play.
Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Details First Fixes Coming With Patch 1.2, Including Overhauled Police System
@Medic_Alert Sure it could.
Argue away.
Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Details First Fixes Coming With Patch 1.2, Including Overhauled Police System
Intellectually, I have to wonder how many points some of you still reward yourselves with for bashing this game. It's a great game. If you don't have the patience or curiosity to find that out for yourself, that's on you. It's old, and it's tired.
Re: Ninja Gaiden: Master Collection Gets Digital Deluxe Edition, Pre-Order Bonuses
@Shigurui
Upon rereading Porco's post, I see that I must have been sleep reading. He said no PHYSICAL release, and I took it to mean no release whatsoever in the States. My bad.
Re: SMT III: Nocturne HD Remaster Dated for 25th May on PS4
@Ralizah Sure thing! What thread?
Re: Deal: New PS Now Subscribers Get Free PS Store Credit
@ankehuber My problem exactly.
Re: Deal: New PS Now Subscribers Get Free PS Store Credit
@Playstation I'm with you. I keep holding out on PSNow thinking and hoping they'll combine it with Plus. It seems like that would be the best way to compete against Microsoft, and I can't understand why they haven't done it yet. Since this offer is for a year, it doesn't sound like they have any combo-plans in the works, which surprises me. I wouldn't mind paying a little more and letting them keep their discounts if they would combine it all in one inclusive package.
Re: SMT III: Nocturne HD Remaster Dated for 25th May on PS4
@TheFrenchiestFry And the FrenchiestFry. Why did I forget the FrenchiestFry? Inexcusable.
Re: SMT III: Nocturne HD Remaster Dated for 25th May on PS4
@Ralizah
Thanks to you, NEStalgia, and clvr this is one I'm super looking forward to. Thanks again!
Re: Poll: What Free PS4 Games Are You Most Excited to Play?
Subnautica is the one I voted for, but also have interest in ABZU and Moss. The others just don't do much for me or require a system I can't buy yet. HZD I've already played to death.
Re: Ninja Gaiden: Master Collection Gets Digital Deluxe Edition, Pre-Order Bonuses
@Porco
So will it even be translated into English? These were great games, but I think I've got to see a lot more effort from them before I pick up a modern copy.
Re: Here's Disco Elysium Running on PS5
Can't wait to sink a few months into this.
Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Details First Fixes Coming With Patch 1.2, Including Overhauled Police System
Already my favorite game of the last two years. Any patches are good news, of course. All of them up to this point have improved gameplay and framerate, and there's still a ways to go, but even releasing unfinished and buggy, I still feel this game is a masterpiece and the best representation of a huge futuristic city ever brought to video games.
Re: Disco Elysium: The Final Cut Refused Australian Classification
I was looking forward to this anyway, but now that censorship has reared it's ugly head, this has become a mandatory buy. A ratings system should be all the censorship necessary for a free thinking society. Otherwise, it's a mild form of burning witches and staking vampires.
Re: Deal: New PS Plus Subscribers Can Get Free PS Store Credit Now
I've lost $100 this week alone on things going free or super cheap that I paid full price for recently. Sony loves me.
Re: Bombastic and Bloody FPS Necromunda: Hired Gun Blasts PS5, PS4 in June
So nice, I watched it twice.
Re: Bombastic and Bloody FPS Necromunda: Hired Gun Blasts PS5, PS4 in June
What a fine looking trailer for an Indy FPS. This looked really great, both enemies and level design. Exactly the kind of gameplay I love. And due out June 1? Righteous!
Re: Shin Megami Tensei III: Nocturne HD Remaster Rated in US, Western Release Date Could Be Incoming
@clvr Thanks, I appreciate it. I feel like it's been going nowhere for a while now, so maybe this is just the universe saying time to move on. Cheers!