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Good grief so far the MS presentation has utterly embarrassed PSN State Of Play and Summer Games Fest… easily… what is Sony doing? And we haven’t had Nintendos showcase yet either..

And a LOT of CURRENT gen games.. not last gen too!

Hahaha anything more than 0 is too much. What a joke, expect you to pay to win, loot boxes, DLC probably, and charge for the game. I hope this flops hard.
Sony have lost the plot, they truly have. Ditch the woke stuff, ditch this studio behind Concord for sure who described those complaining of the robots with pronouns as ‘white noise’.

So get on with launching them already! Damn Sony wasting their time with useless multiplayer service game crap. I’d love for them to make a SciFi adventure in space, I think they were rumoured to be looking at one?

Better be some PS5 ‘exclusive’ games actually shown, actual current gen stuff!

Jim boy was right, didn’t think he would be but here we are. Also as it turns out putting your big games and big third party ones on your subscription platform isn’t a sustainable business model, which many have said previously.

@Shigurui Yes I get that now, but the way it was worded before implied if you had the PS4 copy of the game and purchased the season pass, you would get a free upgrade to the PS5 version. As it stands I have the PSN Plus PS5 version, nothing to do with the Season Pass. Whole things a total mess with misinformation on sites including this one IMO.

I've really struggled to get this update. I have my PS4 copy of Fallout 4 installed and purchased the season pass, but I still am not offered to update it. Sure I installed the PSN PS5 version but then I had two copies of the game installed rather then my PS4
Install being updated. This is one area where Xbox does MUCH better at. Sony needs to try harder.

Got this game as a birthday present from our dog lol, still have it and my PSP and it’s a great game to play on it.

Only got my OG PS5 in December so not interested, just got an OLEDSteam Deck too, next for me will be the new Switch. PS5 is fine as it is for me. Performs well enough, and a Pro model ain’t going to be cheap.

So they have readied the company for what lies ahead by cancelling games??? In what world does that make any sense?
Unless they are all related to the love services idea as that is understandable.

Not for me, I’ll stick with my OG model, only new system I want is the new Nintendo Switch 2 one. But for big screen gaming my OG PS5 will do. Looking forward to a couple of games coming out.

@GeeEssEff During their interview yesterday, I picked up the language as being they are not making enough money. Tens of billions invested in the department and it's not generating anywhere near enough income. They will be making some big changes I think this year but we shall see. They need to generate profit and quick. Share holders patience only goes so far. Sony found that out this week.

It's a brave concept, but they can't compete on console sales so are looking for new ways to do so. But I don't expect Sony or Nintendo to start releasing their first party games on Xbox anytime soon.

@cburg We shall see, Xbox don't announce console sales, because they are so low. Time will tell of Sony's reduced sales predictions are correct, however Sony I don't think are in trouble, they aren't spending several hundred million each quarter to put a single game day and date on their subscription platform. Plus a new Nintendo console coming out will impact their market and Xbox too.

@get2sammyb If you pay very close attention to the ‘fluff’ everyone’s ignored, they suggest they are in a bit of trouble, haven’t grown, laid off staff, finances not growing. So don’t be surprised to see some big name games come across, or Game Pass appear on Nintendos new console. I think they will also increase advertising and change Game Pass pricing and content across different levels. They were also nervous during the interview.

They said plenty.

@TheLotteryMan1 You know what, I thought Ryan was talking out of his ass when he questioned the Game Pass model, and why he would not follow it, then I found out Microsoft are paying up to 300 million for some of the big AAA games on it, and I saw those subscriber numbers plateau and I saw where Ryan was coming from after all.

@Grumblevolcano Nintendo? Their are only a few games that the Switch can handle really, expect HIFi Rush, but the Switch 2 or whatever it’s called, now that’s something else and I imagine it may get Starfield etc.

@Cikajovazmaj Yeah rumours by some of the most respected and reliable insiders and leakers in the industry…

These layoffs will have been planned ages ago, part of the merger plans. People are always laid off when mergers happen. Hope they got good redundancy pay though.

The boycott worked well then 🤣

EBay it is then. Whilst their are disks their will be a second hand games market.

Police and courts need to act and issue harsh punishments to make examples to put people off. Sad to hear she’s had to put up with such creepy behaviour. I think doxing should carry a mandatory arrest and serious fine or prison time.

@PixelDragon Agreed, although Microsoft will exist as a streaming service. I can see them pulling out in a gen or two. They matched Sony during the PS3 360 gen, then ruined themselves with the Xbox One, and this gen hasn’t proved a comeback really, doing a lot better but not a comeback.

@TrickyDicky99 Then that is still very very far behind Sony and Nintendo. They don’t want console sales though they want Game Pass subscribers, and if they do not grow, as they said themselves they will leave the gaming industry.

@jedinite 🤣😂🤣😂🤣 please don’t interpret your literal dreams at night as factual sales figures. It isn’t reality in the slightest.

@PixelDragon It will be very interesting when the new Nintendo console launches how Xbox Series sales will be impacted even further. It’s not looking good for them.

Hence why the Xbox Series is almost on a fire sale now to boost its numbers, all this shows is that Xbox will be a streaming service and software house sooner rather then later.

Go team PlayStation, incredible numbers.

@PixelDragon Used to being correct....

@RawnDawn Because politicians will request they are found and dealt with, and they CAN be found, Sony couldn’t give two craps about hackers and never has, two massive hacks and customer and employee data being stolen should tell you that. No system is impenetrable but Sonys seem very weak on security, and they don’t prosecute anyone and prefer to settle anything out of court. And thus they become an easy target.

That’s a real shame, I looked forward to watching it every year. I don’t think the replacement events are as good.

Why is their network so unreliable? Throughout any given year they seem to have several random issues affecting large parts of the network. Don’t they use Microsofts Azure network now?

@guntam What is laughable is you defending a lawyer out for a big pay day, which will mean if they are successful you as a consumer will be waiting years for a payout of pennies, ignore the monetary value stated here as it'll never be that much. And it won't force Sony to change anything apart from be at a disadvantage to MS.

@Mephisto2869 Thanks I'll take a look at them.

@Mephisto2869 Where can you find PSN cards cheap? Any particular place I should be looking at?

Lots of lovely fluffy pro consumer words, but really the agenda behind all that is this lawyer wants to make millions for herself and has seen a loophole way to do it. This type if trial is only worth anything if the same ruling is then applied to every other store front taking a 30% cut, which as we know is pretty much every big name store. Not sure how much Valve takes though from Steam sales?

@Grumblevolcano Yeap and that will impact the quality, they can't keep spending 200 million per AAA game they put on the service, which is what they are currently doing, Ryan was right when he said it wasn't a sustainable model. Even MS has limits on how much it'll keep spending, it needs a return on the investment and that will mean more price hikes, a LOT more advertising on the Xbox platform you can't get rid of, and a harsh push for subscriber growth, I think in 2025 they will start making Xbox exclusives Game Pass only exclusive. Like State Of Decay 3 and Perfect Dark, we shall see though.

@MrMagic Yeap it is, I sold my Series X though due to the ads being forced on you on it, all to pay for that Game Pass, not for me. Put the money towards new PS5 disk which I got for £380 from John Lewis, I know someone who works for Waitrose so they get 12% off, and that was on top of the special price promo on the EA football bundle JL we’re running. They had the COD MW3 pack for £410 the other day, Xbox can’t compete with that.

This guarantees will premiere at the Game Awards in early December then, it’ll just be more of the same anyway though won’t it? And still sell millions and millions and millions of copy’s like COD does.
I wonder if they’ve toned the game down at all for the current world, I hope not, I hope they’ve made it even more gritty!

@2here2there Yeap, I mean the leaks stated they are going to have a hybrid console that relies on the cloud for full games performance, and I bet they’ll be making some games Game Pass exclusive, so you’ll have to sub to it to play them.

And what figures or sales push will he be manipulating with this rubbish?

Is this app available in PS4?

Just more evidence I think of MS ditching consoles all together in 2 gens maybe. They solely rely on services and most likely make games Game Pass exclusive too, so you won’t be able to buy them but have to subscribe to own them.
Meanwhile PlayStation will still be selling great hardware and making great games and hold a dominant market share.

Happy to play COD the rest I'll pass, surprised to see Minecraft isn't number 4 though.

@RunGMhx Wow really? She was driving that crap?

@AsterZero Well Sone did replace the majority of the board, and they chose to chase after the American market first, but I don’t think they counted on Microsoft buying Activision. They should have left it as it was really. Not ditch their home town.

Still glad I got the giant OG model, that slim one looks really aren’t jiving with me. Sony does have some odd designs with its home consoles lol. But then I think the PSP was a stunning piece of design.

@species It's COD, you know what you get but at least you get a decent game for one sticker price, all the extra paid for stuff is entirely optional. I enjoy COD I have to say. Although I did get the Terminator pack in Vanguard as it was awesome running around as the T800 lol.

@BobaTheFett Trouble is Microsoft are not interested in software sales, they are really only interested in Game Pass subscriber numbers.

@species COD is still the number one selling game every year pretty much. So there is that. Remember the mass majority in the west play COD, FIFA and Fortnite. Oh and Minecraft and that's pretty much it.

Reading between the lines it sounds like 'experts' trying to change Sony's business model to match America's methods, and no doubt they'll cash in on it.

Reality is Sony doesn't need to buy anyone, they do so in a smart way, not sure what a big acquisition will add to them?