Looking forward to watching this tonight. We know and guess many titles, but Im hoping for at least one bolt from the blue we didnt see coming, preferably 1st party, but Im happy for 3rd party suprises too. Be nice to finally get a date on the little devil game too...
That sounds like a lot of titles. Im always up for seeing more games to add to the backlog and hope we get another 1st party title in addition to the remasters we are already expecting. 1st or 3rd party, bring em on!
@themightyant im all in on that.. Want the special edition pro, but realise Ill be lucky if I get it! Im likely to end up with the regular pro of course, but Ill be there as sales open...
@themightyant. I see... I dont use discs so I assumed the ps5 drive would sound like the ps4 drive! Yes mate I use headphones if the misses is asleep, its her I dont want to wake. I assume those with young kids or babies would be in a similar position. Nice to know its quite, but I expect to sell the og disc one once I have the pro. Ill keep the digital one for now, but I can see the wife wanting that to be a pro too. God help my wallet!
@Bizzy Good luck to you pal, I hope your right! I've bought and played games since the first Atari 2600 was released back was I was 13. 47 years later, I have a pretty good handle on when or if I go back to old games, and Im very haapy with my own choices. But we are all different, so if you wish to stockpile your old games theres nothing wrong with that. I just dont think anyone is 'stupid' to make an alternate choice! As long as you having fun, its all good 😊
@themightyant Im glad you are so careful of your discs. Its clear that many others are not as there are many buisness offering disc recovery services for those with problems, which are well used. No doubt households with children will suffer worse. I dont think losing your game, through what is demonstrably a regular issue, is niche at all, even if its an issue you only experienced once personally. I treated my discs with care back when I had them, but I had several that became problematic. Noise being an issue depends on circs. I often play via headphones when its late and want zero noise as I dont want to wake my misses up. Zero noise is what I get. Pretty sure Im not the only one who occasionally uses headphones...
I dont believe either are niche, but I'll agree to disagree 😉
@LowDefAl I download once. You buy the disc, you also download once. Your confused with streaming mate where the differences are more naunced, but still many times greener for those streaming. This IS NOT streaming.
@Bizzy Not true mate, in 20 years we will just download them for emulation. Trying to pretend your old discs are a solid investment is folly. The vast majority will be worthless in less than a decade.
We have different ideas on what constitutes smart... and pc gamers, who outnumber us greatly, are already in a digital only platform.
@themightyant lol.
Yes really. The most common ps5 hardware issues are either issues with the ssd or drives unable to read discs. As soon as you have moving parts, you have a point of failure. Glad you havent experienced it yet!
Whilst I like to think Id always put games away in the right box, im human and Ive often not, or my wife had tidied up and we had to play hunt the disc Everyone of my friends does it too, so Im shocked you never do!
I notice you didnt rebut that the machines noisier, thats a fact, or that you lose your game if you damage your disc, another fact.
Im not trying to turn you on this as I know your heart is set. But so is mine and I encourage greener behaviour where I can!
Have a good one.
@JalapenoSpiceLife Ive used shopto, but their discounts are less, usually just 10%. I go where the discounts are cheapest - must of bought credit 100 times and Ive never experienced an issue with any of the vendors. 👍
Kahyl, that 'lost like tears in the rain' was a beatiful line, made me chefs kiss.
No one should forget that beatiful speach which summed up the relicants desire and need for longer life.
If they think they can hire a few new staff and pick up where they left off, they are seriously deluded.
@themightyant
You obviously need help being even handed here..
Negative:
Your console will be more likely to suffer a hardware failure.
You have a louder machine.
Your machine will cost more.
You are consuming planets resources and creating environmental damage.
You lose your game if you scratch or damage your disc.
You get home with a disc and have to download the latest version anyway.
You have to go find any game you think of - who hasnt played 'hunt the disc'.
You are less likely to try that small game you forgot you bought ages ago as its stuck on a dusty shelf.
Your home becomes cluttered with hundreds of items you will barely ever look at.
Delighted to have been digital since ps4, would never go back.
@Medic_alert But you can always get 12 to 16% of the purchase price of psn credit,. It takes a couple of minutes. (Eurogames usually have the best deals)
£70 games are under £60 on day of release.
Anyone not taking advantage of that is burning their own cash.
@NEStalgia Ah were just pretty different in our outlook NES, I guess weve dropped enough long posts at each other to know that by now, and I am somewhar harder posting on you as I know you can take a more robust discussion without becoming insulting. Of course you play games, your not here on a whim I just dont see as many posts from you about them prehaps.. Regardless, you have every right to your view of course, no matter how passionately I hold the alternate view, neither of us have a hotline to ultimate truth 😊 Its Saturday night here, Im playing Astrobot (only 209 bots so far), my misses is on our second machine just behind me playing Rangorak and life feels good.. I hope you are feeling contented and happy too where ever you are, and regarding 'exploitation' I'll agree to to disagree with you, but in peace. I shouldnt let my lack of understanding, question your motivations. Have a great weekend.
Once the f1 finishes for today, Im going to go and beat my head against a wall.... and by that I mean try and get a little further in Black Wokong, which is testing my poor old man reflexes bad! 🤣
Im also looking to finish off Astrobot as some light relief, its such a joyful experience.
... and I really want to get back to some Diablo 4, I keep meaning to and getting distracted..
Whatever you are playing this weekend, I hope you have fun!
@LikelySatan Sorry, Im an old git and I simply dont understand your statement, though I expect its a mild insult. To me a fedora is a hat or something to do with linux? However I will take your goodbye at face value and ignore the insult I do understand, and wish you a good day too. I hope at some future time we can converse in a more civil manner, as its very likely we have much more in common than our differences. Till next time.
@themightyant Do try it mate. Having had several conversations with you in the past, I think you might enjoy how this title unfolds and expands.
@Shepherd_Tallon You too mate, Id urge you to try this one as I think you would get why so many enjoyed it.
@LikelySatan Ah, I see. Your intention is clearly to bait me. I refer to 'trowing ammo' as so many peope appear to come here merely to throw shade on the platform and what the platform holder does. They will often then post elsewhere (often on Pure) about how they came here to 'put the boot in' often followed by lots of lols. I dislike this trend and prefered it when people came here to genuinely discuss games. I dont see how that suggestion could constitute 'cowardly behaviour' im right here and am more than prepared to engage in civil discourse if that is what you would like? Its seems more like you would rather engage in insults?
@Fiendish-Beaver I think it might be you mate as I only turned 60 last month! 21/08/1964. Im kinda glad if im not the eldest and I will happilly concede the title! Have a good one 😊
@LikelySatan You attempt to misrepresent. I cant express any clearer what my thoughts are on this subject and my history of exchanges and conversations with this individual have gone on for years over multiple sites, i genuinely despise those who look to find fault everywhere they look, that kind of negitivity breeds more negativity. Rather than simply disagree and offer an opinion you attempt to classify me in one of your pigeon holes, and make some huge leap abiut irl frustrations? If that makes you feel good... but you dont know and have never interacted with me before, and are miles off the mark. I have an extremely long history of posts on this 'playstation enthusiasts site' if you somehow have a desire to phyco analyse. I have no idea what your phrase 'honest consumer' means, so I can't agree or disagree with your point, but will happily discuss if you wish to clarify what you meant?
One of my fave games on ps4, loved it. If they can make a significant difference to the presentation, then not only will they sell to new console owners, but maybe a few of us who would enjoy a revisit to a definitive version too.
Whilst I'll expect the usual cries of foul from those who cant wait to attack Sonys games, this is merely an option for those that want it. Nobody is going to make you buy it and those peddling an 'exploititive' narritive are clearly dellusional and simply looking for more ammo to throw. I despise the attitude and they must live very miserable lives.
@NEStalgia Thanks for the reply, but I catogoricaly reject your assesment that this is exploitation. You are willfully finding offense, and like so many these days, you seem ill at ease unless you have a perceived injustice to rile against. You seem far more involved in finding fault somewhere and writing a wall of text about it than playing or enjoying games and Ive never even seen you talk abiut a game youve played or enjoyed. It appears you dont play games at all and simply enjoy riding the next 'injustice wave' We will never be alike and I will never share your viewpoint and Im extremely grateful for that. I will have a much happier life not subscribing to all the injustices you try to manufacture.
Have a great day anyway, even if for you that means finding another percieved injustice to rant about.
@Northern_munkey Thanks my friend. I'm happy to plant that seed in your head! It might not be for everyone of course. Its a liberating experience to divest yourself of so much built up media. It dictated how I used my rooms and took up so much space, reclaiming that and having a refresh was really helpful to me in many ways. It was also clearly representitive of some stuff I needed to clear out mentally, but thats another story.. Have a good weekend mate.
@NEStalgia "but it doesn't mean we should ever be celebrating that." Im not sure anyone suggested we should celebrate it? I think the suggestion was that Sony cashing in on an ip it has created is not exploititive in anyway, just sound buisness practice given the market we are undoubtably in. I do sympathise with your view that the market has changed as the hobby has become mainstream. But I'd offer the counter thought that the range and diversity offered these days means you can find your fix in the diverse offerings from devs of all sizes if the mass market titles dont suit. I've seen all gens and genuinely believe we've never had it so good... my backlog is huge, but i play as much as I ever have. I'm genuinely baffled why people feel like they've been exploited when anyone releases a game they dont care for? In such circs cant help but assume ulterior motivation for a response I cant comprehend. Im probably not explaining myself well, but I'd rather everyone felt the passion and joy I still feel for this hobby.
@Fiendish-Beaver Lol. Its clearly only 2.2 to one if you look across this generation from the start. If you look at the last year it is 3 to 1. It's clearly a better summation of where we are now to look at the current sales rather than go back a few years to try and make it seem somehow better? Right now Xbox is dying and it would be better for everyone imo if it did not. However, its quite clear that the leadership team at Xbox are not clear on a direction, have lost trust through lying too often and are now being made hostage to share holders who want ever increasing financial gain with zero scruples about how they get it. I'm sure Microsoft gaming will become a dominant publisher, but they will kill of the Xbox division to get there, and that's the only part of the corp I had time for. Never thought I'd sell my series X, but it's going on Ebay.
@16BitHero Well said mate. I've seen every single generation of games machine and I've never had so much to play, with almost everyone I know saying their backlog is so huge. There is a problem with people getting older and falling out of love with games. That's on them, not the offerings. I'm probably older than the vast majority on here but I've never lost my enthusiasm and I can confidently say that if you are a real gamer, your choices have never been better or more varied.
@trev666 Sony dont sell a handheld - it's a different market and I suspect you know you are drawing a false equivalency. Their product does not directly compete.
@NEStalgia "These companies need to start looking at the CONSUMER rather than their internal goals as they get forever more out of touch with their own market."
Yet the TLOU remaster, much despised by you and many others who spend their days here trying to figure out how to pillory sony next, sold 18 million copies. Real consumers loved it. You are not their market - indeed you wear you team green credentials with pride and defend almost anything they do.
Sony don't just make games for the shouty online entitled brigade, they make these games for those that will buy them - which is clearly not you.
In the case of this title, it might not do as well, as the TV series it was supposed to release with is now not appearing. But I bet it sells well regardless and the company needs to make money to fund its future projects.
In a world where new IP's are often culled before they are even launched, your successful IP's must be leveraged to make as much as possible or there will be nothing.
I wish that wasn't the case, but thats business and I rather they were doing well from this sort of exercise so they can continue to speculate with some newer ideas for the future.
I'm buying a pro anyway so I might get me a 30th anniversary pro as I love the old logo I'll never use another disc drive anyway, so if someone wants a 30th anniversary disc cover and doesn't have one, hit me up and I'll send it to you
Can anyone here name a SE title that they say performed to expectations? I can't think of any... nothing ever performs well for them and won't until they rethink their leadership team.
@Ashkorsair Thank you for saying so mate. I sometimes wonder if I'm the only sane person left in the world, but you've reminded me the sane people are not the shouty obnoxious types who inhabit these pages.
@Oz_Who_Dat_Dare Agreed my freind, both on the poor marketting and how we think GP affects how we game.
Sony would have been better waiting to announce with a sop or show that could demonstrate advantages and software in more depth, and then maybe Cerny could have held a more technical deep dive. I'd assume they figured the sop might be too near release day and we all needed time to absorb the price information so that those of us prepared to buy can save up or arrange a new mortgage! Nice to talk with you 😊
@Oz_Who_Dat_Dare
Not a fair comparison to me. I'm all digital on Xbox too, so I don't want or need a drive or a stand - so I would indeed need the white edition with no disc drive and still only 1tb of storage.
That cosmic black edition looks horrid, like someone just covered it in space dust, but it does indeed have a drive and 2Tb. However my Series X is just about to go on ebay, so I'm soon to be an EX boxer..
Its been the most disappointing console I've ever owned and I've owned pretty much everything since I bought an atari 2600 on release in 1977 when I was 13. Initially I had to import many of them (such as the PC engine hand held) as the west simply didnt have much of a video game scene back then. To be fair to the Xbox it might have had more use if my wife could handle the controllers, but she wont play with them as the left stick is too high for smaller hands so she has to rotate the hand and then horizontal movements become diagonals etc. I also dropped GP a year ago as I believe it devalues full price games at a time when some of my old dev mates are losing their jobs and the industry is having major issues - entirely my choice and I try not to soap box about that.
As for value for PS5 pro - well thats something thats different for everybody. What I'd choose to spend might be well above what someone else is prepared to spend, because to me, even slight improvements are very welcome and games are still a huge part of my life. I've also recently changed the main TV in my living room and 30 fps titles that were OK to play on my previous telly are now headache inducing and I wont play them. I need as many 60hz options as possible!
Obviously people are currently judging based on early youtube footage and not waiting for some proper material to see what the differences are. They still might not be different enough for many people, but they will be for me! I'm pre ordering the moment I get the chance. With the funds from selling the Series X and from my original PS5 with an extra 2TB drive (I'll keep my second digital one), I won't need to find much money to finance the PS5 pro.
I suspect many will not see the value, but there are still many people who want the best and for whom £700 is chump change, so I expect it will sell within forecasts. Maybe %10 of install base by close of this gen. Despite peoples open hostility, this will do fine. People were ridiculously hostile to the Portal too, but that sold like hot cakes and is a great little device for those of us that use it.
@Fiendish-Beaver Guilty as charged mate! My point is obviously with xbox charging $600 for an old design with no updates except 2tb strorage, a newer more performant PS5 with 2tb at $700 doesn't look over priced. I'd agree that 90% of people wont need the upgraded performance, but those of us who will appreciate the better image quality and even more games running at 60hz, will welcome the choice, especially if they can afford it!
@themightyant Wow, 35% digital AND 65% digital. No Physical at all then? You might want to correct that....
...and I don't think you need worry that there will not be an option for discs, back compatibility seems to be a major bullet point for them and you can't do that as successfully without a disc. The fact you have to go back some time to try and kid yourself the majority want physical is very telling. I'm afraid you are in the minority, but it's a very vocal shouty minority if you inhabit the online space.
I went digital in the PS4 era and my PS5 has seen one physical PS4 game - and only then so I could claim a digitally updated version of the game. No regrets at all, the best decision I ever made to dump all the endless shelves of hardly touched media charting my ridiculous spending habits! I dumped all my music then too - 2000 LP's and about 1200 CD's as well as all my blu rays and films. Everything on a digital server that's backed up daily to the cloud. My house literally has about 25% more space and air in it now, I never play the 'hunt the disc' game and none of my media stutters because of an errant scratch on the disc. Its so much better on so many levels - FOR ME of course!
@themightyant
"All I can say is it better have a disc drive!"
Absolutely not. Why should those of who consume digitally have to pay for a disc drive we don't need and that will be the most likely cause of a hardware failure?
It can have an add on disc drive for those of you still intent on destroying resources for no useful reason, don't force your nostalgia on the rest of us.
I normally agree with your posts and enjoy interacting with you, but your insistence that the rest of us must pay for kit we don't want or need just to suit your old narrative is clearly ill thought out and not justifiable.
" I think the version will be a pleasant surprise, but hard to tell these days.” They clearly don't understand entitled gamers and neither do I. They have clearly read sites like Push, where people are just here to throw stones - at anything. I'm sure what they have to show will go down well with those of us who still enjoy gaming and understand its development, but will also be weaponised by those who want to feel that they are on the end of some kind of injustice. I'm looking forward to real details starting to emerge, and I hope to play AW2 on the pro.
I really enjoyed Motorfest, and recently installed it again, so this is welcome news. Once you've adapted to its little idosyncrasies, its a fantastic open world racer which I found even more enjoyable than Forza Horizon 5. I dont say that lightly either as Im a big fan of Forza Horizon.. I see its also getting ps5 pro support, Id love a 120hz mode.
They are very clearly very passionate about working on a game concept close to their hearts. Its a shame the parent company were not prepared to back it, but I greatly admire them for leaving en mass to go and make the title they care about.
Id much rather play titles made with heart soul and commitment than the next EA or Ubi title designed by marketting men whos only passion is profit.
@KilloWertz There is nothing unnecessary about this addition to the line up. Many of us have TVs which make us uncomfortable playing games at 30hz, so having a machine more capable of 60hz play is essential to us if we want to play some titles, and now we have that option. Trying to relate the price of a future generation based of the price of a luxury mid gen refresh intended for maybe 10% of sales, is simple lunacy and shows you have no buisness knowledge of the games sector at all, just alarmist illogical nonsense. Wake up and realise what a stupid argument that is to make. You can like/ not like all you want, but your reasons are simply made up to justify an emotional response you clearly cant control. Take a deep breath mate, its just a product you dont like, your ps5 will work fine and a future ps6 will be priced towards the mass market.
I wish everyone could afford a pro. What a lovely world that would be. I wish everyone could afford a decent PC gpu, they are even more out of reach for most. However, if you want high performance you have to pay the funds required to get it.
New systems when designed, are designed to deliver the platform to a mass market audience at a level thats acceptable for the majority... they are not aiming at the 10% of us who will notice and pay for better.
@KilloWertz Im sorry, but everything you are saying is alarmist hyperbole and I utterly reject every supposition you make. You are of course welcome to any view you wish to take. But dont expect me to prophesise the end of the console buisness simply because some angry online gamers want to rant cause they cant afford a luxury item that's clearly only for the committed few. The ps5 buisness will remain exactly as it is, with the bulk of sales remaining for the best value standard machine, and the launch of the pro will hardly change the sales trajectory at all. The sun will continue to rise, and within a week or two, the hyperbole mob will move on to the next 'disaster as they see it'.
Im happy to buy it priced as is. My GPU cost £2k and Ive barely used it as I dislike PC gaming enourmously. £700 is not a big deal to some.
I bought a neo geo when they were released for huge money and used to pay between £120 and £150 for the games, and that was a lot of money back then.
Looking at what gpu you can buy for £700, the pro is still good value, if you want the best performance.
If not, then there nothing wrong with the current ps5, its not going anywhere and will play all the games. Those with us with spare cash and a desire to get more 60hz and more quality will buy, and it really shouldnt offend anyone else who doesnt need it or want to pay for it. I dont get offended by those who drive an Aston Martin simply because I cant afford to. But of course, we are online, its peoples job to find something to get offended by 😂
Good month for me again. As long as I average playing 2 titles a month Im happy and I would have bought the plucky squire for about £25, so its a good month.
@KilloWertz Nobody is twisting your arm. Stay with what you have and you still get to play everything.
Personally I think $600 for the new series X is too much, it has nothing new under the hood at all, so in that context, this is at least offering something for the extra, weather you want it or not.
With so many gamers now being all digital, forcing us to buy a machine with an unused drive would have been the rediculous decision, I havent used a game disc in over 5 years and dont need or want one. If you require one, it already exists and will work.
I could drive around in a little eurobox car and get where I want cheaply. I drive a merc cause I appreciate the difference.
I can get to play the games I want with my PS5. I will play on a ps5pro, cause I will appreciate the difference.
We have choice.
My GPU cost £2k by itself. A PS5 pro is certainly not rediculous in context, its just out of reach for those who are not enthusiasts and those with little spare income, as is any unnecessary luxury item.
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Re: What Time Is PlayStation's State of Play?
Looking forward to watching this tonight. We know and guess many titles, but Im hoping for at least one bolt from the blue we didnt see coming, preferably 1st party, but Im happy for 3rd party suprises too.
Be nice to finally get a date on the little devil game too...
Re: State of Play Confirmed for Tomorrow, 20+ PS5, PSVR2 Games Included
That sounds like a lot of titles. Im always up for seeing more games to add to the backlog and hope we get another 1st party title in addition to the remasters we are already expecting.
1st or 3rd party, bring em on!
Re: A Massive 75% of UK Game Sales Were Digital Last Month
@themightyant im all in on that.. Want the special edition pro, but realise Ill be lucky if I get it! Im likely to end up with the regular pro of course, but Ill be there as sales open...
Re: A Massive 75% of UK Game Sales Were Digital Last Month
@themightyant.
I see... I dont use discs so I assumed the ps5 drive would sound like the ps4 drive! Yes mate I use headphones if the misses is asleep, its her I dont want to wake. I assume those with young kids or babies would be in a similar position.
Nice to know its quite, but I expect to sell the og disc one once I have the pro. Ill keep the digital one for now, but I can see the wife wanting that to be a pro too. God help my wallet!
Re: A Massive 75% of UK Game Sales Were Digital Last Month
@Bizzy Good luck to you pal, I hope your right!
I've bought and played games since the first Atari 2600 was released back was I was 13. 47 years later, I have a pretty good handle on when or if I go back to old games, and Im very haapy with my own choices.
But we are all different, so if you wish to stockpile your old games theres nothing wrong with that. I just dont think anyone is 'stupid' to make an alternate choice! As long as you having fun, its all good 😊
Re: A Massive 75% of UK Game Sales Were Digital Last Month
@themightyant
Im glad you are so careful of your discs. Its clear that many others are not as there are many buisness offering disc recovery services for those with problems, which are well used. No doubt households with children will suffer worse. I dont think losing your game, through what is demonstrably a regular issue, is niche at all, even if its an issue you only experienced once personally. I treated my discs with care back when I had them, but I had several that became problematic.
Noise being an issue depends on circs. I often play via headphones when its late and want zero noise as I dont want to wake my misses up. Zero noise is what I get. Pretty sure Im not the only one who occasionally uses headphones...
I dont believe either are niche, but I'll agree to disagree 😉
Re: A Massive 75% of UK Game Sales Were Digital Last Month
@LowDefAl I download once. You buy the disc, you also download once.
Your confused with streaming mate where the differences are more naunced, but still many times greener for those streaming.
This IS NOT streaming.
Re: A Massive 75% of UK Game Sales Were Digital Last Month
@Bizzy Not true mate, in 20 years we will just download them for emulation. Trying to pretend your old discs are a solid investment is folly. The vast majority will be worthless in less than a decade.
We have different ideas on what constitutes smart... and pc gamers, who outnumber us greatly, are already in a digital only platform.
Re: A Massive 75% of UK Game Sales Were Digital Last Month
@themightyant lol.
Yes really. The most common ps5 hardware issues are either issues with the ssd or drives unable to read discs. As soon as you have moving parts, you have a point of failure. Glad you havent experienced it yet!
Whilst I like to think Id always put games away in the right box, im human and Ive often not, or my wife had tidied up and we had to play hunt the disc Everyone of my friends does it too, so Im shocked you never do!
I notice you didnt rebut that the machines noisier, thats a fact, or that you lose your game if you damage your disc, another fact.
Im not trying to turn you on this as I know your heart is set. But so is mine and I encourage greener behaviour where I can!
Have a good one.
Re: A Massive 75% of UK Game Sales Were Digital Last Month
@JalapenoSpiceLife Ive used shopto, but their discounts are less, usually just 10%. I go where the discounts are cheapest - must of bought credit 100 times and Ive never experienced an issue with any of the vendors. 👍
Re: Annapurna Says Blade Runner 2033: Labyrinth Still Happening Despite Entire Dev Team's Departure
Kahyl, that 'lost like tears in the rain' was a beatiful line, made me chefs kiss.
No one should forget that beatiful speach which summed up the relicants desire and need for longer life.
If they think they can hire a few new staff and pick up where they left off, they are seriously deluded.
Re: A Massive 75% of UK Game Sales Were Digital Last Month
@themightyant
You obviously need help being even handed here..
Negative:
Your console will be more likely to suffer a hardware failure.
You have a louder machine.
Your machine will cost more.
You are consuming planets resources and creating environmental damage.
You lose your game if you scratch or damage your disc.
You get home with a disc and have to download the latest version anyway.
You have to go find any game you think of - who hasnt played 'hunt the disc'.
You are less likely to try that small game you forgot you bought ages ago as its stuck on a dusty shelf.
Your home becomes cluttered with hundreds of items you will barely ever look at.
Delighted to have been digital since ps4, would never go back.
Re: A Massive 75% of UK Game Sales Were Digital Last Month
@Medic_alert But you can always get 12 to 16% of the purchase price of psn credit,. It takes a couple of minutes. (Eurogames usually have the best deals)
£70 games are under £60 on day of release.
Anyone not taking advantage of that is burning their own cash.
Re: Lord of the Rings Life Sim Tales of the Shire Out for PS5 in March 2025
Im a sucker for chilled out games and anything Tolkien, so its an almost guaranteed sale to me!
Re: Reaction: Why There Are So Many Unnecessary PS5 Remasters for Games That Don't Need Them
@NEStalgia Ah were just pretty different in our outlook NES, I guess weve dropped enough long posts at each other to know that by now, and I am somewhar harder posting on you as I know you can take a more robust discussion without becoming insulting. Of course you play games, your not here on a whim I just dont see as many posts from you about them prehaps..
Regardless, you have every right to your view of course, no matter how passionately I hold the alternate view, neither of us have a hotline to ultimate truth 😊
Its Saturday night here, Im playing Astrobot (only 209 bots so far), my misses is on our second machine just behind me playing Rangorak and life feels good.. I hope you are feeling contented and happy too where ever you are, and regarding 'exploitation' I'll agree to to disagree with you, but in peace. I shouldnt let my lack of understanding, question your motivations.
Have a great weekend.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 547
Once the f1 finishes for today, Im going to go and beat my head against a wall.... and by that I mean try and get a little further in Black Wokong, which is testing my poor old man reflexes bad! 🤣
Im also looking to finish off Astrobot as some light relief, its such a joyful experience.
... and I really want to get back to some Diablo 4, I keep meaning to and getting distracted..
Whatever you are playing this weekend, I hope you have fun!
Re: Reaction: Why There Are So Many Unnecessary PS5 Remasters for Games That Don't Need Them
@LikelySatan Sorry, Im an old git and I simply dont understand your statement, though I expect its a mild insult. To me a fedora is a hat or something to do with linux?
However I will take your goodbye at face value and ignore the insult I do understand, and wish you a good day too. I hope at some future time we can converse in a more civil manner, as its very likely we have much more in common than our differences.
Till next time.
Re: PS5's Building Insurmountable Lead Over Rival, Outselling Xbox Almost 3:1
@Fiendish-Beaver lol, title conceded mate.
You are the most 'well lived and wise' of us 🤣
Re: Days Gone PS5 Remaster Rumours Start to Snowball
@themightyant Do try it mate. Having had several conversations with you in the past, I think you might enjoy how this title unfolds and expands.
@Shepherd_Tallon You too mate, Id urge you to try this one as I think you would get why so many enjoyed it.
Re: Days Gone PS5 Remaster Rumours Start to Snowball
@LikelySatan
Ah, I see. Your intention is clearly to bait me.
I refer to 'trowing ammo' as so many peope appear to come here merely to throw shade on the platform and what the platform holder does. They will often then post elsewhere (often on Pure) about how they came here to 'put the boot in' often followed by lots of lols.
I dislike this trend and prefered it when people came here to genuinely discuss games.
I dont see how that suggestion could constitute 'cowardly behaviour' im right here and am more than prepared to engage in civil discourse if that is what you would like? Its seems more like you would rather engage in insults?
Re: PS5's Building Insurmountable Lead Over Rival, Outselling Xbox Almost 3:1
@Fiendish-Beaver I think it might be you mate as I only turned 60 last month! 21/08/1964.
Im kinda glad if im not the eldest and I will happilly concede the title!
Have a good one 😊
Re: Reaction: Why There Are So Many Unnecessary PS5 Remasters for Games That Don't Need Them
@LikelySatan You attempt to misrepresent. I cant express any clearer what my thoughts are on this subject and my history of exchanges and conversations with this individual have gone on for years over multiple sites, i genuinely despise those who look to find fault everywhere they look, that kind of negitivity breeds more negativity.
Rather than simply disagree and offer an opinion you attempt to classify me in one of your pigeon holes, and make some huge leap abiut irl frustrations? If that makes you feel good... but you dont know and have never interacted with me before, and are miles off the mark. I have an extremely long history of posts on this 'playstation enthusiasts site' if you somehow have a desire to phyco analyse.
I have no idea what your phrase 'honest consumer' means, so I can't agree or disagree with your point, but will happily discuss if you wish to clarify what you meant?
Re: Days Gone PS5 Remaster Rumours Start to Snowball
One of my fave games on ps4, loved it. If they can make a significant difference to the presentation, then not only will they sell to new console owners, but maybe a few of us who would enjoy a revisit to a definitive version too.
Whilst I'll expect the usual cries of foul from those who cant wait to attack Sonys games, this is merely an option for those that want it. Nobody is going to make you buy it and those peddling an 'exploititive' narritive are clearly dellusional and simply looking for more ammo to throw. I despise the attitude and they must live very miserable lives.
Re: Reaction: Why There Are So Many Unnecessary PS5 Remasters for Games That Don't Need Them
@NEStalgia Thanks for the reply, but I catogoricaly reject your assesment that this is exploitation. You are willfully finding offense, and like so many these days, you seem ill at ease unless you have a perceived injustice to rile against. You seem far more involved in finding fault somewhere and writing a wall of text about it than playing or enjoying games and Ive never even seen you talk abiut a game youve played or enjoyed. It appears you dont play games at all and simply enjoy riding the next 'injustice wave'
We will never be alike and I will never share your viewpoint and Im extremely grateful for that. I will have a much happier life not subscribing to all the injustices you try to manufacture.
Have a great day anyway, even if for you that means finding another percieved injustice to rant about.
Re: PS5's Building Insurmountable Lead Over Rival, Outselling Xbox Almost 3:1
@Northern_munkey Thanks my friend.
I'm happy to plant that seed in your head! It might not be for everyone of course. Its a liberating experience to divest yourself of so much built up media. It dictated how I used my rooms and took up so much space, reclaiming that and having a refresh was really helpful to me in many ways. It was also clearly representitive of some stuff I needed to clear out mentally, but thats another story..
Have a good weekend mate.
Re: Reaction: Why There Are So Many Unnecessary PS5 Remasters for Games That Don't Need Them
@NEStalgia "but it doesn't mean we should ever be celebrating that."
Im not sure anyone suggested we should celebrate it? I think the suggestion was that Sony cashing in on an ip it has created is not exploititive in anyway, just sound buisness practice given the market we are undoubtably in.
I do sympathise with your view that the market has changed as the hobby has become mainstream. But I'd offer the counter thought that the range and diversity offered these days means you can find your fix in the diverse offerings from devs of all sizes if the mass market titles dont suit.
I've seen all gens and genuinely believe we've never had it so good... my backlog is huge, but i play as much as I ever have.
I'm genuinely baffled why people feel like they've been exploited when anyone releases a game they dont care for? In such circs cant help but assume ulterior motivation for a response I cant comprehend.
Im probably not explaining myself well, but I'd rather everyone felt the passion and joy I still feel for this hobby.
Re: PS5's Building Insurmountable Lead Over Rival, Outselling Xbox Almost 3:1
@Fiendish-Beaver Lol. Its clearly only 2.2 to one if you look across this generation from the start. If you look at the last year it is 3 to 1.
It's clearly a better summation of where we are now to look at the current sales rather than go back a few years to try and make it seem somehow better?
Right now Xbox is dying and it would be better for everyone imo if it did not. However, its quite clear that the leadership team at Xbox are not clear on a direction, have lost trust through lying too often and are now being made hostage to share holders who want ever increasing financial gain with zero scruples about how they get it. I'm sure Microsoft gaming will become a dominant publisher, but they will kill of the Xbox division to get there, and that's the only part of the corp I had time for. Never thought I'd sell my series X, but it's going on Ebay.
Re: PS5's Building Insurmountable Lead Over Rival, Outselling Xbox Almost 3:1
@16BitHero Well said mate. I've seen every single generation of games machine and I've never had so much to play, with almost everyone I know saying their backlog is so huge. There is a problem with people getting older and falling out of love with games. That's on them, not the offerings. I'm probably older than the vast majority on here but I've never lost my enthusiasm and I can confidently say that if you are a real gamer, your choices have never been better or more varied.
Re: PS5's Building Insurmountable Lead Over Rival, Outselling Xbox Almost 3:1
@trev666 Sony dont sell a handheld - it's a different market and I suspect you know you are drawing a false equivalency.
Their product does not directly compete.
Re: Reaction: Why There Are So Many Unnecessary PS5 Remasters for Games That Don't Need Them
@NEStalgia "These companies need to start looking at the CONSUMER rather than their internal goals as they get forever more out of touch with their own market."
Yet the TLOU remaster, much despised by you and many others who spend their days here trying to figure out how to pillory sony next, sold 18 million copies. Real consumers loved it. You are not their market - indeed you wear you team green credentials with pride and defend almost anything they do.
Sony don't just make games for the shouty online entitled brigade, they make these games for those that will buy them - which is clearly not you.
In the case of this title, it might not do as well, as the TV series it was supposed to release with is now not appearing. But I bet it sells well regardless and the company needs to make money to fund its future projects.
In a world where new IP's are often culled before they are even launched, your successful IP's must be leveraged to make as much as possible or there will be nothing.
I wish that wasn't the case, but thats business and I rather they were doing well from this sort of exercise so they can continue to speculate with some newer ideas for the future.
Re: Jaw-Dropping 30th Anniversary PS5 Pro Console and Accessories Will Bankrupt You
I'm buying a pro anyway so I might get me a 30th anniversary pro as I love the old logo
I'll never use another disc drive anyway, so if someone wants a 30th anniversary disc cover and doesn't have one, hit me up and I'll send it to you
Re: Jaw-Dropping 30th Anniversary PS5 Pro Console and Accessories Will Bankrupt You
Why are people not reading the article? PS will supply a correct coloured cover if you buy a 30th anniversay machine?
Re: PS5 Exclusives Final Fantasy 16, Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth Failed to Meet Expectations
Can anyone here name a SE title that they say performed to expectations? I can't think of any... nothing ever performs well for them and won't until they rethink their leadership team.
Re: Horizon Zero Dawn's PS5, PC Remaster Is Very Much the Real Deal
@Ashkorsair Thank you for saying so mate. I sometimes wonder if I'm the only sane person left in the world, but you've reminded me the sane people are not the shouty obnoxious types who inhabit these pages.
Re: PS6 Is Already Deep in Development, Backwards Compatibility of High Importance
@Oz_Who_Dat_Dare
Agreed my freind, both on the poor marketting and how we think GP affects how we game.
Sony would have been better waiting to announce with a sop or show that could demonstrate advantages and software in more depth, and then maybe Cerny could have held a more technical deep dive. I'd assume they figured the sop might be too near release day and we all needed time to absorb the price information so that those of us prepared to buy can save up or arrange a new mortgage!
Nice to talk with you 😊
Re: PS6 Is Already Deep in Development, Backwards Compatibility of High Importance
@Oz_Who_Dat_Dare
Not a fair comparison to me. I'm all digital on Xbox too, so I don't want or need a drive or a stand - so I would indeed need the white edition with no disc drive and still only 1tb of storage.
That cosmic black edition looks horrid, like someone just covered it in space dust, but it does indeed have a drive and 2Tb. However my Series X is just about to go on ebay, so I'm soon to be an EX boxer..
Its been the most disappointing console I've ever owned and I've owned pretty much everything since I bought an atari 2600 on release in 1977 when I was 13. Initially I had to import many of them (such as the PC engine hand held) as the west simply didnt have much of a video game scene back then. To be fair to the Xbox it might have had more use if my wife could handle the controllers, but she wont play with them as the left stick is too high for smaller hands so she has to rotate the hand and then horizontal movements become diagonals etc. I also dropped GP a year ago as I believe it devalues full price games at a time when some of my old dev mates are losing their jobs and the industry is having major issues - entirely my choice and I try not to soap box about that.
As for value for PS5 pro - well thats something thats different for everybody. What I'd choose to spend might be well above what someone else is prepared to spend, because to me, even slight improvements are very welcome and games are still a huge part of my life. I've also recently changed the main TV in my living room and 30 fps titles that were OK to play on my previous telly are now headache inducing and I wont play them. I need as many 60hz options as possible!
Obviously people are currently judging based on early youtube footage and not waiting for some proper material to see what the differences are. They still might not be different enough for many people, but they will be for me! I'm pre ordering the moment I get the chance. With the funds from selling the Series X and from my original PS5 with an extra 2TB drive (I'll keep my second digital one), I won't need to find much money to finance the PS5 pro.
I suspect many will not see the value, but there are still many people who want the best and for whom £700 is chump change, so I expect it will sell within forecasts. Maybe %10 of install base by close of this gen. Despite peoples open hostility, this will do fine. People were ridiculously hostile to the Portal too, but that sold like hot cakes and is a great little device for those of us that use it.
Sorry dude - waffle post!
Re: PS6 Is Already Deep in Development, Backwards Compatibility of High Importance
@Fiendish-Beaver
Guilty as charged mate!
My point is obviously with xbox charging $600 for an old design with no updates except 2tb strorage, a newer more performant PS5 with 2tb at $700 doesn't look over priced.
I'd agree that 90% of people wont need the upgraded performance, but those of us who will appreciate the better image quality and even more games running at 60hz, will welcome the choice, especially if they can afford it!
Re: PS6 Is Already Deep in Development, Backwards Compatibility of High Importance
@themightyant Wow, 35% digital AND 65% digital. No Physical at all then? You might want to correct that....
...and I don't think you need worry that there will not be an option for discs, back compatibility seems to be a major bullet point for them and you can't do that as successfully without a disc.
The fact you have to go back some time to try and kid yourself the majority want physical is very telling. I'm afraid you are in the minority, but it's a very vocal shouty minority if you inhabit the online space.
I went digital in the PS4 era and my PS5 has seen one physical PS4 game - and only then so I could claim a digitally updated version of the game. No regrets at all, the best decision I ever made to dump all the endless shelves of hardly touched media charting my ridiculous spending habits! I dumped all my music then too - 2000 LP's and about 1200 CD's as well as all my blu rays and films. Everything on a digital server that's backed up daily to the cloud. My house literally has about 25% more space and air in it now, I never play the 'hunt the disc' game and none of my media stutters because of an errant scratch on the disc. Its so much better on so many levels - FOR ME of course!
Re: PS6 Is Already Deep in Development, Backwards Compatibility of High Importance
@Fiendish-Beaver They have a mid gen refresh $600 for exactly the same machine but with 2TB. Oh and its white too, maybe hense the extra charge?
Re: PS6 Is Already Deep in Development, Backwards Compatibility of High Importance
@themightyant
"All I can say is it better have a disc drive!"
Absolutely not. Why should those of who consume digitally have to pay for a disc drive we don't need and that will be the most likely cause of a hardware failure?
It can have an add on disc drive for those of you still intent on destroying resources for no useful reason, don't force your nostalgia on the rest of us.
I normally agree with your posts and enjoy interacting with you, but your insistence that the rest of us must pay for kit we don't want or need just to suit your old narrative is clearly ill thought out and not justifiable.
Re: PS5 Pro's Alan Wake 2 Upgrades Will Be a 'Pleasant Surprise'
" I think the version will be a pleasant surprise, but hard to tell these days.”
They clearly don't understand entitled gamers and neither do I.
They have clearly read sites like Push, where people are just here to throw stones - at anything. I'm sure what they have to show will go down well with those of us who still enjoy gaming and understand its development, but will also be weaponised by those who want to feel that they are on the end of some kind of injustice.
I'm looking forward to real details starting to emerge, and I hope to play AW2 on the pro.
Re: Test Your PlayStation General Knowledge - Issue 27
7/10 is one of my better scores, and I only took a little time to choose or guess
Leaderboard looks a little more realistic today. Congrats to whomever has helped sort that out!
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 546
Astrobot and Wukong still stealing my time.
I do want to find time for more Diablo 4 ahead of the expansion.
Whatever you are playing this weekend, have fun!
Re: The Crew Motorfest's Generous PS5, PS4 Update Looks Like an Entire New Game
I really enjoyed Motorfest, and recently installed it again, so this is welcome news.
Once you've adapted to its little idosyncrasies, its a fantastic open world racer which I found even more enjoyable than Forza Horizon 5. I dont say that lightly either as Im a big fan of Forza Horizon..
I see its also getting ps5 pro support, Id love a 120hz mode.
Re: Annapurna Interactive Exodus Sees Entire Staff Resign
They are very clearly very passionate about working on a game concept close to their hearts.
Its a shame the parent company were not prepared to back it, but I greatly admire them for leaving en mass to go and make the title they care about.
Id much rather play titles made with heart soul and commitment than the next EA or Ubi title designed by marketting men whos only passion is profit.
Re: PS5 Pro Announced, Costs $700 and Out in November
@KilloWertz
There is nothing unnecessary about this addition to the line up.
Many of us have TVs which make us uncomfortable playing games at 30hz, so having a machine more capable of 60hz play is essential to us if we want to play some titles, and now we have that option.
Trying to relate the price of a future generation based of the price of a luxury mid gen refresh intended for maybe 10% of sales, is simple lunacy and shows you have no buisness knowledge of the games sector at all, just alarmist illogical nonsense.
Wake up and realise what a stupid argument that is to make. You can like/ not like all you want, but your reasons are simply made up to justify an emotional response you clearly cant control. Take a deep breath mate, its just a product you dont like, your ps5 will work fine and a future ps6 will be priced towards the mass market.
I wish everyone could afford a pro. What a lovely world that would be. I wish everyone could afford a decent PC gpu, they are even more out of reach for most. However, if you want high performance you have to pay the funds required to get it.
New systems when designed, are designed to deliver the platform to a mass market audience at a level thats acceptable for the majority... they are not aiming at the 10% of us who will notice and pay for better.
Re: PS5 Pro Announced, Costs $700 and Out in November
@KilloWertz Im sorry, but everything you are saying is alarmist hyperbole and I utterly reject every supposition you make.
You are of course welcome to any view you wish to take. But dont expect me to prophesise the end of the console buisness simply because some angry online gamers want to rant cause they cant afford a luxury item that's clearly only for the committed few.
The ps5 buisness will remain exactly as it is, with the bulk of sales remaining for the best value standard machine, and the launch of the pro will hardly change the sales trajectory at all.
The sun will continue to rise, and within a week or two, the hyperbole mob will move on to the next 'disaster as they see it'.
Re: Poll: Would You Buy PS5 Pro If It Was Cheaper?
Im happy to buy it priced as is. My GPU cost £2k and Ive barely used it as I dislike PC gaming enourmously. £700 is not a big deal to some.
I bought a neo geo when they were released for huge money and used to pay between £120 and £150 for the games, and that was a lot of money back then.
Looking at what gpu you can buy for £700, the pro is still good value, if you want the best performance.
If not, then there nothing wrong with the current ps5, its not going anywhere and will play all the games. Those with us with spare cash and a desire to get more 60hz and more quality will buy, and it really shouldnt offend anyone else who doesnt need it or want to pay for it. I dont get offended by those who drive an Aston Martin simply because I cant afford to. But of course, we are online, its peoples job to find something to get offended by 😂
Re: 13 More Games Join PS Plus Extra, Premium Next Week
Good month for me again. As long as I average playing 2 titles a month Im happy and I would have bought the plucky squire for about £25, so its a good month.
Re: PS5 Pro Announced, Costs $700 and Out in November
@KilloWertz Nobody is twisting your arm. Stay with what you have and you still get to play everything.
Personally I think $600 for the new series X is too much, it has nothing new under the hood at all, so in that context, this is at least offering something for the extra, weather you want it or not.
With so many gamers now being all digital, forcing us to buy a machine with an unused drive would have been the rediculous decision, I havent used a game disc in over 5 years and dont need or want one. If you require one, it already exists and will work.
I could drive around in a little eurobox car and get where I want cheaply. I drive a merc cause I appreciate the difference.
I can get to play the games I want with my PS5. I will play on a ps5pro, cause I will appreciate the difference.
We have choice.
My GPU cost £2k by itself. A PS5 pro is certainly not rediculous in context, its just out of reach for those who are not enthusiasts and those with little spare income, as is any unnecessary luxury item.