@SoulChimera I'm assuming they were referencing the Xbox One X, from the marketing image. The only thing I could think of, is that if it's all accurate and legit, that maybe because the PS5 is slightly less powerful than Xbox Series X, they need to run at maybe 1800p or something to keep the same graphical settings. Xbox One X, 4k but 22fps with lower than lowest settings. Series X, high settings.
@ooSNYPZoo Gamestop Ireland has a history of creating them early and once all editions of them become available, they're automatically transferred over in the order they were placed in.
and Ubisoft Support replied (verbatim) "Hey there! As stated on the banner, Far Cry 6 is 4k Ultra HD on Xbox One and Xbox Series X only. Apologies for any inconvenience caused."
Anyone else read the small print at the bottom of the marketing materials? It shows all logos, including PS4 and PS5 but says "plays in 4k Ultra HD on Xbox One X and Xbox Series X only".
@Wavey84 You don't want to build one just yet. While there are already several GPUs more powerful than both next gen consoles, the new GPU lines from both card makers are about to launch within a few months. And if leaked specs are anything to go by, they are going to be MONSTERS.
There was a great comment recently from a world class musician who uses a custom, hand made guitar from extremely rare materials and how it is half the price of this.
This is just insulting rip off tier.
Edit: Not half price, but close. It was weeks ago after all.
"Enticing PC players to buy a PS5 for the sequel" is a short sighted argument for multiple reasons.
Buying a console for a handful of exclusives over the course of a generation (like I do) iis nowhere near as impactful as everything thinks.
If you're making a console purchase (assuming it's at launch or close to launch) the profit margin for Sony is razor thin, if not a loss. They will only be buying one game every year or 2, whenever an exclusive they like comes out. And not everyone loves every Sony exclusive. They will continue to play almost every game on PC. They will not be buying PS Plus subs, large amounts of games, DLC on every game. Sony will get a single licensing fee from a game purchase every year or 2.
PC gamers will continue to play the vast majority of the games they want to play on PC, they aren't going to completely instantly change their platform of choice to play inferior versions of the majority of their games (not meant as an insult) just because there is 1 game exclusive to a platform every year or 3.
I hope this gives insight into the thought process, as myself and many other PC gamers feel this way.
@edheym78 Right, AMD's new Navi cards will support hardware based raytracing, but Cyberpunk (relevant example) uses the Nvidia developed RTX designed for their cards. Is there an agreement to block out AMD (like both companies have used to block the other's tech out in the past, although AMD doesn't really have any) or will the game just not be able to support it because of engine/hardware and/or contractual reasons.
AMD have sponsored games to lock out superior Nvidia tech, and anything with Gameworks locks out AMD tech. Will this spill over I wonder.
There's an important thing no one has mentioned with next gen, and this is a perfect time to bring it up.
Cyberpunk 2077 (on PC at least) uses the Nvidia version of raytracing, RTX, which is only (properly) available to their cards with the dedicated hardware for it. It doesn't support in engine standard raytracing/DXR. How is it going to translate, if at all, when the RTX supported games come to consoles as they're both AMD based units.
It's not a case of just converting it over, it's an entirely different, unique hardware based thing from the ground up.
Not to mention potential financial and/or exclusivity deals.
@Tacktful They won't slow down the loading times just so you can see hints. We've had a meme on PC for nearly 10 years now "game loads so fast from the SSD, I can't read the loading screen hints". Artificially adding delay would defeat the purpose.
@rjejr You can't compare just the price of the optical drive component for PS5 to an entire unit that is dedicated only to a 4k bluray player. It's not even close to the same thing.
@Orpheus79V Wrong. Entirely different situation. Sony were going after people who criticised the game based on official info that Sony published (trailers, interviews, etc) not the leaks/quality of the game. Which is abuse of the system.
@AdamNovice I'm not talking about those ones. That isn't abuse of the system. What IS abuse of the system was Sony taking down videos that mentioned NOTHING of the spoilers or using anything copyrighted by Sony/Naughty Dog. Including them claiming material created and copyrighted by other people. All because they didn't like what people were saying.
If the previous collection is anything to go by, I'll be picking this up on PC down the line. Glad to see a new entry though, hope it's like the collection,. gameplay and design wise.
I was very underwhelmed the 3D audio in both the recent stream and the separate test demo, and that is with 3 separate high end sets of headphones. Sure it's better than stereo, but only barely. I'm hoping once I get the console connected up to my real surround sound, it will be different.
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Re: Spider-Man Miles Morales Can Run at 4K, 60FPS on PS5 with Optional Performance Mode
Good, the fact that it was originally only announced for 30fps was an absolute joke.
Re: Far Cry 6 Officially Revealed for PS5, PS4
@SoulChimera I'm assuming they were referencing the Xbox One X, from the marketing image. The only thing I could think of, is that if it's all accurate and legit, that maybe because the PS5 is slightly less powerful than Xbox Series X, they need to run at maybe 1800p or something to keep the same graphical settings. Xbox One X, 4k but 22fps with lower than lowest settings. Series X, high settings.
We'll see how it goes, a really weird situation.
Re: Sony: We're Not Going to Open PS5 Pre-Orders at a Moment's Notice
@ooSNYPZoo Gamestop Ireland has a history of creating them early and once all editions of them become available, they're automatically transferred over in the order they were placed in.
Re: Far Cry 6 Officially Revealed for PS5, PS4
@SoulChimera Someone asked "What about PS4/PS5?"
and Ubisoft Support replied (verbatim) "Hey there! As stated on the banner, Far Cry 6 is 4k Ultra HD on Xbox One and Xbox Series X only. Apologies for any inconvenience caused."
Re: PS5 Pre-Order Pages Live on Amazon Australia
@Swe345 Glad I'm guaranteed mine as the 2nd in the company, you musta missed yours by the sounds of it.
Re: Guide: Best PS4 Exclusive Games
@carlos82 Not native. You're still playing the console version of it, which is why emulation has never been counted, even with the hacks and mods.
Re: Sony: We're Not Going to Open PS5 Pre-Orders at a Moment's Notice
I'm fine with it. I have the 2nd pre-order in the entire company for Gamestop Ireland (since they opened them in December) so I'll have mine.
Re: Far Cry 6 Officially Revealed for PS5, PS4
@SoulChimera There has been an updated statement from Ubisoft.
https://twitter.com/UbisoftSupport/status/1284100933459349505?s=19
Re: Guide: Best PS4 Exclusive Games
@carlos82 That's their incorrect choice. It's not exclusive if you don't need that platform to play it.
Re: Guide: Best PS4 Exclusive Games
@carlos82 HZD will not be exclusive come August 7th.
FF7R will not be exclusive in April.
Pretty simple how it works.
Re: Guide: Best PS4 Exclusive Games
You're gonna have to pull HZD off this list. And eventually FF7R.
Re: Ghost of Tsushima Is the Third Western Game to Earn a Famitsu Perfect Score
This carries about as much importance as a random youtuber saying GOAT.
Re: Death Stranding PC Is Like a Movie Compared to TV Drama PS4 Version, Says Kojima Productions
@mini_piekarnik Mind. Blown.
Re: PS5 Pre-Order Pages Live on Amazon Australia
@Swe345 Still taking preorders in store. Might not be official Sony ones, but have been doing it since last year. Enjoy!
Re: Death Stranding PC Is Like a Movie Compared to TV Drama PS4 Version, Says Kojima Productions
Breaking news, everything is better on PC. In other news, water still wet. More at 11. Also, the PC version is not published by Sony
Re: PS5 Pre-Order Pages Live on Amazon Australia
Gamestop Ireland have been taking preorders since last year on both consoles (Xbox and Playstation).
Re: Far Cry 6 Officially Revealed for PS5, PS4
@SoulChimera I could only find it in what is possibly a fanboy tweet, because nowhere posts the promo images anymore thanks to youtube videos.
https://twitter.com/mraftw/status/1282404256562192384?s=19
Re: Far Cry 6 Officially Revealed for PS5, PS4
Anyone else read the small print at the bottom of the marketing materials? It shows all logos, including PS4 and PS5 but says "plays in 4k Ultra HD on Xbox One X and Xbox Series X only".
Re: Watch Dogs Legion Hacks London This October on PS4
@snowstorm2574 Got a sauce on the enhancements for PS5?
Re: Watch Dogs Legion Hacks London This October on PS4
Strange that an Xbox Series X version was announced but not PS5. Probably a marketing deal.
Re: Here's Your First Look at Official PS5 Game Box Art
@Wavey84 You don't want to build one just yet. While there are already several GPUs more powerful than both next gen consoles, the new GPU lines from both card makers are about to launch within a few months. And if leaked specs are anything to go by, they are going to be MONSTERS.
Re: Here's Your First Look at Official PS5 Game Box Art
@Wavey84 Those are all concerns of the past. Windows and Steam has native controller support for everything in there now too.
Re: Here's Your First Look at Official PS5 Game Box Art
@Wavey84 PC is definitely the way to go
Re: Sony Pumps $250 Million into Fortnite Maker Epic Games
@Kidfried 1.5%
Re: Sony Pumps $250 Million into Fortnite Maker Epic Games
Oh no. No no no. /charlimit
Re: Here's Your First Look at Official PS5 Game Boxart
So the same thing but with a horrible white trim.
Re: Want Ellie's Guitar from The Last of Us 2 in Real Life? There's a Cost
@Matroska It just means it's a rip off cash grab of a rip off cash grab
Re: Want Ellie's Guitar from The Last of Us 2 in Real Life? There's a Cost
There was a great comment recently from a world class musician who uses a custom, hand made guitar from extremely rare materials and how it is half the price of this.
This is just insulting rip off tier.
Edit: Not half price, but close. It was weeks ago after all.
https://twitter.com/thinkimreal/status/1273726585229570049?s=19
Re: Talking Point: Is the PlayStation Store Starting to Rival Steam Sales?
No. /characterlimitations
Re: PlayStation Fans Are Worried Microsoft Could Buy Warner Bros' Gaming Division
Oh so it's ok to promote Sony buying all sorts of development studios but it's a bad thing when Microsoft do it.
Re: Horizon Zero Dawn Rockets Straight to the Top of Steam Best-Sellers List
@RealFeelings PS Now hardly counts because it's limited by what the console version offers + worse because of streaming.
Re: Horizon Zero Dawn Rockets Straight to the Top of Steam Best-Sellers List
"Enticing PC players to buy a PS5 for the sequel" is a short sighted argument for multiple reasons.
Buying a console for a handful of exclusives over the course of a generation (like I do) iis nowhere near as impactful as everything thinks.
If you're making a console purchase (assuming it's at launch or close to launch) the profit margin for Sony is razor thin, if not a loss. They will only be buying one game every year or 2, whenever an exclusive they like comes out. And not everyone loves every Sony exclusive. They will continue to play almost every game on PC. They will not be buying PS Plus subs, large amounts of games, DLC on every game. Sony will get a single licensing fee from a game purchase every year or 2.
PC gamers will continue to play the vast majority of the games they want to play on PC, they aren't going to completely instantly change their platform of choice to play inferior versions of the majority of their games (not meant as an insult) just because there is 1 game exclusive to a platform every year or 3.
I hope this gives insight into the thought process, as myself and many other PC gamers feel this way.
Re: DIRT 5 on PS5 Will Have an Option for 120 Frames-Per-Second
@gingerfrog Most TVs have been 60hz for 4 decades. Outside of the PAL50 standard. Which is why 30fps has been a technical failure for 4 decades.
Re: Unravel Horizon Zero Dawn's Mysteries from 7th August on PC
Former PS4 exclusive*
Re: Sony Considering Bid for Warframe, Brink Developers
@playstation1995 Now that'd be a bleak world.
Re: No Microtransactions in Crash Bandicoot 4, States Dev
Happened with CTR.
Happened with Gran Turismo Sport.
I won't hold my breath.
Re: Gallery: Cyberpunk 2077 Screenshots Are Stunning, But How Will It Look on PS4?
@edheym78 Right, AMD's new Navi cards will support hardware based raytracing, but Cyberpunk (relevant example) uses the Nvidia developed RTX designed for their cards. Is there an agreement to block out AMD (like both companies have used to block the other's tech out in the past, although AMD doesn't really have any) or will the game just not be able to support it because of engine/hardware and/or contractual reasons.
AMD have sponsored games to lock out superior Nvidia tech, and anything with Gameworks locks out AMD tech. Will this spill over I wonder.
Re: Gallery: Cyberpunk 2077 Screenshots Are Stunning, But How Will It Look on PS4?
There's an important thing no one has mentioned with next gen, and this is a perfect time to bring it up.
Cyberpunk 2077 (on PC at least) uses the Nvidia version of raytracing, RTX, which is only (properly) available to their cards with the dedicated hardware for it. It doesn't support in engine standard raytracing/DXR. How is it going to translate, if at all, when the RTX supported games come to consoles as they're both AMD based units.
It's not a case of just converting it over, it's an entirely different, unique hardware based thing from the ground up.
Not to mention potential financial and/or exclusivity deals.
Re: PS4 Games on PS5 - All Confirmed Upgrades
@Tacktful They won't slow down the loading times just so you can see hints. We've had a meme on PC for nearly 10 years now "game loads so fast from the SSD, I can't read the loading screen hints".
Artificially adding delay would defeat the purpose.
Re: Report: PS5's Price Could Be $50 Cheaper if You Go for the Digital Edition
@rjejr What the consumers see and what it actually is are 2 completely different things.
Re: Report: PS5's Price Could Be $50 Cheaper if You Go for the Digital Edition
@rjejr You can't compare just the price of the optical drive component for PS5 to an entire unit that is dedicated only to a 4k bluray player. It's not even close to the same thing.
Re: Report: PS5's Price Could Be $50 Cheaper if You Go for the Digital Edition
I expected them to be the same price, but the added "cost" if you will on the digital only console was by including a game code or PS+ sub.
Either way, physical version for me.
Re: Weirdness: Sony's Spider-Man PS5 Trailer Pulled from YouTube Due to Gameloft Copyright Claim
@Orpheus79V Wrong. Entirely different situation. Sony were going after people who criticised the game based on official info that Sony published (trailers, interviews, etc) not the leaks/quality of the game. Which is abuse of the system.
Re: Weirdness: Sony's Spider-Man PS5 Trailer Pulled from YouTube Due to Gameloft Copyright Claim
@AdamNovice I'm not talking about those ones. That isn't abuse of the system. What IS abuse of the system was Sony taking down videos that mentioned NOTHING of the spoilers or using anything copyrighted by Sony/Naughty Dog. Including them claiming material created and copyrighted by other people. All because they didn't like what people were saying.
Re: Weirdness: Sony's Spider-Man PS5 Trailer Pulled from YouTube Due to Gameloft Copyright Claim
This is kinda funny in a way. Karma for Sony's abuse of the system in the run up TLOU2
Re: Age Rating and Box Art Leak Crash Bandicoot 4: It's About Time
If the previous collection is anything to go by, I'll be picking this up on PC down the line. Glad to see a new entry though, hope it's like the collection,. gameplay and design wise.
Re: How Gran Turismo 7 Is Using PS5's Unique Features
I was very underwhelmed the 3D audio in both the recent stream and the separate test demo, and that is with 3 separate high end sets of headphones. Sure it's better than stereo, but only barely. I'm hoping once I get the console connected up to my real surround sound, it will be different.
Re: Sony Issues Official Shot of PS5 Console on Its Side
Horizontal for me. Not that it matters as this ugly machine will be hidden behind my monitor.
Re: Ratchet & Clank PS5 Surpasses 2016 Movie, Runs in Native 4K with Ray Tracing
@MadLustEnvy Stop damage controlling. They show gameplay with hitches, which currently needs to be fixed. Now about that frame rate......
Re: Poll: Did You Miss E3 2020 Last Week?
@themcnoisy You know they uploaded them in 4k as well right?
I'm ignoring the rest of your fanboy argument on purpose because it's covered in the previous post.
You can feel how you want about it, but "almost perfect" gave me a good laugh.