@J2theEzzo Agreed. Great game! Some of the best boss music in any game ever too. I'm not sure Konami would be into the idea though.... they don't seem to like any good ideas
It's just crazy that this game will only get better with time. I'll admit, it's a little underwhelming for someone who doesn't like to create right now. Lots of "demo" and "WIP", but so much promise.
My poor brother simply cannot play this game often because of these updates. He lives in the country where his internet is sold at 2Mbps down/500k up. Thats bits not bytes. It takes him weeks to download these patches. He even went as far to ship me his external hard drive to download the patches for him.....
@leucocyte That's exactly the growing problem with streaming though. It used to be that 'everything' was on Netflix and everyone rejoiced that they no longer needed 15 different cable packages. Now we are getting back to that point where you have to sub to so many streaming services. They all start to lose value at that point. Piracy is back on the rise because of it.
I get that business models have to have SOMETHING unique to offer these days, but all of this exclusivity is a horrible way for them to treat consumers. There are other more consumer friendly ways to demonstrate service worth.
There were many cases with this when it came to Fortnite and Minecraft. Consumers felt they had to invest in a separate platform just to play the same games they already own with their friends. Some people were stuck playing (as you call them) inferior versions of these games because they wanted to play with their friends. Isn't this still devaluing a platform because others might not own it? I could be playing Monster Hunter World in 1440p/120hz, but because all my friends play on PS4, that's where I play. Sounds an awful lot like that devalues my PC. Plenty of MH fans bought PS4 JUST to play this masterpiece back when it was console exclsuive. That seems extremely unfair to ask them to spend $200+ sub fees. Once it finally hit PC, they were still 'stuck' on PS4 since there is no cross platform save or MP.
It's anti-choice and anti-consumer. Forcing consumers into bubbles might work well for businesses now, but it's not what is best for the consumers.
I'm saying to me and my uses, PS4 releases are superior and PC versions are inferior. Console experience is by far better than PC gaming experience for me.
What makes you think PlayStation versions will be 'crappy'? What makes you think PC versions will be 'top notch'? There are plenty examples where console games port to PC and have a ton of issues/bugs/performance problems. If you value frame rate and resolution so much, you should be thrilled Sony is releasing more games on PC because it sounds that like is where you want to play. Currently, you don't have a choice. If you want to play HZD, you have to deal with 30fps.
If Sony releases previous exclusives on PC, they will simply be respecting consumers choice.
@WildStrike The consoles worth is what the market makes it. If you plan to buy/play on PS4 anyways, why would the inclusion of a PC or Xbox version devalue the console for you? Exclusives insensitive console sales at the cost of consumer choice.
In the past, exclusivity was more important due to differences in architecture and optimization. Console exclusives might have more time to put into fine tuning and optimization rather than spreading workload to other platforms. Now that all platforms are basically the same (except Nintendo), it just makes sense to spread the love.
The whole idea is we as consumers should have more choices. This idea of exclusives is outdated and just seems to lead to toxic fanboy/girl-ism. This is the same reason why people are pushing for cross platform play. Do you believe in cross platform play? Wouldn't that also devalue the console by your definition?
@Odin1985x It depends on what you value. To me, a PC version is always inferior for my use. Sure, graphics, framerate, and features are all 'better', but I'm done dealing with PC gaming. I deal with computer/application/server/network issues all day for my job. When I get home, I want to push one button and start playing a game. No dealing with drivers, updates, launchers, peripherals, etc. I did the PC gaming for 15 or so years, but I'm done with it.
You don't have to pay full price on games either. If you aren't happy with performance, wait for a sale (unless you're a Nintendo gamer...). Buying a brand new game doesn't really make much sense most of the time.
I wouldn't imagine console vs PC programming is all that different these days. Both are x86 and a lot of API/engines are shared. I would imagine if you know PC, you can quickly earn console and vice versa.
Also, adding PC versions of a game isn't a bad thing. If you love something, wouldn't you want more people to experience it?
I've only played Golden Abyss, 2, and 1. That's also my order from fav to least fav. Story in 2 was fun, but wasn't a huge fan of all the climbing everywhere. Gun play also didn't feel great on harder difficulties. 1 just hasn't aged well imo.
Prob just cause I'm getting older, but (until the last couple of years) I still looked forward to and enjoyed E3 stuff. It's true, it's not nearly as important or valuable these days though.
I never really caught the Last of Us craze. I just hate the actual gameplay so much that I never was able to finish it. Certainly willing to accept being in the minority there though. I wish I liked it.. I really do
Monster Hunter must be criminally under-rated to not even make the top 20. It's easily top 5
As much as I'm liking the Witcher 3, I'm not sure it's aged well. Combat and movement is so .... muddy? Clunky isn't really the right word, but it's not responsive and just weird. I wouldn't disagree with it being in the top 20, but maybe not 3?
My only real complains with the game were map design was sometimes a little weird and no coop. Otherwise, it's such a fantastic game. The Surge 1 had some amazing DLC, so I have high expectations for this one!
Seems like it's not really news worthy, but I'm afraid I'm already sick of seeing it everywhere on all of the internet. Did anyone really expect anything else?
I liked the show enough to try the game again. Still don't really like the wonky as hell animations/movement and 'go here, watch cut scene' game design, but I enjoy it more knowing a bit of the back story.
No Monster Hunter World Iceborne in the top 10? Invalid list. Best game of this generation/decade. It's an expansion, sure, but still. Surprised to see Days Gone up there too.. I went in with no expectations and was still let down.
@ztpayne7 Ah that's a shame, but I suppose if you aren't used to MH, things like the controls might feel strange and take getting used to. I can agree that the story mode join coop design is awful until you finish the story stuff.
It's my game of the decade by a wide margin. I think I have like 700 hours in and still find a ton of enjoyment in it.
@ztpayne7 Wow, that's the first time I've seen that opinion. Maybe MH just isn't for you? Nothing wrong with that, just curious as to what disappointed you about it.
@kyleforrester87 OLED are actually pretty good on battery since any of the black area is effectively using no electricity. It looks like a SUPER low resolution screen too, so b/w OLED is probably about as efficient as it gets in terms of a display (except maybe e-ink)
About time. I've been dying for one of these. I wasn't willing to pay the outrageous prices of the SCUFF or other modded brands and all of the weird official 'pro' controllers aren't as good as the DS4 imo.
Destiny was one of, if not, the most disappointing games I've ever played. I would also say it was the perfect example of how not to run games as a service. I don't even think it had too significant an impact on the market considering I can only think of a couple games that tried to emulate it. All in all, I couldn't disagree more with this one.
Warframe is great example of how to run a game as a service. You also have WoW, DoTa 2, LoL, Rocket League, Fortnite (which is probably the best example of a GaaS right now), Diablo III, and FFXIV... to name a few. Personally, I feel Destiny had little/no impact on most of these.
Well let's be honest, if Stadia did everything it said it would, that would have been somewhat scary considering how poor PS Now would have been in comparison. Since Stadia absolutely did not live up to it's claims (at least yet), it puts it at about par with what Sony offers.
I think PS3 was my favorite. It pulled me away from the annoyances of PC gaming and introduced me to the qualtiy of blurays. In general, I have great memories of the library. It also felt like the first major step up in consoles since the Dreamcast or Xbox.
Similar stories about PSP. I skipped the PS1 in favor of the N64, and I skipped the PS2 in favor of Dreamcast/Xbox.
Vita was awesome, but we all know where that went. PS4 has an amazing and probably the best library, but it didn't feel as big of a deal as PS3 did. There are still somethings I prefer to the PS3 over PS4.
Makes perfect sense. Personally though, I wonder what else that studio has to offer. Beat Saber has a ton of room for improvements, but has been stagnant since launch despite it's (what I would interpret) #1 position in VR.
Anyone who has played this and Beat Saber, how does it compare in terms of physical activity? From the videos I've seen, Audica looks very chill/low energy, but I guess low level beat saber would look like that too
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Re: UK Sales Charts: Dreams Flies Low as Bayonetta and Vanquish Breach Top 10
It kind of makes sense to wait on Dreams in general. The longer the game is out, the better it will be
Re: More Major News from PlatinumGames Coming Before the End of February
@J2theEzzo Agreed. Great game! Some of the best boss music in any game ever too. I'm not sure Konami would be into the idea though.... they don't seem to like any good ideas
Re: Round Up: Sonic the Hedgehog Movie Reviews Aren't Universally Kind
Let's all be real. The movie was excellent.
Re: Dreams Is One of the Best Reviewed PS4 Games of All Time
It's just crazy that this game will only get better with time. I'll admit, it's a little underwhelming for someone who doesn't like to create right now. Lots of "demo" and "WIP", but so much promise.
Re: Monster Hunter World: Iceborne Introduces Raging Brachydios and Furious Rajang in March
Yeahhhh that's a hard pass. Raging Rajang fine, but I don't think I want to deal with an even more annoying brachy. He's just the worst.
Re: Random: What the Hell Is with This Sonic Movie Merch?
I love it. Everything about this movie is so amazing
Re: TrueTrophies Provides Breakdown of Every Trophy You've Earned Over the Past Decade
@gaboice Looks like this one requires you to register while psnprofiles doesn't.
Re: Call of Duty: Modern Warfare Patches Are Getting Completely Out of Hand
My poor brother simply cannot play this game often because of these updates. He lives in the country where his internet is sold at 2Mbps down/500k up. Thats bits not bytes. It takes him weeks to download these patches. He even went as far to ship me his external hard drive to download the patches for him.....
Re: Rumour: Cyberpunk 2077 May Have Been Delayed Because It Runs Badly on PS4 and Xbox One
I mean, at that point, it's going to be a PS5 game for me anyways
Re: The Last of Us 2 Job Listing Asks for PC Experience, Has Some PlayStation Fans in an Uproar
@leucocyte That's exactly the growing problem with streaming though. It used to be that 'everything' was on Netflix and everyone rejoiced that they no longer needed 15 different cable packages. Now we are getting back to that point where you have to sub to so many streaming services. They all start to lose value at that point. Piracy is back on the rise because of it.
I get that business models have to have SOMETHING unique to offer these days, but all of this exclusivity is a horrible way for them to treat consumers. There are other more consumer friendly ways to demonstrate service worth.
Re: The Last of Us 2 Job Listing Asks for PC Experience, Has Some PlayStation Fans in an Uproar
@WildStrike Not always though.
There were many cases with this when it came to Fortnite and Minecraft. Consumers felt they had to invest in a separate platform just to play the same games they already own with their friends. Some people were stuck playing (as you call them) inferior versions of these games because they wanted to play with their friends. Isn't this still devaluing a platform because others might not own it? I could be playing Monster Hunter World in 1440p/120hz, but because all my friends play on PS4, that's where I play. Sounds an awful lot like that devalues my PC. Plenty of MH fans bought PS4 JUST to play this masterpiece back when it was console exclsuive. That seems extremely unfair to ask them to spend $200+ sub fees. Once it finally hit PC, they were still 'stuck' on PS4 since there is no cross platform save or MP.
It's anti-choice and anti-consumer. Forcing consumers into bubbles might work well for businesses now, but it's not what is best for the consumers.
Re: The Last of Us 2 Job Listing Asks for PC Experience, Has Some PlayStation Fans in an Uproar
@Odin1985x Likewise. I think you missed my point.
I'm saying to me and my uses, PS4 releases are superior and PC versions are inferior. Console experience is by far better than PC gaming experience for me.
What makes you think PlayStation versions will be 'crappy'? What makes you think PC versions will be 'top notch'? There are plenty examples where console games port to PC and have a ton of issues/bugs/performance problems. If you value frame rate and resolution so much, you should be thrilled Sony is releasing more games on PC because it sounds that like is where you want to play. Currently, you don't have a choice. If you want to play HZD, you have to deal with 30fps.
If Sony releases previous exclusives on PC, they will simply be respecting consumers choice.
Re: The Last of Us 2 Job Listing Asks for PC Experience, Has Some PlayStation Fans in an Uproar
@WildStrike The consoles worth is what the market makes it. If you plan to buy/play on PS4 anyways, why would the inclusion of a PC or Xbox version devalue the console for you? Exclusives insensitive console sales at the cost of consumer choice.
In the past, exclusivity was more important due to differences in architecture and optimization. Console exclusives might have more time to put into fine tuning and optimization rather than spreading workload to other platforms. Now that all platforms are basically the same (except Nintendo), it just makes sense to spread the love.
The whole idea is we as consumers should have more choices. This idea of exclusives is outdated and just seems to lead to toxic fanboy/girl-ism. This is the same reason why people are pushing for cross platform play. Do you believe in cross platform play? Wouldn't that also devalue the console by your definition?
Re: The Last of Us 2 Job Listing Asks for PC Experience, Has Some PlayStation Fans in an Uproar
@Odin1985x It depends on what you value. To me, a PC version is always inferior for my use. Sure, graphics, framerate, and features are all 'better', but I'm done dealing with PC gaming. I deal with computer/application/server/network issues all day for my job. When I get home, I want to push one button and start playing a game. No dealing with drivers, updates, launchers, peripherals, etc. I did the PC gaming for 15 or so years, but I'm done with it.
You don't have to pay full price on games either. If you aren't happy with performance, wait for a sale (unless you're a Nintendo gamer...). Buying a brand new game doesn't really make much sense most of the time.
Re: The Last of Us 2 Job Listing Asks for PC Experience, Has Some PlayStation Fans in an Uproar
I wouldn't imagine console vs PC programming is all that different these days. Both are x86 and a lot of API/engines are shared. I would imagine if you know PC, you can quickly earn console and vice versa.
Also, adding PC versions of a game isn't a bad thing. If you love something, wouldn't you want more people to experience it?
Re: Talking Point: In a Week Full of PS4 Game Delays, Are You Disappointed?
At this point, might just wait around to see if there are PS5 versions of any of these and just wait a few months.
Re: Sony Slogan Change Gives Weight to Massive PS5 Leak
If Gran Turismo 7 is a launch title, I will look forward to playing it two years after launch.
Re: Guide: Best Uncharted Games Ranked
I've only played Golden Abyss, 2, and 1. That's also my order from fav to least fav. Story in 2 was fun, but wasn't a huge fan of all the climbing everywhere. Gun play also didn't feel great on harder difficulties. 1 just hasn't aged well imo.
Re: Round Up: PS4 Back Button Attachment Reviews Are Incredibly Positive
Have mine on pre-order. Playing the Witcher 3 is a great use case... Holding X to sprint means no control over camera. Can't wait to test these
Re: Talking Point: Is Sony Right to Skip E3 2020?
Prob just cause I'm getting older, but (until the last couple of years) I still looked forward to and enjoyed E3 stuff. It's true, it's not nearly as important or valuable these days though.
Re: Poll: What PS5 Box Design Should Sony Adopt?
I like the UHD bluray style colors. I also wish they were smaller with less waste. I haven't bought a physical game in years though.
Re: The Last of Us Is the Best Game of the Decade, According to Metacritic Users
I never really caught the Last of Us craze. I just hate the actual gameplay so much that I never was able to finish it. Certainly willing to accept being in the minority there though. I wish I liked it.. I really do
Re: Official PlayStation Blog Users Vote The Last of Us as Game of the Decade, Top 20 List Revealed
Monster Hunter must be criminally under-rated to not even make the top 20. It's easily top 5
As much as I'm liking the Witcher 3, I'm not sure it's aged well. Combat and movement is so .... muddy? Clunky isn't really the right word, but it's not responsive and just weird. I wouldn't disagree with it being in the top 20, but maybe not 3?
Re: PS5 Is a Key Influence on Sony's Upcoming Range of TVs
@Amplified k... AMD FreeSyncâ„¢ Premium Pro then. Seems like the exact same thing as 2.0 only with an annoying rebrand.
Re: Gran Turismo Sport with PS5's Controller Is a 'Completely Different Experience'
After playing it in VR, it's absolutely ruined flat racing games for me. There's no going back from good VR racing to flat racing.
Re: PS5 Is a Key Influence on Sony's Upcoming Range of TVs
I just want 4k, freesync 2.0, and high refresh rates. 8k is stupid for gaming.
Re: Black Boxes for PS5 Games? Fanmade Art Has Us Convinced
Smaller packaging, less waste.
Re: The Surge 2 Kraken DLC Comes to PS4 Next Week, Early Access for Season Pass Owners
My only real complains with the game were map design was sometimes a little weird and no coop. Otherwise, it's such a fantastic game. The Surge 1 had some amazing DLC, so I have high expectations for this one!
Re: Poll: What Are Your Thoughts on the PS5's Logo?
Seems like it's not really news worthy, but I'm afraid I'm already sick of seeing it everywhere on all of the internet. Did anyone really expect anything else?
Re: PlayStation Classics Bayonetta & Vanquish Come Together with Original Cover Art
Hella excited to replay Bayonetta. I only got to play the crappy PS3 version, so I'm excited to see the good version. Vanquish is a nice bonus too!
Re: Soapbox: The Witcher 3's Post-Netflix Resurgence Proves There's Untapped Cross-Media Potential in Games
I liked the show enough to try the game again. Still don't really like the wonky as hell animations/movement and 'go here, watch cut scene' game design, but I enjoy it more knowing a bit of the back story.
Re: PlayStation Gear Website Once Again Shuts Down Across EU Territories
They saw you gave Death Stranding the #2 GotY position and they rage quit.
Re: Game of the Year: Push Square Readers' Top 10 PS4 Games of 2019
No Monster Hunter World Iceborne in the top 10? Invalid list. Best game of this generation/decade. It's an expansion, sure, but still. Surprised to see Days Gone up there too.. I went in with no expectations and was still let down.
Re: Game of the Year: Best PS4 RPG of 2019
@ztpayne7 Ah that's a shame, but I suppose if you aren't used to MH, things like the controls might feel strange and take getting used to. I can agree that the story mode join coop design is awful until you finish the story stuff.
It's my game of the decade by a wide margin. I think I have like 700 hours in and still find a ton of enjoyment in it.
Re: Game of the Year: Best PS4 RPG of 2019
@ztpayne7 Wow, that's the first time I've seen that opinion. Maybe MH just isn't for you? Nothing wrong with that, just curious as to what disappointed you about it.
Re: Newly Announced Back Button Attachment Turns Your DualShock 4 Into a PS4 Pro Controller
@kyleforrester87 OLED are actually pretty good on battery since any of the black area is effectively using no electricity. It looks like a SUPER low resolution screen too, so b/w OLED is probably about as efficient as it gets in terms of a display (except maybe e-ink)
Re: Newly Announced Back Button Attachment Turns Your DualShock 4 Into a PS4 Pro Controller
About time. I've been dying for one of these. I wasn't willing to pay the outrageous prices of the SCUFF or other modded brands and all of the weird official 'pro' controllers aren't as good as the DS4 imo.
Re: Game of the Decade: Destiny Paved the Way for Games as a Service
Destiny was one of, if not, the most disappointing games I've ever played. I would also say it was the perfect example of how not to run games as a service. I don't even think it had too significant an impact on the market considering I can only think of a couple games that tried to emulate it. All in all, I couldn't disagree more with this one.
Warframe is great example of how to run a game as a service. You also have WoW, DoTa 2, LoL, Rocket League, Fortnite (which is probably the best example of a GaaS right now), Diablo III, and FFXIV... to name a few. Personally, I feel Destiny had little/no impact on most of these.
Re: Game of the Decade: Dark Souls Laid the Foundations for a New Genre
I still think Demon's Souls was a better game, but that's just like... my opinion man. That was 2009 though, so a technicality.
Re: Xbox Series X Has a Share Button, Hellblade Sequel
So is this an "Xbox One 2" or just an updated version of the Xbox One X?
Re: Google Stadia Terrified Sony Before Streaming Service's Tepid Launch
@GodGamer Exactly. That was my point.
Re: Google Stadia Terrified Sony Before Streaming Service's Tepid Launch
Well let's be honest, if Stadia did everything it said it would, that would have been somewhat scary considering how poor PS Now would have been in comparison. Since Stadia absolutely did not live up to it's claims (at least yet), it puts it at about par with what Sony offers.
Re: Rumour: PS5 and Xbox Scarlett Have Similar 'Very Powerful' Specs, Microsoft 'Well Behind' Sony in Terms of Communication
@Gmork___ Thanks! Arrow 1000. I prefer the Alexi 600 model, but this thing rips too
Re: Rumour: PS5 and Xbox Scarlett Have Similar 'Very Powerful' Specs, Microsoft 'Well Behind' Sony in Terms of Communication
I want more details on what OS improvements they are making. Hardware is going to be close enough to the same.
Re: Poll: PlayStation Is 25 Years Old Today - What Is Your Favourite PlayStation Console?
I think PS3 was my favorite. It pulled me away from the annoyances of PC gaming and introduced me to the qualtiy of blurays. In general, I have great memories of the library. It also felt like the first major step up in consoles since the Dreamcast or Xbox.
Similar stories about PSP. I skipped the PS1 in favor of the N64, and I skipped the PS2 in favor of Dreamcast/Xbox.
Vita was awesome, but we all know where that went. PS4 has an amazing and probably the best library, but it didn't feel as big of a deal as PS3 did. There are still somethings I prefer to the PS3 over PS4.
Re: Beat Saber Developer Beat Games Acquired by Facebook
Makes perfect sense. Personally though, I wonder what else that studio has to offer. Beat Saber has a ton of room for improvements, but has been stagnant since launch despite it's (what I would interpret) #1 position in VR.
Re: Monster Hunter World: Iceborne Adds Another Free Monster and More in December Update
Pretty sure the dual blades from that guy hs dual element thunder/dragon? Or maybe it was paralyze/dragon... either way.. I WANT
Re: Talking Point: What Free December 2019 PS Plus Game Do You Want?
FFXII and The Talos Principle. How about a VR game too?
Re: Virtual Reality Rhythm Shooter Audica Is Out Today with Four PSVR Exclusive Songs
Anyone who has played this and Beat Saber, how does it compare in terms of physical activity? From the videos I've seen, Audica looks very chill/low energy, but I guess low level beat saber would look like that too
Re: PSVR Game Last Labyrinth Is an Escape Room Experience From Veteran Devs
Nice. I've been wanting a game like this. I was thinking the Zero Escape series would hit VR by this point; but VR seems to have lost a lot of steam.