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@theMEGAniggle Don't know, I've played lots of PS exclusives and I didn't really like Horizon, Spider Man, God Of War although I ordered it's older over the top gameplay style. But I do like Days Gone and really enjoy Uncharted, also TLOU 1, I won't go into part 2.. but I did finish it.
So I'll wait for a new Uncharted game before deciding if it's worth the stress of trying to buy a PS5 haha, I'll probably just wait for the slim though.

@theMEGAniggle I've been playing a lot of the games on Game Pass, a lot of older classics. But I've finished Watch Dogs Legion, got it for £15 in a sale, and currently in Resi Village. Also going through Cyberpunk, and Gears Of War 3, State Of Defay 2. Also play COD MW team death match. Oh and the Gears 5 DLC.
I would prefer the platforming of SackBoy I think. I didn't get on with SpiderMan before. Demon Souls and Returnal would probably have me throwing the controller across the room lol. I understand they are difficult. Well Returnal has no save feature as such.

On PlayStation I prefer the slower paced games like Uncharted.

@theMEGAniggle I couldn't think of them hence the question. I still class Myles as DLC. But still it's a full game.
SackBoy I think is the best of that lot. I've been enjoying my Series X, grateful I've actually got one of the new gen systems, I haven't bothered with the stress of trying and failing to get a PS5. But will be keen to see if a new Uncharted is announced. Or Syphon Filter or Resistance (all 3 would be ace). Looks like it's worth waiting for a PS5 Slim or see if a redesign happens next year at this point.

@theMEGAniggle Can you name them?

@playstation1995 They so need to bring back Resistance and Syphon Filter.

@torne And what if all these new IP's are over the shoulder story simulators.. hardly innovative if they are.

@rumple1980 Because the gameplay may be generic, a game score is more then pretty graphics you know.

Wasn't that impressed with it to be honest. Too cartoony for me.

Pure damage control at its finest... sorry but the damage is done and you can’t reverse that. The game wasn’t the best but wasn’t bad either, for me I played it more then Horizon or GOW or Spider-Man. So they just needed to say, nothing, instead of causing the s*** storm like they have.

@TuckNorris85 The woke PC generation we now live in I suspect..

Bloody hell! Ryan and Sony actually did the decent thing! Ryan looks more and more ridiculous for stating 'we believe in generations' by the day. I hope they learnt their lesson. Onwards and upwards.

@everynowandben Your not making any sense at all, if you are unable to clarify your original comment and instead just keep on referring to others comments, then it's a waste of time. And my original reply to you still stands. The posts you keep referring to still don't make any excuse for your insults.

@kyleforrester87 Too late now, he said what he did originally and now is deservedly getting the anger. He still sounds like an arrogant t*** in those tweets.

@everynowandben You didn't make any comments at those post numbers? Sorry but your comment still reads the same, so my reply is the same. Perhaps you could rephrase what your point is? Because others seem to believe you are calling people stingy gits for not paying full price too it seems.

@lindos Some do that already, you'll have to ask Sony why they don't allow it for all games but again I suspect money and cost and potential most sales will be your answer.

@everynowandben I am not trolling and stand by my reply to you, you accusing people as being 'stingy gits' for not buying games at full price, and relying entirely on reviews to purchase a game.

@everynowandben Totally.

@lindos They don't offer demos because it costs them money to do it, and they are afraid it'll damage sales because people won't like the game as much. That's why Game Pass is good in this sense as you can play the whole fake for nothing, but they should similarly offer the same thing for game demos on PlayStation. You have no idea if you'll like a game and if it's worth the full price till you've played it personally.

@everynowandben So do you generally in life only go by other peoples personal opinions in everything? Because that's all a review is, someone else's personal opinion. Do you use others opinions in what car you buy, house, your girlfriend or wife, what you eat and wear? You can't have your own taste and opinions?

Haha what a sad loser, he can frankly sod off with his moaning he's not rich enough! If he wants games to be purchased at £70 then he can damn well provide a full proper demo first then!!... but obviously he won't do that because it'll affect his pay cheque.. what an idiot. Because getting a refund out of Sony for anything is harder then tying a rope around the moon and pulling it closer to earth... so if the game is a buggy mess at launch, as they seemingly tend to be these days Sony being no exception, and they want you to buy it full price on Sony then they can actually offer a refund policy even if you've played the game for an hour or two. Or you know, actually launch game worth the money and that isn't a buggy messes...

@Nem Oh dear your still making that counter claim, you don’t even know what that is.. using your logic Jim Ryan stated “a whole slate” of games NOT older ones will be coming to PC. You accused me of lying and still are with absolutely zero proof to back it up.
Days Gone was launched in April 2019 and some would say that isn’t an old game and it’s on PC this year as confirmed by Sony.

Here the full interview with Ryan where he talks about it, read between the lines and basically they want to make more money through PC sales, and PC gamers won’t want old games all the time.
https://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/culture/article/playstation-vr-jim-ryan-interview-2021

But I’m sure you’ll carry in with your path of accusations with again zero proof. You carry on defending that plastic box buddy!

@Nem Let's roll back a bit here, you flat out accused me of lying, I said I had no idea what you were on about as your details were lacking to say the least, you then proclaimed it was because I stated that new PS exclusive games would come to PC. Both new and old. That's a counter claim. I asked you to provide proof as YOU stated that it would only be older games. And you've been in the defence ever since without providing a shred of proof for that claim.
So unless you are capable of providing that proof, then it's all your own personal opinion and nothing more. And using your own logic that puts you on the exact same standing as myself.

@trev666 Thank you for confirming my comment, which also makes your original comment inaccurate.

@Nem haha I'm afraid you've shattered nothing, only what is in your own imagination. You are a total hypocrite and fail to see it because your so blinded by your defence of a plastic box. You don't even know what a counter claim is when you see it. I requested you to provide proof to back 'your claim' up and as expected, because your incapable of providing any you go on the insult and attack.
Come back when you have valid proof of your claim.

@Nem No that's purely your own personal opinion with no facts to back it up. You are just as wrong or right as I am in this argument, unless you have a link to prove Jim Ryan stated only older games would be coming to PC, which he hasn't.
Your making it up just the same.
You seem to have failed to see that flaw in your argument..

@trev666 You know that sounds EXACTLY like Polyphony Digital, who I don't think have ever made another game bar GT. Oh and another point about how your wrong is to highlight the fact the studio behind the Forza games is making the new Fable game, which couldn't be any more different if it tried. Microsoft has already, reportedly, stated any of its studios can make whatever they want.

@Rash I'm sure one was once planned but was then ditched. I seem to recall reading something about it ages ago?

@ATaco Erm? Sorry to burst your bubble but Game Pass is turning a profit.

@Angelus3K Kinda lose any trust in this article when the facts in the first paragraph are wrong.

@Nem Sorry but I have no idea what you are talking about. You didn't exactly make your comment very clear.

Well there goes your second hand PS3 market. I mean shutting the store is one thing, but removing all game patches? That accolade of you never actually owning that game you’ve bought physically or digitally coming to light here.

@Medic_Alert And it’s only Monday morning where I am, wonder what state Sony will be in by the end of the week?

@Shepherd_Tallon Interesting how your only looking at this from a viewpoint of how it’s great for Sony’s bottom line and share holders, purely looking at it from a business standpoint, as opposed to what’s good for the consumer, because mobile games aren’t good for the consumer. Do you have shares in Sony?

Well, if they let you stream your games then it’ll be good. It they try to remake those games for mobile it’ll be a disaster as knowing Sony they will be ‘free to play’, with endless pay walls and micro transactions mobile gamers seem to love.
They bought Forza recently natively to mobiles, and unsurprisingly its to play so all the addicts can pay the micro transactions. I suspect Sony will follow the same route, and in my mind it makes those games worthless garbage, with pay to play and win being the name of the game. They have been trying to force this model to console games for years and so far, have been blocked or rejected from doing it, with laws now changed over thins like loot boxes as it’s seen as a form of gambling.

@GamingVeteran Your analogy is flawed, SNES games cost so much because cartridges were a fortune to buy even in bulk, and the market wasn’t nearly as big as it is today. Cartridges have always been the most expensive media to use.
And as for films, well if a film cost as much as a game to produce, currently I could rent that film on release on a streaming service to watch for £15, I could then wait and buy that film in 4K for say another £15, so £30 total to buy the same film twice, one to keep one to watch. How does that compare to a Sony £70 game bought through their digital store? The film studios are still making a huge profit.

@Medic_Alert Totally agree, it’s standard practice to play mind games through advertising and promotion, need to increase the profits to keep the share holders happy.

Sony’s greed affecting their sales, shocker. They don’t seem to know how to respond to customers unwilling to pay the price increase. Compared to the value from the competitor. Then again endless people happily buy the exact same Nintendo games.. but they don’t have price increases do they?
Sony will have to come up with something, and promoting your existing services isn’t going to be it, as they cost more money and have no PS5 games.

@Mikey856 Can’t tell if your serious or sarcastic, no matter on the ignore list you go, maybe you can mature one day. Next.

@Nem I do look, everyday and I smile... hmm and are you accusing Jim Ryan of lying then? Seems like you are. Only big talk comes from him matey, you should remember that, if you can stop with your hatred for a plastic box for 5 minutes.

@Mikey856 Yes you are delusional, now your changing the goal posts, got any proof it was 'always' slated to be multiplat then? You obviously hate Xbox and make the typical fanboy rant against them. Going by your post above. For instance proclaiming they have been failing their customers, just makes me laugh comments like that and the one by No.
Typical fanboys who don't actually know the reality and will defend Sony no matter what, just like Apple fans in a way that is, almost like cult behaviour, over a piece of plastic.

@Mikey856 And, Jim Ryan has stated many exclusives will be going to PC, they want that revenue and I doubt will wait 3 years again. The only reason it was 4 years for the original Horizon is it's a new thing for Sony to put its exclusives on another platform, Death Stranding was only a Sony exclusive for 8 months before it hit PC.
I'm afraid your deluded if you think Sony's games will remain exclusives for long under Jim Ryan. But reading your comment above I see you already are anyway.

@Serialsid Under Jim Ryan it seems those exclusives won’t be for very long, with many going to PC like some already have. You also need to read my edited reply I made after I actually read your comment properly.. and yes Druckman has killed ND for me. I like Uncharted, but I shudder to think what he will do with it if they make another one. A LOT of other talent were in the first 3 games now gone onto other things, and they over rolled Druckman.

@Matute According to recent reports that’s exactly what Sony thinks...

No absolutely not! The original game is a masterpiece, I bought it on PS3 and PS4, but TLOU2 had some of the worst woke PC agenda filled writing I’ve seen. Now I can handle the woke PC stuff, but the story was pure utter garbage and completely failed in is inconsistent message, the result of Druckman having complete control I fear, so I full expect him to ruin any ‘remake’ they make just to milk the cash cow, and Sony should be utterly ashamed of themselves for such a cheap act.
In fact as it seems to have rejected a Days Gone 2 proposal, for a TLOU remake because it ‘reviewed better’ is an insult to the entire gaming community and Sony’s board should be lining up bowing apologising to the community over this mistake! Like they did when their crap security was breached on the PSN.
Sony have lost their minds and fully floated of to the land of arrogance.

@Serialsid So your argument is based around first party games? The PS is hardly winning in those is it, most don’t have release dates, Horizon isn’t even guaranteed for this year, Gran Turismo doesn’t have a release date.. I see plenty of value in Game Pass as I don’t look only at first party studios. The Medium, Outriders, plenty of great indie games coming to it all day and date. Lots of news games on there not just old ones. The Fears DLC was fantastic and looked proper next gen. I really wouldn’t focus only on first parties for an argument, because it’s impossible to guarantee their release dates this year.
I’m very excited for The Ascent and was gutted it had been delayed, it looks like a proper next gen indie shoot em up. And will be day and date Game Pass, the service has opened games to people who wouldn’t necessarily buy the games.
For me the PS5 offers nothing currently, and if Sony is going to push this narrative of only making games with high profit and high review scores, they might not this entire gen. if the indie and third party games I am interested in are on Xbox too. A new Uncharted game would peak my interest but that seems to be all over the place if one will be made, I would love to see Half Life Alyx come to the VR2 and PS5 but I doubt it will as Sony seem uninterested in third parties and indies. I’m afraid I had my fill of over the shoulder action story simulators. And I don’t like Druckmans writing after TLOU2. We shall see what happens though.

@Serialsid That just shows how little you know of the Xbox and Game Pass, I'd even wager you'd be quite shocked if you actually knew what it offers.

@Carl-G Microsoft are already making a profit on Game Pass, they've stated so, so why would they increase the price of it? That's not what they want and they won't do it unless absolutely necessary. Also you can still buy all the games on Game Pass at discounted prices. Or on physical media if it's available. Hardly the direction of a company that will 'massively increase the price' of Game Pass once everyone is in it.

People are fools stating PS has nothing to fear from Xbox. For so so many reasons that opinion is flawed. You don't make money on a games console sale...
Sony made me get a Series X first this gen. I was thinking of a PS5 but Sony's actions make me less interested in that all the time I read the news coverage about them. As an older gamer I perhaps pay more attention to the script perhaps, and I seriously disliked Druckman's TLOU2 writing, that's another reason I went Xbox first.
This is relevant as really I like Uncharted, but it seems that's in a mess now with rumours of a remake being scrapped, and no plans for a new one but if their was a new one what woke political messages would Druckman write in it? That's a worry as I play a game to enjoy it, not worry about social affairs or someone else's political beliefs. That was a big turn off when I saw the studio behind one of my favourite games go down this road and brutally write out characters, with a stupid message that fell flat.

Sony is losing ground, Xbox are constantly in the news announcing great new games, making Game Pass better and better value, being interviewed all over the place by You Tubers to professional media, Phil Spencer AND his team working tirelessly to get their message out there.

And it's winning, Sony have hidden themselves away in the dark PS towers, closed big name studios, seemingly dropped their home market, moved all offices to the US laying hundreds of staff off, and seem to be utterly confused about their direction, we don't know what the direction is as nobody within Sony wants to tell you. They seem to want to pretend the customers don't exist? They are the most media shy I've ever known them to be. Ryan seems so uninterested in interviews or getting positive messages out there, and as for the rumours of The Sony board only being interested in huge AAA games scoring 90% on metacritic, that's an insult gamers and developers alike, and stifles creativity and growth.

I shall now wait until a PS5 slim is launched, see where Sony are then, before I make a purchasing decision, not that you can buy a PS5 now anyway. But so far they've lost me as a customer. Last gen I had all three consoles, still have my Switch and PS4 and Pro, but all I've been playing on is Xbox.
I should add here I don't like Spiderman or God Of War or Horizon or Become Human etc, I've played them all and to me they all felt the same as Uncharted but without the fun adventure.

@jorel262 That's the thing, the previous execs actually did get interviewed, they did get in front of the camera. They spoke to their customers. The new Sony doesn't seem to know you exist, Ryan certainly seems camera and comment shy, even when fans are desperate for any news and screening for it they say nothing even when that antagonises its customers. And in some cases loses them..
Xbox are doing everything they can to get in front of the camera, be interviewed from all levels, keep themselves in the news. Sony is currently the complete opposite.
Can you imagine Jim Ryan being interviewed on a You Tube channel? Phil Spencer has done a fair few of those now.
It's no challenge to keep yourself relevant in the news and people's minds during lockdown. All you got to do is sit in front of your home webcam for an interview.

@playstation1995 Don't forget House too, all of them did save PS and Sony after the PS3, allowing Cerny to design the console hardware and ditch its Cell processor. And now the new team are slowly eroding all their work.