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@Athrum My thought as well. Just the same baren area. The world isnt exciting me yet.

I think they key here is to understand what he meant by hard core gamers. And to me, that is gamers who are willing to pay more to get more, for example PC gamers. You just don't plunk down 1-2k(usd) on a gaming system and not consider yourself a hard core gamer. It DOESN'T mean you are 100% obsessed with only top end games, in fact many will play a high end game one day and a steam indie the next. So it won't be just AAA games.

This is why I believe it will be between the $599-$699(usd) price range. Ive said this many times in the past but smart phones are regularly in the 1k range and paying a lot for a pc for gaming is growing every day. Look at how many people spend so much money on fancy high end giant TVs now and those are not cheap either.

Can't tell me if a lot of people are willing to spend so much on those items there isn't many who would spend a lot on a console. Plus with backward compatibility most will sell old ps4 to cover the price increase.

I think it is a different world now for spending than it was when the ps4 was launched and the 'Ps5' will be a hit, even if more expensive.

Hope it has pool and mini golf. I think I spent more time in them in coop than the main game.

Not sure how anyone can get excited by that. Cutscenes, slow walking in empty building and a simplistic VR training room.

This could be a good game but between this and the lackluster powers demo vids I really need to see many full detailed reviews on this game. Gut says short and repetative gameplay will drop my interest. We'll see.

RDR2 looked amazing but there was no pc version to compare it to. However, in this case, they already said said the PC version will blow the console version away. Get a feeling many will be looking towards the next gen ps/xb because they will see it's potential at launch. This is why they don't want to say there will be a next gen version to avoid losing sales.

Why does it have to have clunky pixel retro graphics? I really hate that and sick of this trend. They could make it look as good as the animation they show in the video.

It sounds like the same complaint from everybody is repetitive sequences. Surely this is something they can fix if they wanted.

If they can shave off some of repetition it may be shorter but more heartfelt experience like Edith Finch.

I still say $599 - $699. Times have changed since the ps4 launch and $1,000 phones are now the norm. Yes on contract, but nobody said stores won't start offering contracts on these either. All big box chains can easily set up exact same month contracts on these as well. Besides, in other countries it is common to buy phones off contract at full price. This still is cheaper than high end phones.

Plus with backward compatibility you can sell your old system and make up the difference of the extra cost. If sell my old system with a game or two the Ps5(The Playstation) will around as cheap as the ps4 at launch, even if at $699 for the new one.

I don't think this was a cave to pressure. In the Asia PlayStation market the PES announcement was accepted far better than in North America. Since we often have different games than you, it would not make sense to switch it here based on reaction there. The fact it got switched implies there was something else at play behind the choice to swap it for DBH at the last second. Legal reasons most likely.

You mean a company that's going to release a new console is against this? Shocking.

I don't think even Google believes it is the complete answer for everybody either. But it has to start somewhere.

I've been say it will cost more and still believe it. And I agree, Playstation is the perfect name for it. Not like anybody will confuse it with the original. Besides, this will be the last traditional console they have(aside from things like slim models). I think we will see Playstation and Xbox as final names for both.

In Asia we get Pes and Aegis defender. Not interested in either of those.

Looks like a fun enough of a Star Wars Uncharted game. I doubt it will be game of the year but looks entertaining and that's pretty much all that matters.

I really don't like the idea of metroid back tracking though. It doesn't look exciting enough to want to keep revisiting old levels. I wouldn't want to keep doing it on Uncharted and don't want to here. Depending how much of it there is and how much is required to win will decide if I get it.

I'll miss loading screens. When am I supposed to go pee or get snacks? Pause the game like animals? Pfft.

Feels like padding to me. Enemies will respawn so you are doing same levels over and over again just to get to something plot related or just a trinket.

Plus it could be really annoying. "Oh I can't get there till I get force leap" Comes back after force leap "Oh now I need force bend over here" comes back later with force bend. "Oh now I need force soothe for this beast" (three days later) "Dang, where was I supposed to use force soothe again???" Wonder how many times we will say "I went through all that for this?"

Its funny that great for the consumer is a bad thing in his eyes. Not worrying about hardware and focusing on making a great game is a win for everybody.

This is a game that requires a demo. I grew up seeing these games and even played the original at launch. But I have no idea if it will be funny because dirty humor is very subjective. No way will I risk money on this no matter what anybody on the internet says. I need to see some humor for my self.

That was misleading and was said to make sure you dont skip the PS4 version and wait for the PS5 version. By the time the game releases they know the PS5 will be officially announced and know a lot of people will be thinking "Hmm get this version or wait for PS5 version?" Hint, they don't want you to wait.

What they haven't decided yet is if it will be a free or cheap upgrade patch for the PS5 or a whole new version.

But did those games need E3? Nope. Would everybody still be talking about Keanu if this was just a live stream? Yep.

I never understood the console war. Why waste time hating on another console? I find places like Digital Foundry just makes it worse. Comparing fps between systems is one thing but I hate when they compare graphic quality. They will show the game side by side and they look the same but then slow it down 300% and zoom in 25x and say "look at this blurry edge of a leaf, see how it has a slight shadow. Its better on console a". I don't bother watching anymore as I don't play my games zoomed in 25x.

Funnny how those who applaud them for making it 1st ppov and find it better and more immersive have no issue with the vehicle part 3rd ppov. If 1st ppov is so great then the car section should be that way as well.

No, this is 100% blame on the E3 and marketing teams at game companies. You can't blame people for analyzing what they show.

Marketing teams feel they have to impress in E3 or fall badly. So much competition they must do all they can to stand out in the crowd. Thats why we get set up gameplay.

E3 is to blame because it forces game makers to show something that may not be ready to be seen. It puts an artificial release time table of 'show it now or miss the hype train'.

If E3 was gone and companies had live streams or gameplay vids when they were ready to show things would be better.

Its done. Nothing was accomplished at E3 that couldn't be done by a live stream on YouTube. Better still they can do that when they actually have something to show when they are ready to show it.

If you use a stun gun how do you know they don't have a heart condition and it kills them anyway?

I couldn't care less for non lethal. They are not real so does it matter if they are knocked out or dead? It's not like they will get up and go back to their family.

I only care about stealthy kills vs loud bang bang kills and I love stealth kills in games.

This is why the era of E3 is done. No need to force an announcement at some forced time when you are not ready. YouTube allows all these companies to release stuff when it fits their time line.

I'd rather have better graphics and lower resolution than higher resolution and worse graphics. Fancy thing like better lighting systems have a far bigger visual impact than jumping up to 4k.

Looks cool but here is my problem. The characters get levels after you recruit them(level 15 hacker or. Level 7 assassin) and a blue progress bar below it so it seems like you can pick anybody and level them in anyway you want so you can always pick the right character for the job. Some are better for certain paths by their inherent bonuses.

So does that mean you have to level everybody up? It showed permadeath for your characters so if you lose your high level hacker you need to level up a new one? Im sure all characters have all basic skills. But if you lose one with a great bonus and advanced 'hacking tree' then you'd want to find another. This could be tedious. Could mean opportunities for Uni to sell micro transactions to speed up that process.

Plus I get a feeling masks will be the big cosmetic purchase for this game.

Just odd how the biggest part of their showing with a celebrity is for a game that is also on PS4.

Biggest problem for me is that the environment didn't seem all that exciting. It's good enough, but the Metroid game design of constant back tracking will make an average level design tiresome after time.

Yawn. Thx

Two games im not a fan of are Metroid and Dark souls. So this one may be off my list for good. But as a SW fan I will watch a lot of in-depth reviews to see how it came out in the end.

Why is it that standard level of good graphics are just considered ok but "retro" graphics from 20years ago are awesome?

Hoping Pong and Pac man

@Jacnec Hmmm. Good options as well. I could see Dalton more so than Hunnam though.

I may be in the minority but I kinda hope this is like an Uncharted game in the Star Wars universe. I think that would be incredibly fun. They trailer made me feel It will be like that.

Back in the day Nathon Fillion would have been great but not now. (Although he is entertaining in Rookie)

But Holland is too young and small for the roll unless it's Uncharted:Drake's Senior Year.

Who would I pick now? Hmm... Tom Hardy.

Take it down. Fix it, and relaunch it as f2p with good content to buy.

Honestly after Todd's straight up BS pr events for fallout 76, his Elder mobile game and his completely delusion recent interview with IGN I believe he alone is the reason why Bethesda has been failing. He tarnished their reputation and won't trust the Bethesda name until he's gone.

@Nightcrawler71 It's free to play so why wait for a review? Go try it for yourself.

Still think it will play like Messiah.Talking over people for short amount of time to accomplish things.

Is it really a big deal to skip E3 anymore? Do we want them there if their game is years away so they can show a trailer reveal that shows either no gameplay or gameplay that will be down graded by launch?

E3 is just pointless. It just forces companies to make a special reveal at an arbitrary time that has nothing to do with their development schedule. They will reveal it when it is ready to be seen or when the PS5 official reveal happens.

@get2sammyb Could be a take on the old Messiah game. For those who dont remember or too young, in that game you are a cherub who goes around possessing people to do his bidding(make guards shoot each other, open doors, turn off security etc). Could be the same here but hacking peoples implanted tech as you said.

Basically he said all gaas games suck at launch and so he thought it was ok if his did as well. What complete and utter garbage.

This is why EVERY gamer and EVERY game news site and EVERY gaming youtuber must stand up and tell others one thing:NEVER PREORDER A GAAS GAME.

Seriously, this has to be our mantra by ALL of us if we want things to change. If nobody preorders and the game turns out like this then they deserve to fail. If it's good then we can all rush to buy it.

But WE, the gamers, are the only ones who can stop it.

Hong Kong getting price increase on all 3 memberships as well.

@MattSilverado Nothing wrong with long.

"... On a 500 box..."

I keep telling people I don't think it will be $500. When the ps4 first came out it was not common for smartphones to cost $1000. Now a new $1000 smartphone comes out every month it seems. People are used to this price tag and this is for an item that is expected to be upgraded in two years.

Yes I know people buy phones often on plans so they don't buy it outright. But a higher price will start to be acceptable, and stores may have plans like on phones.

And no, I don't think it will be 1k. But $699 wouldn't surprise me.

I couldn't care less and I don't see the point. Any company can release and get publicity on sites like this or others. How is it beneficial to have a mass dump at once? It's a new world and e3 no longer necessary.

The only good part of E3 is when we see those E3 vs retail videos so we can see how big of a scam some marketing departments are (cough)Anthem (cough). But perhaps these companies wouldn't feel a need to do this anymore if they weren't locked into a big show date and had to blow away the competition.

@MattSilverado From how I understand it, it is more like a pc in terms of same architecture just much faster. So normally when they went from ps3 to ps4 they had to relearn a new system and can't push the new games to the limit yet. In this case with the ps5, however, I believe it is the situation of mostly just making a ps4 games better(of course some new changes as well).

So like on pc when you get that next gen pc graphics card but in this case it's like 3-4 gens ahead of the last card. This should allow current ps4 developers to jump right into making things look much much better instead of figuring out how to do it.

Unless I am understanding how the ps5 works, somebody can correct me if I'm wrong.

Nothing in cata interested me to play. Honestly, the ONLY thing that would get me to play would be going F2P. But they don't have enough quality things for people to buy to make it worth while.

Delayed so they can add 3rd ppov? Yes!!!

Ok, sigh, im dreaming again.

I'm honestly can't see how people rush to day one purchase anymore. Does it look interesting, yep. But we still know so little. We know of vehicles but what of the world itself. So many open world games fail due to bland emptiness of the world between interesting parts and we see nothing yet that says that's not the case here as well.

I'm interested for sure, but I need to see far more of the world to know if it's interesting or not. But so far I have no clue and could be boring. And this is being said by a person who never fast travelled in RDR2 because I loved exploring the world. I hope it's great, but for now I'm not sold.

But really, "As Sam Porter Bridges, you will attempt to bridge the divides in society" Did they really have to go there with the name?