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"Free with full price purchase"

Back in my day we called that the multiplayer part of the game you just bought.

@LiterallyDoNotCare It's just RE7.2 basically, sadly. I mean RE7 was good, but expected more without the limitations.

Disappointed that the fundamental game design is compromised to factor in the limitations of last gen consoles.

Lmao I love it, never change Push Square. a 2% lead by an Xbox console would be "marginal" but a 2% lead by a Playstation console would be "massive".

@Col_McCafferty Hard to say roughly €30 million revenue for quick port of an existing game is a waste. But I don't come to push square for logic.

@IonMagus 30% is only for the first $10 million, then it's 20%

Extra hot take: Sony should put all their games on PC so they're not limited by hardware, like PS4 and PS5 do to their games.

@nessisonett Don't waste your time with the fanboys and their arguments. Their logic is "it only made Sony an additional (approx) $30million in 6 months to port an existing game to PC, FAILED!!!!"

Started it tonight on PC. Locked 1440p 120fps ultimate quality (although I turned motion blur off, you can keep that to consoles), so far I'm not impressed by the game itself overall. I'll give it another few hours but if it doesn't improve greatly, I'll likely drop it.

@RBMango And if you've ever been involved in this kind of marketing, these things go through multiple levels of checks over and over so I find it very hard to believe all these were legit accidents.

P5R PC baby. I just finished it a few weeks ago, but I'll do it again like the mad lad I am.

Also P3FES

Welcome to one of the many many advantages of PC.

@nessisonett @Tharsman Like I pointed out yesterday, things like this are the reason "PLAYSTATION EXCLUSIVE" memes exist

@get2sammyb I also wonder if it's like The Outer Worlds or Deathloop or Ghostwire. These contracrs are all inked BEFORE the acquisition is complete so are honoured separately already.

Also, I may be misremembering but isn't the MS/Bethesda deal the 2nd half of 2021? I can't remember for sure.

Edit: Yeah directly from Microsoft's press announcement. Microsoft fiscal year ends September 30th 2021

The transaction is subject to customary closing conditions and completion of regulatory review. Microsoft expects the acquisition to close in the second half of fiscal year 2021 and to have minimal impact to non-GAAP operating income in fiscal years 2021 and 2022. Non-GAAP excludes the expected impact of purchase accounting adjustments, as well as integration and transaction-related expenses.

It'll definitely be a multiplat (Xbox and PC) but would not surprise me if it went to PS5 after a year. But at the same time, I actually don't believe Microsoft would have the guts to keep it off PS5.

70% chance PC/Xbox/PS5 same day
30% chance PC/Xbox then PS5 down the line

Imo

@Igna You might to get used to it. Almost all the games advertised as "4k" for new consoles are all dynamic res mostly hovering around the 1440p mark, give or take. For 60fps anyway.

@Gaming365247 I wasn't even referring to that, it was more that it is coming to PC on the same day as PS4/5, let alone possibly Xbox down the line.

This is why I hate why people dilute the "exclusive" meaning. Anything to try claim a win. I don't even count timed exclusives like FF7R. It's not like I'd never have been able to play it if I didn't get it on PS4.

@Rob_230 PC same time, Xbox 2 years later

@Gaming365247 It's a joke when Sony do it, a joke when Microsoft do it and a joke when Nintendo do it.

Unless it comes bundled with the PC complete edition, pass. Learned my lesson the hard way with FF7R on PS4 Pro.

@AK4tywill No. "Exclusive" has been stretched and played with fast and loose for years now, diluting more and more every time. On more than 1? Multiplatform. Exactly why there is the saying "Xbox has no games" because there is nothing you NEED to buy an Xbox for when you can get it elsewhere. "Console exclusive" "console launch exclusive" "timed exclusive", it's all a joke.

Edit: As illustrated by this thread and the original thread, now you see why people meme on the whole "GOTY 10/10 BECAUSE PLAYSTATION EXCLUSIVE!11!ELEVENTYONE!!1"

@NEStalgia Let that be a lesson to Sony. It turned me off a sale from the demo and the PS2 looking graphics!

@kyleforrester87 Your memory has failed you. Go watch the "gameplay" trailer Sony showed of the beach intro (including no black screen blink transition to actual gameplay because the entire thing was CG rendered) then go play the demo or game itself. There is a brief black screen flash where it swaps to in game graphics which are considerably worse. The internet tore it to shreds because of the sheer gulf in quality. Pure CG to barely looking like an early PS3 game. It became one of Sony's legendary most egregious bullshots of the PS3 era.

That and the Uncharted 2 debacle.

@NEStalgia and people wonder why I say Sony are bad for at everything except games. I never forget.

I don't think Killzone ever recovered after the KZ2 bait and switch bullshot trailer.

@Culjoseth This is but a small list of only 1st party games. Plenty of others outside Sony's copy and paste template.

@Kienda And it is still factually available on multiple platforms. On PC. That's where I plan on playing it anyway.

@Kienda No, your logic is just flawed and you're speaking from feelings other than facts. Speaking facts is not trolling just because it hurts your feelings. Which is why as I and Sony have stated, HZD is a multiplatform non-exclusive game.

But resort to ad hominem because you haver no argument.

@Col_McCafferty If posting facts is trolling, I can't help you. PushSquare agree, Sony themselves agree. I can't help you if it hurts your ego tied to plastic.

@Kienda Sony themselves have clearly said it's not a 1st party exclusive game because it's natively on multiple platforms. Facts don't care about your feelings.

@Culjoseth Because there are a small few exclusive games (actual exclusives, unlike Horizon) that I enjoy. Was that not clear in my post? I literally said I played a few games. Do you need to play ALL of them or only be a hardcore fanboy to use a PS site?

@Kienda That's why I included PS4 copy. Because the digital copy on PS5 (and PSnow) are using the PS4 copy.

P5/P5R were my PS4 game(s) of the gen

@carlos82 Well if you want to take a remake and remaster off the list, I've only played maybe 3 other games on thr list that are native PS4 games. I can't stand many Sony 1st party series games.

@Kienda Sony themselves are agreeing that "console exclusive" isn't a thing. Do you need to buy a PS4/PS4 copy (since back compat) to play it? No? Not exclusive then.

Glad to see Sony putting this to rest and hoping the inconsistent and frequently inaccurate reporting of "exclusives" by PushSquare staff will be applied going forward.

@LiamCroft I assume this level of finally admitting what is "exclusive" will be carried on in future? Good to see logic prevailing.

On topic, voted for TLOU remastered, if that wasn't in there it'd be Shadow Of The Colossus.

@Jimmer-jammer I will concede that thanks to the run up and launch of new consoles and fake gaming news, the incompetent shill media and fanboy frenzy that has accompanied them I've lost patience for many console people/places, or at least the ignorant and the fanboys. Which is typically why my points come across as blunt and harsh. @NEStalgia broke it down better so I thank him for that.

I am glad that someone actually had a brain and thought "hey maybe making Tencent the Disney of PC gaming tech is a bad thing" instead of the usual "A WIN FOR SONY WOOOOOO". It's not the kind of thing I expect from console sites.

@NEStalgia You're on the wrong website for overarching impactful things like that. You need to hit up PC websites for worry about the future of gaming. This is console town, where all that matters is what <hardware maker's marketing division> tell you.

@wiiware You can download it on PC with an EGS dev account

@wiiware Only 1 of those games is a PS4 exclusive though.

@1_W1NG3D_4NG3L Correct them every time. Interrupt them to correct them instantly every time. They eventually learn.

50 comments deep and not a single person has said anything about the issue with FF7R? Where is Midgard in FF7R? The city, that the entire game over dozens of hours that it takes place in, is named MIDGAR.

You need a proofreader?

Legend Of Dragoon remake by Bluepoint Games.

Make it happen.

Inferior input methods like this need gimmicks to distract you from them being inferior.

Why would anyone want anything interfering and impeding your direct inputs.

Oh right, falling for marketing and gimmicks. Someone please cite immersion, you'll disappoint me if you don't.

19/30 got most of the 1st party stuff wrong since almost none of Sony 1st party appeals to me. Got a kick out of the HZD upset manbaby question though.

@Gaming365247 Mainly because neither answer of the 2 people know about is correct. Yet. Bids and deals are not finalised.

@AdamNovice Well then he will have to deal with the limitations of consoles or miss out.

@nessisonett The inevitable PC port will fix that. Just like P4G was improved so much by it, and that was a PS2/Vita game!

On topic, P5R was the joint best game I played released this year. It gets joint because it's "only" an enhanced version of my 2017 GOTY and the other game it tied with is the best version of an enhanced game I'd already played. PC version of P4G. That's why they both got a joint top spot.

If you remove straight re-releases (P4G PC) then P5R is the best "new" game.

I got a refund weeks ago when they delayed the "finished" PC version because of consoles.

Dodged a bullet there.

@NEStalgia "Console exclusive" is also misused to exploit console fanboys and marketing marks.

TLOU2 is a console exclusive. Halo 5 is a console exclusive. Horizon Zero Dawn is not. Death Stranding is not. Cyberpunk certainly is not.

PC + 1 console? Not console exclusive.

CDPR did this, not Sony. No kudos for Sony and their garbage policies. Never forget NMS and Fallout 76.

@Deadlyblack I always wonder where this claim comes from. It was announced for PC before the Sony publishing deal was announced. It was announced for PC before it was even shown or had a name.

When founding the studio it was announced so that he could make a PS4/PC game.

Sammy couldn't answer his claim (because there isn't anything to prove it that I'm aware of) when I called him out on it, can you?

@get2sammyb Did Sony fund it? It was announced for PC before the Sony publishing announcement.

The last thing I want is something interfering with my input with the game.