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@SuntannedDuck2 I'm pretty sure blu rays generally last a lot longer than 10 years, to be honest the talk about any disc media dying or rotting away seems very much guesswork, plenty (I dare say even most) discs from even the 90s are still working fine.

@nomither6 playing them online perhaps, but short of getting your entire console bricked, having your account suspended doesn't stop you playing your physical single player games.
Worst case scenario you can just move them to a new account.

@Bamila you may have lost interest in physical, but the fact that you were able to sell them for a decent amount of money suggests lots of people haven't.

I can't see them charging £100. Well I'm sure there'll be deluxe editions etc which I'm sure the big fans will happily buy, but I'd bet the base game will be the standard price. If (and I'm sure it will) it has multiplayer similar to 5, that's where the big money is anyway.

@DaveSimonH yeah the memory card situation was the single biggest problem. Psp had a similar situation, but it had less impact because most people were still using the uhds.
Lack of initial success meant the games cartridges were considered limited collector's items pretty much straight away, which made vita feel too premium for most people I think.

@TerranIV I probably would've got one if it had been backwards compatible, despite already owning a quest. There's a ton of psvr1 games that I enjoy. Admittedly there's a few you can get an update for (for a price.. 😕) but not enough.

I think when I was younger I would've loved game pass, I probably would've seen it as great value if it had been a thing in the ps1 or Dreamcast days. I used to enjoy trying as many different games as I could get my hands on back then.
But now I just tend to find one game, usually my favourite, a lengthy turn based game and play that for months. Maybe occasionally trying out a few on sale indie games.
I bought ps+ premium for a year, and despite the seeming value, I barely touched the vast array of games on it so I went back to essential.
The essential free games at least hang around 'forever' on your account so even if you end up not playing them, you feel like you are getting something, rather than the time limits of game pass and premium.
I think kids of today seem to be a different too, finding one game like Fortnite or whatever and just sticking with that indefinitely, rather than trying everything like we used to.

@neillaw Yes it's unfortunate. I've had a love/hate relationship with final fantasy for years too, though I have given all but the most recent one a chance for all my complaining. They usually even win me over in the end.
Having a moan on the internet about the direction your favourite franchise is taking is in no way comparable to the stuff listed in the article though, kind of irks me that I risk people thinking I do stuff like that just for complaining sometimes.

I leave it on, but not really sure why. I just clear all the videos out now and again. The only time I did anything with one was getting the slay the spire platinum which I proudly shared. It got a whopping 8 views.

I'm standing my ground personally. If a game costs over £20 or so then it's got to be physical as far as I'm concerned. If it does disappear then I guess I won't be spending so much on gaming any more.
Though, as others have mentioned, if the digital revenue includes subscriptions and micro transactions then the numbers aren't really a fair impression on the base game revenue.

@MrMagic it works both ways I think. From my (admittedly very uneducated) view, it seems Chinese companies get a lot more freedom to operate in the West than Western companies get in China. Everyone's protecting their own interests.

@belmont Well not pointless, you have more consumer rights with the physical version. The game isn't locked to one account for a start.

At my subscription limit personally. Something has to go if I get a new one. Sega do make a lot of RPGs though, so maybe they'd get a chance of being in the group if it was good enough.

It's crazy that Fortnite is still a powerhouse. The kids who originally played it are becoming adults now. I'm not sure if they are still playing it or it's attracting the next generation too.

It's my favourite of all the elder scrolls. But I do worry that the inevitable 'quality of life' improvements of a remake might sour my memories of it. I'll keep an eye on it if it is real though.

I've mentioned this before I think, but there are actual poker games that only have a 12 rating. It makes it even stranger that balatro got an 18.

@Dampsponge that's true, dedicated disc players have likely been niche for a while. Most households have likely been using games consoles for it for some time.

@ChimpMasta lol what odd advice. Sell them asap? You act like they are all going to explode one day. Even if physical did disappear, the old copies will still be fine.

Edit : as for degredation, my ps1 cd discs are still fine to this day. So blu rays, they are probably going to outlive me.

@Flaming_Kaiser ps1 was revolutionary at the time. I remember being awe struck, accustomed to megadrive/Amiga graphics and seeing what seemed like arcade perfect games running at home. Though I'm still not sure how I thought resident evil looked like real life lol.
I think the last time I was truly amazed by gaming was my first few goes at vr. Console generations just seem to add subtler improvements rather than mind blowing experiences nowadays. Though you can't really blame them, it's getting harder to offer such huge jumps.

@Flaming_Kaiser that's true. People can make predictions about the future of consoles, streaming etc all they want but it's all irrelevant if no attention grabbing games are being made.
Though I admit it's getting harder to impress us, increases in FPS and resolution (for those who can afford the TVs) aren't really the same as yesteryears jumps between consoles.

Many households have multiple switches, I got one friend who's got like 5 or 6 floating around, and he's not even a collector, just got one for each family member for some reason.

@Friendly if it runs ps5 games straight from the library, it won't need as much support as a system with completely different games I suppose.

@Deljo I played ridge racer so much. Seems crazy in hindsight, so little content compared to modern racers yet it's prob my most played racing game.

It let me extend last year, though I did upgrade from extra to premium I think if I remember right. If current premium members get no discount option at all, that would be pretty lame to be honest.

Another homm3 type game came out on playstation a couple days ago, confusingly also having songs in the title. 'songs of conquest'. It's pretty good, has gained a following on pc.

@Medic_alert what is wrong with providing for a minority, their money is as good as anybody else's.
And physical is very much my personal reason for not moving to pc. Unless I am a very special human being, I doubt that I am alone.

@Medic_alert I honestly believe that the physical option is still a huge benefit to console makers. It's the reason many people stick with consoles instead of moving to pc.
Also a drive allows you to watch blu rays and dvds. Something many people still do, even if they have a streaming service as well.
Though I believe that Sony probably realise this, it's more likely underestimating rather than some sneaky push for digital. Also we don't know how many drives scalpers out there are sitting on. They are obviously a lot easier to stockpile than a console because of their price and size.

I would be tempted, but most my big games are still physical though, so it's not even an option until the stock issues with the drive are sorted out.

I'm definitely down for a new sci-fi space series. I still miss the glorious 90s when there were seemingly hundreds of them.

@BlaizeV I can't remember if the PS3 collection even got a digital release, I can't seem to find any info on it, I'm not even sure if it's currently there to be delisted. I guess the only way to check for sure is through a PS3, mines not at hand at the moment though unfortunately.
I do know the disc version is still (currently at least) fairly cheap to get hold of.

It's probably more Sony underestimating how many people still want one rather than a forced attempt. There are many companies keen to see and accelerate the demise of physical, but Sony and Nintendo are two that seem happy to keep providing while the demand is there. Indeed, Nintendo could even be seen as actively defending physical.
It happens a lot with physical games too. Big releases completely unavailable physically in the first couple weeks because retailers massively underestimate the demand that still exists.

Seems odd all these companies demanding return to the office. You'd assume game development is perfectly suited for remote working. I hope the people demanding it have stronger reasons other than a nostalgic desire for the good old days.

"watch this!" Blasts self into water with bazooka

@SheerDisappointment they seem to have given up on Minecraft vr unfortunately. Even announced that they are removing the pc vr.

Double dragon and kunio-kun bundle for £6.99 looks pretty good for retro gamers.

@Futureshark judging by the last paragraph, it seems they are hiring people who live extremely far away from work and will have to commute, I assume at great expense and time.

I personally don't mind the concept of the drive as an add on, it's better than not existing at all, which would pretty much kill my interest in consoles.
I'm betting the sorts of games I enjoy, single player RPGs, single player adventures, are probably doing a lot better on the physical side. I can see why stuff like GTA online, call of duty, FIFA etc, dominates digitally, service games.

I'm really enjoying it. The characters are likeable and the story is wonderfully crazy.
The combat seems to be a bit tougher than persona so far, about 20 hours in. Monsters are already appearing that are immune to everything my party's got equipped. I guess that's why the class system is so easily customisable. I've even died to random monsters sometimes, usually when they get the ambush advantage, you really want to avoid that.
9/10 so far.

I agree, god of war is all about big set pieces. While that makes it sound like the ideal TV show/movie, it'll surely be an expensive one.

@Dadou Sony have made all of their retro games available to purchase (I think), so I'd assume it's Capcom's decision.
Though I've no idea of why, literally none.

Scalpers do annoy me, but the companies selling stuff in limited numbers know full well what they are doing. Giving items resale potential can turn anything, even overpriced tat into something that everybody wants all of a sudden.
Limited run (generally) do give a time window, not a number limit, so they don't tend to sell out at least, as long as you keep track of their releases. It's just a shame I live in the UK, I'd probably buy a lot more from them if it wasn't for the postage fees.

Me and my brother used to play this loads. Though yeah I do remember it being very challenging I don't think we even got close to the end.

@Medic_alert a license key that you can resell, lend to friends and won't lose access to if your PSN account runs into trouble.
If you look really far into the future when the digital downloads might no longer be available, then at least an old version of the game might be better than no version.
I've still got my ps1 and Dreamcast discs available to play upstairs, if they had been digital only they'd likely have been lost years ago.
Though yes I appreciate that not everyone cares about such things.

@somnambulance I am still fairly positive of ubisoft too. They have put out many games that I've enjoyed over the years. Even that star wars game, I've watched a couple reviews it looks pretty decent, I've only held off because I've never been that into star wars.
They did go a bit dlc crazy in the PS4 era, pushing it on the title screens, but they seem to have toned that down severely. I'm not sure if they deserve as much online hate as they get nowadays.

@NEStalgia yeah the difficulty settings aren't a guarantee. Camilla songs in particular, expert is definitely harder than other expert+ songs.
Paid dlc songs are usually easier than the base game ones, I got good at expert + finding easier ones and practicing them first.
It's hard to explain, but you really do just get the movements ingrained if you keep playing, you reach the point where you can get through a new expert+ song first try once you've learnt what to expect.

Edit : I think the Camilla songs are supposed to be beat saber's 'hard' mode. They seem to make a point of being a lot harder than the others.

@MathiasBS are you allowed to say what game it was?
Consoles opening the gates to indie games has generally been good I think, but so many of them, and so little quality control nowadays.

@NEStalgia beat saber is a case of the more you play the better you'll get. I know that's true of anything but in beat saber's case it's very surprising how quickly you can ramp up from not even understanding how people manage expert+, to doing themself with relative ease.
Well except Camilla ones. And sandstorm. I haven't got the faintest idea how anyone does them on expert+.

I usually rage at scalpers too, but in this case, Sony has clearly encouraged them, with such a limited amount. I guess they think these situations makes the brand look more premium or something.

@Xenofastiq you have more rights with a physical copy. The right to resell it for a start. Also it can't be taken away from you. Yes you don't 'own' the game, but you certainly own the physical item.

Digital gaming hasn't seen a case of a company removing players libraries yet (either by closing down or just a business choice.) even the earliest digital libraries, PS3, Wii, psp they still let you download stuff you already bought.
It'll happen sooner or later though.