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@8bitOG I think the issue isn't with people struggling financially, but with people struggling financially who nonetheless get angry that they can't afford something expensive.

It's like being angry at Toyota for giving you two options and you can only afford the first. Clearly the second isn't meant for you.

Personally, I can't justify the price of the pro, so I'll stick with the one I have. If I had more disposable income, I'd get it. And I totally appreciate that for some it's a matter of principle.

@LifeGirl "If you can afford a regular PS5 then you can afford this.
Saying that all of the haters of the Pro are poor is some seriously delusional cope."

Yes, if we ignore all the people, including Sammy, who have said they're interested in it, but can't afford the Pro, then you're absolutely correct.

@Fighting_Game_Loser Nintendo is still doing exceptionally well. And ps5 has sold enough consoles for Astro Bot to be a huge success. Yet here we are.

@Leon_93 or complain about shutting down Japanese studios. Simply put, the average Playstation gamer couldn't care less, sadly.

It's why the brilliant Tearaway failed miserably on ps4.

But I thought good game = sales

What, no?

@Maubari thanks for missing my point.

@Maubari Not really. Only enthusiasts/some hardcore gamers will buy a ps5pro. There is no way it'll do as well as the current model. Sony can't possibly charge that much for their main console. They know that with or without a serious competitor, they can't lose the casuals. And there is no way casuals will spend that much for a ps6 or a ps5pro and abandon the base model.

@Anthony_Daniels well said. I mean, it's something completely optional. I most likely won't be getting one, because I can't afford it. Simple as that.

@ButterySmooth30FPS my thoughts exactly. It's the reason I stopped buying Nintendo consoles in the first place.

@Jimmer-jammer didn't you hear? They're switching to PC, which is totally affordable, and to Nintendo, which is an excellent idea considering how Nintendo never sell overpriced hardware.

@Art_Vandelay glad to hear that.

@Jimmer-jammer you make way too much sense. That's not the way to act online.

@LazyLombax nice! Hope you enjoy it.

Is anyone buying it?

I hope it sells well, but every time a game sells well and people post "of course it did. Make a good game and people will buy it", I simply laugh. It doesn't work that way. Quality has very little to do with sales, unfortunately.

@Bez87 exactly. And I think the point that you raise that they don't just magically become CEOs or whatever from the get go is incredibly important. It's the same with many (but not all) actors. They're not as out of touch with reality as many people think, because a whole lot of them started so poor that they didn't have enough to eat. That obviously stays with you.

That's taking things out of context at its finest.

He's saying it's temporary. If you keep up with advancements in your field and do something to support yourself (when the severance package money -if there is any- runs out), sooner than later, you'll get another job. Just don't give up or feel defeated. That's the message

@LiamCroft ouch!

I think Liam made a similar claim a year or two ago. People were up in arms and I don't think they've changed their mind about this.

Even it were technically live-service, it's not how it's used by the average person.

@Andee exactly. I mean, I don't see it doing well, but the fact that it's unplayable isn't one of the reasons.

@Dodoo my thoughts exactly. Money talks. If companies see single player games as good investments, they'll green light more of them.

Dear God! So happy for them. More news like this please

@Gaia093 Is it possible to beat it in a few days, in your opinion?

@AhmadSumadi I think the problem was that they were giving awards to people who were cheating big time and everyone else getting trophies legitimately was getting upset over it.

@StrickenBiged I think it's a little more nuanced than that.

Usually when people have decided to hate on something, they'll find any excuse. For example, with Concord the narrative was "How dare Sony make a game as service!!!1!". Then suddenly everything was a problem. Helldivers II was perceived well and everyone started buying it, despite its flaws. For some reason, being a gaas wasn't an issue.

Baldur's Gate 3 is another good example. The argument many people make repeatedly is that making the games diverse or having LGBT characters is a wrong decision because gamers are a) either people who hate that or b) people who don't play video games in the fist place. Yet the game did exceptionally well. Despite the "oh so horrible diversity".

@TheBigK I think in other cases, there was some hope that the game can be saved. Take Multiversus for example. It started out well, it became a hit for months and then it lost its audience. So, they thought, we can't produce enough material to keep them interested, let's take a break, create more and then relaunch it and offer them a a constant stream of content to make sure they're entertained and don't move on to the next big thing.

With Concord the numbers were so low that they probably realized that it's beyond saving. Who knows? We'll see.

@Wallace80 sure, buddy.

@OthmaneAD I love the "everything I don't like must be part of someone's agenda" mentality.

@Snick27 "For that im glad the game tank and hope people like this get fired."

Imagine this: one of your colleagues says something bad/wrong. And soon afterwards the company where you work at shuts down. And people celebrate you and everyone else losing your job.

How would you feel? You said nothing. It was a colleague/ manager, etc. who did, yet others are happy that you and every other employee are suffering.

tl;dr
If someone where you work says something indefensible, should others be glad that you lost your job?

@__jamiie then you should say exactly what you mean instead.

@__jamiie exactly. And everyone else is allowed to consider all the fuss over such matters blown out of proportion/silly.

Again, imagine a group of people constantly attacking devs who include female characters with red hair. Are they allowed to express their dislike? Of course! Are you allowed to consider the reaction over this particular matter silly? I think so.

@__jamiie you mean like the following examples?

e.g. "We need a new manager for the store down town. They will need to have some managerial experience to apply for the job."

"Find a babysitter who can prove they are responsible and are certified in CPR."

"An employee will not do a good job if they don’t have the right training."

"Someone was just here and they left their phone behind"
https://www.britannica.com/dictionary/eb/qa/The-Singular-They

@Anguspuss that's fascinating stuff. I took German ages ago, but didn't get very far, I'm afraid.

@__jamiie it's not needed, but what exactly is needed? Are revealing outfits needed? Are old characters needed? Are colourful environments needed? They're just choices that each developer makes. Some we like, some we don't, and some we're indifferent towards.

Simple as that.

@SlipperyFish exactly.

@Wallace80 ignorance intensifies.

@__jamiie they don't "need to". They chose to include them. We use pronouns all the time. When we say "I know him", "him" is a pronoun, so nothing is "forced upon" anyone.

Also, not all opinions are valid. If a group of people went on and on how they hate female characters with red hair, as if red hair was such a terrible thing, then yes you'd have every right to consider them and their opinion/obsession "garbage".

@Zenos confirmation bias at its finest.

@Maubari "haha funny" indeed. Read your post again and maybe you'll realize what I was specifically replying to.

If you want move the goalpost to include more games, then sure:

Genshin impact making as much profit as Playstation in an entire year
Fortnight
League of Legends
FFXIV
World of Warcraft
Roblox

and the list goes on.

"Next time before you try to act smart.. try and read up a little bit first, hmm?"

Gotta love the irony. Thanks for the laugh.

@Deityjester expiring quickly or not, it still sold 12m copies quite a while ago. That is a huge success no matter what.

@thefourfoldroot1 well said. If the influencers can scream at the camera, even better.

@Maubari If they do "NOT. WANT. LIVE SERVICE GAMES", who bought Helldivers II?

@Old-Red sure, buddy.

@Amin1998 absolutely, hence why Helldivers II is Sony's fastest selling game.
Also, why single games like Tearaway, Sackboy, Puppeteer, Concrete Genie sold so bad.

@djlard there are dolls and all sorts of things that are collector items. They don't have to work.

@Old-Red Even if all that were true (which is not), it'd still not be a cash grab. Not by a long shot.

A remaster that is almost identical to the original game, with the same issues, no effort made, costing as much as a new game would be a better example of a cash grab.

@PocketHotDogs so the few people who played it were imaginary?

@puddinggirl oh noes. Not the evil agendas that sank Baldur's Gate 3.

@Old-Red I don't see how this counts as a cash grab. They spent around 8 years making it. They charge far more for remakes of old games.

It's not like the game was barebones and bad all around. They put a lot of effort into it. It just wasn't enough.

At least it will give certain people some weird sense of satisfaction, so there is that.