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@Fenbops But we don’t know as Microsoft has hardly shown any games running on the Series X.

@Eadgar Ah in that case you are right, they have shown Gears 5 running on the Series X which looked fantastic it had to be said, and Minecraft, also tech demos of both showing raytracing and HDR enhancements. It was in Austin Evans video from months ago! Since then there has been one game shown on the Series X, can’t even remember what it was but it wasn’t anything big or special. But they showed a gameplay demo reel for the Series S at its launch?
We know all about the Xbox console but next to nothing about the games, and we know mostly about the PS5 games but next to nothing about the console. Very strange indeed.

The biggest thing we don’t know is how loud it is! Would everyone be happy if you had another PS4 Pro in front of you? Forcing you to wear headphones or turn the TV volume to max just so you can play a game comfortably? I hate how loud my PS4 Pro is, and my launch PS4 was too loud too.. it does in fact put me off using my Pro, and no I’m not going to wear headphones to make up for Sony’s poor design choices.

@-Sigma- Two more... is useless. You’d better hope he does a decent job as he IS the boss of PlayStation, as is Spencer for Xbox, only Spencer has turned Xbox completely around, Ryan seems to be screwing PlayStation up? Thankfully Cerney knows what he’s doing at least!

@Eadgar @IronMike What exactly has Microsoft not shown off their console? Because they showed the UI and a few features if it and a terrine and the console running a quick game demo months ago. He’s they have lacked in game demos since, but it’s false to claim they have not shown the console, they’ve shown ALL the console now.

@kyethegr8t No you clearly don’t understand marketing, this is one crap, like really crap, marketing job. It’s a joke to be honest in the games industry as a whole. I have never known a game that can be pre ordered for £70 and it comes out in what 6 weeks and you cannot see any gameplay of it. Or find out how the game actually plays. Add to that a console that you cannot see, basically Sony has totally and utterly failed to connect with Social Media for its marketing, Microsoft has been heavily embracing it for several months now and make Sony look very amateurish.
All we’ve basically had is Sony showing some game gameplay off and nothing else. And Microsoft showing the console off and no gameplay. Now I can understand the games not being ready due to Covid, but then does that mean the PS5 isn’t ready due to Covid too but is going to launch anyway? Yeah I can see that not ending well..

@get2sammyb That’s actually pretty unheard off, that you can pre order a game for £70 that launched in 6 weeks and you cannot see ANY gameplay of it. Or find out any information about it. It’s one poor attempt to launch a game and a game console.All Sony have shown of the game is a CGI trailer. No one has a clue how it plays.

Rumours are their will be no more news until October 4th.. so 8 more days yet of absolutely nothing... you haven’t even see gameplay of Destruction Allstars, or even Sony actually show the damn console in real life and not some render! This is one crap launch by Sony, really poor and amateur hour stuff. And no Covid is not an excuse.

@Medic_Alert haha yeah it took them a mi h or two to show the back of the console after showing the front even! That’s kinda pathetic really. It’s drip feeding information purely for the sake of drip feeding it. Next they’ll show you the power on beeps, a week later the lights on the front. A week later the boot up screen....

@mrmartinrohr Read the headline let alone the story and you’ll see it’s NOT on the PS4 either for the same reason... and I doubt Sony is short if PS4 dev kits.. they just do not want the game on their platform.

@MidnightDragonDX It’s called wanting your chosen platform to do better, instead of rolling over on your back and yelling Sony give it to me all the time, why not step back and criticise them once in a while like this story, to encourage them to do better for their customers?

FM is a massive franchise, it has some truly devoted fans! They will literally buy an Xbox then to play this game. My concern is if this game won’t come to PlayStation due to Sonys short sightedness what else won’t be coming to the PlayStation due to the same reason?

Hhahahahahahahahaha what analyst is this? ‘Happily’ pay it, erm no.. in a totally unsafe unknown financial landscape when no one knows if they will be keeping there jobs or not now, no one will happily pay £70 for a game, much more in some countries, due to greed. I say greed as I understand developers and publishers have been earning record profits before this price increase..

Sony has always loved its ‘remastered’ copies of existing games and that’s a fact, look at The Last Of Us 1... I don’t expect the PS5 gen to be any different, meanwhile Xbox will be offering free upgrades to previous games left right and centre..

Ok, firstly this is from a random You Tune channel, I wouldn’t believe a word they say, and secondly it’s also coming to PC! Well as has been said you’ll see all those ‘exclusives’ from Sony on PC just like from the Xbox, so the only true platform to get is a PC and play everything..

@Subsided Three years as stated by Jim Ryan and I doubt very much it’ll be limited to 3 games.. by the time Sony has proper PS5 exclusives out Microsoft will have had a years worth at least I’d proper Xbox Series exclusives out.

@Oz_Momotaro Firstly so how do you o ow how much they make from Game Pass? Did you just multiply the subscription cost by 15 million? That leaves out a LOT of variables I’d you did
Secondly Game Pass is not their only source of income.
And thirdly it’s business if they wish to charge Sony console owners full price, of course they will do that and that’s IF they decide to put those games on competitor platforms. They could even put DOOM on the Switch and ignore the PlayStation.
Sony is likewise buying up paid timed exclusives left and right, and they have done for ages. This is Xbox’s I have to say brilliant brutal reply to that action.

@Iroha Yeah 15 million subscribers and counting.. I think they are making enough money from it...

@Subsided Ah so you finally u detest and the PS5 WILL be held back by having games on the PS4, finally.

@Iroha And Bethesda own ID so what’s your point again? Not a very good attempt to deflect away from this news.

@Iroha oh ok so DOOM is a poor game is it? You lost any credibility you may have had the instant you typed that comment.

@HappyArtie Did you think of that all in your own or did your mummy have to help you?

@LiamCroft are you a staff member or a moderator?

@Subsided You look the fool defending Sony. You are the one constantly claiming the Series X will be held back so you can do the explaining, because the same logic applies to the PS5, all third party games are made in the exact same computers, the same dev teams, so come on enlighten us as to why you believe the Xbox will be held back.

I think we need to see the real gameplay differences for Sony to earn any respect here to be honest. Oh and show a teardown of the machine and how loud it is and show the UI too whilst they are at it!

If you believe a word Jim Ryan says now then your dumber then you look!

@Subsided The sheer blind dumb hypocrisy is very strong with you I see.. you must enjoy being lied to? Using your logic Sony will actually be worst then Microsoft, because Microsoft will support the Xbox One for 2 years where as Sony will be supporting the PS4 for 3 more years, that means cross gen games for 3 years on the PS5 holding it back all the way...

@NEStalgia They could never match the Series S pricing, the PS5 costs too much to make, the only reason they have the PS5 digital at its price point is due to the inflated games prices, they know the majority who own that console will buy the games form their store, which you cannot return a game to once it’s been downloaded or streamed, once you buy it they have you. Now they can control any sales that occur and I bet hardly any PS5 digital games will be in sale for a while.
The PS5 was going to be priced higher, they have had to match the Series X, and now as you said they are purely in the defensive. Send them a message and buy second hand I say.

@Subsided So what do you think is going to happen with PS5 games launching on PS4 for several years yet? Your very hypocritical and naive with your comment there, blindingly defending Sony totally ignoring the fact they will be doing the same as Microsoft.

This is nothing but Jim Ryan being all defensive, and a total hypocrite, if he was so concerned about lower spec models Sony would never have made the PS4 a lower sled model by making the PS4 Pro. Same thing even if the timescales are different. Ryan is full of it and should just stop talking really as he is only digging that hole deeper and deeper for himself.

If they expect to charge so much for their games, they better provide game demos too for you to try first. Because it’s difficult to return a game indeed impossible for a digital one if you’ve even downloaded or streamed it on PlayStation if you don’t like it.

Sony milking the herd it seems.. ridiculous game prices. Vote with your wallet, or spend a generation on bargain hunting for games,

What do you expect? A Sony executive said on video that the pre-orders would not be surprised on people.. Sony has lied all along it seems, about many things to do with the PS5, they have managed to match the Xbox One launch IMO.. Constant misinformation, backtracking, hypocrisy, lies, and mass confusion, and multiple tweets stating the opposite they’ve said before.

They’ll probably use the event to show you the bottom right hand corner of the back of the PS5 retail packaging and that’s it........

@Royalblues Saying Game Pass is losing money, now it has over 10 million subscribers, is like saying Netflix is losing money, well they are all still in business. I’m getting the Series X, I don’t really play Sony exclusives, I like Uncharted but heard it won’t be made by Naughty Dog, and I didn’t like TLOU2 story, I don’t care much for the rest of the exclusives and I’ve played them all. I do like Gears Of War though and shooters and spend most of my time playing COD, so an Xbox makes more sense for ‘me’. I’ll be keeping an eye on the PS5 though, especially when the inevitable slim version arrives.

@Royalblues Just to correct you, Apple is almost twice as valuable as Microsoft, and Amazon is also more valuable by a considerable amount. I’m not 100% certain but I believe Facebook and Google (Alphabet) are also more valuable.
Oh and Microsoft has said they are now turning a profit from Game Pass, that was from Phil Spencer, so no they are not losing money from it, it also creates a lot more gameplay time and people are buying games more after playing them on Game Pass. So it was a great idea that’s working for them which Sony so far have no answer for.

@KleebanKliban I think it’s clear from your comment you lack the knowledge to understand the context of my post, bless, you clearly display this with your turn to using insults as opposed to a proper discussion.

@Flurpsel That is very true, they sure do create a storm, but that’s the problem as Sony should know and understand this, they need to try harder with their marketing.

@AdamNovice But that’s assuming all those people will sell their PS4’s? Why would they? I think it’s more likely people would buy a PS5 and then a Series S, because they want to play exclusives on both platforms and don’t own modern PC’s, in fact with more people working from home I’d take a guess the only PC they have is their works computer, and they won’t want to play games on it.

@SmileyK Wrong because it can swing your decision, if your not interested in exclusives and are sat on the fence, then features like how quiet the console is, the interface and it’s features can persuade you. I like the new Xbox quick resume feature, does the PS5 have that?

@KleebanKliban Firstly Nope not trolling, you assume that as I’m discussing the Xbox.. secondly I did not say that, I said some people who buy PS5’s will get the XSS too, now you made the mistake of assuming they was to play multiplats, no it would be to play exclusives, it may shock you to know not everyone has a gaming PC and not everyone hates Xbox exclusives like you must?

@bbq_boy The Tortoise wasn’t due to go on sale in 7 weeks.....

@KleebanKliban Sorry but away from Sony fan sites I’m afraid the talk IS all about Microsoft and Xbox all day long.. and many many many people looking to buy that Series S even as a second console to the PS5. Microsoft pulled a blinder today right under Sony’s nose.

@AdamNovice Really... you do know that the multiplats easily outsell the Sony exclusives right? And many I can see will buy the Series S as a second system, so Microsoft wins.

@wiiware I think millions won’t mind missing them, I don’t care for those games, and millions more will get a Series S as well as a PS5.

@jsw-8 No they haven’t, if they were following the ‘Sony PlayBook’, we would of had all the information several weeks ago!

@ShogunRok Yes people forget the pandemic when Microsoft, a US company also, just like how PlayStation is based in the US now, has managed to do endless blow outs today, and using social media to reveal information.. it’s not difficult to do, Sony must be inept and incapable of following suite if your blaming the pandemic.. because it’s a hell of a lot worst in the US then Japan as far as I know.

@playstation1995 Read my post properly.. Sony can lose easily...

@AdamNovice And today???.... who’s trending more? The blinding next generation value Microsoft is offering today with complete blow outs and reveals? Or Sony’s PS4 VR games lol..... I personally do not think Sony can undercut Microsoft and will be facing a challenge.

What did Sony expect? Playing chicken on purpose with Microsoft has cost them now.. they are losing consumer interest which is moving to Microsoft, because they have all the talk and attention due to pricing and pre-order reveals.
And Sony is spending the week showing VR games... Sony better undercut Microsoft (which I doubt they can do) to get that attention and interest back.
But with Sony even refusing point blank to even show the back of the PS5 off or the console itself physically.. this is what they deserve.. it is not very hard to take a video and post it on social media...