I'm giving Ghost of Tsushima a try. Can't say it's entirely my cup of tea, but I can see it's a well made game. Also, decided to bite the bullet and get a ps portal, though my internet is terrible. Whenever it arrives, I'll find out if I should have opted for a Steam deck instead.
I've only played the Telltale Borderlands game and loved it. If it's anything like it, I'm sure I'll enjoy this movie. Most people are just too harsh nowadays.
@RoomWithaMoose hence why I never said that GaaS are wonderful and everyone should make one. But to generalize and say "One day devs will realise that making live service games is a waste of time and money" is simply wrong and games like Helldivers II prove so.
@WhiteRabbit I played Thumper once and I think I liked it. I still haven't bought Tetris Effect, though, because I find it a bit expensive, even with the price cut. When it goes below £20, I'll bite!
@WhiteRabbit Thanks I tried that with several games, but it breaks immersion. I just choose on rails games instead like Pistol Whip and Transformers or rhythmic games like Beat Saber and Beat the Beats. Synapse was ace, but also painful, so I only played it once and can't recommend it highly enough.
@IOI actually, it doesn't say "everything". It says something. It hasn't performed as well as they had hoped. But how exactly it has performed remains a mystery.
@Bez87 some very successful games never looked amazing or to have mass appeal before they took off. I mean, Minecraft with those graphics? Fall Guys with those controls? Rocket League, a game where you play football with ... cars? The untitled Goose game?
@WhiteRabbit yeah, I've heard about that from quite a few people, but I haven't played it myself (though I bought it last year I think). Walking in VR gives me migraines, unfortunately.
@MegaManX-7 I get what you're saying, but you still didn't answer my question. If you were in their shoes and had their limited budget, what would you do to make a sequel happen?
@CrashBandicoat considering how many gamers "cared" about The Last Guardian as opposed to how much it sold when it actually came out, this isn't a surprise at all.
@MegaManX-7 what would you do if you were in their shoes and wanted to make a sequel? It's not like they are a huge studio with seemingly unlimited funds, so in order to make a sequel, they need to convince potential investors that there is an interest in it.
@SmileMan64 of course it is. But Nintendo doesn't rely on those additional IPs. The success of Mario and Pokemon alone (especially considering how much less they cost compared to realistic games like God of War, The Last of Us, etc) is more than enough to carry Nintendo. Sony doesn't have that. The closest thing they've had to an evergreen title is Spider-man.
@TheDaddyOtaku that's because they know if one of them succeeds, it can be wildly successful (see Helldivers 2, the best selling game of the year so far). SOCOM and Killzone can sell decently, but they're unlikely to do particularly well. They may make a small profit.
@SmileMan64 Yes, but Nintendo has several strong IPs that have been milked to death. Can you imagine Sony making Little Big Planet tennis, Little Big Planet football, Little Big Planet RPG, etc? No matter how much they'd invest, their games would never be successful.
@Art_Vandelay no. Automation is absolutely fine. What's not fine is constantly trying to cut costs at the customer's expense. I find waiting in huge lines because they hire fewer and fewer people unacceptable. Same with forcing you to use online platforms and ATMs by charging for every single thing when you visit the bank (e.g. withdrawing money, cashing a check, writing a check, etc). Options are fine. Charging if you choose to interact with a human being, not so much.
Also, it depends on what counts for unemployment. In some countries, if you work two months per year, you're not counted as unemployed. In other countries, you are. And even if you are employed, if you don't make enough to support yourself and have to live with your parents (a worldwide phenomenon), then is unemployment the best criterion to use to determine the effects of automation or AI?
@nomither6 but their jobs were affected. Most banks I visit have very few employees working (usually one is supposed to help all customers, because almost everything is done online.
@FEWGEE1 plenty of older people love Lego games and they've offered hundreds if not thousands of games over the years. So that's an exaggeration if I ever saw one. They probably gave away just as many Assassin's Creed games through plus.
@CieloAzure obviously you don't have to support it, but for anyone who's genuinely interested in it, it has enough games to last for years even if no other game was released from today on. And more keep being announced. So, though Sony first party games are pretty much non existent, it's well supported by third parties.
@Tecinthebrain that's exactly how I feel about it. Really like the show back in the day and now I just separate the art from the artist and I still greatly enjoy it. If they could add both of them, it'd be a huge win for them.
@jrt87 actually it's literally impossible to talk about the majority. We have no evidence to make such a claim, either that most haven't tried it and that's the reason they don't see value in it or that most have and simply didn't like it.
I can only speak for myself. I really enjoyed some PSVR1 games, but hated setting it up every time. Playing PSVR games became a chore. The experience on PSVR2 has been vastly different. I almost play every day and love it. Had I not tried PSVR2, I'd probably think it's similar to the previous model and never bother to get it. But that's just me.
@LifeGirl you're missing the point people are raising. Obviously some have tried it and didn't like it for whatever reason. That goes without saying. Just like there isn't a single game ever released that every person on the planet has tried and liked/loved.
The point many are raising is that VR offers a unique experience that any kind of description pales in comparison to the product offered. There isn't something similar that one can compare it to to give others an idea of what it feels like. That's why some have suggested booths where one would get to try a game and see for oneself. They may like it, they may not, but at least they'll have first hand experience. As opposed to something like Stellar Blade or Mario Wonder whose appeal is obvious to someone interested in that kind of a game.
@B_Lindz I don't think Nintendo is an indication of anything. I mean, they don't offer price cuts for their games even when stop selling (e.g. Kid Icarus). It's a different strategy. Similar logic applies to their consoles. Even when they're struggling to sell, they're always sold with at least some profit in mind, as opposed to Sony and MS that are/were more willing to take a hit to reach more households.
Also, there is a reason ps2 and ps3 sale exploded after they got a price cut. It's not just games that sell a console, but also price and perceived value. That xbox boss was right when he said that the race to 10m consoles sold is the most important one. Whoever gets there first and with as wide lead from the second as possible, wins the console race, because most people tend to buy whatever is considered most popular.
@Nyne11Tyme Well said. I'm buying it day 1 to send Sony a message. I was playing Concrete Genie today for the first time and felt guilty for not supporting it when I had the chance to and getting it for free (though plus) instead.
Let's all embrace this game and make it a success!
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Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 541
@GeeEssEff Happy for you. It's simply brilliant!
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 541
I'm giving Ghost of Tsushima a try. Can't say it's entirely my cup of tea, but I can see it's a well made game. Also, decided to bite the bullet and get a ps portal, though my internet is terrible. Whenever it arrives, I'll find out if I should have opted for a Steam deck instead.
Re: Movie Review: Borderlands - As Bland As the Brand It's Based On
@Darude84 well, if you say so, it must be true.
Re: Movie Review: Borderlands - As Bland As the Brand It's Based On
@Darude84 gotta love ageism. Both Blanchet and Jamie Lee Curtis got an Oscar last year.
Re: Movie Review: Borderlands - As Bland As the Brand It's Based On
@Tecinthebrain washed up actors? Sure, Jan.
Re: Movie Review: Borderlands - As Bland As the Brand It's Based On
I've only played the Telltale Borderlands game and loved it. If it's anything like it, I'm sure I'll enjoy this movie. Most people are just too harsh nowadays.
Re: Suicide Squad the Villain Behind Warner Bros Gaming Revenue Drop
@RoomWithaMoose hence why I never said that GaaS are wonderful and everyone should make one. But to generalize and say "One day devs will realise that making live service games is a waste of time and money" is simply wrong and games like Helldivers II prove so.
Re: Suicide Squad the Villain Behind Warner Bros Gaming Revenue Drop
@Boxmonkey someone should tell Arrowhead.
Re: Half-Life: Alyx Conveniently Discounted Ahead of PSVR2's PC Adapter Launch
@WhiteRabbit I played Thumper once and I think I liked it. I still haven't bought Tetris Effect, though, because I find it a bit expensive, even with the price cut. When it goes below £20, I'll bite!
Re: Half-Life: Alyx Conveniently Discounted Ahead of PSVR2's PC Adapter Launch
@WhiteRabbit Thanks
I tried that with several games, but it breaks immersion. I just choose on rails games instead like Pistol Whip and Transformers or rhythmic games like Beat Saber and Beat the Beats. Synapse was ace, but also painful, so I only played it once and can't recommend it highly enough.
Re: Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth PS5 Sales Still a Secret as Square Enix Reports Year-on-Year Decline
@UltimateOtaku91 depends on how much it costs to be made
Re: Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth PS5 Sales Still a Secret as Square Enix Reports Year-on-Year Decline
@StrickenBiged how uncommon is that for the average game of similar length?
Re: Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth PS5 Sales Still a Secret as Square Enix Reports Year-on-Year Decline
@IOI actually, it doesn't say "everything". It says something. It hasn't performed as well as they had hoped. But how exactly it has performed remains a mystery.
Re: Concord's Animated Freegunner Adventures Continue as PS5, PC Launch Draws Closer
@Bez87 some very successful games never looked amazing or to have mass appeal before they took off. I mean, Minecraft with those graphics? Fall Guys with those controls? Rocket League, a game where you play football with ... cars? The untitled Goose game?
Re: Half-Life: Alyx Conveniently Discounted Ahead of PSVR2's PC Adapter Launch
@WhiteRabbit yeah, I've heard about that from quite a few people, but I haven't played it myself (though I bought it last year I think). Walking in VR gives me migraines, unfortunately.
Re: PS Plus Essential Has 3 More PS5, PS4 Games to Download Now
@Specky extra is still fantastic. I don't know what you're talking about.
Re: Shadows of the Damned 2 Possible if PS5, PS4 Remaster Sells Well
@MegaManX-7 I get what you're saying, but you still didn't answer my question. If you were in their shoes and had their limited budget, what would you do to make a sequel happen?
Re: Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth PS5 Sales Still a Secret as Square Enix Reports Year-on-Year Decline
I think the fact that it's a three part seriously affected its sales. I know I'm waiting for the complete edition, whenever it comes out.
Re: Half-Life: Alyx Conveniently Discounted Ahead of PSVR2's PC Adapter Launch
@CrashBandicoat considering how many gamers "cared" about The Last Guardian as opposed to how much it sold when it actually came out, this isn't a surprise at all.
Re: Half-Life: Alyx Conveniently Discounted Ahead of PSVR2's PC Adapter Launch
@Alpine021 no, that would be... huge.
Re: Half-Life: Alyx Conveniently Discounted Ahead of PSVR2's PC Adapter Launch
@Darth_Stofi Some would argue that Gran Turismo 7 is the best VR game.
Re: Shadows of the Damned 2 Possible if PS5, PS4 Remaster Sells Well
@MegaManX-7 what would you do if you were in their shoes and wanted to make a sequel? It's not like they are a huge studio with seemingly unlimited funds, so in order to make a sequel, they need to convince potential investors that there is an interest in it.
Re: Bungie Accused of Overselling Itself to Sony, Promising Success It Couldn't Deliver
@SmileMan64 of course it is. But Nintendo doesn't rely on those additional IPs. The success of Mario and Pokemon alone (especially considering how much less they cost compared to realistic games like God of War, The Last of Us, etc) is more than enough to carry Nintendo. Sony doesn't have that. The closest thing they've had to an evergreen title is Spider-man.
Re: Test Your PlayStation General Knowledge - Issue 24
4/10 here, too. Not surprised at all.
Re: This Could Be Your First Look at the PS5 Game from Sony's Newly Established PS Studio
@TheDaddyOtaku that's because they know if one of them succeeds, it can be wildly successful (see Helldivers 2, the best selling game of the year so far). SOCOM and Killzone can sell decently, but they're unlikely to do particularly well. They may make a small profit.
Re: Hand Animated PS5 Platformer The Eternal Life of Goldman Looks Incredible
Yes, please! Looks awesome.
Re: Bungie Accused of Overselling Itself to Sony, Promising Success It Couldn't Deliver
@SmileMan64 Yes, but Nintendo has several strong IPs that have been milked to death. Can you imagine Sony making Little Big Planet tennis, Little Big Planet football, Little Big Planet RPG, etc? No matter how much they'd invest, their games would never be successful.
Re: EA Sports College Football 25's Level of Detail Only Possible Through the 'Power of AI', Says EA
@Art_Vandelay sure, buddy.
Re: This Could Be Your First Look at the PS5 Game from Sony's Newly Established PS Studio
@AfroMario oh, noes. Not the evil colours.
Re: Reaction: Sony's Billion Dollar Bungie Buyout Is Looking More and More Like a Blunder
@tameshiyaku who talked about flops? There is a difference between being a flop and not selling well.
Re: Subscribe to EA Play for Less Than a Dollar on PS5, PS4
Alright, I'll bite!
Re: EA Sports College Football 25's Level of Detail Only Possible Through the 'Power of AI', Says EA
@Art_Vandelay no. Automation is absolutely fine. What's not fine is constantly trying to cut costs at the customer's expense. I find waiting in huge lines because they hire fewer and fewer people unacceptable. Same with forcing you to use online platforms and ATMs by charging for every single thing when you visit the bank (e.g. withdrawing money, cashing a check, writing a check, etc). Options are fine. Charging if you choose to interact with a human being, not so much.
Also, it depends on what counts for unemployment. In some countries, if you work two months per year, you're not counted as unemployed. In other countries, you are. And even if you are employed, if you don't make enough to support yourself and have to live with your parents (a worldwide phenomenon), then is unemployment the best criterion to use to determine the effects of automation or AI?
Re: Poll: Are You Playing Tomba! Special Edition?
@Kanji-Tatsumi at least it's reasonably priced
Re: Poll: Are You Playing Tomba! Special Edition?
Just bought it. Thanks for the reminder. Can't stress enough how excited I am to play it all over again!
I may buy a physical copy, too.
Re: Reaction: Sony's Billion Dollar Bungie Buyout Is Looking More and More Like a Blunder
@KillerBoy those games didn't sell well, so who's "we" exactly?
Re: EA Sports College Football 25's Level of Detail Only Possible Through the 'Power of AI', Says EA
@nomither6 but their jobs were affected. Most banks I visit have very few employees working (usually one is supposed to help all customers, because almost everything is done online.
Re: Sony to Establish Brand New PS Studios Team for PS5 Sci-Fi Action Game
@EfYI no it was not. And the last expansion proved otherwise.
They didn't acquire them just for Destiny 2. That's why the paid them so much. To make sure they don't quit after the acquisition.
Re: PS Plus Essential Games for August 2024 Announced
@FEWGEE1 plenty of older people love Lego games and they've offered hundreds if not thousands of games over the years. So that's an exaggeration if I ever saw one. They probably gave away just as many Assassin's Creed games through plus.
Re: Bungie to Lay Off 220 Workers, Will Be Further Integrated into Sony
@GymratAmarillo silver lining, I guess!
Re: PS Plus Essential Games for August 2024 Announced
Ender Lillies looks interesting. I like Lego games, but Star Wars doesn't do it for me.
Re: Sony to Establish Brand New PS Studios Team for PS5 Sci-Fi Action Game
@thefourfoldroot1 true, though hindsight is 20/20. Had Bungie performed better, it'd be considered a great acquisition, but alas.
Re: Bungie to Layoff 220 Employees, Will Be Further Integrated into Sony
Yikes. I think those of us who thought the deal was a terrible one are constantly proven right. Wish were were wrong, though.
Re: PSVR2 Sales Explode After Sony's Deep Price Cut, Up More than 2000%
@CieloAzure obviously you don't have to support it, but for anyone who's genuinely interested in it, it has enough games to last for years even if no other game was released from today on. And more keep being announced. So, though Sony first party games are pretty much non existent, it's well supported by third parties.
Re: Astro Bot PS5 Controller Announced, Pre-Orders Start 9th August
My favourite one so far.
Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Adds Outrageous Animalities, Massive Story Campaign, and Much More
@Tecinthebrain that's exactly how I feel about it. Really like the show back in the day and now I just separate the art from the artist and I still greatly enjoy it. If they could add both of them, it'd be a huge win for them.
Re: Deals: Sony Goes for the Jugular with Humongous PS5, PSVR2 Discounts in USA
@jrt87 actually it's literally impossible to talk about the majority. We have no evidence to make such a claim, either that most haven't tried it and that's the reason they don't see value in it or that most have and simply didn't like it.
I can only speak for myself. I really enjoyed some PSVR1 games, but hated setting it up every time. Playing PSVR games became a chore. The experience on PSVR2 has been vastly different. I almost play every day and love it. Had I not tried PSVR2, I'd probably think it's similar to the previous model and never bother to get it. But that's just me.
Re: Deals: Sony Goes for the Jugular with Humongous PS5, PSVR2 Discounts in USA
@LifeGirl you're missing the point people are raising. Obviously some have tried it and didn't like it for whatever reason. That goes without saying. Just like there isn't a single game ever released that every person on the planet has tried and liked/loved.
The point many are raising is that VR offers a unique experience that any kind of description pales in comparison to the product offered. There isn't something similar that one can compare it to to give others an idea of what it feels like. That's why some have suggested booths where one would get to try a game and see for oneself. They may like it, they may not, but at least they'll have first hand experience. As opposed to something like Stellar Blade or Mario Wonder whose appeal is obvious to someone interested in that kind of a game.
Re: Deals: Sony Goes for the Jugular with Humongous PS5, PSVR2 Discounts in USA
@B_Lindz I don't think Nintendo is an indication of anything. I mean, they don't offer price cuts for their games even when stop selling (e.g. Kid Icarus). It's a different strategy. Similar logic applies to their consoles. Even when they're struggling to sell, they're always sold with at least some profit in mind, as opposed to Sony and MS that are/were more willing to take a hit to reach more households.
Also, there is a reason ps2 and ps3 sale exploded after they got a price cut. It's not just games that sell a console, but also price and perceived value. That xbox boss was right when he said that the race to 10m consoles sold is the most important one. Whoever gets there first and with as wide lead from the second as possible, wins the console race, because most people tend to buy whatever is considered most popular.
Re: Astro Bot Continues Its Quest for PS5 Game of the Year with Sublime Gameplay Demo
@Nyne11Tyme Well said. I'm buying it day 1 to send Sony a message. I was playing Concrete Genie today for the first time and felt guilty for not supporting it when I had the chance to and getting it for free (though plus) instead.
Let's all embrace this game and make it a success!
Re: Astro Bot Continues Its Quest for PS5 Game of the Year with Sublime Gameplay Demo
@Max_the_German ah, yes. The existence of a gay person being a liberal political statement.