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@get2sammyb Don't listen to @ShogunRok, you will love it!

@Fight_Teza_Fight I feel Sony needs to be careful how they manage this now that they've set a precedent. It's one thing doing a mid-way upgrade when no one was expecting one when PS4 launched, and another when PS5 launches and people may be holding onto their PS4s (and Pros) for longer waiting for a mid-way upgrade. I, for one, can easily see myself catching up on all those games I will miss for years to come, patiently waiting for a PS5 Pro to come out. I think this may draw out the overlap of generations to a greater degree.

Middle-earth Shadow of Mordor. A gem of a game that I've somehow missed, really enjoying it and plays smooth as butter on PS4 Pro (looking great, too).

@kyleforrester87 Same.

I've ordered Shadow of Mordor, which was on my list for ages and should keep me entertained until FFXV releases. I haven't actually got a game that would take advantage of PS4 Pro capabilities, so that will be the first one. Looking forward to getting stuck in later!

Can't wait, why is GAME not calling me yet that it's ready to be picked up...

They need to promote it there more because of how poorly PS4s sell over there compared to the West.

Yay, that's the news I've been waiting for.

Went to GAME this morning to do a trade-in. They couldn't test my console as needed more people (will happen later) but it's important to know that factory reset is not enough, you need to log out and then do it. Once they get round to testing it they will give me a ring to give them the password to my account (sic!) so that they can do it. Thought someone could find it helpful.

Of course, this means another trip to the store later as I haven't got the console.

@kyleforrester87 Sold. But, you know, #FFXV...

I want to get this at some point but am struggling to see the appeal of the game. Open world, which I am not keen on, not great combat and quest structure. However, varied builds and streamlined experience is what I like, which sounds different to Witcher 3, which I've been struggling with whilst wanting to love it.

As a PS4 Pro convert, I kind of want the games to work very well on the base PS4 - for all those other gamers, of course, but to absolutely guarantee that my game will run smoothly, with or without the bells and whistles etc., which is my main reason for getting one. Jittery FFXV will just not cut it, it needs to be super smooth and as beautiful as can be (admittedly, 'only' on a good HDTV). I will see how I go and decide later whether to add PSVR and/or 4K+HDR TV t the set.

God Eater 2: Rage Burst, still, on PS4. Great MH clone.

Square Enix sent me an email yesterday saying they will charge my card for the Ultimate Collection; it's really happening. Now I need Ps4 Pro and every spare moment I will spent playing this, can't wait! The video is beyond awesome BTW.

@NomNom Same here, had to have that soundtrack. As for the video above, damn, this game is stylish.

That's a pretty cool idea. I think it's Square Enix' way of saying: we've done away with cutesy for this game, folks!

Despite not having a 4K TV, this is why I'm getting PS4 Pro. Can't wait!

@get2sammyb Haven't seen a demo booth, the GAME I went to was in Bullring, and it's quite small.

Went there just today to pre-order PS4 Pro, which you have to do for the trade-in deal. It was absolutely packed (B'ham), with long queues etc. It must be doing something right. Apart from that, never had a need to set foot in there.

To be honest, I would pay for the demo! If that's the only way for me to experience VR before spending XYZ amount of money for the whole kit, I would be happy to oblige.

The problem with Vita was console-level pricing whilst being an indie games haven. No problem with either, but something's got to give in a given scenario. If the market also happens to be smaller then you really need to get it right. If there's a company that can do it, it's Nintendo (why? The games!), and despite not being a fan I am interested in this, if only to get another Xenoblade.

Now that's the killer app the public has been waiting for!

Thanks guys, if only SSD were a bit cheaper...

Can someone please explain to me how is up to 3 gig per sec more than 6 in real life terms; surely it doesn't make that much difference as that is pretty fast anyway...?

@adf, kyle - I'm doing the same, and have a 1080 (Sony) TV, too.

I was not interested in this game, despite being a massive FF fan (looking forward to XV!) but will give this demo a go and decide then; who knows, maybe I'll enjoy it?

I was wondering one thing: does the display look detachable to, for example, upgrade the screen when a better one comes out? You say the weight is distributed by the headband, which suggests majority of the circuitry being in there, hence asking?

I would like to see this list with genres as headings, would help me see if there's anything in the ones I like?

I am close to being on the fence with this but for now I am firmly over the 'not for me' side. I'd had a preorder but cancelled long time ago and this review is not giving me confidence that I should shell out this amount of cash for a VR experience yet. I think I'll wait for a revision by which point more games will be available that may grab my interest, not tech demos regardless of how great they may be.

LOL at the tagline.

If I saw space battles in a trailer and bought the game for that, because I happen to love that kind of thing, I would be pretty angry at not being able to experience that in the final product. Of course you don't buy a game for one gameplay mechanic only, but you may buy it over another game due to that one element, it affects your decision making when comparing etc. and we all do it all the time.

@Feena LOL at the last sentence, so true though. I am still looking forward to this. I think the personalities I think will carry this through are the summons/giants. I have a feeling a lot of the story's punch will come from them.

Ah, great to hear I can actually back up easily. I think I will take half a day off work to get Ps4 Pro from GAME on 10th November (not confident they will still be there by 16th).

I want to take advantage of the GAME offer, too, and am interested in finding a way to transfer everything...

I noticed this a couple of days ago and am interested. Have some games I could get rid of at the same time, maybe having to buy 1-2 really cheap ones just to make up the numbers (don't really want to give Witcher 3 away). I think I'm in.

The OST is outstanding, too!

Can't wait

Any trade-in deals anywhere?

@AFCC Same here.

Trials of Cold Steel?

I think this is a fine idea, but the problem with FFXIII highlights the issue I have with it: where are the games I actually want to play? All the good ones will be remastered so are less (or un-) likely to appear in their original guise. This, coupled with truly excellent current generation of games makes for a hard sell. I don't know a gamer who wouldn't have a huge backlog of games; this is a generation of backlogs (Pushsquare should do an article on that).

@ShogunRok What's the enemy variety?

Edit: also, how does the Vita version fare, let's say: framerate-wise?

You gotta love the comments: "there's something very wrong with FFXV but I can't really put my finger on it". I get it, it's been 10 years in the making. Yes, the game will not be perfect. No game is. The majority of those who waited a long time for this game are of a certain age; are there any truly mind-blowing games these days? We're past that stage I think (of maturity, I daresay), expecting it from this game is just setting yourself up for a huge dissapointment.
Personally, I like what I see with FFXV, it has the elements of games I enjoy so will enjoy this one, but it won't blow me away: games don't do that for me these days (although summoning Ramuh in the Duscae demo came damn close!).

@rjejr Haha!

Hmm, I am on long holidays in December so am now thinking of not actually playing it until I'm back in January. That way patches will have been deployed and I will make the most of the delay. Don't really want to start it, get into it and then have a long break!

I am hoping to see some kind of trade in arrangement, where it will be possible to replace the old PS4 with new for a reduced price. The market will be flooded with second-hand models making buying new old models harder, so that could help Sony control the negative trend somewhat. On the the other hand, what would they do with all the old PS4s collected that way?

PSVR support and I am in.

And I think it would actually make sense. Why? Sony rules this generation gaming-wise; They'd had a very successful handheld, and then the Vita, which was marketed all wrong (high-end gaming on the go, which just didn't sell, people need games to jump in and out of on the go) but hardly a TOTAL flop. Putting these things together, lessons learned if you like, they are in a great position to release another handheld. I think they will do something, eventually.

The sleeve looks green, just sayin'.

What did the critics say about Toukiden 2, any idea?

Woo-hoo, excited for this one!

I got the Ultimate package, I am assuming I'm getting this as well since it's a lot more expensive!