Surely producing and transporting empty boxes around doesn't cost much (any?) more than transporting a box with a disc in it? But I'm no economist I guess.
Does seem a bit odd that they aren't remaking 1. I could understand 2 and 3 first, as they had the most outdated graphics. But 4 and now these two before a 1 remake that reason has gone.
@FEWGEE1 it's strange, you'd think the selected games would be there for less points than the vouchers. But no, the vouchers are usually the same or sometimes even better value than them. I've never seen a reason to go for one of the games instead.
@__jamiie their responses to direct questions about these franchises has been very evasive. They talk about established audiences but wouldn't commit to any particular franchise being guaranteed to stay multiplat. It's pretty safe to assume they are making sure their options are open.
@MrMagic Mad Max has always had plenty of people who thought it was great, myself included. Most of it's detractors seem to be people from the 'i hate open world games now' bandwagon.
Yeah if this article isn't click bait then I'm not sure what the purpose is. Seems the writer of it enjoyed the game a lot more than many of the actual reviewers. If there was a bit more focus on why it's not on playstation (though we all know that anyway) maybe it'd have a purpose, but it just reads like a glowing review of the game.
@Icey664 last of us is holding it's physical resale value too, which is very unusual for a big title single player playstation game. And definitely unusual for a title that drew so much (public) negativity when it first came out.
@rjejr I think early access originally came from steam. Programmers (primarily indie) would put their games out unfinished, so they could raise funds to support finishing it. Which is fair enough as long as everyone knows what they are getting into. Microsoft early access is just them having their cake and eating it. Claiming day one gamepass, then putting it up for sale on day 'minus 7' or whatever.
@Secryt every time somebody brings up game pass price here, there's always someone claiming they are getting it for free or heavily discounted. It really is a mystery how much revenue it is generating. One that Microsoft seem unwilling to clear up.
@MrBook yes CoDs an odd one. Apparently the biggest game out there yet I know noone who plays it. It's not even (afaik) big with children like say Roblox or fortnite.
@ATaco someone who has only watched this show probably won't be too bothered, TV audiences are fairly used to surprise deaths nowadays.
The emotional response of the story could only have happened in video game culture I think.
I really enjoyed it. If you are a marvel fan, I'd strongly suggest at least giving it a try even if it doesn't look like something you'd like on the surface.
It's crazy to wonder how far ai will go. If it reaches the point where someone can type 'make me a football game with x parameters' and the ai just churns one out, then is anyone even going to want to pay for it?
I think the problem is the rotating nature of them. With ps+ basic, at least you get some feeling of ownership because they stay in your library indefinitely after you've claimed them. Even my old PS3 games that I claimed 10 years ago are still accessable.
The new model, you don't even know if the game is going to around long enough to even finish it. You feel like you are playing on some hidden time limit, which I don't think most people like.
Playstation has a history of being a bit barren in the first half of it's consoles life, then tons of great games in the second, but yeah it has seemed even slower than usual lately.
@tomic20 I think it's something that needs to be there right at the start to avoid things like this. Sure they may have had reasons for delaying it, but it's not something you can insert after everyone's bought it already.
@rjejr dreams isn't monetizesd it's just people making stuff for fun/display talent as far as I know. No idea how Fortnite/Minecraft works. The basic idea is fine I think, an engine for aspiring programmers/creators to make some money and learn to program. But seems from my limited understanding of Roblox, claims of those people being taken advantage is muddying the concept somewhat.
TVs appear to the recurring theme here and other frame rate debates, I personally am not that bothered, I appreciate a console has only so much power, something's got to go sometimes if you are making a game that is more ambitious in other areas, graphics, ai etc. That said, Im using a fairly old TV that wasn't even that expensive in the first place.
@Melee_Ace it's definitely not the difficulty as far as ESO is concerned. If anything I think it may be too easy, although that seems to be a very hot topic among the ESO fanbase judging by forums. They seem to like it that way, apparently the dungeons are where the challenge is.
Coincidentally I tried it again last week, saw a tempting sale price. My level 50 character from the launch days was still there, but I had no idea what was going on, so I've started a new one. Feeling a little underwhelmed so far to be honest, maybe it's best not to go back sometimes.
@NEStalgia the cartoons and merchandise of Nintendo weren't really a thing in the UK back then. Before the snes and megadrive, home computers like the spectrum, c64, Amiga were the UK gamers preferred gaming machines, thanks mostly to their affordability. Nes, Atari etc were around but they didn't have the same user base as America apparently had.
I mean, if you are looking at the whole history of video games, Lara croft possibly deserves it just for how huge she was in the 90s. There's an argument that she led the jump to mainstream. Agent 47 though, uhh...
I'm just confused it was possible in the first place, I assumed streaming devices were incapable of running anything natively. It's got enough memory to install stuff?
What are fans expectations? I was just expecting a better graphic version of the original, but considering all the trouble this game seems to be having, I assume the developers vision is far grander.
@Octane yeah the draw distance in Minecraft isn't that far actually. Well the landscape goes on for ages but the details vanish from not too far a distance. Even say being able to see your stuff fully from the top of a mountain would be a big improvement, at least for me.
I thought both games were great back then. I liked their breezier atmosphere than most of the RPGs at the time. The grinding doesn't bother me as much as it seems to reviewers, but the 3dish graphics do take a bit of getting used to when trying to explore. I'd still recommend any jrpg fans to try them though, cool stories, likeable characters.
@SgtTruth resident evil 7's exclusivity ran out years ago, yet capcom never bothered to move the vr to pc. Honestly it suggests they'd have never made it vr at all if Sony hadn't funded it. I personally think that's an example of exclusivity being a force for good, a product being made that very likely never would have otherwise.
Also this game is quite unique in that playing the first is probably considered a requirement by most people. People who haven't played the first prob won't even be tempted to buy it even 'to add to the pile' yet.
I don't know about Japan, but I do know that games disappearing suddenly in the second week can often be down to physical availability issues. It might just be that there weren't any copies to buy.
@skaarj217 yeah the ps1 original via ps+ premium. This is the remastered version. Not that I'd imagine a huge difference between them. Grandia 2 is new to PS4/5 though.
@DaniPooo they are talking about a physical version of the pixel remaster collection I think. The one run was so limited that it sold out in seconds. Copies rarely even appear on eBay, suggesting that the number printed was ridiculously low.
@Flaming_Kaiser don't even get me started on ff pixel remaster. I swear square must've only made like 100 copies for PS4. I know it's hard to judge how many games are going to sell and sometimes under estimate, but the demand is/was clearly there in that case.
I bought the original dlc, prob not bothering with this though, not planning on playing again anytime soon. Extra songs are quite cool when you are playing though. You can go to the settings and change the battle music to random, so you don't get the same song every single time. There seems to be a bug (?) where selecting random takes the actual original music out of the mix altogether though.
@Czar_Khastik yeah switch was limited run only. I doubt it'll get another physical. It'll very likely hold its value if you get one though. Assuming you don't mind waiting a year for it to turn up 🙄
@RudeAnimat0r I've read the original was about 30 hours, but it got a very mixed reception at the time. maybe the remake alters it a lot though who knows.
Persona 3 seems to be out of stock, in all the town stores at least. I suspect it would be higher if it was more available.
Edit : oh these are digital sales? I can't explain that then. Except RPG fans are possibly more inclined to buy physical than other genres.
@ATaco did you play the original? I never did but reviews of the (PS2) final chapter seems to be pretty negative from what I've seen. Complaints that it's just a dungeon crawl, and a really hard one at that.
@kedireturns yeah the phrase 'console exclusive', ignoring pc releases has been around for a while now. It's understandably a bit confusing so usually when you use it you'll get at least one response disagreeing, pointing out it's on pc too.
It probably wasn't that difficult to get, Xbox doesn't seem to have a huge jrpg fanbase. They've been trying to change that lately, but they still seem to be at the point where they need to offer a sweet game pass deal to get the devs to even bother putting them out on Xbox.
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Re: Black Myth: Wukong's Physical Editions Won't Have Actual Discs at Launch, Just Digital Codes
Surely producing and transporting empty boxes around doesn't cost much (any?) more than transporting a box with a disc in it?
But I'm no economist I guess.
Re: Capcom Making Resident Evil 0, Code Veronica Remakes Next, Reports Say
@jmac1686 I remember playing 0 on GameCube, and being so impressed by the moving train graphics I sat there and watched it for like half an hour lol.
Edit : I was far more easily impressed back then. I thought Code Veronica's opening movie was the coolest thing I'd ever seen.
Re: Capcom Making Resident Evil 0, Code Veronica Remakes Next, Reports Say
Does seem a bit odd that they aren't remaking 1. I could understand 2 and 3 first, as they had the most outdated graphics. But 4 and now these two before a 1 remake that reason has gone.
Re: PS5's Sublime Stellar Blade Can Now Be Yours with PS Stars Points
@FEWGEE1 it's strange, you'd think the selected games would be there for less points than the vouchers. But no, the vouchers are usually the same or sometimes even better value than them. I've never seen a reason to go for one of the games instead.
Re: Rumour: New DOOM Game Reveal at Xbox Showcase, Coming to PS5
@__jamiie their responses to direct questions about these franchises has been very evasive. They talk about established audiences but wouldn't commit to any particular franchise being guaranteed to stay multiplat. It's pretty safe to assume they are making sure their options are open.
Re: Rumour: New DOOM Game Reveal at Xbox Showcase, Coming to PS5
Well I'll give Microsoft some credit for a change, Doom is so rooted in gamer culture I'm glad it's staying multiplat.
Re: Hideo Kojima Is Mad Max Director George Miller's First Choice for a Video Game Adaption
@MrMagic Mad Max has always had plenty of people who thought it was great, myself included.
Most of it's detractors seem to be people from the 'i hate open world games now' bandwagon.
Re: Soapbox: Once a PS4 Console Exclusive, PS5 Players Are Missing a Visual Stunner in Hellblade 2
Yeah if this article isn't click bait then I'm not sure what the purpose is. Seems the writer of it enjoyed the game a lot more than many of the actual reviewers.
If there was a bit more focus on why it's not on playstation (though we all know that anyway) maybe it'd have a purpose, but it just reads like a glowing review of the game.
Re: Over 2,000 Big PS5, PS4 Games Going Cheap in New PS Store Sale
@Icey664 last of us is holding it's physical resale value too, which is very unusual for a big title single player playstation game. And definitely unusual for a title that drew so much (public) negativity when it first came out.
Re: Microsoft Commits to Next Call of Duty Game on Xbox Game Pass, New Report Says
@rjejr I think early access originally came from steam. Programmers (primarily indie) would put their games out unfinished, so they could raise funds to support finishing it. Which is fair enough as long as everyone knows what they are getting into.
Microsoft early access is just them having their cake and eating it. Claiming day one gamepass, then putting it up for sale on day 'minus 7' or whatever.
Re: Microsoft Commits to Next Call of Duty Game on Xbox Game Pass, New Report Says
@rjejr yes 'early access' is near guaranteed.
Re: Microsoft Commits to Next Call of Duty Game on Xbox Game Pass, New Report Says
@Secryt every time somebody brings up game pass price here, there's always someone claiming they are getting it for free or heavily discounted. It really is a mystery how much revenue it is generating. One that Microsoft seem unwilling to clear up.
Re: Microsoft Commits to Next Call of Duty Game on Xbox Game Pass, New Report Says
@MrBook yes CoDs an odd one. Apparently the biggest game out there yet I know noone who plays it. It's not even (afaik) big with children like say Roblox or fortnite.
Re: Here's Your First Official Look at HBO's The Last of Us Season 2
@ATaco someone who has only watched this show probably won't be too bothered, TV audiences are fairly used to surprise deaths nowadays.
The emotional response of the story could only have happened in video game culture I think.
Re: Strategy Legend Jake Solomon Explains Where Marvel's Midnight Suns Went Wrong
I really enjoyed it. If you are a marvel fan, I'd strongly suggest at least giving it a try even if it doesn't look like something you'd like on the surface.
Re: Poll: Years Later, How Do You Feel About PlayStation's PC Strategy?
I was worried it would devalue the brand a bit, but I appear to have been proven wrong, so I'm down to don't really care now.
Re: Warner Bros Revenue Plummets as Suicide Squad Falls Completely Short of Hogwarts Legacy
@Haruki_NLI I guess it must have a fanbase, somewhere.
Re: Warner Bros Revenue Plummets as Suicide Squad Falls Completely Short of Hogwarts Legacy
I just want Mad Max 2. I'll even tolerate a few micro transactions if they must.
Re: There's a 'Real Hunger' for AI to Make Game Dev More Efficient, Says EA Boss
It's crazy to wonder how far ai will go. If it reaches the point where someone can type 'make me a football game with x parameters' and the ai just churns one out, then is anyone even going to want to pay for it?
Re: Gaming Subs Like PS Plus, Xbox Game Pass Aren't Growing At All
I think the problem is the rotating nature of them. With ps+ basic, at least you get some feeling of ownership because they stay in your library indefinitely after you've claimed them. Even my old PS3 games that I claimed 10 years ago are still accessable.
The new model, you don't even know if the game is going to around long enough to even finish it. You feel like you are playing on some hidden time limit, which I don't think most people like.
Re: PS5 Fans Mostly Happy with Sony's Third-Party Deals, But PlayStation Studios Need to Step Up
Playstation has a history of being a bit barren in the first half of it's consoles life, then tons of great games in the second, but yeah it has seemed even slower than usual lately.
Re: Helldivers 2 PSN Requirement Backtracked on PC After Brutal Review Bombing Campaign
@tomic20 I think it's something that needs to be there right at the start to avoid things like this. Sure they may have had reasons for delaying it, but it's not something you can insert after everyone's bought it already.
Re: Poll: How Much Do You Care About 60fps on PS5?
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Re: Roblox Boss Insists Payment Model Not Child Labour Exploitation, Says It's a 'Gift'
@rjejr dreams isn't monetizesd it's just people making stuff for fun/display talent as far as I know. No idea how Fortnite/Minecraft works.
The basic idea is fine I think, an engine for aspiring programmers/creators to make some money and learn to program. But seems from my limited understanding of Roblox, claims of those people being taken advantage is muddying the concept somewhat.
Re: Poll: How Much Do You Care About 60fps on PS5?
TVs appear to the recurring theme here and other frame rate debates, I personally am not that bothered, I appreciate a console has only so much power, something's got to go sometimes if you are making a game that is more ambitious in other areas, graphics, ai etc.
That said, Im using a fairly old TV that wasn't even that expensive in the first place.
Re: PS5, PS4 MMO The Elder Scrolls Online Reaches Landmark 10th Anniversary
@Melee_Ace it's definitely not the difficulty as far as ESO is concerned. If anything I think it may be too easy, although that seems to be a very hot topic among the ESO fanbase judging by forums. They seem to like it that way, apparently the dungeons are where the challenge is.
Re: Tekken 8 Boss Says Younger Players Prefer Team-Based Games Because They Can Blame Losses on Others
I agree that 1v1 is added stress, but I think that applies to everyone, not just the younger generation.
Re: PS5, PS4 MMO The Elder Scrolls Online Reaches Landmark 10th Anniversary
Coincidentally I tried it again last week, saw a tempting sale price. My level 50 character from the launch days was still there, but I had no idea what was going on, so I've started a new one. Feeling a little underwhelmed so far to be honest, maybe it's best not to go back sometimes.
Re: Random: Lara Croft Tops Mario as the Most Iconic Video Game Character of All Time, Apparently
@NEStalgia the cartoons and merchandise of Nintendo weren't really a thing in the UK back then. Before the snes and megadrive, home computers like the spectrum, c64, Amiga were the UK gamers preferred gaming machines, thanks mostly to their affordability. Nes, Atari etc were around but they didn't have the same user base as America apparently had.
Re: Random: Lara Croft Tops Mario as the Most Iconic Video Game Character of All Time, Apparently
I mean, if you are looking at the whole history of video games, Lara croft possibly deserves it just for how huge she was in the 90s. There's an argument that she led the jump to mainstream.
Agent 47 though, uhh...
Re: Google Engineers Responsibly Report PS Portal Exploit, Ending Potential PSP Emulation
I'm just confused it was possible in the first place, I assumed streaming devices were incapable of running anything natively. It's got enough memory to install stuff?
Re: KOTOR Remake is 'Alive and Well', Insists Saber Interactive CEO
What are fans expectations? I was just expecting a better graphic version of the original, but considering all the trouble this game seems to be having, I assume the developers vision is far grander.
Re: Looks Like Minecraft Will Get a Native PS5 Version Soon
@Octane yeah the draw distance in Minecraft isn't that far actually. Well the landscape goes on for ages but the details vanish from not too far a distance. Even say being able to see your stuff fully from the top of a mountain would be a big improvement, at least for me.
Re: Grandia HD Collection (PS4) - Barebones Collection Bundles Worthy RPGs
I thought both games were great back then. I liked their breezier atmosphere than most of the RPGs at the time. The grinding doesn't bother me as much as it seems to reviewers, but the 3dish graphics do take a bit of getting used to when trying to explore. I'd still recommend any jrpg fans to try them though, cool stories, likeable characters.
Re: PlayStation Fans Torn on Prospect of PS5 Pro
It'll do ok I think, if it's similar to PS4/PS4 pro. The PS4 pro was just a machine for the more dedicated/well off, it never eclipsed the base model.
Re: New PS5, PS4 Games This Week (25th March to 31st March)
@CutchuSlow I'm wondering who it's aimed at lol. The shows not going on any more is it? So seems an odd kids game.
Re: Sony Allegedly Pausing PSVR2 Production Due to Surplus of Unsold Stock
@SgtTruth https://www.pcgamer.com/resident-evil-7-vr-is-exclusive-to-playstation-vr-for-a-year/
Re: Sony Allegedly Pausing PSVR2 Production Due to Surplus of Unsold Stock
@SgtTruth resident evil 7's exclusivity ran out years ago, yet capcom never bothered to move the vr to pc. Honestly it suggests they'd have never made it vr at all if Sony hadn't funded it. I personally think that's an example of exclusivity being a force for good, a product being made that very likely never would have otherwise.
Re: Japan Sales Charts: Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth PS5 Sales Slip 91% at Retail
Also this game is quite unique in that playing the first is probably considered a requirement by most people. People who haven't played the first prob won't even be tempted to buy it even 'to add to the pile' yet.
Re: Japan Sales Charts: Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth PS5 Sales Slip 91% at Retail
I don't know about Japan, but I do know that games disappearing suddenly in the second week can often be down to physical availability issues. It might just be that there weren't any copies to buy.
Re: Classic JRPG Package Grandia HD Collection Is Finally Coming to PS4 Later This Month
@skaarj217 yeah the ps1 original via ps+ premium. This is the remastered version. Not that I'd imagine a huge difference between them. Grandia 2 is new to PS4/5 though.
Re: Classic JRPG Package Grandia HD Collection Is Finally Coming to PS4 Later This Month
@DaniPooo they are talking about a physical version of the pixel remaster collection I think. The one run was so limited that it sold out in seconds. Copies rarely even appear on eBay, suggesting that the number printed was ridiculously low.
Re: Classic JRPG Package Grandia HD Collection Is Finally Coming to PS4 Later This Month
@Flaming_Kaiser don't even get me started on ff pixel remaster. I swear square must've only made like 100 copies for PS4. I know it's hard to judge how many games are going to sell and sometimes under estimate, but the demand is/was clearly there in that case.
Re: First Persona 3 Reload DLC Out Now, Adds Songs from Persona 5 and 4
I bought the original dlc, prob not bothering with this though, not planning on playing again anytime soon. Extra songs are quite cool when you are playing though. You can go to the settings and change the battle music to random, so you don't get the same song every single time. There seems to be a bug (?) where selecting random takes the actual original music out of the mix altogether though.
Re: Classic JRPG Package Grandia HD Collection Is Finally Coming to PS4 Later This Month
@Czar_Khastik yeah switch was limited run only. I doubt it'll get another physical. It'll very likely hold its value if you get one though. Assuming you don't mind waiting a year for it to turn up 🙄
Re: Persona 3 Reload: Episode Aigis Expansion Pass Priced at Roughly £30 / $35
@RudeAnimat0r I've read the original was about 30 hours, but it got a very mixed reception at the time. maybe the remake alters it a lot though who knows.
Re: PS Store Sales Charts: Helldivers 2 Is Unstoppable, Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth Settles for Second
Persona 3 seems to be out of stock, in all the town stores at least. I suspect it would be higher if it was more available.
Edit : oh these are digital sales? I can't explain that then. Except RPG fans are possibly more inclined to buy physical than other genres.
Re: Full Price Remake Persona 3 Reload Will Be 'Complete' with Episode Aigis DLC, Says Producer
@ATaco did you play the original? I never did but reviews of the (PS2) final chapter seems to be pretty negative from what I've seen. Complaints that it's just a dungeon crawl, and a really hard one at that.
Re: Talk of Final Fantasy 7 Remake Trilogy Being Completely Console Exclusive to PlayStation Is Inaccurate
@kedireturns yeah the phrase 'console exclusive', ignoring pc releases has been around for a while now. It's understandably a bit confusing so usually when you use it you'll get at least one response disagreeing, pointing out it's on pc too.
Re: Sony Secures Final Fantasy 7 Remake Trilogy as PlayStation Console Exclusives
It probably wasn't that difficult to get, Xbox doesn't seem to have a huge jrpg fanbase. They've been trying to change that lately, but they still seem to be at the point where they need to offer a sweet game pass deal to get the devs to even bother putting them out on Xbox.