@__jamiie it's a disingenuous argument. The PSVR2 didn't cost you that much, a PS5 and the VR2 did.
The target audience for the VR2 are those who already have a PS5, that's your baseline. From there both are essentially the same price and to suggest you're paying the whole 1200 for the VR2 is wilful ignorance.
@__jamiie But they're essentially the same price? Or are you arguing that PS5 is needed? Cause if you're on here then chances are you already have one, no?
I think there's a bit of detail missing from the article. While the PSVR2 haptics won't be functional the controller rumble will still be. A shame but the reality is that none of the PCVR games utilise the headset feature so it's moot.
Likewise about HDR - it's still utilising OLED panels so the blacks will be true blacks and the colours will still look less washed out as a result.
Most of the things missing aren't used by any other games at present. This is still a great option where, if comparing to it's most direct competitor the Quest 3, you're looking at a tradeoff of either standalone use/pankcake lenses vs functionality with PS5/PSVR2 games and OLED.
The PSVR2 versions of games are generally the best versions and their exclusives are still absolute bangers, so it's a decent value proposition for any PS5 owners on the fence about whether they want to try VR and those fortunate enough to have a PS5 and gaming PC. Nearly all the best games (and mods) will be available via PSVR2 now which is a win.
@RBMango Same here. Their reddit page used to be really fun, now it's 98% complaints about one thing or another, even complaints about complaints. It's no longer an enjoyable component of the HD2 community which is a damn shame as that's part of what's fueled it's popularity.
The bipolarity of their fanatacism is over the top and a real turnoff. Thankfully the game and online playerbase is still awesome (despite what some of the posts would have you eblieve)
I think they're just going to have to incentivise the PSN account side of things. Actually hoping they do and make it something that'd annoy the whiners to miss out on.
I'm happy that Sony will listen if enough people are loud enough (how vocal do we need to be to get a PSVR2 roadmap?) but this was a massive overreaction for something players were warned about from the start then started acting like they were blindsided.
The toxicity around the issue (or any balance changes Arrowhead make that inconvenience them for that matter) is unwarranted.
Reflective of the childish overreaction by most. There was a real issue with those outside of PSN serviced countries potentially not being able to play but the real backlash was by those mildly inconvenienced and then acting outraged that their data could be scraped. Absolute babies about it.
I knew it would have been Takashi "reporting" this before I'd even seen his name in the article. His often baseless clickbait should have had his contract with Bloomberg ended by now.
I would bail from the squad immediately, the pressure associated with extraction of limited resources is a massive part of the appeal and camaraderie with this game
@get2sammyb any chance this list could be updated with the games mentioned above in the comments? Your list is super thin compared to what's actually been announced.
The original Burnout was the most intense game I've ever played. High stakes and super unforgiving with maximum adrenaline. The others are fantastic and built on the formula but I always appreciated how savage that game was.
@thefourfoldroot1 100% this. All of the hybrid games (incl RE4) I've held off playing until I could play in VR due to the superior immersion.
Being able to play in VR is transformative and brings the promised land of AAA quality to the headset as the financial prospects of a studio aren't limited to only VR sales.
@riceNpea Once you complete the campaign there are 3 additional characters you can then play through with, all with unique abilities that will encourage you to change your playstyle as a result.
@ThorsHammer GT7 and a firewall ultra are also both 1st party (albeit one of those not living up to expectation). Rather than studio perhaps the focus should be on what's exclusive, where you can throw REVillage and shortly RE4 into the mix, which were both heavily funded by Sony.
A roadmap for new titles is so overdue though, although that extends to flat PS5 games too. Sony has been coasting lately and not showing very much at all that's in the pipeline.
@Jaz007 yeah really not sure what people claiming it's dead are on about, like seriously were you expecting AAA bangers each week or something?
The PS5 itself has about 3 legitimate new-gen only games so far. There's been a pandemic that started 3 years ago significantly impacting studios that everyone seems to have forgotten about that was right in the development time frame of most games.
That said, I think Sony's silence about upcoming 1st party titles is insulting (and that includes regular PS5 games too which people seems also to forget) which feeds the sentiment, which no doubt impacts the interest of potential new buyers.
@gabuloid really? I've found it absolutely awesome. Could obviously do with more marketing from Sony/a first party titles roadmap but other than that it's stacked with games. Even with what ports it has most of them are the best version of that game.
As someone who didn't already have quest or PCVR I'm absolutely stoked with it. GT7, Pavlov and RE8 alone made it worth the price of admission and there's tonnes more than that. Easily the best gaming experiences I ever had.
@LordAinsley Yep finally bought it last week and it's great. I don't even usually like rail shooters like that but it's high quality, including the visuals.
@Art_Vandelay it hadn't missed the tone of the reply but I didn't think anyone had actually heard from them on it yet. If that's really their response it's disgraceful.
@Art_Vandelay like I said, keen to hear what they've actually got to say for themselves post-release about it. A lot of people were super keen on this and so far it's been blatantly falsely advertised.
@SoulChimera they unambiguously said that it would be playable in full: "If you go into battle with your PS VR2 as your flight helmet, you’ll feel the rush of combat across the entire game experience, too."
Gonna need an explanation from the devs on this, hope it's a good one haha.
@Gooseman42 the way this has been released is an absolute joke. Hoping that there's a legitimate bug here given the whole original campaign is playable on PCVR but Sony really needs to pick up their QA practises.
Comments 107
Re: 'It Makes Sense Why the PS5 Pro Price Is So High,' Say Tech Experts
The PS6 will cost at least this, but i reckon it'll be $700.
People seem to ignore that gaming has actually been getting cheaper vs inflation for the last 2 decades, which isn't sustainable.
Re: Fatal Run 2089 Revives Atari's Classic Combat Racer on PS5
UEVR injector for the win!
Re: More Spicy Helldivers 2 Drama as Freedom's Flame Backlash Boils Over
Pack of babies throwing their toys out of the cot again
Re: Tiebreak Aims to Topple TopSpin 2K25 with a Huge Licensed Roster on PS5, PS4
Bring back smash court tennis!
Re: Metro Awakening the Subject of New PSVR2 Screenshots
@__jamiie it's a disingenuous argument. The PSVR2 didn't cost you that much, a PS5 and the VR2 did.
The target audience for the VR2 are those who already have a PS5, that's your baseline. From there both are essentially the same price and to suggest you're paying the whole 1200 for the VR2 is wilful ignorance.
Re: Metro Awakening the Subject of New PSVR2 Screenshots
@__jamiie But they're essentially the same price? Or are you arguing that PS5 is needed? Cause if you're on here then chances are you already have one, no?
Re: PSVR2's PC Adapter Available on 7th August, Costs $60
I think there's a bit of detail missing from the article. While the PSVR2 haptics won't be functional the controller rumble will still be. A shame but the reality is that none of the PCVR games utilise the headset feature so it's moot.
Likewise about HDR - it's still utilising OLED panels so the blacks will be true blacks and the colours will still look less washed out as a result.
Most of the things missing aren't used by any other games at present. This is still a great option where, if comparing to it's most direct competitor the Quest 3, you're looking at a tradeoff of either standalone use/pankcake lenses vs functionality with PS5/PSVR2 games and OLED.
The PSVR2 versions of games are generally the best versions and their exclusives are still absolute bangers, so it's a decent value proposition for any PS5 owners on the fence about whether they want to try VR and those fortunate enough to have a PS5 and gaming PC. Nearly all the best games (and mods) will be available via PSVR2 now which is a win.
Re: PS5 Players Are Buying Fewer New Games, But Spending More Than Ever Overall
As a PSVR2 user I've bought about 20 more games in the past year than any year before that
Re: Helldivers Turn on Arrowhead Following Undemocratic Firing of Community Manager
@RBMango Same here. Their reddit page used to be really fun, now it's 98% complaints about one thing or another, even complaints about complaints. It's no longer an enjoyable component of the HD2 community which is a damn shame as that's part of what's fueled it's popularity.
The bipolarity of their fanatacism is over the top and a real turnoff. Thankfully the game and online playerbase is still awesome (despite what some of the posts would have you eblieve)
Re: Helldivers 2 May Turn Negative Steam Reviews into a Fashionable In-Game Cape
@ShogunRok you read my kind with that first comment haha. Maybe 4 tears running down the cape.
Re: Helldivers 2 PSN Requirement Backtracked on PC After Brutal Review Bombing Campaign
I think they're just going to have to incentivise the PSN account side of things. Actually hoping they do and make it something that'd annoy the whiners to miss out on.
I'm happy that Sony will listen if enough people are loud enough (how vocal do we need to be to get a PSVR2 roadmap?) but this was a massive overreaction for something players were warned about from the start then started acting like they were blindsided.
The toxicity around the issue (or any balance changes Arrowhead make that inconvenience them for that matter) is unwarranted.
Re: Review Bombers Were Even Attacking Other Games Made by Helldivers 2 Dev
Reflective of the childish overreaction by most. There was a real issue with those outside of PSN serviced countries potentially not being able to play but the real backlash was by those mildly inconvenienced and then acting outraged that their data could be scraped. Absolute babies about it.
Re: Helldivers 2 Players Encountering Factory Striders in Unprecedented Numbers
I'm loving the regular war effort coverage
Re: Transmog System 'Doesn't Make Sense' in Helldivers 2, Says CEO
This guy seems to underestimate how much demand there is for apples to taste like bacon
Re: Random: Seven Years Later, No Man's Sky's Reputation Is Slowly Improving
Hell yes it's amazing in the PSVR2
Re: Sony Allegedly Pausing PSVR2 Production Due to Surplus of Unsold Stock
I knew it would have been Takashi "reporting" this before I'd even seen his name in the article. His often baseless clickbait should have had his contract with Bloomberg ended by now.
Re: Helldivers 2 PS5 Patch Adds Planetary Hazards, Rebalances Weapons, More
Seems to be crashing more eon PS5 these past couple of days unfortunately
Re: Incoming Helldivers 2 PS5 Patch Adds Planetary Hazards, Rebalances Weapons, More
@RBMango apparently it's been nerfed a little more than is ideal. Hopefully they'll rebuff it a bit
Re: Capcom Confirms Two-Day Showcase, Featuring Dragon's Dogma 2 and More
@Pat84 I'm praying to the Capgods that you're right on both fronts
Re: Poll: Are You Still Playing Helldivers 2?
Fully addicted with no signs of slowing down and have barely touched any of the automaton missions yet
Re: Heavy Armour Seemingly En-Route as Helldivers 2 Mech Gameplay Leaks
@Flashfordy2000 absolutely. Can play with randoms with or without voice chat too as you can use other means of communication. This game is sick
Re: Helldivers 2 War Effort Undermined by Sample Cheats and Traitors
I would bail from the squad immediately, the pressure associated with extraction of limited resources is a massive part of the appeal and camaraderie with this game
Re: Despite Recent Success, Bandai Namco Reveals It Cancelled at Least Five In-Development Games
Reallllllly hoping a new Ace Combat in VR didn't get turfed
Re: Helldivers 2 (PS5) - The Best Co-Op Shooter on PS5
Can confirm, is awesome in giant screen cinema mode on PSVR2
Re: Rumour: Astro Bot Will Return for Another PS5 Rescue Mission This Year
@2here2there Seems you didn't read the first paragraph
Re: New PSVR2 Games Release Dates in 2024
@get2sammyb any chance this list could be updated with the games mentioned above in the comments? Your list is super thin compared to what's actually been announced.
Re: New PSVR2 Games Release Dates in 2024
@Styledvinny79 that would be an epic win
Re: Subnautica Sequel Surfaces Unexpectedly, More Information Later This Year
VR would be amazing for this one
Re: New Burnout Game Possibly Teased in Developer Tweet
The original Burnout was the most intense game I've ever played. High stakes and super unforgiving with maximum adrenaline. The others are fantastic and built on the formula but I always appreciated how savage that game was.
Re: Fresh State of Play Rumours Running Rampant, Lots of Games Speculated
Metro Awakening (VR title) allegedly....
Re: TopSpin 2K25 Brings Back Ace Tennis Series After 13-Year Absence
Bring back Smash Court Tennis, still the GOAT
Re: Mini Review: Vertigo 2 (PSVR2) - Phenomenal VR Shooter Shares a Lot of DNA with Half-Life
@thefourfoldroot1 100% this. All of the hybrid games (incl RE4) I've held off playing until I could play in VR due to the superior immersion.
Being able to play in VR is transformative and brings the promised land of AAA quality to the headset as the financial prospects of a studio aren't limited to only VR sales.
Re: Mini Review: Vertigo 2 (PSVR2) - Phenomenal VR Shooter Shares a Lot of DNA with Half-Life
Stoked to see a VR game get more than 7/10 on PS, must be epic!
Re: Mini Review: Vertigo 2 (PSVR2) - Phenomenal VR Shooter Shares a Lot of DNA with Half-Life
@riceNpea Once you complete the campaign there are 3 additional characters you can then play through with, all with unique abilities that will encourage you to change your playstyle as a result.
Re: Earth-Sized MMO Light No Fire Is the Next Title from No Man's Sky Dev Hello Games
Fingers crossed VR is implemented early
Re: Mini Review: Arashi: Castles of Sin Final Cut (PSVR2) - Solid VR Swordfighter Is Rough Around the Edges
Reply hoping RE4's VR mode and Vertigo 2 get reviewed on this site.
Re: Resident Evil 4's Free VR Mode Is Out Next Week, PSVR2 Demo Available
@invictus4000 I had the same thing a couple of weeks back fully made me appreciate how amazing my home set up is
Re: Anticipated PSVR2 Shooter Vertigo 2 Finally Arrives in December
@ThorsHammer GT7 and a firewall ultra are also both 1st party (albeit one of those not living up to expectation). Rather than studio perhaps the focus should be on what's exclusive, where you can throw REVillage and shortly RE4 into the mix, which were both heavily funded by Sony.
A roadmap for new titles is so overdue though, although that extends to flat PS5 games too. Sony has been coasting lately and not showing very much at all that's in the pipeline.
Re: Poll: Do You Think GTA 6 Will Release on PS4?
VR compatibility please
Re: Assassin's Creed Nexus VR Looks Incredible, But It's Not Confirmed for PSVR2 Yet
@Jaz007 yeah really not sure what people claiming it's dead are on about, like seriously were you expecting AAA bangers each week or something?
The PS5 itself has about 3 legitimate new-gen only games so far. There's been a pandemic that started 3 years ago significantly impacting studios that everyone seems to have forgotten about that was right in the development time frame of most games.
That said, I think Sony's silence about upcoming 1st party titles is insulting (and that includes regular PS5 games too which people seems also to forget) which feeds the sentiment, which no doubt impacts the interest of potential new buyers.
Re: Assassin's Creed Nexus VR Looks Incredible, But It's Not Confirmed for PSVR2 Yet
@gabuloid really? I've found it absolutely awesome. Could obviously do with more marketing from Sony/a first party titles roadmap but other than that it's stacked with games. Even with what ports it has most of them are the best version of that game.
As someone who didn't already have quest or PCVR I'm absolutely stoked with it. GT7, Pavlov and RE8 alone made it worth the price of admission and there's tonnes more than that. Easily the best gaming experiences I ever had.
Re: Improved PSVR2 Rails Shooter The Dark Pictures: Switchback VR Adds Horde Mode
@LordAinsley Yep finally bought it last week and it's great. I don't even usually like rail shooters like that but it's high quality, including the visuals.
Re: Assassin's Creed Nexus VR Looks Incredible, But It's Not Confirmed for PSVR2 Yet
Pretty sure it was officially a meta exclusive until recently. Not sure why the change but I'd imagine a port would take a while.
Re: PS Store Slashes 500+ PS5, PS4 Game Prices for Halloween
Cannot wait for the VR mode of RE4!
Re: Do a Barrel Roll in Project Wingman: Frontline 59 on PS5, PSVR2
@Art_Vandelay it hadn't missed the tone of the reply but I didn't think anyone had actually heard from them on it yet. If that's really their response it's disgraceful.
Re: Do a Barrel Roll in Project Wingman: Frontline 59 on PS5, PSVR2
@Art_Vandelay like I said, keen to hear what they've actually got to say for themselves post-release about it. A lot of people were super keen on this and so far it's been blatantly falsely advertised.
Re: Do a Barrel Roll in Project Wingman: Frontline 59 on PS5, PSVR2
@SoulChimera they unambiguously said that it would be playable in full: "If you go into battle with your PS VR2 as your flight helmet, you’ll feel the rush of combat across the entire game experience, too."
Gonna need an explanation from the devs on this, hope it's a good one haha.
Re: Do a Barrel Roll in Project Wingman: Frontline 59 on PS5, PSVR2
@Gooseman42 the way this has been released is an absolute joke. Hoping that there's a legitimate bug here given the whole original campaign is playable on PCVR but Sony really needs to pick up their QA practises.
Re: Netflix's Onimusha Anime Looks Legit Good in Action-Packed Debut Trailer
If Takashi is on board so am I, this will be wicked
Re: Capcom Shares Deep Dive into All the Upcoming Resident Evil 4 DLC
@Sil_Am I did