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@Mezzer What a ridiculous nationalist comment, you do actually realise Sony closed most if not all it's international SEC offices and moved operations to America right? So most of the staff at PlayStation making the key decisions are probably Americans, how does that affect your hate?

@GADG3Tx87 MS don't pay for 'chip priority' that doesn't exist, instead it's the exact same as any other company, the more orders you put in the higher up the list of priority customers you climb and more requests you can make, and the reality is Microsoft spends a lot more with AMD then Sony does, thus it gets preferential treatment.

@somnambulance Actually they outsold the Switch too.

Bit of a tip for you, I got my brother in law the WD Black 1TB SN850, (the one Cerney recommended) with heatsink for his PS5 last Christmas, got it in the Black Friday / week sales, and it was cheaper on Western Digitals own website then Amazon was, so make sure you check the manufactures sites also. My Brother in law hasn't made any complaints about the drive so must be working well for him, when I tested it I found it very fast too.

@Titntin A balanced reply, and in app purchases or MTX, whatever you want to call them, unfortunately are being forced on people. It’s the result of the mobile games market, developers found out they could data mine you and sell that information on, and make a killing on in app purchases in ‘free to play’ games. And they have been trying to repeat that same forums in premium titles ever since.
It is just plain simple greed at the end of the day, it’s what’s wrong with the world today, greed and selfishness is out of control, must offer value to share holders etc.
I only hope players refuse to buy the game, hurt them in the pockets as that is the only way to make them change it. The power of the customer can change the direction of business models if they can’t sell what they want to you to maximise profits.

@Titntin Their greed is balanced? Is that what you are saying? I didn't call them evil I said it's corporate greed, which it is. A game that lacked in app purchases in review copies, releases full of them.
It's also a little confusing as on one hand you claim you don't need to grind to earn cars but in the other you do? But if it's no different to before, however I've seen many say it's not the same as before and you have to work harder to earn cars now. So it seems to be differing opinions on this game.
But in app purchases of cars should have no place in the game outside of DLC packs at reasonable costs. It to me sounds just like the mobile game Real Racing 3 which introduced the cost of buying a single in game car as the same as the 70 pounds they charge for GT7.
We will agree to disagree I think.
You also did not need to bring up Xbox games either that have nothing to do with GT7 other then you using it as an excuse to somehow paint Sony as good guys, rather then a company after all the money in your wallet.

@bbauer36 Firstly it's auto correct that spelt their name wrong, and secondly nope sorry, not a salty Xbot as you proclaim, wrong on that one. But if you enjoy being fleeced blind of all your money thanks to corporate greed be my guest, I'll stick to my opinion thanks. Looks like your young and incredibly naive.

@Titntin Wrong, you do not need to spend money in Halo or Forza 5 to buy weapons or cars, you DO in GT7. Their is a big difference in the approach, GT7 is like a free to play mobile racing game, only it’s also a £70 premium console game… it’s disgusting corporate greed from Polygon and Sony playing on its fans wallets.
The fact it’s single player campaign has to be always online to work is just icing on the mess of a cake they’ve made of GT7, which is a shame as it’s a legendary racing series, but greed has evidentially got the better of them now.

Haha it gets 7/10 here and on this sites sister site Pure Xbox they give it 5/10, I have preordered it and Dan it wait and shall reserve MY judgment till I've played it, because reviewers 'opinions' and scores will vary.

Sony fans ripped on Xbox's Smart Delivery idea. Well now you know why it was a brilliant idea.
No reason what so ever why Sony can't do the same thing. They just seemingly don't want to?

@OneWingedAngel You quite clearly have little understanding how big business works. Your attempts to single MS out as special in some way is hilarious. Most companies would not have gone bankrupt, that's pure drama on your part, most would have done exactly the same as Microsoft did.

@HungryHungryHomer haha, I can imagine. But I do remember Sony execs throwing just as much mud back at Xbox during the PS3 / 360 days especially Kaz. I can recall Major Nelson etc. and the British guy who was running Xbox at the time.

@arra1213 So you don't understand what your talking about and seem very young. Keep dreaming.. Xbox is making nice profits. And MS has deep pockets.

@HungryHungryHomer I only remember endless PlayStation fans and content creators and media constantly stating the Xbox has no games. So I don't recall Xbox starting it at all, even if they others took it to the next level agains Xbox.
As for COD I never said it won't be in other platforms. Although reading the press release that may not be true, but we shall see. And COD doesn't need to be different, it's more or less the top selling game every year, it doesn't need to change.

@OneWingedAngel So are you claiming now that Xbox doesn't generate a profit then?

@The_Moose So your still trying to downplay the money Xbox generate. And you know what I mean by over the shimmer story simulators, It's a lack of variations that other platforms enjoy.

@The_Moose Yes they are, with 25 million subscribers: http://news.xbox.com/en-us/2022/01/18/welcoming-activision-blizzard-to-microsoft-gaming/ and growing, and that £1 you keep going in about is a special offer only for new customers and is for a limited time..
Game Pass is fantastic and no doubt when Sony launch their version of it, Sony fans will be praising it as the greatest thing in gaming.... because that's the hypocrisy they have. Microsoft aren't strangling anything.
As for safe games, just when was the last time Sony allowed it's studios to make a game that wasn't an over the shoulder third person story simulator?

@The_Moose Yeah mate it is... it's called a business model... it's why they are making a profit from it. And I crating understand it. But hey if you are more qualified to know better then the entire Microsoft executive team, management, analysts, marketing, then please do tell.
But over a year now and it's going from strength to strength. And Sony are heavily rumoured, even in articles in this very site, to be copying the same business model. But sure it's not sustainable.

@HungryHungryHomer Be in denial if you want, your choice. You keep claiming Xbox has no games..

@ShogunRok Good grief you lot STILL don't get it? Amazing and Netflix and Apple and Meta have all showing a great interest in gaming, all offer big service platforms, I won't be surprised to see them start buying up those publishers and studios you mention. Because that is exactly what Phil meant when he said Sony was not their competition anymore. Your eyes shouldn't by on Microsoft all the time..

This 'end of an era' clap trap is pure click bait knee jerk reaction. Sony aren't going anywhere, but I'd suggest they ditch the management there...

@DotM Well, Sony and Nintendo fans spent years constantly calling Microsoft out as not having any exclusives. So along comes Phil, turns around a sinking ship, and totally changed its business model and it now has umpteen exclusive games.
But look at Sony, they had a massive success last gen on the PS4, so why do they do? They close all their international offices, replace the board at Sony, move all of SCE to the US, ignore their home market, fire or push out the heads that made the PS4 such a success and then try to cancel the PS3 and Vita rather then embrace backwards compatibility.
I think if they left the PS model alone as it was with PS4, rather then rip it up and start again seemingly, they would be in a better position. But stock shortages aren't Sonys fault entirely.

The PS5 is a very capable machine, for me it's just the management that are questionable.

@OneWingedAngel Starfield was never once ever announced for PlayStation, that was entirely a fantasy made up by Sony fans. COD is an established global phenomena in gaming. Look at its sales numbers to see that, I think it'll still be on PS at a price.

@The_Moose haha I think the market and grown ups will trust Microsoft and its team to know what is and isn't sustainable lol.

Hahahaha oh dear talk about knee jerk reaction drama....
COD will be in PS, but I'd expect it to be day and date on Game Pass too...
Nintendo don't seem to like COD these days?

Remember when Phil said, repeatedly, that Sony and Microsoft are not their competition? And Sony fans ridiculed him for that? Do you get it yet?
Microsoft are competing against Netflix, Amazon, Apple, Meta, huge corporations with pockets as deep as there's. And they are moving to a subscription future that sells consoles too. But console sales aren't their main concern.
They are creating their future. COD day and date on Game Pass? £70 on PS5? That's huge.

But it has to pass through global competition commissions first.

I read this then as Nintendo are beating Sony and winning the console war sales, between the Switch and PS5, but the article title is pure utter clickbait. Sales numbers matter not revenue. Sonys machine costs a lot more to make so unless you can break down if So y is making more profit per console then Nintendo are with the Switch, which is doubtful, then it means bugger all if Sony are making more revenue.

@Fatewalker He’s the perfect salesman and CEO, he promotes great value, stress worry free purchasing to drive up sales. And does it so well it sucks many a fan right in, many still defending him and Sony even now, despite the facts he blatantly lied through his teeth to them and has indeed done the total opposite of what he publicly claimed. If that’s what Sony fans want then you deserve to be ripped off.

Wow! Now that’s both original and clever. Never heard of this on an industrial scale though! I suspect they stole all the PS4’s though. Seeing as they are criminals at the end of the day.

@Hakin 😂😂🤣😂🤣🤣😂😂🤣 your one triggered fanboy! Seriously, seek professional help, you have a serious problem with attaching yourself emotionally to plastic inanimate objects. Your hypocritical delusion seems to know no bounds. Be careful not to get your d**k stuck in your PS5's disk drive 🤣🤣😂

@Hakin Seriously, seek help. You are arguing over a plastic box calling others trash because your one totally and utterly deluded blind fanboy. Sony thanks you for the free advertising. Have fun continuing to do so with no pay cheque from them.
Reading your second paragraph your also hilariously utterly hypocritical of yourself too. With your language you must be 12, shouldn't you be in school?

@OmegaStriver I agree that the PS3 and Xbox 360 had the best games generation so far.
Sony needs to start being honest really and stop manipulating things like 'we believe in generations' and then releasing PS5 games on PS4.

@Hakin Complete total utter garbage, spoken like a true blind fanboy. the fact you proclaimed Sony's exclusives outselling Nintendo's is utterly hilarious, come back when Sony manage to keep one of its games in the top ten for months on end like Nintendo does.
And then you go in with the insults, which just demeanours any respect your pathetic argument possessed, quite clear your are blindly signing your allegiance to a particular plastic box, have fun with that.

@Martsmall I think a lot of confused hypocrites are commenting to be honest. And your right, Game Pass seems to be working just fine for Microsoft.
Microsoft brought a new business model to gaming, Sony brought the traditional one. Both are working for now, but when it comes to exclusives it's as you said, they've existed for years and years in gaming and is not new in anyway shape or form.

@arra1213 You really have absolutely no idea what your talking about. It's hilarious reading your posts. Go and Google some more and post your made up crap with no links.
That revenue you posted is not even the bigger revenue you just stated they made in a quarter in your last post, yet now your claiming it's their entire revenue for a year? 😂😂🤣😂🤣😂 you truly are a confused hypocrite.

@arra1213 What article? All you did was type a load of crap you clearly don't understand and twisted it and you just look like a fool. But carry on digging your own hole. Your not quoting earnings from last year as you claim. The rest of your drivel is just an immature fanboy attack. Just makes you look even more like a confused hypocrite.

@JJ2 I never said they were, if you actually read my first comment on here it stated:

"These sales figures will become more and more irrelevant as more games are launched in Game Pass."

Never once stated they were irrelevant now. Don't know why you think otherwise.

@arra1213 Actually that figure is for their third quarter that ended March 2021, it has nothing to do with 'last year', you obviously don't understand what your talking about and did a 10 second Google, and your trying to twist the information do discredit Xbox, you just look foolish instead I'm afraid.

@JJ2 It's like the top ten singles charts, they stopped looking at physical sales as it was pointless and added digital sales, now they look at you tube hits to claim one track is more favourable then another.
These physical game sales charts will be the same, unless they start to include digital sales too and then look at downloaded games like on Game Pass. Or they will become obsolete and present a false picture.

@arra1213 Share U? What? Is your keyboard broken? And your wrong, Microsoft is making record earnings fact. But keep up with the mis-information.

@arra1213 What have you shown there? You typed a comment and are presenting it as fact when you know absolutely nothing. Literally nothing,
You’ve typed, with no proof, a price you ‘claim’ Microsoft spent, and then made some random comment claiming they must be spending millions. When you’ve been to business school come back and comment.

@arra1213 You don't actually know how much money Microsoft is spending though so your comment is mute. You also have no idea how it's business model works, and ignored the fact Microsoft announced record breaking earnings for Xbox the last quarter an I believe the quarter before that. So yeah they are making lots of money it seems, unless your going to accuse them of lying to investors, which is illegal.
Microsoft's model is no longer based purely n physical games sales, yet they are still generating billions in income.

@uptownsoul Obviously that cut is important, but they have a new business model now. They will be making lots of money from it.

@arra1213 That's a salty fan comment. Microsoft haven't announced any sales stats for years. Apple stopped announcing sales figures too, are they also ashamed?
People who make comments like yours clearly have no clue about business models.

Of course they will congratulate each other, they are business partners, in a way a lot of Sony's future relies on Microsoft and its Azure network after all. Sony has no where near the funds to build a state of the art global network like it. And Microsoft I'm sure appreciates the income from the deal and they all like a platform that's dedicated to gaming.
Whilst fanboys fight, you'll probably find these execs like these meet more then you think, they are leading a gigantic global industry that employs hundreds of thousands at the end of the day. A big responsibility.

These sales figures will become more and more irrelevant as more games are launched in Game Pass. Plus whenever the next Zelda Breath Of The Wild is launched it'll be at number one for months probably anyway.

Oh and GT7 is a system seller, they aren't exactly in the habit of making several games in the series every gen... so it really should have been a PS5 exclusive, but now I won't be at all surprised to see it on PC also in 2 or 3 years.

@truerbluer Microsoft has been very smart, they know there markets and it includes PC, so they have embraced all markets and new ones, mobile, with innovative services like Game Pass and Remote Play. Sony are visibly unable to compete with that, they are going to bring their games to PC, but try and keep the console exclusivity for a year or two first? And as you said that won't work and will annoy many console gamers, especially at £70 a game!
In essence with Microsoft you know exactly where you stand, with Sony you haven't a clue as they will lie and deceive you, and later admit they are doing the same thing as Microsoft.
To me that's the issue, Sony REALLY need to be up front and straight with people. Many love their games and console, but they'll be turned away if you lie and deceive them for profit.

I’m glad Microsoft got it right day one, and just stated what Sony are now doing. Because it gains them trust, and loses it for Sony.

Well.. it'll certainly be interesting to see how technically it's true PS5 exclusive games stack up to its cross gen ones. Gran Turismo is a game that really should be a PS5 exclusive.

But of course they lied, that's Sony now and Ryan, they saw an opportunity to discredit the competition and it's come back to bite them in the arse and make them look the fools they are.

The way they were going to kill off the Vita, and didn't tell anyone still making games for it. And now this, says it all. Sony is a deceitful company.

To me it looked the same as the first game, graphics a bit better, but it seemed slow and clunky. Also it reminded so much of Uncharted but worst snd looked like it played like another generic Sony third person action game. Wasn’t impressed. And I don’t know if it was the stream but I saw it jerking a lot too. I never did like the first game for the same reasons though. I’m more of an Uncharted fan. I find the story and script boring and a bit forced with Horizon.