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@Fiendish-Beaver so "ONLY console to play" becomes "ONLY high-end console to play" I see.
It's a damn shame they don't see Nintendo as competition, because they certainly are. It's like saying hey BMW and Mercedes shouldn't worry about Toyota because BMW/Mercedes is a different league to Toyota. Yet Toyota will outsell them either way.
And if Nintendo can go and do their own thing with zero competition, then why can't playstation.
Funny you give Last of Us and God of War as examples as Playstation is the only console you can play those games on already.. oh and they're on PC too.
You literally said yourself if people couldn't afford playstation they'd play Nintendo if it's all they could afford. You explained yourself why playstation wouldn't price their consoles/games to astronomical prices, because nobody would buy them, and they'd just choose to miss out on the "high quality titles". Then guess what.. Sony loses loads of money.
I know why they've increased prices to £70, because games development costs more than ever before. Services go up because prices of everything everywhere are going up.
Of course playstation could do as they please if they were on their own. But people vote with their wallet, and they'd still have to be in the realm of affordability to still exist.

This is without even going into the rise of the steam deck. There's no reason why Valve wouldn't try to launch a Linux based home console. Developers are even optimising games for steam deck now. No one cared about SteamMachines because they were just crap pre-builds. If they made one box of hardware for home console gaming, run on SteamOS, it could quickly become the new Xbox.

@Fiendish-Beaver did you just forget that Nintendo exists? You know, the company with the console that actually sells the most units.

@nomither6 oh yeah for sure, I agree with you on that. I had x360 for about 10-11 years. Halo 3 and FM4 made it worth it. Dad eventually got a PS3 and I enjoyed all the Naughty Dog games. PS3 felt more grown-up, x360 seemed directly targeted at teenagers lol. If you didn't own both consoles you were definitely missing out on something

@nomither6 well yeah PSN wasn't worth charging money for, that's why they didn't. You also had to buy a WiFi dongle for the OG Xbox 360, so £50 for that on top of paying for Xbox live just to play games online was a bit ridiculous, especially when it was free on PS3 and PC. Not justifying the hacking, just saying both had less than desirable online.

And I don't really believe X360 facilitated the changeable harddrive, considering the PS1 and PS2, GameCube, etc were using memory cards..
I understand the convenience aspect but I'll always prefer the slightly more inconvenient option that isn't proprietary, to the simple proprietary option. I also find it ironic how angry everyone was at PS for proprietary Vita storage just no one ever cared about X360 harddrive, or the Series SSD expansion

@nomither6 PSN was free at least which was greatly appreciated, and PS3 also had changeable hard drives, which weren't a proprietary format

@Fiendish-Beaver I don't think a game like Starfield would even survive without PC, and good old Redfall is garbage, so I think you're right in saying that ship has sailed. I don't think what they need is acquisitions but rather to actually screw their head on and make some half decent games.

@Americansamurai1 that's true. I was in middle school at that time lol, so all I knew was PS3 was too expensive. But eventually with the slim/super slim it was cheap enough for my dad to get one for himself and I ended up liking it a bit more than my 360

It's honestly very surprising considering how similar the hardware is and how they both have exclusives. I don't think it's really to do with cloud or PC as the number of casual console players outnumbers PC players by a lot, and still yet to find anyone who cares about cloud gaming.

@Americansamurai1 PS3 sold more units overall, they were not leading by sales but definitely lead culturally.

With the absolute monumental amount of effort it takes to make car models these days, I'd say 7 of them is certainly a newsworthy update. They're not just recycling models as per certain other racing franchises.
Very excited for the LFA, hope the sound design is good, that car certainly deserves it

@Spider-Kev modular disc drive. + two front usb-c, and a bit smaller. Hopefully new fan and PSU but we'll see

@tofuman86 context?

@Haruki_NLI Disc Drives have circuit boards on them already, and the detachable drive will definitely have some kind of proprietary connection. The drive definitely won't connect to the internet itself.
My assumption would be it scans for a code on the PCB and checks it against a database, but that could totally be done offline.
It says "upon set-up" which adds a lot of confusion to how it would actually work. Do we have to register the disc drive or something? Who knows

On the one hand, the removal drive makes the actual drive much easier to repair if it's a failure of a gear or motor, but on the other hand there is now no way to play a PS5 fully offline. Of course fully offline gaming is very difficult these days, but why do we have to use the official disc drive? Piracy, malware, or something? There's probably a logical reason but it seems dumb.

@Tr3mm0r that's probably a good thing, ps4 slim was a lot better imo. I kind of wish I waited for ps5 slim though, few issues on my ps5 that hopefully the slim solves

@Tr3mm0r yes, that is how the slim works in every single generation.

@Bionic-Spencer CDPR have already stated they're not interested

It'll probably look dope in black. As all PlayStation's do. Hopefully PS6 goes back to PS4 or PS3 colour theming.

@LifeGirl the only people making TLOU2 controversial were some sweaty neckbeards on the internet. Literally no one in the real world gave a *****

@BusyOlf Subscriptions for music makes a lot of sense. It's gets very expensive very fast. I used to be adamant about buying all my music, but eventually gave up and got Tidal instead because they pay better royalties (I still occasionally buy physical music). However, with games and TV movies, yeah it doesn't make sense to me. I just rent most movies off Amazon.

Speaking of renting, digital game rental sounds kinda interesting..

@Arnna the Arkham style fighting is very popular. I like both, I don't think the souls style fighting is better, just different. Arkham style is definitely better suited to more causal games like Spiderman

@rjejr oh ok interesting. I just assumed 40fps was a happy medium between 30-60fps. Didn't really know it had much to do with 120hz. I feel like to someone like me I wouldn't even notice the difference. 120hz in big TVs is still quite rare though isn't it? Unless the TV world has changed a lot in 3 years

@rjejr sorry? 40fps TV? What do you mean

@JayJ yeah can't argue with that. I really like the customisation of the console though. You win some you lose some.

@SegaBlueSky Huh? The platform where the X only comes in black, and the S in black or white? VS PS5s now 9 different colours?
They have some cool controllers but when it comes to the consoles, there's nothing

Feels very PS2. In the best possible way.
Was going to just get the black plates to have a stealthy PS5 but the silver looks great. The blue I want to see in person first

@Cherip-the-Ripper no I sold my xbone

@Cherip-the-Ripper no not at all. In fact a lot of the models were recycled since FM4. People have noticed the same inaccuracies in cars models in every game (Silvia s15 for example)

@Cherip-the-Ripper well it starts with FM5 being a huge downgrade from 4. 300 less cars, only 20 locations, and changes to the career mode. From there, 6 and 7 are simply trying to get back to how good 4 was. The lack of environments in the new game (20 VS FM7's 33), and the weird RPG leveling system instead of just using credits like every other racing game on the planet, are my two biggest concerns. For me though I'd have to buy a Series console so it's a lot more money for me VS someone who already has one who wouldn't be as fussy. I did buy an xbone just for the Forza games but was a bit disappointed and regretted buying it, and don't want to repeat that mistake

@Cashews FM4 is absolutely god tier. One of the best.

@cburg do Facebook fan groups and Twitter users count as citations? Lol.

@UltimateOtaku91 PS fans been spoilt rotten the last generation and now get upset when there aren't as many games or other platforms are getting good games

@Cashews dunno why you have to act like that, I was just saying. I care a lot more about what fans think than publications. I'm a huge racing game fan and have every reason to want Forza to be good, but I've been disappointed since FM4 and the reboot isn't looking so good.

@Cashews Forza has already been criticized heavily by fans for it's weird gray graphics, reusing old incorrect car models, a lack of tracks at launch, and the weird nonsense RPG elements. It'll probably be forgotten about after a few weeks like every Forza Motorsport game after 4

@Shepherd_Tallon wow that's a lot of ratchet and clank games. I haven't played a single one yet! Been meaning to play rifts apart but haven't got around to it.
I don't have any form of Xbox anymore so I have even third party games to catch up on PS3! Will take a while. At least the games are cheap

@Shepherd_Tallon Same here. I had the 360 and had no plans on changing but my dad ended up getting a PS3 slim on a whim. We got uncharted and the last of us and yeah they were fantastic games my whole family enjoyed playing. My 360 died, got another one but never quite got back into games until I got a PS4. My dad gave me his PS3 so now I get to go back and enjoy some of the other games I missed out on

@Shepherd_Tallon Yeah and I hope they don't stop making them. People seem to complain about the Portal a lot, almost forgetting they can just not buy it... and let the small group of people who will buy it enjoy it.

I forgot about PS move. But I kinda love that Sony is willing to try new things (well move just copied Wii but still) like move, PS TV, PSVR/2 and probably the PS portal, that are very niche and probably won't make much money

@NinjaNicky so you have to ignore everything that makes a game good, to enjoy it? Lol

This is one of those games I really should hate as it has a lot of things I dislike (turn based, long campaign, lots and lots of dialogue) but the very high praise makes me want to try it. So will wait for a sale I think as I have a feeling I won't enjoy it

Generation Zero is something I've always been curious about but never wanted to spend my money on so I'll give that a try.
As a huge fan of saints row 1+2 I'm still salty about 3+4, so I don't feel positive towards the reboot. But maybe I should give it a try.
As for Black Desert I avoid MMOs like the plague as it'll probably consume my life

I don't enjoy turn based, long campaigns, or lots of talking, so on paper I should hate this game but it looks pretty good so .. yeah I'm not sure

@Bionic-Spencer MS did try to literally double the price of Gold a few years ago, and was met with so much backlash they reversed it and made F2P games actually free to play

I went on there to wishlist it so I get notified when it goes on sale.

One thing bothering me which makes me think it's completely fake, is the hole for the stand. The physical and digital versions of the PS5 use different stands, given the different widths of the base of the PS5. So then, if the disc drive is detachable, you would need to use a different stand to stand it vertically? And depending on what side it lays on, even to use it horizontally. So you'd need to remove the disc drive, change the plate, then use a different stand?
Unless, they use a massive plate when there's no disc drive, so it has the same stand, but at that point, what's even the point? Surely they could've found other ways to cut costs and just sell a disc version only for £400.
It just seems very strange.

@theSpectre I don't think Sony has to react at all by acquisitions. That's even if any publisher wants to be acquired by Sony at all. Sony shouldn't retaliate. If they simply focus on delivering amazing 1st party titles, they won't be going anyway. Any further acquisitions from MS will be under heavy scrutiny

@theSpectre I wasn't on about exclusives here, rather than all the people saying who they'll buy next, without much regard to wether those publishers/developers actually put themselves up for sale or not. The same goes for those arguing Sony will by Square Enix, Capcom, etc. And I wouldn't be happy if Sony did, I'm fully against the Bethesda and Activision acquisitions, why would I be ok with Sony doing it? Developer acquisitions like Obsidian make perfect sense, even though it's probably the biggest loss to me, I can't really argue against it at all.

@theSpectre ZeniMax was for sale as they were struggling to make a profit. Same thing goes for Obsidian Entertainment. Activision needed a distraction from all it's internal *****. I can't see any profitable publishers losing out on the huge market share of PS for instant cash from MS. But maybe I don't know enough

It comes full circle, first Nintendo say no to a CD attachment from Sony, then 5 generations later they get to make their own

@Sakai because they redesign the console halfway through every generation