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@thefourfoldroot I'm just providing facts and numbers, I'm not interested in damage control.

@thefourfoldroot Cold hard numbers are facts, not sure why they upset you.

@thefourfoldroot Right, that's exactly what I said. Dynamic 4k, where if it drops a single horizonal line of resolution for a second, it isn't running at 4k/30/60. I'm not here to debate what games "should" do, it's what they can or can't do. And this cannot run at full 4k/30/60 100% of the time.

@Ggmate Here, scroll down, it's literally on their product page on the Sony website.

https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/marvels-spider-man-remastered/

@Ggmate Actually "And experience swinging through New York and combat as an experienced Spider-Man with an optional performance mode that takes advantage of Insomniac’s temporal injection for dynamic 4K/60fps*."

Taken directly from the Playstation Spiderman page.

So no, it can't.

In fact it can't even do 4k/30 in the higher quality mode.

" Experience the critically acclaimed hit with updated graphical assets and in stunning dynamic 4K/HDR*"

I'd hold off the "4k 60fps" if I were you based on what we're seeing from the more powerful console than PS5. Early results are.....yikes.

Stop buying more copies of GTA and stop spending money on GTA online. You're literally paying them NOT to make GTA6.

@R1spam That will actually be the "slightly reduced fat" version actually.

@wiiware Welcome to 2010, you're gonna love it.

@b1ackjack Yeah a 60fps mod for bloodborne has been out for a long time.

@thefourfoldroot Why would no one think that? Spiderman is 2 years old and getting a remaster. Is it because it released so close to the next generation?

Ghosts Of Tsushima launched in July with the PS5 coming in November.

The Last Of Us launched in June with the PS4 coming in November and that got a remaster the following year.

While I'd say there are indicators of both, given the differences of everything involved, I'd put my money on them eventually offering a PS5 remaster (paid with no free upgrade) as well as this PS4 enhanced BC patch. So far we have 1 example for PS4->PS5, and Spiderman's precedent isn't looking like a good thing.

@carlos82 It sounds like they're giving this a PS5 BC patch of sorts. Basically a PS4 patch that is "unlocked" for the PS5 power to push it forward.

@wiiware 30fps is not smooth, the word you're looking for is consistent.

@Gamer83 The only PS1 games that didn't work on PS2 (that I know of at least) are MGS Special Missions and GTA London, those only worked if you had the slim, top loading PS2. Anything that was an expansion disc basically.

I was expecting Driveclub to be blocked, even though it works single player with the disc on PS4 now.

A day later and it's finally been updated. Not sure what I was before, 12? 13? But I'm 222 now.

@BlueOcean I was just going off the prices listed in the article which said $230, where as the Xbox drive was $220

@Jaz007 They address this in the Mark Cerny PS5 deep dive from earlier in the year (I rewatched it earlier this week to brush up on the specifics).

He recommend a drive equal to their internal drive (5500mbps) and because of the custom controller having more priority lanes than standard drives, Cerny says you could put in a slightly faster one to compensate for any possible issues that might ever happen. Not that there would be issues if you used a 5500mbps drive, but it's "safety speak".

So the raw speed of 7000mbps can do almost the entire thing that Sony can do compressed. Not to mention you're at least exceeding the Sony drive by 27%.

Compression talk is all smoke and mirrors because it's not an industry standard.

@Jaz007 It's 27% faster than the PS5 drive.

@710King Write speeds don't matter in gaming.

@LiamCroft People do. Console players don't.

@zupertramp Yeah ignore Sammy's wording. The PS5 drive is a raw speed of 5500mbps, which is what everything is measured in.

@zupertramp The PS5 is 27% slower than this drive.

@nessisonett $10 more expensive than the Xbox (comparing 1tb to 1tb) but it's to be expected as a faster and newer drive.

@710King These exceed the PS5 drive speed by 27%

Just checked, mine hasn't changed?

@get2sammyb Whoosh at missing the point. Fighting games are the 2nd easiet games to render next to driving games.

Dynamic 4k in a fighting game?

@lacerz The PS5 will not be "running cold" like everyone will try have you believe. Xbox, PS5 and PC all get hot when running games. It's about getting the hot air out, which all 3 do.

The internet thinking it's gonna be blowing out cold air or something, yikes.

@nessisonett That's why you play the superior Steam version. It has tracking as well as being better in every way

Nice to see the SSD drive bay size. Still need a definitive measurement for compatibility.

@SirAngry I don't give developers the benefit of doubt. The last 15 years of consoles has taken that away.

I'd be more worried about the framerate analysis that has already been done. It shows this game dropping to 20fps on PS5.

@710King Good, as long as they support proper outputs and formats I'm happy. Using a headset to game on anything that isn't a handheld is disgusting.

As for Atmos, that's not too bad as the Xbox and my new top end PC will, and I will have a dedicated Atmos output bluray player as well. Just wondering what PS5 games will support. Dolby Master? DTS master? Etc

Edit: I should clarify that my comments on this article are about standard surround output formats, not headphones. Can't seem to find confirmation of announced supported formats for games. Won't be using it as a bluray player.

@get2sammyb Got a list of supported standards? I'm not biting on their 3D audio gimmick when I'm installing a 12 grand atmos overhaul later this year. It

3D audio isn't enhancing existing standards, it's an alternative.

@nessisonett PS5 will exclusively be the only modern platform without a native Skyrim port.

Hope they support real surround sound, I haven't seen anything to say they'll be using established standards.

But Miles Morales isn't PS5 exclusive.

@TeapotBuddha Thanks. I've been mostly staying away from Cyberpunk info for so long I couldn't even remember everything.

I seem to recall something about driving only being travel between the zones? So each district is a "level" style area per say?

Or am imagining things?

@710King No, that's what the writer is suggesting. I'm saying the basic OS is finished and on the console.

@thefourfoldroot You missed the point entirely. Sammy is implying the OS isn't even finished and on the console at all.

@RedShirtRod The units are almost certainly already produced too at this point, meaning the OS is installed already. Don't listen to damage control.

No idea why this non exclusive multiplat has this.

@theheadofabroom I just rewatched it a few minutes ago, the 7000mbps comment he made is practically unrelated so everyone spouting that is entirely wrong. There was absolutely no logical leap to the 7000mbps imo. It's said completely separate. He was comparing max PCIE 3.0 speeds to PCIE 4.0 speeds and made no indication it was related to what was needed.

He did say "at least of equal to speed our drive" and "ideally, slightly faster to make up for any possible issues that might arise due to less priority levels" though. So I can see a 5500 working, and a 6200 being enough to cover bases, 7000+ being overkill.

@Medic_Alert There are 3 announced drives to be available soon with at least 7000mbps read speed (1 is even over 7000).

Semi on topic, I don't remember the the specifics of the Cerny presentation, other than the drive being 5500mbps raw speed. Did he actually say 7000mbps for a compatible drive? I see this quoted all the time but everyone fails to provide a reference.

@NEStalgia Playstation outlets desperate for any type of win after the last few weeks of Sony fumbles.

@AJDarkstar That would be terrible because that is the same principle of TVs with their fake motion smoothing.

@nessisonett That's no way to talk about the PS5 OS!

@Jarobusa They pronably don't want outlets picking apart the fine details showing that the PS5 is less powerful than the competition.

@wiiware 30fps isn't smooth though. You mean consistant.