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@PlatinumMikey we can only hope about final fantasy. I'd love to see an attempt at making a modern turn based one.
Square have put out plenty of other turn based games on recent years, maybe it'll happen one day.

@Lysterao I've got idea how much money gamepass is making, but I don't think they could 'just stop' even if they wanted to at this point. The Xbox brand is too deeply associated with it now. They'd probably need a completely new console rebrand to abandon it now.

@B0udoir RPGs underestimating physical demand is pretty common, rpg fans still mostly try to get a physical copy if they can I think.

It's probably just a case of not many people playing them, (if any?) Does anyone even use the PS3 streaming regularly?
Original ps3's are still pretty cheap to get hold of (though slowly creeping up) and these games are still bargain basement prices, I'd imagine that what most people who still want to play PS3 games are doing.

@Jrs1 renting out things used to be huge, in theory it suits some people especially the less well off. The 36 month contract part makes that particular one seem a bit unattractive though.
Edit : and I'm assuming that it's probably got lower credit rating requirements than places like Argos.

@SelinaInTheOubliette I remember renting games out too. Even before blockbuster the local video shops would sometimes have a small selection of megadrive/SNES games.
I even rented out a second ps1 and two copies of doom once so we could try it multiplayer. Which was awesome at the time.

If I was a millionaire this would probably be the sort of stuff that I'd be spending it on lol.

@PlatinumMikey yeah the levelling up is infamous. Focusing on your main skills too quickly made you underpowered, yet worked correctly (probably following a guide) you could become a god.

I still think a separately sold drive is potentially a good thing for people. Disc drives tend to be the first thing to break down on a console, a cheap replacement would've saved me a lot on money on consoles in the past.
Obviously this strongly depends on them staying available and affordable though.

@Foxhound I'd like DragonForce (Saturn game) personally. I randomly remembered really enjoying it back it the day, looked it up on eBay and instant regret at whatever pittance I sold it on for back then.

@Czar_Khastik Amazon is offering it in the UK too. I assume it's different in other countries.

@Kanji-Tatsumi I think the main reason is Xbox 360 managed to do really well, despite having paid online. They weren't even offering any monthly games.
Xbox 360s had a ridiculously cheap console purchase though, was half the price of a PS3 at one point.
I'm not sure if monthly subscriptions are making consoles cheaper any more, but that was how the concept took off.

@Kidfunkadelic83 I played (I think) the first commandos game years ago on pc, was pretty fun, but it was very difficult. I'm surprised at how it still keeps popping up with new games/rereleases, I guess it must have some big fan base that I've completely missed out on.

Shenmue was the first time I felt like I was wandering around a real place, the nostalgia is justified it seemed incredible at the time. Maybe not number one but still.

I briefly tried one of these on PS4, it felt like it should've come with one of those 200 page manuals that used to be normal.

My favourite final fantasy, but yes I share the same concerns about a remake as others on this thread.
Though, it'd be pretty bold of square to bring their modern 'turn based is so old' mentality to this one. I suspect a remake will be a bit more faithful to the original this time.

Pentiment has 726 ratings on the PSN store, while only a fraction of buyers actually rate them, it is in line with a lot of highly rated lower budget games. Hardly seems not worth it to me.

I do like that as long as you claim them, they are there 'forever'. I think that's the weakness of the new subscription services, they don't really inspire any reason to stay subscribed like this model does.

I think maybe obsessing with a perfect end can be detrimental to a TV show. Game of thrones is obviously the most famous example, but to me umbrella academy is the most glaring one. The show was clearly cancelled with a rushed in ending.
Unless you've got a definitive ending in mind, it might just be best to keep going and just leave the show hanging if it does get cancelled for whatever reason, leave the end to the viewers imaginations rather than some awfully placed full stop attempt.

Unless Microsoft can organise some sort of cut of the steam sales on such a device, I really can't see it happening.
Though, if it did, I doubt Sony would attempt to block it. Its not really any different to being on pc.

Tempted by songs of conquest, though I've already got it on pc so that'd be a bit extravagant.
Terminator resistance for 9.99 a lot of people say it's good maybe I'll try that.
4500 games, yeesh, i feel sorry for the games at the bottom of the list.

@Bluemoon2008 I don't know, it does what it says. I do have an issue with ms boasting about day one gamepass while also selling early access, but that concern isn't relevant here.

Possibly the nichest request here, but I'd really like the bards tale trilogy remastered to finally make it to playstation.
Admittedly it'd probably only sell about 10 copies so I'm not getting my hopes up.

@Kenobi42 it makes sense to be honest. We've using solar powered calculators for decades and remotes can't use much more power than them. A ps5 controller on the other hand, uses significantly more.

It would be cool, but I personally can't see it any time soon. I mean we don't even have solar powered TV remotes and they barely use any power.
Though I'm not sure why we don't now that I think about it.

@SuperSilverback everybody hates that trophy lol. Apparently the trick is not to level up too much before you get her, or you'll miss out on a ton of lines commenting on how tough the fights are going to be.

Graded versions are in the sold filter for like £200. But graded is weird anyway, you are basically turning your game into a nft or cryptocurrency at that point. For the speculators rather than the gamers. I guess it doesn't even matter that it's not even playable any more.

Was a stunner at the time, was the game that pioneered the whole picking up audio logs thing I think, and it did it really well.
That's been copied by tons of games since of course, so I'm not sure it'll have the same impact nowadays.
The story is still unique though, is your enemy really an enemy if you are both fighting another one?

The internet seems pretty undecided about the life span of blu rays, (not surprising, considering they are still relatively young). I suspect the 20 year is more manufacturer extremely modest guess.

@SMJ yes people have been claiming consoles will be obsolete at some point for the last 30 years 🙄.

It is getting tempting to me, but like others I'm having to watch the pennies a bit more lately. Maybe during days of play.
And why haven't they ported astrobot (the psvr1 one) over yet? Surely that's a no brainer, it's many people's favourite psvr1 game.

It'd be pretty big if they did allow storefronts like steam/epic on it, but I personally can't see it happening. Though I'd have said the same about microsoft releasing games on playstation not too long ago so who knows.
Surely Microsoft would want to agree some sort of cut of the sales with them though. I can't see them releasing a box that most people are just going to use steam on without something to gain.

I was dubious at first, but it did grow on me. Though a lifetime love of RPGs means I'm more likely to endure the 'boring' bits possibly.
As for divisive, I'd argue that the most recent one has been more that. There's two camps of people that love/hate it, unlike this one which everyone had slightly different opinions of.

@anoyonmus driving games are probably the worst genre for getting delisted. Sponsored vehicles, music, even race tracks. That said, like sports games, it mostly goes uncommented on because the next game is usually mostly the same with nicer graphics. There are a few standouts that are missed though. Outrun 2006, Forza 4 (mostly by Brits) and probably others.

So I get guess anyone playing this will be considered an active Microsoft player. Looks good on the monthly reports I'm sure, but it does seem a bit cheeky, as the people will also still be considered active playstation users on Sonys reports too.

It still supports quite a few streaming services too last time I checked, honestly the price they've been selling at has been quite the bargain considering you get a blu ray player (and music cd!) too. I think they've been creeping up out of bargain territory lately though.

@RadioHedgeFund I think that's more dislike of phone games general standard of being free to play gacha models nowadays. Years ago when mobile phones were developing into what they are now, gamers were quite excited about being able to play games on them.
Though I don't really know how that evolved. I guess it could be argued that players don't buy phone games released the classic way. Have the mobile audience become trained not to accept them, or did they never like them in the first place?

@RadioHedgeFund I think people are allowed to express their disappointment if a game franchise they enjoy has taken such a different path. That's not entitled or snobbish.

PS2 was the one playstation I missed at it's peak, because I was addicted to everquest at the time. I caught up since then though, still got one set up. Playing through champions of norrath at the moment, an everquest spinoff strangely enough. I still play outrun coast 2 coast a lot too, that's definitely a lifetime comfort game for me at this point.

@nomither6 I find it frustrating that gamers even argue over physical Vs digital. Why can't we be happy that both exist, why does one have to 'win'?
I personally very much prefer physical, to the point that if it does disappear, then the gaming industry will be seeing significantly less of my disposable income.
Future proofing is my biggest concern. Admittedly companies have done a (mostly) decent job of keeping old digital libraries available to download so far, but the thought of my library of games being wiped out by one executive decision or a company running into financial trouble does not sit well with me.
Though, I know many people don't really care about that, some see games as far more one and done or whatever. Digital is beneficial to them, and maybe people with young kids etc.

It's quite surprising, the steam deck gets talked about everywhere, and I see quite a few floating around in second hand shops.
But still, I think hand held/cloud gaming, while fun, isn't the 'future' in that it's going to kill regular gaming. Most people don't travel enough to have an interest in it. Honestly, judging by forums, most people just claim to play it on the loo.
The switch's huge sales isn't the concrete proof that everyone wants mobile really. Other elements are boosting it's numbers too. Such as many households owning multiple switches, especially if they have kids. And Nintendo collectors are crazy, they'll buy every special edition switch that Nintendo puts out.

@nomither6 yes at which point all of your work is wiped out. I don't know, maybe games programmers don't care that much about legacy or whatever, but just seems wasteful to me to see years of work just wiped out.

Must be so miserable for people working on making these games. To have them just blotted out of existence. At least single player failures still hang around, sometimes gaining a belated cult following.

@Nakatomi_Uk yeah the PS4 version was an anniversary release, they gave it a new set of trophies, including a platinum. Price of the physical game has rocketed recently though.
I remember that PS3 hack, they let you pick two(I think?) games from a list. I don't remember bttf on it, though I'd already bought it so maybe I didn't pay it any mind.

Digital games need to 'check in' online now and again don't they? So a day wouldn't affect people, unless I assume you happen to pick that day to turn your console back on after an extended period. A much longer period of downtime would cause issues.
Unless I'm completely wrong, wouldn't be the first time.

@Orange_Juice probably mostly people who played it when it first came out. It really was a stand out title back then, the graphics on the Dreamcast version were well above the ps1 games. I think it was the first resi to have moving/scrolling areas too? Might be wrong on that.
Even the intro movie seemed really cool back then.

If they do release this, I hope they finally increase the size of the split screen boxes. I could understand them being so small on PS3, but I was a bit disappointed when they weren't increased for the PS4 release. And I'll be even more disappointed if ps5 can't handle it.

This made me Google best ever selling games. GTA is second only to (unsurprisingly) Minecraft at 300m. The most surprising is third place. Wii sports, which only ever came out on the original Wii.

Obsession with player growth, like final fantasy. So obsessed with with growth that it ends up alienating the people who helped it become popular in the first place.
Meanwhile, franchises like dragon quest and persona stubbornly stick to their turn based tactical roots (much to the dismay of some of the more 'progressive' video game journalists) and grow stronger with every release.

Bear in mind if companies do get their wish and get all digital, they will start going all in on pushing making streaming the standard.
And if that happens, games preservation will be in big trouble, no data at the users end to preserve.
It's in even digital only users to at least defend physical, because that won't the end of the story.