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@Deityjester sure, that's the reason it's performing so much better than all the other streaming platforms.

@WhiteRabbit that's the thing, though. Researching may provide results they don't like.

@SuperSilverback and they succeeded so easily because people will simply believe anything as long at it confirms their bias

If Sony wants to give it a fighting chance, they should add some popular characters from their franchises and promote it better. The negative reaction is too strong for it to establish a core audience for the game to eventually become a success. It doesn't matter how good it may turn out to be. Its initial reception will make or break it.

@LastSaneManOnEarth "on average" is they key word here. Some gamers spend far more than that. Many of those gamers would have purchased several games had they not been available at no additional cost on GP.

@PsBoxSwitchOwner you mean like the smash hit Hi-Fi Rush?

@Frmknst for one thing because you can get top up cards online for far less than that. E.g. cdkeys/ shopto.

@trev666 focus on games like Astrobot, perhaps? Or the hundreds of the third party games that are coming to ps5? Just a thought.

@RoomWithaMoose I'd say it is a bigger waste (the latter at least gets to figure out if a game is worth their time), but I get that not everyone feels that way. For one thing, most people think there's nothing wrong with them. So they simply justify their behaviour.

@trev666 like they gave Spiderman 2?

@ShonenJump121 didn't Destruction Allstars bomb despite being published by Sony?

@Ralizah I mean, polls tend to have several options like
Are you buying it?
1. Already pre-ordered
2. Yes, but not at launch
3. Yes, but I'll wait for a price cut
4. Not sure. Need to see more gameplay.
5. Maybe. I'll wait for the reviews before deciding.

They sound pretty varied/interesting to me.

@Tecinthebrain yes, out of all the things I can do with my time, reading articles about things that don't interest me or I hate is at the bottom of my list. Same with following celebrities or politicians I don't like and leaving a comment under their post.

80% of the people who voted clicked on an article about a game they're not interested in. Fascinating.

@ATaco that's wonderful to hear. The best way to send a message is when you don't feel like they're sending a message.

I may give it a try on the ps portal.

@ATaco typical strawman. Never said that games that don't send a message sell badly. Only that several games with a message also sell well.

@riceNpea I know the sequel has been decisive (sorry to hear it broke your heart ), but still got a ton of game of the year awards and sold really well, so definitely a success for Sony.

@ATaco you're absolutely right. China has a long tradition of very successful and critically acclaimed games, like... Can't think of one off the top of my head, but thank God they didn't try to send a message. We all know how badly that turned out for games like The Last of Us and God of War.

Very happy for the the developers of this game, as it looks amazing to me.

@Ainu20 just when you think we're progressing, it's like nooope!

@MrMagic yes, because all the games that don't care for the virtue signaling have done exceptionally. And all the ones that do have failed.

@AdamNovice nope. Let people have this. They clearly need it.

2/10. Fantastic! Just when you think it can't get worse

Alright, so maybe in a few years.

@SmileMan64 No worries. I think that would have been ideal, but can you see any of their old IPs becoming evergreen? I can't think of one that could sell like Pokemon or Mario.

When it's fixed, I'll get it. It looks fantastic. No need to get it at launch.

@DualWielding or we didn't get the chance to play/finish them the first time around.

Sad to see the state of Push Square. It's still my favourite gaming site, but all this negativity is getting tiresome. There are many games I don't like and I simply ignore them. Apparently, that's too hard for some people. But I get it. Bashing a game means you can take out your frustration over real issues you can't do anything about.

Bought mine a few days ago, but it hasn't arrived yet. Fingers crossed my internet can handle it till fiber arrives.

@Godot25 but again, we don't know how well the expansion did, even if the previous ones kept selling worse and worse. So, Bungie could very well have made money and to say that it hasn't is simply a guess.

@Godot25 pretty sure that was before the release of the latest expansion. So we don't know if they're currently making money. The layoffs were decided before the release of the expansion.

@__jamiie "Zenimax makes Microsoft a lot of money. Bungie (so far) hasn't done so for Sony"

Has Sony or Bungie confirmed that or are you surmising based on the recent layoffs?

@CrashBandicoat any peer review paper that suggests that the number is indeed small or is that just your opinion?

@LowDefAl I see. Thanks. The one I recall must have been about a specific game.

@dskatter I love this!

-If only there was a physical copy, I would have totally bought it!
-Good news, there is.
-Well, I don't want it anymore.

@Malaise yeah, that makes sense. Thanks.

@Ogbert brilliantly said.

@Malaise but don't you think that through our interactions with other people or other things, we tend to normalize things? My dad told me that when he was young, he and his brothers would torture animals (declaw cats, set some on fire, etc). All the boys were doing it and none of them thought it was that bad. They thought it was naughty (like drinking alcohol), but still not get you into serious trouble bad. When he grew up, he realized how wrong it was and told us all about it. Needless to say, we understood that it was wrong and never hurt an animal like that.

As for the game, I think it's important to keep in mind that people who want to take such pictures, can still do so; the game will simply not reward them for it. As such, how different is the experience, really?

So, my question is this. If an old game had sections were you got rewards for declawing cats, would you be ok with having the rewards for doing it removed? Or would you rather they kept the rewards? I'm just curious.

@Malaise I don't think it's that simple. "Just a joke"/ "just a game", etc. We all know murder is wrong. Not only wrong for the victim, but also for their family (if they have one). When someone dies, it tends to be a big deal. Entire movements can start after the murder/killing of a human being (George Floyd, Stonewall, etc).

The same cannot be said about other things, like upskirting. Sure, both are illegal, but so is pirating movies or opening an envelop addressed to someone else (in some/most countries), but people will openly admit they downloaded a game or a movie/ that they read someone's mail, as opposed to killing someone.

I vividly remember a friend of mine (who is currently a judge) telling me a trick on how to grope women in public and get away with it. He said he did it all the time and had faced no consequences because if you're in a big crowd (e.g. on a bus), you can easily act like it was accidental. I very much doubt he'd be bragging about all the people he's killing (if he were a murderer). And he mentioned that all his friends did it too. So, it wasn't a big deal in his eyes.

For me, that's the difference. We all know that murder is wrong, but there are illegal things that are not considered a big deal by the average person and such games (where you're rewarded for doing it) only normalize it/ make it seem more acceptable.

No surprise that nuance is lost online again. And the argument is false equivalence.

@Ken_Kaniff well, yes. There's little thing called consent. So quite the difference there.

@Thumper what even?

@Thumper Actually times most certainly have changed. A scene from the first American pie (where the main character struggles while watching a video with terrible quality just to find something to ... entertain himself) shows the vast difference. Back in the day straight male teenagers didn't have many options. So even Lara Croft's pixelated chest was a pretty big deal. Now they can easily access all sorts of material online.

@GeeEssEff Happy for you. It's simply brilliant!

I'm giving Ghost of Tsushima a try. Can't say it's entirely my cup of tea, but I can see it's a well made game. Also, decided to bite the bullet and get a ps portal, though my internet is terrible. Whenever it arrives, I'll find out if I should have opted for a Steam deck instead.

@Darude84 well, if you say so, it must be true.

@Darude84 gotta love ageism. Both Blanchet and Jamie Lee Curtis got an Oscar last year.

@Tecinthebrain washed up actors? Sure, Jan.

I've only played the Telltale Borderlands game and loved it. If it's anything like it, I'm sure I'll enjoy this movie. Most people are just too harsh nowadays.

@RoomWithaMoose hence why I never said that GaaS are wonderful and everyone should make one. But to generalize and say "One day devs will realise that making live service games is a waste of time and money" is simply wrong and games like Helldivers II prove so.