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The estimates aren't really that high, but this is one of those situations where if it sells well people will say it should have been on PC all along and if it sells poorly people will say it's because it wasn't on PC at launch.

From what I can see, Rebirth did pretty well on PS5 to begin with, but Square Enix obviously always has extraordinary expectations.

The first 10 of the year has arrived early!

@AhmadSumadi Not really, no. But it does give us a reference point. So we can certainly conclude that Spider-Man 1 PC had a stronger launch than Spider-Man 2 PC.

Same with God of War vs God of War Ragnarok and Horizon Zero Dawn vs Horizon Forbidden West.

But you're quite right, it's not telling us the full story.

Seems highly likely at this point.

Very interesting responses so far.

@Drago201 Some of them have been good ports, but it's been very hit or miss for sure.

I agree with @mariomaster96, if Spider-Man 2 wasn't ready to go they didn't have to launch it last week.

The game's already out on console so they could have easily spent a few more months working on the port, and used that time to do a bit more advertising as it seemed to drop out of no where.

As it stands, they've ruined their first impression now.

Ultimately they bought two massive third-party publishers so of course they’re in a good position to become a third-party publisher.

They’d have to REALLY f*ck up to not be!

@EfYI Why the Yakuza hate haha?

@JokerBoy322 Sony has tons and tons of competition.

@trev666 They’re going to port them, yeah.

@rjejr Fable is a new game, though.

@adit365 I hope not!

@RoldokBio They do say they’re adding more so I’m sure they’ll get there.

@nessisonett Sea of Thieves did get discounted quite quickly so there may be some good deals soon after launch.

The game is obviously quite old at this point, even if the port is new.

@IOI It's not just Jez Corden saying this, though.

@Member_the_game Forza Motorsport may happen but Gran Turismo 7 is so much better I think it probably won't be as popular.

Horizon will be massive though.

@Titntin I was very happy! Haha!

@HamKnight Yes, but you're projecting that those droughts are going to occur. We know Death Stranding 2, Ghost of Yotei, and potentially Marvel's Wolverine are launching this year. Sounds like a strong lineup to me.

Let's wait for the droughts to actually occur before we start worrying about it.

@HamKnight There really has been no drought haha. I know people keep willing this into existence, but they released Game of the Year like three or four months ago.

Let’s see what 2025 brings.

Finally! This will sell by the bucket load on PS5!

@Dalamar It’s kinda like Final Fantasy 7 Remake, right? Fair point, though, I didn’t describe that well. Will edit.

I've wanted Pac-Man World Re-Pac for a while. Will play!

@Americansamurai1 To be fair, through the history of time, games have always ended up getting cancelled.

Obviously it doesn't look great from the outside, and like I said I'm a little sceptical of what's been going on too.

But let's wait and see how things develop from here. We don't know the full story yet.

@Atreus97 That's not true. Hulst had a great reputation at Guerrilla which got him the gig in the first place. He's since also signed a deal with Kojima to make a new espionage game and has overseen several first-party hits, including their fastest-selling game ever in Helldivers 2.

Obviously the stuff with Concord was not good and I'm a little sceptical of some of his decisions, but they clearly still have confidence in him.

This is just incredible.

@rjejr They're both currently announced for 2025, yeah.

@Marquez Well, you’d assume a version developed natively for Switch 2 would take more advantage of its hardware.

Would be nice to get these on modern consoles, if only for preservation purposes.

It's obviously true these games were always best on PC though.

@AverageGamer Yeah but even if that's the case, if you're buying Microsoft games through Steam on an Xbox they're losing 30% of the income. Not to mention the online pay wall.

@carlos82 I still have my DC copy of MSR but sadly sold Tokyo Xtreme Racer. 😭

This looks really, really good!

@GymratAmarillo I think Sony's going to market GTA 6 like it's an exclusive.

They're not paying to promote Call of Duty anymore so they have a massive marketing budget burning a hole in their pocket, and I suspect it's all going to be spent on GTA 6.

@LifeGirl I see a lot of people saying this but it just doesn't seem realistic.

If they're opening up their platform to, say, Steam then they're creating an environment where their customers may buy the hardware and never give Microsoft another cent.

That's fine, but consoles are subsidised and affordable because they force you into their own ecosystem. (PS5, for example, requires you to use the PS Store and pay to play online.)

Get rid of that and you're basically looking at a very expensive piece of hardware.

@MisterNintendo I suppose the only thing I can think of is, like, what else is he supposed to say?

But then, he's the one who insists on constantly doing these interviews despite their flip-flopping strategy.

It makes sense I suppose. I always thought planted leaks were quite common as a means to rat out those sharing secret information.

@neillaw There is no monopoly. PlayStation has more competition than ever.

@Mikey856 Of course, they are combined yes.

@JAMes-BroWWWn But the gap increased again last year, so it’s sustained momentum and not just early momentum?

@Oz_Who_Dat_Dare I'm not worried about PlayStation really.

Xbox is offering next to no competition as it is, and Sony cannot sh*t the bed with PC growing and Switch 2 coming.

They need to work just as hard as ever, if not harder.

@Rich33 They have to support it but they don’t necessarily have to do anything with it if you get me.

@0niguy They all have to run on it but don’t necessarily need to be enhanced for it. But yes, safe to assume most games will be enhanced.

@Czar_Khastik Sigma is in the Master Collection.

@breakneck Yeah they clearly have a good relationship with KT.

@breakneck Xbox physical sales are even weaker than PlayStations. Plus they’re selling this version globally and PS is just more popular worldwide.

@ChopperCampbell Or do both?

Sold!!!

@Max_the_German December 2023, which the 18% decline is being compared to, was a single month sales record for a PlayStation console.

@Americansamurai1 It's genuinely incredible how successful Helldivers 2 has been.

It’s almost impossible to say as we don’t really know how they were approaching it.

This looks so freakin' good! OMG!