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@JokerBoy322 nope. That would be Nintendo or Apple. Just read the comments here, just like everywhere else. It's 99% negative.

@MikeOrator not even close.

@MikeOrator Ι think the issue is that the game is locked at 30fps. A remaster could drastically change the way it feels to play it. For some people, 30fps makes a game "unplayable".

@Bez87 even if it is a trend, we can just ignore them if we don't feel like playing a slightly (in most cases) improved version of a game we've already played.

@get2sammyb don't they auto-pop in most cases? That's what happened to me, if memory serves.

@Carnage it's always nice to see the voice of reason in a see of emotional responses. We've seen time and time again that great games fail. That never stops people from posting "make a good game and people will buy it" whenever a game sells well. Same with the opposite.

@Lavishturtle yes, how dare they speak their mind. The deserve the ultimate punishment, unlike all the other developers who never use Twitter to speak their mind.

@Uromastryx haha, I can imagine!

@Batesy125s yup. That's why I think it should be neither a pro nor a con.

"Trophies don't transfer". This is also a pro for some people.

@chucksneed you do that.

Way too expensive. I love Power Rangers as much as the next guy, but it'll have to wait.

@kyleforrester87 yup. And even if some of them were great at what they did, it must be quite difficult to land a job after of the biggest bombs in the industry. So, if they can afford it, they totally should take a break and come back when the situation improves.

Sad for the developers. Some of the comments here don't surprise me. Certain people completely lack empathy.

@chucksneed then make a service yourself and don't charge for it. So simple /s

@Elodin did competition from Nintendo in Japan bring prices down? Even after sales of ps5 consoles took a massive hit, Sony didn't change their mind about lowering the increased price of Ps5 in Japan. Competition doesn't work the way a lot people think.

@NEStalgia I fully understand what you mean. But it still doesn't matter, imho. At the end of the day Sony first and foremost wants their games to make a profit. And that's exactly what this game managed to do. So, it was somewhat of a failure as a live service game, but overall a huge success.

@Alps_Stranger yes, because they've been doing so well in Japan where they raised the price of the ps5. If only they had some competition.

I have a UK and it's completely gone for me (using ios, if that makes a difference).

@NEStalgia yes, ideally a company may want their game to sell 100m copies. But that doesn't happen, now does it? The fact that Helldivers sold so much makes it a huge success no matter how you cut it.

Had it not been a multiplayer game, it wouldn't have sold as much as it did, hence why it outperformed every single first party game ever released.

@rusty82 same here.

I almost never preorder games, but for some reason, I preordered this one! Looking forward to giving it a try

@LifeGirl it was most certainly successful. The initial sales alone made it a huge a success.

Ι don't blame them. Killzone games didn't sell particularly well, despite being well made.

@AhmadSumadi yup. Same with politics and pretty much everything else.

@Bigmanfan I'd argue they're good for indie developers who struggle financially and may run out of funds before the game is complete. Other than that, I wish all companies would use their funds for new games, not to block other games from experiencing a third party game.

@Overmind Yeah, I thought so. I just wanted to take my sweet time with it, never look up anything and be surprised every time I got something right by accident.

@Fishnpeas Indeed, nothing says "I'm a grown up" than an ad hominem. Thanks for the laugh.

@buggysdad hm... Wouldn't that be the case for other games, tough? Like BG3, for example?

@Overmind dear God. That's what I call dedication! I've been playing it ever since it came out and I'm nowhere near close to getting everything, though I've been busy so according to the ps app, I've played for about 60hrs so far.

@KingPev yup, fair enough.

@buggysdad so we agree. When people actually played it, didn't feel this way.

@KingPev when it's a bunch of people, it's opinions. This goes beyond that and it's a consensus. But, yes it goes without saying that everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Even if that opinion has been influenced by others without realizing it.

@Fishnpeas absolutely. Every single review is just an advertisement. Seems like Sony paid more for Astrobot than anything else. They must have had a lot of faith in it.

If only companies would advertise more and get great scores for their games, too. They simply haven't cracked the code, it seems.

And let's not forget the userscores on metacritic and pushsquare users voting for it. Just imagine how many accounts Sony had to create to make it happen.

@KingPev then how did a "bland and dull with lame characters" game get a 90 on metacritic (an 88 userscore) and was voted by most pushsquare users Game of the year?

@LifeGirl sure, buddy.

@UltimateOtaku91 exactly! I just think that, in addition to some haters, most people don't hate it, but there more they read that it's a mediocre/terrible game, the more they start to believe it and they recall everything they didn't like about it as opposed to the entire (very positive) experience they had playing it. Now, obviously they either don't realize it or don't want to admit it, but there are entire studies in psychology on it.

Reading most of the comments here is pure entertainment. So, the game that was up for several game of the year awards, was voted best of the year by this very community, has a freaking 90 on metacritic is supposed to be mediocre? Sure, sure.

I firmly believe that people are influenced by others more than they realize or care to admit. The complaints arose when people realized that Peter Parker would be replaced by Miles Morales. Just like they hate when a white character in a tv series/movie is replaced by a black actor ("we will not be replaced" and all that jazz) .

@AverageGamer good point. It's a handheld game at heart.

@Caveman49 that's the spirit! I feel the same way about fps, sports games, etc.

@AverageGamer didn't they have Pokemon when they released WiiU?

@Major_Player are you conveniently forgetting a little thing called The Last of Us on HBO?

@Steel76 the "boring drama" has performed much better than the old games, so don't hold your breath.

@riceNpea replace data miners with they (subjective case) or them (objective case).

it took less than 48 hours for them to rip near-complete
it took less than 48 hours for they to rip near-complete

it took them less than 48 hours to rip near-complete
it took they less than 48 hours for them to rip near-complete

... I think.

@Khayl I think "whom" was correct, since it's the object, not the subject of the clause.

@LowDefAl just looked it up. Apparently it was 10 years ago:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/691087-playstation-4/69579601 (and it was 4/10, not 6/10 that were making a profit)

(this was the link, but it doesn't work: http://www.dualshockers.com/2014/07/04/shuhei-yoshida-only-four-out-of-ten-playstation-games-make-money-but-sony-will-always-support-talent/)

@LowDefAl I've thought about that and I realize that you may be right, but it seems to me that they've changed strategy altogether.

For example, in the past they said that only 6 out of 10 games they release make a profit, but they're ok with that because some are very successful and can fund the less successful ones. They no longer do that. Every game needs to be (or have the potential to be) a big hit or they won't bother making it.

@LowDefAl Sony could have chosen to lose some money on each unit sold and make it up through software sales. It's what they used to do generation after generation worldwide. They were able to see the bigger picture. Now they're so focused on increasing profits that they're stuck with a terrible image in Japan and as a result have almost completely lost the market to Nintendo.

Hardware sales are what Sony deserves for raising the price this many years in. Glad some games are selling relatively well, though I do miss the days when successful games like FF (13?) would sell 1m+ copies first week.

20 comments, eh? It'd be a shame if someone commented again...

(still can't understand how games like this -which seems brilliant, but isn't high profile- can sell 20m copies, whereas games that get far more attention don't sell anywhere near as much)