kevinm360

Casualties of the modern approach of "I'll wait until its on Game Pass/PS Plus", at least for me.

Banishers: Ghosts of New Eden looks good and is on my wishlist, and I've been playing Dontnod games since Remember Me (ironically also via PS Plus).

@B_Lindz by all means, I don't agree that its worth the price either, but was just acknowledging that he did state himself that he knows it won't be affordable for many.

These millionaires view video games as a luxury and would probably shrug at us and say that this console isn't for us if we can't afford it. Similar case when Don Mattrick said Xbox players without an internet connection should stick with the 360 instead of buying the Xbox One. They justify it as it being aimed at a different audience from us (whether that audience actually exists or not is another thing)

@Oz_Who_Dat_Dare PS generally have a good market share in the UK, but the majority of players are still buying PS4 versions of software. I think with games starting to drop support for last gen, Sony will try push the PS5 Pro towards people as a better upgrade than if they were to move to the PS5 now. (PS4 Pro and Slim done better than the OG model here)

@Oz_Who_Dat_Dare I'm in the same boat, I will "sadly" be missing out on PS5 Pro and keeping the money aside for a PS6 when the time comes. Buying the Pro at that price (regardless of benefits) feels worse than double-dipping, especially when there isn't a selection of games "Only playable on PS5 Pro".

@Oz_Who_Dat_Dare

For comparison, the complete set in the UK is 1607 Australian dollarydoos as well. Ridiculous, eh?

@B_Lindz in the quote, he does acknowledge it won't be affordable for everyone, but just that the console is worth the price of admission, essentially.

In the UK, for the total including the PS5 Pro, the disc drive, and stand, the complete set costs $1,085 U.S (inclusive of tax)

Prospective buyers or scalpers? I guess we'll find out when the console launches.

(I wonder if scalpers will buy PS5 Pro stock and struggle to move it)

This analysis is 100% based on the trends and comparison with the PS4 Pro.

However, the economic climate is different from 2016, so they cant assume that a 40% price hike over PS5 for a Pro will do similar performance as a 33% hike over a significantly cheaper PS4.

Ontop of this, the PS4 Pro launched at the price the PS4 launched at pre-price cut. The PS5 has not only been shy of a price cut, but has increased in price during its lifetime.

Going with my own individual experience as well, I own two PS4 Pros in addition to my base PS5, and have no intention to upgrade to a PS5 Pro. I'm confident there will be a large portion of PS4 Pro purchasers who wouldn't fork out for the PS5 Pro for the little benefit it has over a standard PS5. (Especially if, like myself, they've bought and installed a 2TB M.2 drive into their launch PS5 already)

While I'm not this dedicated myself, I've got to give them credit where its due. They formed a bond with like-minded people over a shared passion.

Regardless of what it means for the grand scheme of things, this trophy and this experience means something to these people and they've probably created a memory and story that will last with them, even if we don't all understand or appreciate it ourselves.

@get2sammyb You don't have to have an active (live) connection (to a service) to play many of those games you've used as examples.

If anything, these games are just games with downloadable updates, online features, or (at a stretch) "live service" elements.

Regardless of when a single player game is updated with new content post-release, it isnt live service as you don't need to log into an online service and have an active connection in order to play it.

A nice attempt at bait though.