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@HonestHick Sea of thieves, the same game that had 58% of it's PS players stop playing after less than a month.
Concord sucks, but Helldivers 2 was a massive success. Sony are simply taking risks. I'd rather see a great game come out of several bad ones than many mediocre games.
But as you said, to each their own.

@HonestHick I don't want Microsoft's garbage live service games either. The best online games are always third-party multiplatforms

@HonestHick ...my entire point was that there has only been ONE sony studio online game so far...

I was not saying they have been successful or not. Only that only one exists so far and it's been an astounding failure. How the hell did you come up with the idea that I was supporting them?

The design looks like it'll use the slims face plates even if the console is bigger

I dont know if everyone so angry over a bunch of rumours is sad or hilarious

Give me strength

@HonestHick You specifically said Sony's own studio games. Not anything to do with games they invested in.

Really didn't enjoy cyberpunk. Just felt really boring and shallow. Some of the least satisfying combat I've ever experienced in a game. So many other games do the cyberpunk genre justice and 2077 felt like a teenager's interpretation of the cyberpunk genre

@HonestHick ah yes, Sony studios online games, such as.. uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh what exactly

@z0d15g0d I don't think you should hit on your colleagues, though.
I understand social awkwardness very well (hey, that's me), but I still am very aware of workplace boundaries

@Mortal well that sucks.

@Sequel it's still extraction. Don't know where you heard hero shooter from

Absolutely love the Taiko series. Played the rhythm adventure game recently and it's such a goofy game but brilliant fun.

If you've spent any time in Japan you know that this is abhorrently expensive. Things in general are very cheap in Japan, and salaries are relatively low, so this is the equivalent of the PS5 being $800 thereabouts in the west.

Sony need to sort it out, I understand hardware is sold at a loss but I suppose they're not making enough software to cover it.

I usually tolerate this s**t because business is business but this will only hurt them

I'll be buying that map off Ebay I think.

200 Groschen? Bloody hell, that's a bit much.

@arzis100193 Yeah I agree with all of your points really. We are really hitting a wall of diminishing returns in terms of performance, it will take a big increase in hardware to make a small increase in performance. I do hope the next gen will focus on making consoles smaller and more efficient, although I think that will require physical media to change.

One thing I don't like about this gen is having to pick between graphics and performance modes. Having a pro might do both, and I'd be happy with that.

My issue with the Switch and PC handhelds (Steam deck, Asus Ally) is they're massive. They're not really that portable. The PSP/Vita or GameBoy/DS I could put in my pocket.
So I do think there is a gap in the market for a genuinely portable console.

If it could run PS4 games without needing any sort of developer optimisation, I would be 100% all for it. Although that would mean we never get any new releases for it

@arzis100193 from what I've read, PS5 gets priority from developers over Xbox, hence why so many games perform better on PS5 at launch despite not being as powerful on paper. Xbox usually catches up after a few patches though. And because of this, I think developers will be prioritising PS5 and PS5 Pro so the series S isn't going to hold them back as it's more of a secondary thought.

PS5 Pro will have to hit 60fps in most games for people to even consider buying it. As for graphics, there isn't much more they can do other than resolution, and most games are running 4k or close to it, so I understand your point there. They can potentially increase textures and lighting but that adds a lot of complexity for the developer.

I agree with you as well that the PS4 needs to be left behind now. This generation has been slowed down by crossgen releases.
Personally I still would like a pro, because in 4 more years I know the releases are going to struggle on PS5 as we look towards PS6... unless this generation is going to last a lot longer than we thought

This serves me mostly as reminder that I haven't played all the uncharted or tomb raider games, and I should go play them first..

This is the kind of game I'll get on sale several years after it comes out, but it's definitely going to do really well I think. Will help Bethesda recover from it's last few controversial games

@UltimateOtaku91 Absolutely could go f2p. They just give everyone who bought the game £35 worth of currency. Cosmetics were planned for the game anyway.

CSGO, TF2, PUBG, Destiny 2, Rocket League, Fall Guys, all went paid to f2p. Main difference was they already had a playerbase though

Well, you win some, you lose some.

Expect this to go free to play very, very soon. Don't know who thought charging £35 for a hero shooter was a good idea

@GreatAuk I feel the same way. Been building PCs a long time but don't game on them. When I did, I'd spend more time in settings than the game. That's why I like consoles, although I sometimes can't pick between performance or graphics modes.
If a pro came out and ran 4k60 more frequently, and was still cost effective, I'd probably buy it. Although maybe I should upgrade my TV to OLED first.

I've only bought 4 discs this gen, so I'd probably switch to digital while im at it and save £100

@arzis100193 Wukong, for example, skipping Xbox for now could be because they can't get it to work on Series S. Buldurs Gate 3 didn't come out on Xbox initially for similar reasons, until Spencer changed his mind on console parity. I can see more devs skipping xbox because of the Series S.

Loads times are longer than the start of the PS5. We started the gen on 2 second loading times, now 10 is about normal (well, for wukong anyway).

And well if you can't tell the difference between 30fps and 60fps, I don't know what to tell you. I guess you don't play many fast paced games?
30fps doesn't bother me much, but 60 is still better

Kind of sucks as I don't buy that many games (got a massive backlog to get through). Almost have enough for the £20 reward

Will it be 13 months starting from now or when you originally got them? Because my rewards are from over the years

All I want is Stalker 2, really. But will just wait to see if that 3 month exclusive leak holds any weight.

Seems odd to announce everything for PS when they finally, finally have a games lineup that's decent. They've had nothing but 2 Bethesda flops in the past 4 years, and hellblade 2 I guess, although I don't know anyone who cares about hellblade

@CutchuSlow I mostly play remastered of xbox360/ps3 games (the best era imo) on switch, along with all the indie games. Switch is still good for third party and a lot more accessible than ps5/xsx for family situations

As a cambridge regular, Ninja Theory have spent most of their MS money on an obnoxiously hipster bar under their studio while MS sack actually decent studios like Tango

@GeeForce with the amount of accounts you have to make to use a PC (not just games), I don't see how 1 more is even an issue. It's a pain on a console to make Xbox, EA, Ubisoft, Activision accounts etc when you don't have a keyboard but it's really a non issue on PC. Dumbest thing I've heard from the PC folk in recent times

Yet I've had to make an Xbox account to play Grounded on my PS5. Do I care? Not at all.
Why do PC gamers let MS do whatever they want but cry when Sony does the same?

Silver looks like what PS5 should've been instead of white. Well, all of the colours look better than white.

@zekepliskin lol what? These were announced before the PS5 Slim, while we did not know JR was leaving yet, and are 100% coming to the OG consoles as that's what they were revealed for.

@evildave333 again it's a feature of the series. Is it necessary? No. Is it fun for some people? Yeah. I've always enjoyed creating displays of my collection on games like TDU, PGR4, and recently Motorfest. Feel free to ignore it, but it's not gonna hurt the game

@evildave333 in TDU and TDU2 you could buy houses and display your cars, walk around them and stuff, so it's just feature of the series. I think TDU fans would be upset if it wasn't a feature but it's also something you can completely ignore

@rjejr most games still aren't native 4k/60 so that's still the aim.

@OldGamer999 depends if they release that digital-only bathroom bin version of the Series X. Which was meant to release already according to the leak, if they're behind schedule they might just focus on next gen instead of a Series X pro (or whatever they call it)

@Sakai oh ok fair enough, sounds like you know more than me. I've only really looked at resolution benchmarks on PC which is where CPU is not as important. I thought ray tracing was mostly done on GPU as well. Although this leak says 4.4 GHz clock speed when PS5 is 3.5ghz peak I think. Surely that's quite a boost?

I'd be 100% into this if they make it a more "premium" console, as in they upgrade the build quality, have much better cooling, and finally actually insulate the PSU. Even if it's super expensive

@Sakai at 4k resolution, a more powerful GPU is required before bottlenecking the CPU. And Ray Tracing is also more taxing on GPU and not CPU. Likely that a faster CPU is not really required for 4k/60 or ray tracing improvements

@PixelDragon why?

@Jaz007 agree. This game feels like it was made just to please some h*rny DND weirdos.

My dad works for rockstar

@PixelDragon Yes I'll agree with that. I'm mostly digital now but definitely won't defend it, digital can only exist while there is still physical as an option, or like on PC where there are multiple digital stores

@PixelDragon I think in this particular situation this is down to Discovery/Warner Bros and Sony have their hands tied. Not that I don't think Sony have/would do this, but this particular situation isn't really their fault. I do agree that all digital would be terrible, there should always be a choice

Tbh I've only bought 5 physical games for PS5, all collectors editions. Discs just aren't very good for games anymore. Disc drives are big, a bit noisy, can break, discs can't spin/be read fast enough for modern games, can get scratched, take up space, in 50 years time we might all find these discs have disc rot...

But, I do buy a lot of physical on switch. The cartridges are small enough to put them all in one carrying case. Don't make any noise, no moving parts so aren't easily damaged and the readers are very unlikely to break. Games can actually be read off the cards too without installing.

I hope in the future we could have physical games for PS and Xbox on some kind of flash memory drive. I imagine the costs would be high but it's the only way physical media could sell more I think. Sony did it with the vita at least.

Just have a usb disc drive for backwards compatibility.

@BamBamBaklava89 yeah exactly what I was thinking, why aren't Xbox games coming to PS at all? Not even TES6? Sony would take their 30% and MS get the 70%. And surely selling at full price ($70) would be more profitable than Game Pass? I can't make any sense of this at all. Sounds like stupid PR nonsense

@Flaming_Kaiser size limit of a UHD Blu-ray is 100gb I believe. Just a limitation of discs. Games compress more on PS5 as well but I really don't know why Xbox requires more discs. As much as I love discs, they're just no good for games anymore. I hope we move on to some sort of cartridge like switch because they are superior

@Flaming_Kaiser TBF I have the loudest version of ps5 and it's still not that bad.

And yeah I agree with you on that, it's just a big black box.

It's usually all on the disc. PS5 discs can actually hold more data than Xbox discs. Hence with BG3 is 2 discs PS5 and 3 on Xbox

@Flaming_Kaiser PS5 makes almost zero when XSX makes actually zero. Also mine makes quite a bit of noise, loud fan and coil whine. It's been like that since new and I know I'm not alone as I've spoken to many others about it.

Yeah it's definitely not always performing better than the PS5 but I've heard devs prioritize PS5 and patch XSX later.

The Cyberpunk 2077 "complete" edition is the first I've seen where they've not bothered including DLC on disc, other than that they're the same

@tselliot the vast majority of gamers, casual ones at least, don't have a beefy PC so Xbox still has it's place in the gaming market I think.
From my personal perspective I'm waiting to see what happens with Stalker 2 to decide whether to get a Series S. So maybe it's just their lack of first party titles. I've also heard third party devs prioritize PS5 at launch but I can't confirm that. Feels like the PS2 days where PS first party and third party support was so strong they destroyed competition despite being the weakest console

@OldGamer999 it honestly makes zero sense to me. There are at least some things the XSX does better than PS5. Generally better performance, quieter, better backwards compatibility (FPS boost), whereas Xbox one had almost nothing against PS4. I don't understand how the gap is bigger this gen than last gen

The page for the slim digital at least lets us know how the horizontal stand will work - pure witchcraft it seems.