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I wonder how much of a golden handshake Ryan got on his way out after creating a 300 million plus total loss?

@nomither6 Oh yes, I loved the last one on PS4 wasn’t it? Played it at least 3 times and the DLC. Yeap Sony of old (under different management and leadership it has to be said) was FAR better IMO, I think the PS4 may be the last great gen from them. I don’t care much for Spiderman (partly due to the fact it will not copy my saved progress from my PS4 to PS5 since I updated to the enhanced PS5 version), find Horizon incredibly dull and tedious. The only game I’ve been enjoying from them is Ragnarok. TLOU 1 was a masterpiece but part 2 was a joke IMO and they ruined it. And I haven’t touched a live service game from them. It seems people are still sticking to a handful of titles on the console, like COD, Gran Turismo, Fortnite etc more than ever.

I have to say, at this moment in time my PS5 has been collecting dust, although I might play TLOU one again on it. I am far more excited for the new Switch 2 and I’ve been hooked on my Steam Deck playing older games. For the first time I finished Bioshock 1 and 2 on it. Great games. Maybe I’ll get Judas on PS5 when it’s out? But others think the PS5 is the best gen yet so it’s all personal opinions. But with such a dry exodus of new or sequel games from Sony, just endless pointless remakes, I do not see myself currently getting a PS6.

I’ve never liked Horizon, to me it tried to have a story but fell short and I don’t really enjoy the game. Killzone was alright though, good action if the story was a bit flat.
Sony doesn’t have a single FPS exclusive and hasn’t for years has it? Relying heavily on COD for its FPS action games. And judging by this review it has no interest in them either.

It’s move to only third person over the shoulder games has made it a bit boring. SOCOM, Killzone, Resistance Retribution were great action games that softened the over the shoulder story games. And no new Unchartered either.

I like this new option, it makes it a bit easier to use, very fast and slick. Sony have managed to make a very nice system interface I think. Runs so fast too.

@IamJT Unless PS6 costs more.......

@ButterySmooth30FPS That would be Nintendo then in sales numbers terms.

Most likely it's the stupid idea of forcing games to run on strong hardware 'Series X' and weak hardware the Series S which limits what they can do.

@tpepper1985 Wrong on Game Pass, devs have spoken about that and say the money they are paid from that covers their R&D costs and development costs etc. They then make profit from the sales.

@roe It DOES matter, because the PS6 will by design be more powerful then the PS5 Pro, so if everyone jumps on the PS5 Pro Sony will think fantastic, we'll charge 700 for the PS6 too...

@Major_Player Hmm the number of Switches sold now would suggest otherwise...

@Max_the_German Couldn't agree more with that comment! Roll on Switch 2.

Ok just checked and it just seems to be official news snippets. Not too bad AS LONG as it stays like that, BUT what I do NOT agree with is it looks like if you have a disk game and go over its icon, Sony will put nice ad for you to purchase the exact same game digitally on the screen for you... they can f*** right off with that idea!!

I'll see how this goes but I may end up selling my PS5. I sold my Series X because after an update they forced endless rows of ads on you of Game Pass games, friends playing list, media apps, films etc all
Forced and unremovable.

This seems to be going down a similar path. Sorry but I do NOT do ads on a premium priced device with expensive games. If they want to do that they can damn well lower the console and games prices!

@DonkeyFantasy I'm betting it won't as much as you think and VRR doesn't mean it will either. Name me one game that does 120FPS at 4K native, not upscaled, on PS5.

@nomither6 I said 4K? Who said anything about 8K? I doubt your PC will even handle 8K, certainly not at 120FPS. 8K is nothing by a 100% pure marketing PR stunt! Can you buy an 8K monitor even? And their are hardly an TV's with it and the ones that exist are usually huge.

I agree up the frame rates, give a stable
60 to 120FPS, all anyone wants. But they have to do their PR bit I guess.

@DonkeyFantasy Not at 4K doesn't.

This sounds like a marketing PR stunt and nothing more, a waste of time and money and resources.

@nomither6 If you want 4K 120FPS all the time, you will have to spend several thousand on a very high end gaming PC. A console will not do it. I doubt next gen will either.

For me it was more boring and dull then watching paint try and dry in a high humidity. Only one reasonable new game, Ghost of someone, and that's not out till next year.
Meanwhile all the other studios are just making completely unwanted remasters, questioning why I've got a PS5...

@Fiendish-Beaver you ARE a fan! I love the series too and would be incredibly happy if it came to PlayStation. May even grab a cheeky next gen Xbox to play them on.

Not interested as I cannot see it being cheaper then £650 to £700 at launch now. It will be more powerful than the PS5 Pro.
I'll stick to PS5, Steam Deck and Switch 2.

Plus Sony's idea of games this gen has been utterly atrocious! The best ones I've played on PS5 has been Dead Island 2 so third party, and God Of War Ragnarok which is on the PS4 too!! In fact apart from COD and those two I've not played much else on it.

Well the base story is good, but will it work on screen in live action? I’m one who actually thoroughly enjoyed Borderlands, so this may work, but it’s now in the stages of really being made, with all the CGI and effects being made and then the editing…

700 pound console without a disk drive, and no new games still to show off. What the hell are Sony doing?
I can't see a State Of Play having anything new, more like trying to show off games on the new Pro console.

I have to say add why would you buy the Pro console, for which the only way they could sell it to you was by ridiculing the current model! Which has no issues.. Sorry Sony screwed up with this Pro model, it's not needed, overpriced, and shows Sonys arrogance has cropped up again.
I've also heard from those with dev contacts that none of them asked for any 'more power' from the PS5, because they aren't using all the current models power, but these are select developer individuals and not representative of the companies one of which was EA.

From what Sony's shown so far, the PS5 Pro is a machine looking for a problem to fix.

@Deoxyr1bose This, this Pro model is purely made for the devs who can't be bothered to make games properly and optimise them to use all the existing consoles power. They make more money then ever before, sell more games then ever before, the gaming community is bigger then ever before, but devs seem to be lazier then ever before.

The Switch shows just what can be done with the right optimisation, and games are slowly being optimised for the Steam Deck making it a viable device in its market still despite its weaker hardware.

Anyway no I wouldn't buy a Pro model for the reasons I just gave.

@Don PlayStation is effectively an American company, Sony closed practically all their PS offices globally, laid off hundreds of staff and moved the entire lot to California. Where I imagine they hired many Americans to fill the positions of those who didn’t want to relocate.

Having said that didn’t Sony recently appoint two Japanese fellows to be in charge of PlayStation?

I’ve read even on here so many comments about how people want Xbox to die effectively. Well this is what happens… YOU end up paying for it.
If this PS5 Pro by some miracle does sell well, then you can fully expect the PS6 to cost similar money. Because Xbox still won’t be a threat. Don’t forget your £70 games either, and if PS6 is all digital you’ll have to pay that a lot more at launch.

I’m looking forward to the Switch 2 being revealed, if it can run the same third party games and gets support, I think it will be competition for Sony this time.

This is so they can control the narrative, but like government, because they know they won’t sell that many units.

@Ysobad Your misconception on how the rich spend their money is hilarious, they don't go out and buy overpriced consoles. They don't buy the latest iPhone every year, they look for value which you've confused with being poor and shows some naivety about you.

It won't sell well, Sony thought Concorde would do well... they thought the PSVR2 headset would do well at its high price point, they thought the PS3 would sell well at its original price point.

PlayStation and high price tags have never equalled a success in sales. The PS5 Pro will be no different, even more so when it offers nothing over the standard system that makes it justify its price tag.

@Pranwell You can be in denial all you like, go outside of this site onto social media though and everywhere the new PS5 Pro is mentioned, so is the price and why no one will buy it. But spend the money, have fun, you’ll be a rarity that’s for sure in owning one.

Looking across social media, not ONE person has said they’ll be buying this, only people on here have said they will. Everyone complaining about the ridiculous price and the fact you couldn’t really tell any difference in the games they showed running on it. It isn’t looking too good for Sony I have to say, they may have priced themselves out of the market with this one.

Stating it’s an absurd overpriced piece of equipment is as much a fact as stating the sun will rise tomorrow and it gets dark at night. I hope they only make it in the thousands as that’s all they will sell!

What is worst is it doesn’t even seem to do anything to justify anywhere near its price. Exact same CPU, slightly better GPU, and in the comparison videos it was very hard to tell it was doing anything to make the games look better.

My biggest concern is that Sony price the PS6 at a ridiculous price point like £650 or above.

I stated you would be a fool to think it would be priced below £600, with a couple of replies telling me I was wrong, but I didn’t expect it to cost £700 WITHOUT a disk drive or stand even, nothing extra at all.

Are we going to be talking £1000 for the PS6? Xbox is no where now, and the Switch despite being the same thing targeted at the same market, is seen as different.
So Sony are doing what they like and pricing things as such.

But I do think it will face competition from PC's but also the new PC handheld market.

@Shalooda Wouldn't surprise me. They are after your wallet now that's for sure.

How much will the PS6 cost!!!

@CKFilms Yeap, and you wait many believe Nintendo will reveal the Switch 2 this month, and it could cost say 350 to 400 max. That's the one I'm excited for. I've got my far PS5 disk and might not bother with a PS6 to be honest. Sony just releasing overpriced underpowered (for the money) mid gen refreshes.

It has 2 terabytes? Why? WHY? Seriously, what idiot at Sony thought it a good idea to make it MORE expensive by doubling the storage?
Seriously you are not going to persuade people to buy more digital games by pricing it so high! They seriously should have left that extra terabyte, oh and left WiFi 7 OUT and slashed the price by a hundred or more.

Sony, what the hell are you doing? I dread to think how much they'll charge for the PS6 now, they've gone back to their PS3 launch days...

Xbox is busy going third party, PS is busy pricing themselves out of the market! AMD are laughing all the way to the bank!

Get it right it's £700 STERLING! Do NOT try to hide that fact!!!! And that's BASE price, Disk Drive is extra! 🤣😂🤣😂🤣

As I said, if you thought it was going to be below £600 you are DELUDED! Have fun paying that £700 price tag for some 'slight' graphics improvements and 60fps in 'most' games 😂🤣😂🤣

£700!!!! Hahahana

@Andy22385 People said that about Sony increasing the PS5's price twice also. We will find out in an hour ish.

@Titntin Ahuh, and has that been confirmed by Sony? I think not.

So looking forward to laughing when they announce the ridiculous pricing for it.. anyone thinking it'll be below £600 is delusional IMO considering they've INCREASED the PS5 price, twice.
And it'll give devs another excuse not to bother optimising games properly to run in the current hardware.

I'm much looking forward to the Switch 2 as DLSS has proved itself to be vastly superior to anything AMD has come up with lately.

9 minutes to say it's more powerful, several months trying to justify its £650 to £700 price tag...

@Decoy_Snake Exactly. Sony have PLENTY of IP, all they need to do is make games from them! I mean people have been crying out for Resistance and SOCOM games but no we haven't had anything for ages. Sony seems reluctant to make any FOS action games and instead is obsessed with the over the shoulder story games. They can get a bit tiresome after a while so some Sony IP FPS games would be nice.

@SlipperyFish Ah yes, I forget for some odd reason they reduced the Series S RAM size. It can’t have saved that much cost? That makes sense.

@Shadcai Now that is an interesting one, that game runs on the Steam Deck very well, but Xbox don't have it??..
If I recall devs said Xbox changed all their tools for this new gen and they aren't as matured hence it can delay games coming to the platform. Don't know if that's still the case though, but I wouldn't have thought it was down to lack of power in the Series S?

Yeah right sure it is.. that's what they want to have you believe whilst they accuse Sony of paying for exclusivity, which they have never advertised and came from some random games journalist originally. Sony and MS are ad bad as each other lately.