Overall I was very impressed with the cooling design and how you can maintain it, they have thought about it being kept clean. And access is really good to the fan. With the Series X it’s restricted and a big box to collect dust and the only way to clean it is take it apart. To me this is a win for Sony.
People sent that threat over a change in face and not the upgrade fiasco? I don’t get this world, their are some strange people in it.. firstly sending threats like that but secondly over a game characters face?
@thefourfoldroot Of course it’s a software lock! The PS5 are built in the same X86 architecture as the Xbox One and Series X! It’s foolish to stare this is something to do with the SSD, Sony saying it’s up to the devs is an attempt to hide this fact. Or a lot of devs are incapable of working out how to do it, but I doubt that.
@God_of_Nowt If that’s the case that’s very poor for a racing game, usually the easiest games to make run at 60FPS or faster, not really good if it can’t run at 4K 60FPS with ray tracing in 2020 on new hardware not in the market yet.
@thefourfoldroot No it’s not, that’s a bogus excuse, why would a dev of the same game make the saves work on one platform and not the other, when the hardware basis is exactly the same? In old and new gen machines. .
This is kinda a joke to be honest, the Xbox works perfectly fine and it’s using the same hardware basis.. both old and new gen, but Sony can’t or won’t make cross saves work? It has nothing to do with the games and everything to do with Sony’s OS or something software related, this game launches what 2 weeks before the PS5 does yet the saves won’t transfer..
@LiamCroft That’s great that we have an update on this, but also bad as this is from a developer and NOT Sony, who haven’t said a word on this at all. It’s more evidence of rumours being made simply due to a complete lack of facts or information from Sony, 40 odd days from launch! And even then in your story the developer seems to only discuss how there own game will work.
@JapaneseSonic Considering what else the Sony execs have said over the last year, which then turned out to be false or twisting of the truth.. I’ll believe it when I hear it with the PS5.
Well that’s just really poor, but is it on the devs or Sony if it’s true? But yeah some of these games people will have put hours and hours into and won’t want to start from scratch again.
@Flaming_Kaiser Firstly no I don’t only talk about ‘negative’ stuff, or have you only read comments on here? Secondly it’s not nonsense as others on here are repeating the same thing. Sony have never launched a console like this in such secret. And I have never known a game that launched in 6 or 7 weeks to not show any details of gameplay. Please do tell if you know of one.
@JustNeepz Please.. the SSD will NOT have any impact on the terraflop deficit between the Series X and PS5, why do you keep trying to argue as though it will? Raw power is what will drive the graphics, not a storage device. And Sonys console is designed to fluctuate its power so won’t constantly run at 10TF hence the 9TF figure, the Series X can continuously run at 12TF.
@JustNeepz No, a faster SSD will not close the gap in graphics performance. That’s a fact, it’s a storage device not a graphics processor. Third party games ran better on the Xbox One X and it will be the same with the Series X. And the TF in the new gen indicate higher performance then in the last gen devices.
Also the Series X is built better for 4K games hence the split memory, it’s more work to code for but yields better performance with 4K games. I can see it comfortably out performing the PS5, people won’t care about faster load times when the picture they are looking at looks better on one over the other.
The only reason the PSP sold that many is because it was easily hacked and you could run pirated games on it! That’s not a success, I think you’ll find that’s why it is said to have been a flop, because of the piracy that surrounds it. Game devs stopped supporting it due to its piracy.
@hi_drnick Firstyk your point about the PS3 is moot as you literally repeated what I stated, try to come up with something original eh? And it was a failure until they changed it, if the PS4 didn’t succeed the PS3 was such a failure Sony would have closed its PlayStation department, go and look it up. Facts you deny...
And the PSP was a sales joke compared to its competition you know that Nintendo DS.. which sold over 154 million units, again facts you deny and many people questioned Sony making a second handheld due to this. The Vita only managed 16.2 million units sold, a total and utter a failure, and again if you bothered to read my comment properly, instead of seeing select words and trying to come up with a sarcastic arrogant response, you’ll see I stated it could have been great. You’d also see I quoted a selection of the consoles I own including a Vita, so you’ve only made yourself look a bit foolish with your reply.
Sonys arrogance nearly killed PlayStation, it remains to be seen if they have repeated that mistake with the PS5 because so far they are not doing a very good job.
@hi_drnick FYI PSP flopped in sales, PSVITA they dropped support for it very early when it could have been great and instead sold it as an accessory to your PS4.. also the PS3 flopped until they redesigned it and slashed its price, then it sold more, up to that point the Xbox 360 was outselling it regularly. And I have a launch PSP and I have a Vita and a PS3 slim and had a PS4 Fat, and had several Xbox 360’s.
@Adagiumx That Spiderman demo was on very early hardware, probably a PC, and it was a leak and was not meant for the public to see, so Sony did not ‘show’ that all as you were never meant to see it.
@kyethegr8t Great so you can make a gif, and no Sony has not done enough and neither has Microsoft, one hasn’t shown the console, the other hasn’t shown the games. So it’s obvious they will show more, seemingly from You Tuners it seems.
@Fenbops If it dose only run at 9TF most of the time then their will be a massive difference in performance compared to the Series X, the PS4 Pro is 4.2TF I believe, so a 3TF difference will be very noticeable. Not good.
@Eadgar Ah in that case you are right, they have shown Gears 5 running on the Series X which looked fantastic it had to be said, and Minecraft, also tech demos of both showing raytracing and HDR enhancements. It was in Austin Evans video from months ago! Since then there has been one game shown on the Series X, can’t even remember what it was but it wasn’t anything big or special. But they showed a gameplay demo reel for the Series S at its launch?
We know all about the Xbox console but next to nothing about the games, and we know mostly about the PS5 games but next to nothing about the console. Very strange indeed.
The biggest thing we don’t know is how loud it is! Would everyone be happy if you had another PS4 Pro in front of you? Forcing you to wear headphones or turn the TV volume to max just so you can play a game comfortably? I hate how loud my PS4 Pro is, and my launch PS4 was too loud too.. it does in fact put me off using my Pro, and no I’m not going to wear headphones to make up for Sony’s poor design choices.
@-Sigma- Two more... is useless. You’d better hope he does a decent job as he IS the boss of PlayStation, as is Spencer for Xbox, only Spencer has turned Xbox completely around, Ryan seems to be screwing PlayStation up? Thankfully Cerney knows what he’s doing at least!
@Eadgar @IronMike What exactly has Microsoft not shown off their console? Because they showed the UI and a few features if it and a terrine and the console running a quick game demo months ago. He’s they have lacked in game demos since, but it’s false to claim they have not shown the console, they’ve shown ALL the console now.
@kyethegr8t No you clearly don’t understand marketing, this is one crap, like really crap, marketing job. It’s a joke to be honest in the games industry as a whole. I have never known a game that can be pre ordered for £70 and it comes out in what 6 weeks and you cannot see any gameplay of it. Or find out how the game actually plays. Add to that a console that you cannot see, basically Sony has totally and utterly failed to connect with Social Media for its marketing, Microsoft has been heavily embracing it for several months now and make Sony look very amateurish.
All we’ve basically had is Sony showing some game gameplay off and nothing else. And Microsoft showing the console off and no gameplay. Now I can understand the games not being ready due to Covid, but then does that mean the PS5 isn’t ready due to Covid too but is going to launch anyway? Yeah I can see that not ending well..
@get2sammyb That’s actually pretty unheard off, that you can pre order a game for £70 that launched in 6 weeks and you cannot see ANY gameplay of it. Or find out any information about it. It’s one poor attempt to launch a game and a game console.All Sony have shown of the game is a CGI trailer. No one has a clue how it plays.
Rumours are their will be no more news until October 4th.. so 8 more days yet of absolutely nothing... you haven’t even see gameplay of Destruction Allstars, or even Sony actually show the damn console in real life and not some render! This is one crap launch by Sony, really poor and amateur hour stuff. And no Covid is not an excuse.
@Medic_Alert haha yeah it took them a mi h or two to show the back of the console after showing the front even! That’s kinda pathetic really. It’s drip feeding information purely for the sake of drip feeding it. Next they’ll show you the power on beeps, a week later the lights on the front. A week later the boot up screen....
@mrmartinrohr Read the headline let alone the story and you’ll see it’s NOT on the PS4 either for the same reason... and I doubt Sony is short if PS4 dev kits.. they just do not want the game on their platform.
@MidnightDragonDX It’s called wanting your chosen platform to do better, instead of rolling over on your back and yelling Sony give it to me all the time, why not step back and criticise them once in a while like this story, to encourage them to do better for their customers?
FM is a massive franchise, it has some truly devoted fans! They will literally buy an Xbox then to play this game. My concern is if this game won’t come to PlayStation due to Sonys short sightedness what else won’t be coming to the PlayStation due to the same reason?
Hhahahahahahahahaha what analyst is this? ‘Happily’ pay it, erm no.. in a totally unsafe unknown financial landscape when no one knows if they will be keeping there jobs or not now, no one will happily pay £70 for a game, much more in some countries, due to greed. I say greed as I understand developers and publishers have been earning record profits before this price increase..
Sony has always loved its ‘remastered’ copies of existing games and that’s a fact, look at The Last Of Us 1... I don’t expect the PS5 gen to be any different, meanwhile Xbox will be offering free upgrades to previous games left right and centre..
Ok, firstly this is from a random You Tune channel, I wouldn’t believe a word they say, and secondly it’s also coming to PC! Well as has been said you’ll see all those ‘exclusives’ from Sony on PC just like from the Xbox, so the only true platform to get is a PC and play everything..
@Subsided Three years as stated by Jim Ryan and I doubt very much it’ll be limited to 3 games.. by the time Sony has proper PS5 exclusives out Microsoft will have had a years worth at least I’d proper Xbox Series exclusives out.
@Oz_Momotaro Firstly so how do you o ow how much they make from Game Pass? Did you just multiply the subscription cost by 15 million? That leaves out a LOT of variables I’d you did Secondly Game Pass is not their only source of income. And thirdly it’s business if they wish to charge Sony console owners full price, of course they will do that and that’s IF they decide to put those games on competitor platforms. They could even put DOOM on the Switch and ignore the PlayStation. Sony is likewise buying up paid timed exclusives left and right, and they have done for ages. This is Xbox’s I have to say brilliant brutal reply to that action.
@Subsided You look the fool defending Sony. You are the one constantly claiming the Series X will be held back so you can do the explaining, because the same logic applies to the PS5, all third party games are made in the exact same computers, the same dev teams, so come on enlighten us as to why you believe the Xbox will be held back.
I think we need to see the real gameplay differences for Sony to earn any respect here to be honest. Oh and show a teardown of the machine and how loud it is and show the UI too whilst they are at it!
@Subsided The sheer blind dumb hypocrisy is very strong with you I see.. you must enjoy being lied to? Using your logic Sony will actually be worst then Microsoft, because Microsoft will support the Xbox One for 2 years where as Sony will be supporting the PS4 for 3 more years, that means cross gen games for 3 years on the PS5 holding it back all the way...
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Re: PS5's Dust Catchers Will Make for Easy Cleaning
Overall I was very impressed with the cooling design and how you can maintain it, they have thought about it being kept clean. And access is really good to the fan. With the Series X it’s restricted and a big box to collect dust and the only way to clean it is take it apart. To me this is a win for Sony.
Re: Sony Didn't Allow Japanese Media to See PS5's User Interface
Ssshhhhh it’s a secret, you’ll find out what the UI is like and how to use it and it’s functions when you buy it... Yeah good job Sony!...
Re: Spider-Man Creative Director Calls for Respect as PS5 Remaster Criticism Crosses the Line
People sent that threat over a change in face and not the upgrade fiasco? I don’t get this world, their are some strange people in it.. firstly sending threats like that but secondly over a game characters face?
Re: DIRT 5, Maneater Saves Won't Transfer from PS4 to PS5
@thefourfoldroot Of course it’s a software lock! The PS5 are built in the same X86 architecture as the Xbox One and Series X! It’s foolish to stare this is something to do with the SSD, Sony saying it’s up to the devs is an attempt to hide this fact. Or a lot of devs are incapable of working out how to do it, but I doubt that.
Re: Gran Turismo 7 on PS5 Inspired by Franchise's Past, Present, and Future
@sajoey RTX is an brand for Nvidias GPU cards, it has nothing to do with ray tracing.
Re: Gran Turismo 7 on PS5 Inspired by Franchise's Past, Present, and Future
@God_of_Nowt If that’s the case that’s very poor for a racing game, usually the easiest games to make run at 60FPS or faster, not really good if it can’t run at 4K 60FPS with ray tracing in 2020 on new hardware not in the market yet.
Re: DIRT 5, Maneater Saves Won't Transfer from PS4 to PS5
@thefourfoldroot No it’s not, that’s a bogus excuse, why would a dev of the same game make the saves work on one platform and not the other, when the hardware basis is exactly the same? In old and new gen machines.
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Re: DIRT 5, Maneater Saves Won't Transfer from PS4 to PS5
This is kinda a joke to be honest, the Xbox works perfectly fine and it’s using the same hardware basis.. both old and new gen, but Sony can’t or won’t make cross saves work? It has nothing to do with the games and everything to do with Sony’s OS or something software related, this game launches what 2 weeks before the PS5 does yet the saves won’t transfer..
Re: Gran Turismo 7 on PS5 Inspired by Franchise's Past, Present, and Future
No mention of ray tracing?
Re: PS5 Game Returnal Looks Amazing in New Screenshot, Plus More Details
Looks great but I think better to see actual gameplay. Also what res, FPS, ray tracing on or off etc.
Re: Rumour: Your PS4 Saves May Not Work on All Upgraded PS5 Games
@LiamCroft That’s great that we have an update on this, but also bad as this is from a developer and NOT Sony, who haven’t said a word on this at all. It’s more evidence of rumours being made simply due to a complete lack of facts or information from Sony, 40 odd days from launch! And even then in your story the developer seems to only discuss how there own game will work.
Re: Rumour: Your PS4 Saves May Not Work on Upgraded PS5 Games
@JapaneseSonic Considering what else the Sony execs have said over the last year, which then turned out to be false or twisting of the truth.. I’ll believe it when I hear it with the PS5.
Re: Rumour: Your PS4 Saves May Not Work on Upgraded PS5 Games
Well that’s just really poor, but is it on the devs or Sony if it’s true? But yeah some of these games people will have put hours and hours into and won’t want to start from scratch again.
Re: Soapbox: The Week After PS5's Showcase, Sony Told Us Nothing About Its Next-Gen Console
@Flaming_Kaiser Firstly no I don’t only talk about ‘negative’ stuff, or have you only read comments on here? Secondly it’s not nonsense as others on here are repeating the same thing. Sony have never launched a console like this in such secret. And I have never known a game that launched in 6 or 7 weeks to not show any details of gameplay. Please do tell if you know of one.
Re: Soapbox: The Week After PS5's Showcase, Sony Told Us Nothing About Its Next-Gen Console
@Flaming_Kaiser Please don’t insult me on here.
Re: Soapbox: The Week After PS5's Showcase, Sony Told Us Nothing About Its Next-Gen Console
@JustNeepz Please.. the SSD will NOT have any impact on the terraflop deficit between the Series X and PS5, why do you keep trying to argue as though it will? Raw power is what will drive the graphics, not a storage device. And Sonys console is designed to fluctuate its power so won’t constantly run at 10TF hence the 9TF figure, the Series X can continuously run at 12TF.
Re: Soapbox: The Week After PS5's Showcase, Sony Told Us Nothing About Its Next-Gen Console
@JustNeepz No, a faster SSD will not close the gap in graphics performance. That’s a fact, it’s a storage device not a graphics processor. Third party games ran better on the Xbox One X and it will be the same with the Series X. And the TF in the new gen indicate higher performance then in the last gen devices.
Also the Series X is built better for 4K games hence the split memory, it’s more work to code for but yields better performance with 4K games. I can see it comfortably out performing the PS5, people won’t care about faster load times when the picture they are looking at looks better on one over the other.
Re: Soapbox: The Week After PS5's Showcase, Sony Told Us Nothing About Its Next-Gen Console
The only reason the PSP sold that many is because it was easily hacked and you could run pirated games on it! That’s not a success, I think you’ll find that’s why it is said to have been a flop, because of the piracy that surrounds it. Game devs stopped supporting it due to its piracy.
Re: Soapbox: The Week After PS5's Showcase, Sony Told Us Nothing About Its Next-Gen Console
@hi_drnick Firstyk your point about the PS3 is moot as you literally repeated what I stated, try to come up with something original eh? And it was a failure until they changed it, if the PS4 didn’t succeed the PS3 was such a failure Sony would have closed its PlayStation department, go and look it up. Facts you deny...
And the PSP was a sales joke compared to its competition you know that Nintendo DS.. which sold over 154 million units, again facts you deny and many people questioned Sony making a second handheld due to this. The Vita only managed 16.2 million units sold, a total and utter a failure, and again if you bothered to read my comment properly, instead of seeing select words and trying to come up with a sarcastic arrogant response, you’ll see I stated it could have been great. You’d also see I quoted a selection of the consoles I own including a Vita, so you’ve only made yourself look a bit foolish with your reply.
Sonys arrogance nearly killed PlayStation, it remains to be seen if they have repeated that mistake with the PS5 because so far they are not doing a very good job.
Re: Soapbox: The Week After PS5's Showcase, Sony Told Us Nothing About Its Next-Gen Console
@hi_drnick FYI PSP flopped in sales, PSVITA they dropped support for it very early when it could have been great and instead sold it as an accessory to your PS4.. also the PS3 flopped until they redesigned it and slashed its price, then it sold more, up to that point the Xbox 360 was outselling it regularly. And I have a launch PSP and I have a Vita and a PS3 slim and had a PS4 Fat, and had several Xbox 360’s.
Re: Soapbox: The Week After PS5's Showcase, Sony Told Us Nothing About Its Next-Gen Console
@Adagiumx That Spiderman demo was on very early hardware, probably a PC, and it was a leak and was not meant for the public to see, so Sony did not ‘show’ that all as you were never meant to see it.
Re: Soapbox: The Week After PS5's Showcase, Sony Told Us Nothing About Its Next-Gen Console
@kyethegr8t Great so you can make a gif, and no Sony has not done enough and neither has Microsoft, one hasn’t shown the console, the other hasn’t shown the games. So it’s obvious they will show more, seemingly from You Tuners it seems.
Re: Soapbox: The Week After PS5's Showcase, Sony Told Us Nothing About Its Next-Gen Console
@Fenbops If it dose only run at 9TF most of the time then their will be a massive difference in performance compared to the Series X, the PS4 Pro is 4.2TF I believe, so a 3TF difference will be very noticeable. Not good.
Re: Soapbox: The Week After PS5's Showcase, Sony Told Us Nothing About Its Next-Gen Console
@Fenbops But we don’t know as Microsoft has hardly shown any games running on the Series X.
Re: Soapbox: The Week After PS5's Showcase, Sony Told Us Nothing About Its Next-Gen Console
@Eadgar Ah in that case you are right, they have shown Gears 5 running on the Series X which looked fantastic it had to be said, and Minecraft, also tech demos of both showing raytracing and HDR enhancements. It was in Austin Evans video from months ago! Since then there has been one game shown on the Series X, can’t even remember what it was but it wasn’t anything big or special. But they showed a gameplay demo reel for the Series S at its launch?
We know all about the Xbox console but next to nothing about the games, and we know mostly about the PS5 games but next to nothing about the console. Very strange indeed.
Re: Soapbox: The Week After PS5's Showcase, Sony Told Us Nothing About Its Next-Gen Console
The biggest thing we don’t know is how loud it is! Would everyone be happy if you had another PS4 Pro in front of you? Forcing you to wear headphones or turn the TV volume to max just so you can play a game comfortably? I hate how loud my PS4 Pro is, and my launch PS4 was too loud too.. it does in fact put me off using my Pro, and no I’m not going to wear headphones to make up for Sony’s poor design choices.
Re: Soapbox: The Week After PS5's Showcase, Sony Told Us Nothing About Its Next-Gen Console
@-Sigma- Two more... is useless. You’d better hope he does a decent job as he IS the boss of PlayStation, as is Spencer for Xbox, only Spencer has turned Xbox completely around, Ryan seems to be screwing PlayStation up? Thankfully Cerney knows what he’s doing at least!
Re: Soapbox: The Week After PS5's Showcase, Sony Told Us Nothing About Its Next-Gen Console
@Eadgar @IronMike What exactly has Microsoft not shown off their console? Because they showed the UI and a few features if it and a terrine and the console running a quick game demo months ago. He’s they have lacked in game demos since, but it’s false to claim they have not shown the console, they’ve shown ALL the console now.
Re: Soapbox: The Week After PS5's Showcase, Sony Told Us Nothing About Its Next-Gen Console
@kyethegr8t No you clearly don’t understand marketing, this is one crap, like really crap, marketing job. It’s a joke to be honest in the games industry as a whole. I have never known a game that can be pre ordered for £70 and it comes out in what 6 weeks and you cannot see any gameplay of it. Or find out how the game actually plays. Add to that a console that you cannot see, basically Sony has totally and utterly failed to connect with Social Media for its marketing, Microsoft has been heavily embracing it for several months now and make Sony look very amateurish.
All we’ve basically had is Sony showing some game gameplay off and nothing else. And Microsoft showing the console off and no gameplay. Now I can understand the games not being ready due to Covid, but then does that mean the PS5 isn’t ready due to Covid too but is going to launch anyway? Yeah I can see that not ending well..
Re: Soapbox: The Week After PS5's Showcase, Sony Told Us Nothing About Its Next-Gen Console
@get2sammyb That’s actually pretty unheard off, that you can pre order a game for £70 that launched in 6 weeks and you cannot see ANY gameplay of it. Or find out any information about it. It’s one poor attempt to launch a game and a game console.All Sony have shown of the game is a CGI trailer. No one has a clue how it plays.
Re: Soapbox: The Week After PS5's Showcase, Sony Told Us Nothing About Its Next-Gen Console
Rumours are their will be no more news until October 4th.. so 8 more days yet of absolutely nothing... you haven’t even see gameplay of Destruction Allstars, or even Sony actually show the damn console in real life and not some render! This is one crap launch by Sony, really poor and amateur hour stuff. And no Covid is not an excuse.
Re: Rapper Travis Scott Has a PS5
@Medic_Alert haha yeah it took them a mi h or two to show the back of the console after showing the front even! That’s kinda pathetic really. It’s drip feeding information purely for the sake of drip feeding it. Next they’ll show you the power on beeps, a week later the lights on the front. A week later the boot up screen....
Re: Football Manager 2021 Is Not on PS5, PS4 Because Sony Didn't Send Devkits
@mrmartinrohr Read the headline let alone the story and you’ll see it’s NOT on the PS4 either for the same reason... and I doubt Sony is short if PS4 dev kits.. they just do not want the game on their platform.
Re: Football Manager 2021 Is Not on PS5, PS4 Because Sony Didn't Send Devkits
@MidnightDragonDX It’s called wanting your chosen platform to do better, instead of rolling over on your back and yelling Sony give it to me all the time, why not step back and criticise them once in a while like this story, to encourage them to do better for their customers?
Re: Football Manager 2021 Is Not on PS5, PS4 Because Sony Didn't Send Devkits
FM is a massive franchise, it has some truly devoted fans! They will literally buy an Xbox then to play this game. My concern is if this game won’t come to PlayStation due to Sonys short sightedness what else won’t be coming to the PlayStation due to the same reason?
Re: Gamers Will Happily Pay $70 for PS5 Games, Argues Analyst
Hhahahahahahahahaha what analyst is this? ‘Happily’ pay it, erm no.. in a totally unsafe unknown financial landscape when no one knows if they will be keeping there jobs or not now, no one will happily pay £70 for a game, much more in some countries, due to greed. I say greed as I understand developers and publishers have been earning record profits before this price increase..
Re: Reaction: Spider-Man PS5 Debacle Shows Sony Is Out of Touch
Sony has always loved its ‘remastered’ copies of existing games and that’s a fact, look at The Last Of Us 1... I don’t expect the PS5 gen to be any different, meanwhile Xbox will be offering free upgrades to previous games left right and centre..
Re: Rumour: Metal Gear Solid Is Getting a Full Remake, and It's a PS5 Console Exclusive
Ok, firstly this is from a random You Tune channel, I wouldn’t believe a word they say, and secondly it’s also coming to PC! Well as has been said you’ll see all those ‘exclusives’ from Sony on PC just like from the Xbox, so the only true platform to get is a PC and play everything..
Re: Sony Considered Xbox Series S-Style PS5, Doesn't Think Lower Spec Models Have Had Success
@Subsided Three years as stated by Jim Ryan and I doubt very much it’ll be limited to 3 games.. by the time Sony has proper PS5 exclusives out Microsoft will have had a years worth at least I’d proper Xbox Series exclusives out.
Re: Future Bethesda Games Could Still Come to PlayStation Despite Xbox Ownership
@Oz_Momotaro Firstly so how do you o ow how much they make from Game Pass? Did you just multiply the subscription cost by 15 million? That leaves out a LOT of variables I’d you did
Secondly Game Pass is not their only source of income.
And thirdly it’s business if they wish to charge Sony console owners full price, of course they will do that and that’s IF they decide to put those games on competitor platforms. They could even put DOOM on the Switch and ignore the PlayStation.
Sony is likewise buying up paid timed exclusives left and right, and they have done for ages. This is Xbox’s I have to say brilliant brutal reply to that action.
Re: Future Bethesda Games Could Still Come to PlayStation Despite Xbox Ownership
@Iroha Yeah 15 million subscribers and counting.. I think they are making enough money from it...
Re: Sony Considered Xbox Series S-Style PS5, Doesn't Think Lower Spec Models Have Had Success
@Subsided Ah so you finally u detest and the PS5 WILL be held back by having games on the PS4, finally.
Re: Future Bethesda Games Could Still Come to PlayStation Despite Xbox Ownership
@Iroha And Bethesda own ID so what’s your point again? Not a very good attempt to deflect away from this news.
Re: Will Bethesda's Games Be Exclusive to Xbox From Now On? We Don't Know Yet
@Iroha oh ok so DOOM is a poor game is it? You lost any credibility you may have had the instant you typed that comment.
Re: Horizon Forbidden West Built from the 'Ground Up' for PS5
@HappyArtie Did you think of that all in your own or did your mummy have to help you?
Re: Sony Considered Xbox Series S-Style PS5, Doesn't Think Lower Spec Models Have Had Success
@LiamCroft are you a staff member or a moderator?
Re: Sony Considered Xbox Series S-Style PS5, Doesn't Think Lower Spec Models Have Had Success
@Subsided You look the fool defending Sony. You are the one constantly claiming the Series X will be held back so you can do the explaining, because the same logic applies to the PS5, all third party games are made in the exact same computers, the same dev teams, so come on enlighten us as to why you believe the Xbox will be held back.
Re: Horizon Forbidden West Built from the 'Ground Up' for PS5
I think we need to see the real gameplay differences for Sony to earn any respect here to be honest. Oh and show a teardown of the machine and how loud it is and show the UI too whilst they are at it!
Re: Horizon Forbidden West Built from the 'Ground Up' for PS5
If you believe a word Jim Ryan says now then your dumber then you look!
Re: Sony Considered Xbox Series S-Style PS5, Doesn't Think Lower Spec Models Have Had Success
@Subsided The sheer blind dumb hypocrisy is very strong with you I see.. you must enjoy being lied to? Using your logic Sony will actually be worst then Microsoft, because Microsoft will support the Xbox One for 2 years where as Sony will be supporting the PS4 for 3 more years, that means cross gen games for 3 years on the PS5 holding it back all the way...