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@TooBarFoo why do you say that? It looks like it has been designed to dissipate heat from the top and the sides.

I think it's fantastic. If i close my eyes, I can vividly recall the PSONE, PS2 and PS3 but the PS4 barely resonates. The PS5 is clearly going to be divisive and I think it will be a lot more impressive in the flesh, but I feel Sony have done a phenomenal job with the design.

@Makina good thing you're not a console designer eh.

Nice! Can't ever have enough Astrobot!

Someone's been watching a lot of Ghibli films.

Donut Media. Nice!

14/15 and the one I got wrong was Pacman World. I feel ashamed.

@Rob_230 announcement on the same day? Sony acquires SEGA and all its back catalogue and proceeds to release ps5 versions of Shinobi, Outrun, Afterburner and other classics. OR SEGA acquires PlayStation and proceeds to... release a CD expansion and 32bit upgrade?

@Tharsman trust me, I'm not so high - minded to think that way and I'm always happy to listen to multiple perspectives and change my stance when wrong. In the case of the PS3 and BC, the proof is in the pudding - the removal of the latter had no negative impact on sales (worth noting that only ps2 support was removed).

Additionally I'm a proponent of BC and would be ecstatic if a fully-featured BC function was implemented. At the same time I'm pragmatic enough that if Sony chose to only include the purported ps4 BC and focus the rest of their efforts on ps5 software, I would not feel I'm being hard done by.

@Tharsman I'd be careful about the definition of heavily criticised. Certainly a vocal minority were upset but the reduced cost that came with the removal of BC (and other factors) did wonders for sales.

I'm an old-head and I try to look at things as objectively as possible. BC is a nice-to-have for sure but it's not a defining feature by any means (and I spend at least half my gaming time on "retro" games). If we look at the big picture no company has ever done it right over multiple generations although this is not limited to gaming by any means.

Your point about optical media is well-taken. In a past life I supported optical engineers so I fully understood both the similarities and the rather costly differences between optical media.

@Tharsman yes, obviously Nintendo's earlier consoles all featured different media, just as PS1,2 AND 3 did (the fact that they are all optical is noted) and BC is clearly an easier proposition in the digital age.

And you'll have to forgive me for forgetting about the miserable 7800 and it's 1 million units sold and an optional adapter that failed to make any significant impression.

My overall point is that it's interesting there has been a reversal in stance related to BC and it's really only this generation or the one prior that a big deal has been made of it (made all the more interesting considering how quickly games are discounted and how ubiquitous they've become)

@themcnoisy I think what you're saying is perfectly reasonable. Ideally most or all ps4 games will work on ps5 but if not, some potential early adopters will decide to hold off. No big deal really.

@feral1975 they also played SACDs and had memory stick support. That was pretty cool.

@Tharsman Nintendo did not offer any BC on home consoles until the Wii. NES, SNES, N64 and GC were all completely stand-alone and same for Switch if I'm not mistaken. In fact, you could argue that Nintendo were the first company to leverage their back catalogue and sell "remasters" of older properties. Sony led the way offering BC when no other console maker had previously done so (Atari, no. Sega, no). Interesting that they've changed their respective stances and this is the generation where gamers want to draw the line.

@RBMango say what? So your advice to a tech company is to focus on nostalgia vs innovation.

I'm a big retro gamer but while I wouldn't mind if ps5 has done BC functionality, I'd much prefer Sony focus on the future rather than the past.

Slow news day?

Reminds me of Bushido Blade in that aspect. Nice!

Reminds me of the B&W mode in LA Noire. I played the whole way thru in B&W and loved every second.

Wow wow wee wow! This looks awesome!

@get2sammyb Nice! Would look even better with Blasto and Rosco McQueen in the mix!

Sweeeeeet! Gonna grab this for sure.

Grew up with C64 (and still use one) so the load times these days are more than bearable.

Radical! Time to hang ten again dude!

In all seriousness, very excited about this. TH2 one of my top games of all time.

@Neolit haha. I know the feeling. I used to think it was impossible to fall asleep playing videogames but now it's a regular occurrence!

Trading IPs... that could make for a fun game.

Does that Orc have bewbs? If not, why is he wearing a bikini top?

Time to turn to the dark side!

@shuvamg009 "Not the first time either. Everytime they dominate a generation, then absolutely botch the next ( atleast since PS2 days)..."

So.... they've botched it... once? I gather you mean the PS3? The 5th biggest selling console of all time. The one that sold more than all SEGA consoles combined? The one that sold more than the XBOX 360 which is the best selling Microsoft console?

Nice combination of generalisation and hyperbole (everytime! absolutely!) but pretty much any other console manufacturer would kill for Sony's track record (ranked 1,2,3 and 5 in sales) and based on consumer interest, the PS5 might do okay too.

Selfishly I hope they keep Farming Simulator at least. I have Cities (and think it's decent but no Sim City) but wouldn't mind trying FS.

Good stuff for sure. Though it has to be said that Blue Edges looks awfully like the Japan - only PSX (which was an awesome design) : https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcTGC-6xCwYrkv5Kmhych0ZeDdkny0_xBLtheY1uCqV1k0biNXMK&usqp=CAU

(sorry for the link, I always forgot how to do the screenshot thing)

This looks rad!

The visual design is repugnant.

Nice! Will check these out!

@SoulChimera thanks. I have the one that's on ps4 now but it didn't stack up to my memory of the n64 version. Makes sense now.

How does it differ from the pod racing game that's already on ps4?

@GoblinKing86 same here. I have 5 controllers, all used frequently and all stored properly (for the most part). All are fully functional and in good nick. In saying that, I don't think the amount of gaming me and my family puts in even comes close to the amount some of our fellow posters do, so I wouldn't be surprised if there's plenty of instances of wear and tear even if well treated.

When I first showed the ps5 controller to my wife she said it looked like AIBO. I guess AIBO and Astrobot are not a million miles apart design-wise.

@Shigurui no boner I'm afraid. Can't really get it up for try hard, holier than thou types who come in here with a bad attitude about everything and call themselves Shigurui to boot.

@Shigurui no speakers in your house either?

@Shigurui technically any headphones can be used as a microphone. Better get rid of them before they starting coming after you.

The last one is hilarious.

@Shigurui cool story bro

@roe I was thinking the same thing. Thanks for posting that. I liked the indented sticks as well and thought the DualShock4 was a nice in-between of those and the standard sticks.

I like it! A lot!

The only April Fools I see is that Moon Cresta and Terra Cresta are supposedly "side scrollers".

So, it's terafloptional?

@NomNom The company I work for is 100% virtual (meaning we don't have any offices) so I predominantly work from home and I work just as hard as I did compared to when I worked in an office. In fact, a lot of people end up working too hard when they make the shift to working at home as the lines between work and life start to blur.

Anyway, good on Sony for taking care of their people.

I think people would just complain that they're not getting games they want.

Sad that this article has 5 comments but the one on Nintendo and their IP has over 80 comments. Support the dreamers y'all.

Yeah, that seemed pretty much in line with what was said at the deep dive.