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@rachetmarvel @GADG3Tx87 Hadn't seen those myself. Everything for P4G has been perfect for me, 60 hours in. Shame.

On topic: I refunded it because I don't support bad/lazy ports. I will gladly rebuy it to try the best version of a game I have almost no interest in, when it's fixed to an acceptable level.

@GADG3Tx87 I haven't seen anyone complain about P4G. I've been playing it solid 8k 60fps with only 1 minor shadow glitch in a scene that is only in the game once.

Sony censor a bunch of anime games, so good luck with that.

I only support censoring that 1 game where you got buffs and rewards for diddling underage girls. No surprise the Nintendrones were championing Nintendo for allowing that to be uncensored on Switch.

Everything else censored was unneeded.

1 out of 10. A pure guess fot lucky on the last question. No surprise though, when a studio only makes maybe 3 good games in 35 years.

I'll wait for the best version on PC. Too many attrocious console versions due to corporate money. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

@AdamNovice Demand better

@AdamNovice Now including extra bribes as sales, gotcha. Says it all. Move those goal posts some more. Still woulda sold more to date if it launched properly.

Can't wait for the PC version, since the PS4 Pro version was a disaster.

@parvaz1 Wow.....just

Wow.

Then again I am on a Playstation website so no surprise.

@Feena After what I saw on my PS4 Pro for FF7R, I'll be waiting out timed exclusivity on every subsequent game.

@Rafie Think you're mixing up what I said.

I didn't say anything about other platforms selling more or the same. It was the total of 3 platforms adding to more than 5 million because not everyone has PS4 or would buy it on here if they had the chance.

@parvaz1 So by your logic, they still lost 20-25% sales

@AdamNovice Now imagine it was available on the other 2 platforms Sony paid to keep it off at the same time. Anyone with PC or Xbox would also be buying it.

"If you pay extra to get the next gen upgrade bundle, you get the next gen version free!"

Never change, gaming media.

@Weebleman Just hope it's a free upgrade patch. I don't give any company the benefit of the doubt at this point.

@Robinsad Those people could get a PC webcam that has had these features for several years and cost less. No need to get the PS5 camera for 99% of people. Other than streaming, I imagine there will be 2-3 games that use it.

@Weebleman I imagine so too. Maybe not every 1st party title, but the big games.

@Vinsta76 I question what hardware people are using, mine took nowhere near that. Probably 2 minutes max on a top of the line PC.

I'll check it out when it launches. I have it on Steam with a beefy PC. A PC version with a playable framerate, native high resolution and extra bells and whistles (along with lower price) can sometimes tempt me into trying a game I have zero interest in, like HZD.

@anon42 Your comment to @Ralizah sums it up perfectly. This is exactly why PC gamers hate the EGS. They have brought a closed system console practice that consoles have done for years, nigh on decades, to the open PC platform. Sony and Microsoft have been doing it for years, people were just purposely ignoring it because it benefitted them or were just not paying attention.

I'll be skipping any game I know is timed exclusive until it comes to PC, where I can play it better. FF7R burned me with the console limitations because of Sony money. Luckily that was the absolute top of the few "can't wait" games, so they won't be fooling me again.

I'm gonna be taking names.of all you supporters and calling out your hypocrisy when you complain about Microsoft does it.

On topic: I won't be fooled again. FF7R taught me to wait, no matter the game. That was probably the #1 "cannot wait" timed exclusive. And it burned me bad.

Already have it preordered at Gamestop Ireland.

I always enjoy watching the media downplay the power difference in as creative as language as possible.

Makes me even more content in career choice.

@Agramonte Not out till December though iirc? It's the usual "100mb placeholder download".

I wouldn't waste the € though.

@Redman35 @djlard The whole "exclusive" terminology has become a disaster because of the mental gymnastics companies have employed to try get any type of marketing 1 up on the other company.

Xbox doesn't have any exclusives anymore, because they're either on several Xbox systems (and PC) or on a single Xbox + PC as well. It's the same with "console exclusive". An attempt to salvage something from nothing for marketing purposes. Persona 5 isn't an exclusive game, because it's on PS3 as well. Horizon Zero Dawn is another example, PS4 and PC, no exclusivity there.

"Sony exclusive" or "Nintendo exclusive" is just as bad. Breath Of The Wild isn't a Switch exclusive.

It's either on 1 platform (aka exclusive) or it's not. Fanboy mental gymnastics and defending corporate damage control lines be damned!

@AlexSora89 Standing ovation.gif

Better than I could come up with.

I personally don't care if they speak out about it and do the opposite, or not. Simply engaging in the practice is enough to annoy me and the crux of the matter.

Quick side note that also annoys me are the fanboys that will praise (Sony website so we're using that as an example) Sony for securing timed exclusives but then turn around and complain when Microsoft do the same thing.

@theheadofabroom Since it's coming to PC at the same time, I doubt it'll be stuck on the windows 10 store only. Not even Microsoft's games launch only on there now. Almost all the other games for Xbox/PC (except 1, which is still a beta) after the Steam announcement have come to Steam.

Hate time exclusives. From Microsoft and their games/DLC and keeping things off Playstation, to Sony paying to keep FF7R to themselves for a year. Terrible practice no matter who does it.

@Agramonte And everyone make sure you mod in the orchestral soundtrack!

@TheFrenchiestFry More than one my guy, hence multiplat

@TheFrenchiestFry Then stop using the console defender go to response to try damage control. It's on multiple platforms.

@Agramonte The Definitive Edition S extras are massively over rated. It was just Switch owners/websites giving it 10/10 just because it was exclusive to their version. Saw my girlfriend play the Switch extras after I had already finished on PC and I was massively underwhelmed.

The visual downgrade was pretty rough to watch even for just the few hours it took her to finish.

@TheFrenchiestFry Canned console defender response. Multiple platforms, multiplats.

@1_W1NG3D_4NG3L Every single game shown was a multiplat. They are all on at least 1 Xbox console + PC. Some on both xbox consoles + PC

They were both pretty disappointing.

I'd consider buying a cheap DLC upgrade (I have the original version on PC) but wouldn't buy a full on version again. Well, outside of a 90% off Steam sale.

Since it releases after July 2020, it has to be certified to work on PS5 BC, so I'll happily play it on PS5 next year.

@GADG3Tx87 And yet they still do it. Same energy.

@MarcG420 Touché

@GADG3Tx87 Keep that same energy you guys defend with

Remember to keep that same energy PS users have when praising Sony locking out other platforms for money.

There's no L in hypocrisy, but you can have both.

I don't pay for online on any platform.

@carlos82 Can't wait to play the PC version without the console problems

@AdamNovice Considering every single review, including PushSquare's, cited the overwhelming, near constant texture issues due to console hardware limitations, the Sony money held back the best version for a year.

And 30fps.

Please don't let Sony money hold this one back too.

More like some multiplatform games and some exclusives, for accuracy

No loss to me personally. If I was going to get around to it later on, I'd be buying the best version anyway. The PC one.

I can't believe console players have normalised and defending paying to play online.