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@Nem haha I'm afraid you've shattered nothing, only what is in your own imagination. You are a total hypocrite and fail to see it because your so blinded by your defence of a plastic box. You don't even know what a counter claim is when you see it. I requested you to provide proof to back 'your claim' up and as expected, because your incapable of providing any you go on the insult and attack.
Come back when you have valid proof of your claim.

@Nem No that's purely your own personal opinion with no facts to back it up. You are just as wrong or right as I am in this argument, unless you have a link to prove Jim Ryan stated only older games would be coming to PC, which he hasn't.
Your making it up just the same.
You seem to have failed to see that flaw in your argument..

@trev666 You know that sounds EXACTLY like Polyphony Digital, who I don't think have ever made another game bar GT. Oh and another point about how your wrong is to highlight the fact the studio behind the Forza games is making the new Fable game, which couldn't be any more different if it tried. Microsoft has already, reportedly, stated any of its studios can make whatever they want.

@Rash I'm sure one was once planned but was then ditched. I seem to recall reading something about it ages ago?

@ATaco Erm? Sorry to burst your bubble but Game Pass is turning a profit.

@Angelus3K Kinda lose any trust in this article when the facts in the first paragraph are wrong.

@Nem Sorry but I have no idea what you are talking about. You didn't exactly make your comment very clear.

Well there goes your second hand PS3 market. I mean shutting the store is one thing, but removing all game patches? That accolade of you never actually owning that game you’ve bought physically or digitally coming to light here.

@Medic_Alert And it’s only Monday morning where I am, wonder what state Sony will be in by the end of the week?

@Shepherd_Tallon Interesting how your only looking at this from a viewpoint of how it’s great for Sony’s bottom line and share holders, purely looking at it from a business standpoint, as opposed to what’s good for the consumer, because mobile games aren’t good for the consumer. Do you have shares in Sony?

Well, if they let you stream your games then it’ll be good. It they try to remake those games for mobile it’ll be a disaster as knowing Sony they will be ‘free to play’, with endless pay walls and micro transactions mobile gamers seem to love.
They bought Forza recently natively to mobiles, and unsurprisingly its to play so all the addicts can pay the micro transactions. I suspect Sony will follow the same route, and in my mind it makes those games worthless garbage, with pay to play and win being the name of the game. They have been trying to force this model to console games for years and so far, have been blocked or rejected from doing it, with laws now changed over thins like loot boxes as it’s seen as a form of gambling.

@GamingVeteran Your analogy is flawed, SNES games cost so much because cartridges were a fortune to buy even in bulk, and the market wasn’t nearly as big as it is today. Cartridges have always been the most expensive media to use.
And as for films, well if a film cost as much as a game to produce, currently I could rent that film on release on a streaming service to watch for £15, I could then wait and buy that film in 4K for say another £15, so £30 total to buy the same film twice, one to keep one to watch. How does that compare to a Sony £70 game bought through their digital store? The film studios are still making a huge profit.

@Medic_Alert Totally agree, it’s standard practice to play mind games through advertising and promotion, need to increase the profits to keep the share holders happy.

Sony’s greed affecting their sales, shocker. They don’t seem to know how to respond to customers unwilling to pay the price increase. Compared to the value from the competitor. Then again endless people happily buy the exact same Nintendo games.. but they don’t have price increases do they?
Sony will have to come up with something, and promoting your existing services isn’t going to be it, as they cost more money and have no PS5 games.

@Mikey856 Can’t tell if your serious or sarcastic, no matter on the ignore list you go, maybe you can mature one day. Next.

@Nem I do look, everyday and I smile... hmm and are you accusing Jim Ryan of lying then? Seems like you are. Only big talk comes from him matey, you should remember that, if you can stop with your hatred for a plastic box for 5 minutes.

@Mikey856 Yes you are delusional, now your changing the goal posts, got any proof it was 'always' slated to be multiplat then? You obviously hate Xbox and make the typical fanboy rant against them. Going by your post above. For instance proclaiming they have been failing their customers, just makes me laugh comments like that and the one by No.
Typical fanboys who don't actually know the reality and will defend Sony no matter what, just like Apple fans in a way that is, almost like cult behaviour, over a piece of plastic.

@Mikey856 And, Jim Ryan has stated many exclusives will be going to PC, they want that revenue and I doubt will wait 3 years again. The only reason it was 4 years for the original Horizon is it's a new thing for Sony to put its exclusives on another platform, Death Stranding was only a Sony exclusive for 8 months before it hit PC.
I'm afraid your deluded if you think Sony's games will remain exclusives for long under Jim Ryan. But reading your comment above I see you already are anyway.

@Serialsid Under Jim Ryan it seems those exclusives won’t be for very long, with many going to PC like some already have. You also need to read my edited reply I made after I actually read your comment properly.. and yes Druckman has killed ND for me. I like Uncharted, but I shudder to think what he will do with it if they make another one. A LOT of other talent were in the first 3 games now gone onto other things, and they over rolled Druckman.

@Matute According to recent reports that’s exactly what Sony thinks...

No absolutely not! The original game is a masterpiece, I bought it on PS3 and PS4, but TLOU2 had some of the worst woke PC agenda filled writing I’ve seen. Now I can handle the woke PC stuff, but the story was pure utter garbage and completely failed in is inconsistent message, the result of Druckman having complete control I fear, so I full expect him to ruin any ‘remake’ they make just to milk the cash cow, and Sony should be utterly ashamed of themselves for such a cheap act.
In fact as it seems to have rejected a Days Gone 2 proposal, for a TLOU remake because it ‘reviewed better’ is an insult to the entire gaming community and Sony’s board should be lining up bowing apologising to the community over this mistake! Like they did when their crap security was breached on the PSN.
Sony have lost their minds and fully floated of to the land of arrogance.

@Serialsid So your argument is based around first party games? The PS is hardly winning in those is it, most don’t have release dates, Horizon isn’t even guaranteed for this year, Gran Turismo doesn’t have a release date.. I see plenty of value in Game Pass as I don’t look only at first party studios. The Medium, Outriders, plenty of great indie games coming to it all day and date. Lots of news games on there not just old ones. The Fears DLC was fantastic and looked proper next gen. I really wouldn’t focus only on first parties for an argument, because it’s impossible to guarantee their release dates this year.
I’m very excited for The Ascent and was gutted it had been delayed, it looks like a proper next gen indie shoot em up. And will be day and date Game Pass, the service has opened games to people who wouldn’t necessarily buy the games.
For me the PS5 offers nothing currently, and if Sony is going to push this narrative of only making games with high profit and high review scores, they might not this entire gen. if the indie and third party games I am interested in are on Xbox too. A new Uncharted game would peak my interest but that seems to be all over the place if one will be made, I would love to see Half Life Alyx come to the VR2 and PS5 but I doubt it will as Sony seem uninterested in third parties and indies. I’m afraid I had my fill of over the shoulder action story simulators. And I don’t like Druckmans writing after TLOU2. We shall see what happens though.

@Serialsid That just shows how little you know of the Xbox and Game Pass, I'd even wager you'd be quite shocked if you actually knew what it offers.

@Carl-G Microsoft are already making a profit on Game Pass, they've stated so, so why would they increase the price of it? That's not what they want and they won't do it unless absolutely necessary. Also you can still buy all the games on Game Pass at discounted prices. Or on physical media if it's available. Hardly the direction of a company that will 'massively increase the price' of Game Pass once everyone is in it.

People are fools stating PS has nothing to fear from Xbox. For so so many reasons that opinion is flawed. You don't make money on a games console sale...
Sony made me get a Series X first this gen. I was thinking of a PS5 but Sony's actions make me less interested in that all the time I read the news coverage about them. As an older gamer I perhaps pay more attention to the script perhaps, and I seriously disliked Druckman's TLOU2 writing, that's another reason I went Xbox first.
This is relevant as really I like Uncharted, but it seems that's in a mess now with rumours of a remake being scrapped, and no plans for a new one but if their was a new one what woke political messages would Druckman write in it? That's a worry as I play a game to enjoy it, not worry about social affairs or someone else's political beliefs. That was a big turn off when I saw the studio behind one of my favourite games go down this road and brutally write out characters, with a stupid message that fell flat.

Sony is losing ground, Xbox are constantly in the news announcing great new games, making Game Pass better and better value, being interviewed all over the place by You Tubers to professional media, Phil Spencer AND his team working tirelessly to get their message out there.

And it's winning, Sony have hidden themselves away in the dark PS towers, closed big name studios, seemingly dropped their home market, moved all offices to the US laying hundreds of staff off, and seem to be utterly confused about their direction, we don't know what the direction is as nobody within Sony wants to tell you. They seem to want to pretend the customers don't exist? They are the most media shy I've ever known them to be. Ryan seems so uninterested in interviews or getting positive messages out there, and as for the rumours of The Sony board only being interested in huge AAA games scoring 90% on metacritic, that's an insult gamers and developers alike, and stifles creativity and growth.

I shall now wait until a PS5 slim is launched, see where Sony are then, before I make a purchasing decision, not that you can buy a PS5 now anyway. But so far they've lost me as a customer. Last gen I had all three consoles, still have my Switch and PS4 and Pro, but all I've been playing on is Xbox.
I should add here I don't like Spiderman or God Of War or Horizon or Become Human etc, I've played them all and to me they all felt the same as Uncharted but without the fun adventure.

@jorel262 That's the thing, the previous execs actually did get interviewed, they did get in front of the camera. They spoke to their customers. The new Sony doesn't seem to know you exist, Ryan certainly seems camera and comment shy, even when fans are desperate for any news and screening for it they say nothing even when that antagonises its customers. And in some cases loses them..
Xbox are doing everything they can to get in front of the camera, be interviewed from all levels, keep themselves in the news. Sony is currently the complete opposite.
Can you imagine Jim Ryan being interviewed on a You Tube channel? Phil Spencer has done a fair few of those now.
It's no challenge to keep yourself relevant in the news and people's minds during lockdown. All you got to do is sit in front of your home webcam for an interview.

@playstation1995 Don't forget House too, all of them did save PS and Sony after the PS3, allowing Cerny to design the console hardware and ditch its Cell processor. And now the new team are slowly eroding all their work.

I suspect he didn't 'fit' in or approve of the new Sony and PlayStation direction under its new leadership, so out the door he went.. something tells me fans don't like this new Sony?

Ah good ok Sony MO, never does backwards compatibility as it favours remaking the same games and selling them for full price to make a quick buck. Yea PS4 games work, but do PS3? And with enhanced HDR and FPS? Like on Xbox....
Seriously should leave TLOU well alone and make a Days Gone 2.. and get ND to make something new for once, preferably a game not stuffed full of Druckman's piss poor political opinions and writing.

Haha I'll believe it when I see it! The way Sony is going these days they'll close PS Now and offer no replacement...

Wow! It’s managed to outsell consoles considered to be commercial failures in sales terms, congratulations....

Jim Ryan is the hypocritical right that keeps on giving... I look forward to more hypocritical statements by the man and the damage of PlayStations brand and reputation, he’s off to a very good start I must say.
Sony haven’t got a clue how to react to Game Pass. I recommend they just get that PS5 slim out the door, actually make the system reliable, and get that VR2 launched with games like Half Life Alex.

This times a thousand! They have to get the best VR game yet on the new PS VR.

I should add I cannot wait to see how they portray Ellie and Joel in the upcoming The Last Of Us series... 🙄

Oh dear... I did have high hopes for it, but, alas, it may end up like all the other filament based on games Hollywood churns out. Crap.
Drake isn’t cool, he’s playful, and stuffed full of ancient knowledge and history. The character has never been portrayed as cool, did Tom do any research for the role first? Did the show runners and director and writers? Probably not enough. They most likely thought it ‘cool’ to make a film and make some money from the games series.

@awp69 I actually left PlayStation and just got a Series X, one of the reasons being I was sooo fed up with how loud both my PS4 and PS4 Pro were, I should not have to wait a year to buy a console simply because it takes Sony that long to make a quiet running model revision. It should be like that day one. I have to say this news doesn’t give me confidence in the PS5’s design remaining quiet either.

I have to say that’s a reach to allow users to control the fan speeds, so their PS5’s don’t overheat. Seems like a cop out as the system itself should be doing that automatically. But I bet it’ll be loud when turned up to stop overheating. Doesn’t seem like a very good thermal design?

@wiiware Yeap and to me it’s why they are dead as a studio now, anything Druckman wants will now be done. And for me he ruined TLOU2 and thinks way too much of himself.

@wiiware Apparently Druckman wanted to make TLOU1 with the story he put in TLOU2 but he was outvoted in it, thank God! He is someone who should stay far far far away from revenge stories as he hasn’t a clue how to do them..

It looked pretty generic, but fast paced. Shame it’s yet another Sony third person over the shoulder game, they seem to hate with a passion FPS game styles? They haven’t allowed one of their studios to make one for years now..

@JJ2 Is that the one they are in the prison cell with a robot outside and some creature in the cell, where he had what looked like a fluorescent green sausage wrapped around the back of his neck?

@dark_knightmare2 You’ve either never played the game, or misunderstood it, and certainly never laid any attention to what Druckman has said about it..

@BowTiesAreCool Yes this, ignoring the awards everyone watches to see the new games, and their were a lot! He seemed very grateful at the end for pulling it all off, I take my hat off to Geoff for making a decent show in the current climate. Even getting Keanu to livestream! And Nolan!

It absolutely met my expectations, but far far more for Xbox then PlayStation, overall I did’t see anything worth it’s announcement from Sony in the show.. and the awards were way too biased, yeah TLOU2 obviously won game of the year, which it didn’t deserve, but it no way deserved ‘some’ of its other awards next to that competition... even Geoff didn’t really seem to care about the awards and only cared about all the new game announcements! But overall Nintendo and Microsoft brought it, Sony made a whimper..

@As5as51n0 That’s crap if true. The new mode is being compared to the 4K 30FPS RT mode so I don’t think it is 1080P but 4K.

@Dan_ozzzy189 I’ll wait for the DF review before believing that.

Now this is a bit more like it! 4K ray tracing at 60FPS, oh yes, hope DF do a breakdown video soon in it. And ssoooooo many PlayStation fans said this would never ever happen on the PS5 hardware, despite me saying otherwise..

A few places not on this list.. it you may as well ask for money for Christmas to pit towards the console, I keep looking for both next gen systems and it’s pointless. If not there at the right time forget it... none of them state the time they will put the devices up for sale so unless your a bot it’s pointless..

@Paranoimia Well I’m not going to read some biased multi page report, but my point was about treatment of staff, not anti competitive accusations. So considering the large numbers of staff who left Naughty Dog due to their treatment, when did Microsoft do the same? And no redundancies are not the same as that’s staff being asked to leave by the company.

@nessisonett No he now just seems to lack any imagination and treats his staff bad. Naughty Dogs antics are well documented, I don’t recall reading anything about Microsoft. Yes I’m aware he made Uncharted 4 and it was not very good for me. A lot of talented people have left the company during and after TLOU and to me it shows in their games that came after.