arnoldlayne83

@Grawlog sure. Cimparison has been made with an analog shooter. Eso and FF are more online rpg than both Destiny and The Division, even if the latter is closer to them.

@SonyInfinity Actually this is one of the few Ubi games where I felt collectables are interesting to "collect". They all tell you a piece of the big story, and helps to get the grasp of the dying City.

On a general scale, I am liking the game a lot. The campaign is long and there are more things to do than Vanilla Destiny. Plus, all the main missions scales to 3 difficulty levels, daily challenges and size of the team, making them more re-playable. Also, you get a constant flow of loot, keeping you hooked (as long as you like loot games).

Overall a well crafted experience, let see what comes with upgrades and dlc, but the base is here and there is more content than the other console-MMO so far

@ShogunRok your example would be valid if after two year my smartphone won t be able anymore to run and do what I have bought it for: calling, messaging, skyping, surfing.

I buy a console because I expect that for 5-6 years I do not have to bother about hardware update. If this is not the case, it is better to get a gaming PC, so I can at least choose when an upgrade is needed and is not imposed by a greedy company that want to cut me out if I don t pay the upgrading fee....

This is also why I got disamoured of Nintendo with its stupid New3ds

And if this happens screw Sony, I will go back to PC gaming...

Considering how thin were the 2 costly dlcs I wonder how big will be this update.... They should actualise the older raids to the new light level, update Skolas, introduce some random event and make the year 1 loot useful again.... I doubt this will happen.

Anyway, I am totally into the Division now and waiting for Dark souls 3 and No Man's Sky, so I don't think I will go back to Destiny

You should all check DW8e after the latest patch. Now units move out of their base amd gameplay got a lot better.

I will wait to get this one, I saw the review coming since I saw Robert playing this last week. Thanks a lot for the review. Which did you enjoy the most Robert, this or DW8EMPIRES ?

@starhops we are all silent co protagonists in a movie where NY is the main star...

@BAMozzy the absence of trading in Destiny was good, otherwise interest would have faded in a week, considering how few decent weapons and armours are there...

Inbthe Division it seems the loot is much more varied, randomized and complex (each item has different modifiers, level and special perks) more like in Diablo or Borderlands. So i believe the total amount of combination is way bigger than Destiny. I would love to trade one of my ten knee armours with a silencer for my pretty pistol....

So far so very good. With a team (and even random matchmaking) is a blast. Bullet sponges happen only when you fight overlevelled enemies and yellow ones, but grenades, explosive shots and pulses can greatly reduce the effort to take them down. It is an rpg, anyway.
I also love that each main missions have 3 level of difficulties and they scales to your team size and higher team member level, so you can replay them all the time having a hard challenge. It is overall a surprisingly good game, coming from Ubisoft

It looks awesome.

@ShogunRok true that ubisoft did wrong recently, but after Unity debacle it seems they are trying to recover the trust. Also with the division, they were ablebto solve the server problem in a couple of hours despiteassice amount of users.

@adf86 I loved destiny and then slowly got pissed about it. So I am pretty happy The Division came, in order to satisfy that hunger left after Destiny weared out.

I played the beta and yesterday i reached lv.6. I am finding The Division much more "rpg-esque" than destiny, which was really a shoot and loot after all. Have you taken some time looking at all the abilities, perks and talents you can unlock? Have you seen that all the guns and equipments have dps, 3 modifier for each categories (which modifies your attack, defense and support) and parzicular perks like increased critical damage and or other bonuses? That's for telling you that it seems, up to now, a much more deeper game. I found better guns (dps-wise) than one I had, but i refrained to use them because of the perks I have on the older ones. Same goes with unlocking abilitites... I am still thinking if I should grow as a lone-wolf or more a support character for when I will play online with friends.... In destiny it is just a dumb run towards higher level and higher (read endgame) weapons, up to that point you don't really care about what your loot is, just that it can increase your light level. So at the end, 90% of the guns in destiny are pretty useless....
It is true that here, due to realistic setting, you can't have the "apocalipse 3000 mega-rocket-nuke launcher".... but you should focus more on the character build and perks. For me it is more rpg than it seems..... And I just mention that gunplay is waaaaay more tactical than destiny "shoot shoot bum bum and stay alive"

@Grawlog Agree with you, but as long we are not talking about a fighting / driving game and the framerate is constant around 30 fps, I can enjoy spectacular graphics (and in that, the division is astonishing) for a shooter.

The game engine is pretty great on this one.

There is day night cycle.

Also, whyI should tweak the frame rate? It is running fairly smooth on ps4.

It seems nothing is forgiven anymore to Ubisoft, lately....

@Reverandjames agreed. Despite the ubihate. Looks great and gunplay is fantastic, is not easy at all. Also gameplay is very tactical.

@get2sammyb wow it hurts only watching it

Happy to see that they go for unusual ww2 theaters. After the north african campaing against afrikakorps they go for this one in my country during the civil war. It is weird for me (as italian) to listen people talking italian in soldier uniforms in videogames, our history of that time has never been considered too much in the Medias.

PvsZ GW2 for me. It is such an enjoyable coop/online shooter. Perfect game for half-hour long stints!

Option C: A picture of Trump screaming "Mexicans!" at us.

Why not having a double cover like fallout 4 with both option in?

Then everyone is happy....

The art of this game is amazing, true "vintage" sci fi... I am loving it (and is probably the best part of Destiny too).

This limited edition has written "buy me" all over the place

@get2sammyb hey Sammy, first, thanks for the interesting video and info you gave us! Second: that kitchen is too much pink, for real! Third: have you tried a lil the flying mechanics? Can you dogfight with other ships and upgrade them with weapons? If yes, is it enjoyable? Does factions and diplomacy exist in the game universe?

Thanks a lot.

Rebel galaxy, I was just waiting for a discount

While I understand people's waryness, I very much enjoyed the beta wiith my team, so it will probably be day 1 for me anyway

I don't understand all this fuss about. As usual, you can VOTE with your WALLET. Wait for the game to be released, inform yourself and then decide if it's a good value for your money.

Personally, I won't judge by the amount of people that made it, but about the ration price/playing hours or level of enjoyment it gives to you. That's all should matter to us.

It is not a lazy remaster with small texture update and nothing else like Twilight Princess....

Lets also say that everytime this "experiment" was done in the past the result was to split the fanbase and then few games came out for the updated console version.

Look at N3ds, after more than one year we just got a couple of games that are exclusives for the upgraded hardware....

Basically Phil want to introduce hardware DLC.

You' ll buy xbox2 with the season pass for a couple of RAM and an extra cpu

And the day this happens, that would be the end of console gaming...

If I wanted to update, I would buy a PC...

@Bad-MuthaAdebisi me too. But I have the feeling we have seen a very small percentage of the whole game... Have you seen how many menus and base areas were locked?

@Bad-MuthaAdebisi the story will revolve about this quarantined NY with rival gangs fighting for control and the investigation about the virus, was it an intentional spread? Sure, base building is important because the levelling is separated among guns, equipment and perks(the latter is the base related one).

Happy birthday my dear pretty little thing!

@Bad-MuthaAdebisi there was intentionally no story in the beta... How can you judge it with 2 "story" missions that essentially revolved about estabilishing you base camp? It is a beta....

The beta won me. I passed from "looks like destiny all over again" to "looks like how destiny should have been...".
The loot is frequent, random and not pointless (not like in destiny: at low level every gun looks and shoots the same, at high level only exotics with highest light matters). Modding the weapons is fun and really change the gunplay style. You are not bound to 3 stupid, almost equal, static classes. You can experiment your build and switch perks on fly (foggy-snowy day? Take your sniper rifle and pulse perk for being invisible killer). DZ is surprisingly dynamic, as PvPvE area, me and my buddies passed from deatmatch to team deathmatch to zone control to all vs 1 to all vs bots. Extraction zone is a great mechanic that build up tension among players. The gunplay is very tactical, you can equip your team with different weapons (LMG for suppression fire, shotguns for closing gap, sniper for recon). You can really apply squad combat tactics to this game. You can grind the same mission for better, guaranteed loot (not like in destiny where story missions and patrols are useless).

My only concern is a general emptyness of the map. I hope they add more random encounters/factions war. But Dev said the stripped down the beta, so I am positive. Other issue is that the balance in the rogue mechanic. DZ can be a annoying mess or a boring friendly zone according to the oercentage of rogue agents at time. Devs have to fight the right point where turning rogue is good for you but risky, so a balance is guaranteed

The Division.... I love the dynamic mechanics that are created in the dark zone and the tension that builds up at extraction zone. I am liking the game so far and the loot has more sense than in Destiny. I wish that New york would be more filled with enemies and random events. At times you just wander for minutes without anything happening...

You just need to install an update. No need for the whole thing

Meanwhile WiiU is dead.... Sigh...

Can't wait for Valkirya to come in the west. I never played the original but gameplay wise looks great!

I don't understand what it is.... but the graphic is atrocious.... looks like 10 years old game....

While it is undoubtly a nice feature, I can't play videogames while my beloved team plays, expecially in Champions League. That said.... FORZA JUVE!!!!

The amount of effort they puton this game is amazing. They completely recovered from the initial debacle in my eyes

Nahhhh

@ShogunRok I would love a more western adaptation of Musou games.... I know they did some years ago.... Roman empire, greeks or the crusades would be great sceneries for massive scale battles.

Thank you for your great review Rober, I was waiting for it.

The demo gave me the impression of an almost empty, bland musou.... I am sad that your review confirmed that impression. I was hoping for a grand scale musou with more strategy and tactics than DW series, but it looks like it is not. I ll skip this, fortunately on ps4 we already have some great musou in which i can sink myself...

Done... But hey! Where is Ps Vita???

Good news! I liked a lot the first on Vita. Would be great if the sequel has a seamless open world in which players can roam without the limited "rooms" like MH

Still dreaming about a mass effect trilogy supperduppa enanched mega complete edition on ps4...

On Fallout 4 I have just reach the point where being a Brother of Steel really matters (you onow what I mean, up in the sky....). It got me hooked till 5 am yesterday night.... So more fallout for me and a bit of lootfest on my beloved Borderlands HC...

It looks like a Helldivers clone, with extremely clumsy character animations... I'll stick with the Arrowhead's masterpiece, still one of the best exclusives on ps4 so far

This is becoming a joke.... if I remember correctly it should have been a WiiU launch title....