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The problem with subscription services is that there are just so many of them now. One on its own, sure it's just £10 a month or whatever, but then you add prime, a couple of TV subs, a music one, Microsoft office, an mmo and whatever else and before you know it you're spending £100 a month on them.
A subscription service has to be pretty special to make people's personal limits nowadays I think.

@CallMeDuraSouka I had a PS4 controller wear away once, an original PS4 controller. Which left me feeling very humiliated at the time as I was being a bit snarky to other people complaining about the same problem.

I guess if you are fortunate/unfortunate enough to be living in a household with lots of people and fighting for the TV, it has a purpose. I can't see anyone else being very interested in it though.

I didn't buy final fantasy 16, the first time since 7 that I haven't rushed out and bought a mainline one on release day.
I suppose you could argue that it's not fair that I haven't given it a chance, but when 'giving a chance' involves spending £60 on a game that I don't like the look of very much then it is debatable.

The absolutely obscene price that the physical PS4 final fantasy pixel remaster is going for shows that physical is far from being unwanted yet.

Edit : although in that case, it does appear that square only put out a handful of copies.

@czDante92 they may have bought them on a sale to be fair, this game did get cheap fast.
Not that we should be judging how people choose to spend their money anyway.

@tameshiyaku I think they need to make it accessible from the console, it's own section, for it to be more popular. I mean I'm aware of it and like the idea, but I've missed loads of quests just because I can't be bothered to keep checking the phone app.

Bit weird that it was the same judge who oversaw the original case who had the decision on the appeal? I mean are any American appeals successful under those circumstances?
But whatever. Enjoy paying £10 a month to rent call of duty I guess Xbox fans.

@SgtTruth there's more benefits, games tend to be cheaper physically, I mean I picked up Deathloop for £6 from cex, I don't think it's even come close to that digitally.
Lend to friends also.
And preservation is still a big deal. Yes sure maybe in 40 years when whatever has happened and Sony, steam, Microsoft might just be memories in a history book, the data on those discs could be the only thing left even without patches.

@Th3solution huge increase the first month for sure. But retention, I'm not so sure.

@Geep you've got a point, console, especially ps5 and Nintendo digital vs physical is probably not quite so huge.

@EvilSilentFrame it's true that Microsoft don't exactly have a stellar record of managing the games companies they buy out. Recently they seem to have adopted a 'don't get involved' approach, which is probably sensible given their history, but who knows how long that will last.

I suppose AI is quite a big threat to voice actors, companies could start using to clone their voice and not need the original actors any more.
Which is obviously one of the many huge court cases involving AI that we've probably got to look forward to.

Social media, where everybody got to speak to the world, and promptly found out that the world disagreed with them.

About time we had a new Bond game. I've found even the lesser rated ones in the past to be pretty enjoyable.

Threads is an unfortunate name for me, I associate the word with a scary old film about nuclear war lol.

First thought is what does this have to do with the case lol.
Though I guess it's the usual time for some sort of new cheaper version, if advancements in tech actually allow it.

@2here2there no square have confirmed 3 million total

@Ichiban they source at the end, gamesindustry.biz, and they source gsddata.

I always thought games companies didn't reveal digital sales, but apparantly gsddata know all (except Nintendo's). Makes me wonder why the figures are not more commonly reported.

Edit, that said, gsddatas site doesn't seem to provide easy access to any figures from a quick browse.

@Centaured yeah it could backfire, there's actually a good chance it will, Microsoft don't have a very strong history of success from buying out games companies. Most of them just seem to fade away.
It's a backfire that they can afford I guess though, even if it happened. Windows' uncontested dominance gives them money to throw around.
What the world needs is a strong competitor to windows, that'd be fun.

@rjejr Roblox has an even younger audience than even Minecraft or fortnite I think. From what I seen kids show an interest in Roblox very young. No idea how they manage it but something about it grabs toddlers attentions.

@MattBoothDev I disagree, I think Sony are aware that the physical option is a pretty big ace over pc, I think they'll defend it as best they can.

174 hours of cinematics! That puts even metal gear solid to shame doesn't it? Or literally any game ever, well aside from possibly final fantasy 14.

@Porco I don't know, I think the main targets for these collections are people who played them at the time. Quality is irrelevant when nostalgia is concerned, there's prob a lot of people with fond memories of the game gear games.
It's the same argument for the nes tmnt being included in that collection. It doesn't stand up well now, but it's one of the most remembered titles cause so many people played it back then.

Edit : it's the same reason that I'm still peeved that the c64 versions of turrican weren't included In that package. It is technically, a worse game than other ones, but it's the one that I played and would like to play again.

@MasterVGuides yeah they'll have to keep pumping out new content to keep people subscribed, or offer some sort of loyalty scheme.
That's the beauty of ps+ and games with gold (if it was any good), the longer you stay subscribed, the bigger your library gets.
Game pass doesn't even offer the usual big discount for a year. I guess the monthly fee.is as low as they are prepared to go.

It's odd, I don't know anyone who plays call of duty anymore, I would've thought considering how big it is I'd know quite a few.
Games like minecraft,fortnite and gta5 you can put them down to being hugely popular with kids still, but as far as I know cod isn't.
Maybe it's a usa thing.

Edit : though PS3, that was very different, especially during the black ops stage. Omg cod was all anyone could talk about.

@Art_Vandelay who sends 'unguarded' emails at work nowadays anyway? Least of all a higher up figure. They don't send traceable email trails of thought just for bants.

@Matroska I'd be interested in seeing the full price day one sales split, I'd imagine physical is still putting in a strong show there.

@NEStalgia Microsoft certainly would've taken call of duty away from playstation if they thought they could seal the deal without promising otherwise.
They were going through the exact motions as starfield, and now elder scrolls, before they were compelled to promise anything. 'oh maybe we will, maybe we won't, who knows? Actually we're not going to'.

New story circling that apparantly Bethesda isn't happy that Activision is being treated differently regarding multiplatform. So see you all on that monster thread when it appears on here

I remember years ago a reviewer in a pc magazine comparing Microsoft to the Borg. Which always seemed pretty appropriate to me.

Quest announced San Andreas ages ago, and haven't spoken about it since.

I buy digital games when they are massively discounted, but unlike physical, there is zero chance of me paying £30+ for one.
I can even understand digital only sometimes for niche/indie games, that may or may not sell well.
This game actually may fall into that category, I guess they aren't going to publicly announce that it's digital only cause it may not sell a lot, hence the amnesia that patches exist.

Edit : And I still think Nintendo and Sony are aware that physical is one of the few remaining advantages over pc, I can't see them giving up physical any time soon.

It's so cringe. Sure the future is always uncertain, but Microsoft definitely know if they currently PLAN to release it on playstation or not, the embarrassing dancing around the question shows that they aren't obviously.

Seems unlikely, Deathloop and Ghostwire were both high risk games, so funding made sense.
Starfield however, a mainline Bethesda game that basically appears to be Skyrim or fallout in space, was always going to be money in the bank.
Exclusivity, even a year would've been big money I think.
Though yeah, even if there was a years exclusivity in the works, buying the whole company just because of that is clearly a silly justification.

@PixelDragon yes those poor people. Nothing but total workplace domination to console themselves with.

@Tharsman I think it (ouya) was considered a fairly good value emulation machine for a while, kind of lived on in that regard.

@__jamiie how would that work, it would be streaming only, you wouldn't be able to install Xbox games on a ps or switch.

I'm surprised Disney allowed it to be amended.
Unless MS threw more money at them. Which I wouldn't be so surprised about 🙄

@Savage_Joe they aren't collective minds though, they are individual people expressing an opinion. Many of them grounded in reality. Xbox historically has not been very interested in jrpgs, if they suddenly want to try and drop some big bucks to turn that tide, then good luck to them, but they have a lot of work (and money) ahead of them.

@Savage_Joe what does 'lose their collective minds' even mean? Have you even read the comments above you?

Microsoft would have to be practically fully funding it's development to convince them to make this exclusive I think. Which I suppose they've got the cash to do if they really wanted to 🤷

It does seem strange that they can't just leave it up and enjoy the occasional purchase, surely if it's available to redownload it can't cost any more to leave it available to purchase too? Licensing I guess.
Though this is nothing compared to the supposed streaming future. Games that not many people play anymore won't stand a chance there, and you won't be able to rely on 'other methods' either, as the data won't be on anyone's systems.

Always a laugh reading the 'i'm sick of reading about this' comments. Seems a lot of people out there are being held hostage and forced to read things by their captors.

@tameshiyaku I wont be buying it if it doesn't get a physical release. It's not a dramatic statement, it's just telling the world where I'm personally at with this.

Well I won't be buying it then. I think they are making a mistake assuming the remaining physical purchasers will just move to digital when their hand is forced.

@Tharsman persona isn't a call of duty, but it's certainly a lot more popular than a lot of franchises out there.
Calling it niche and using the word millions several times in your explanation is kinda eh.

The devil survivor games on 3ds were pretty cool so atlus do have some experience with tactical games, I think it could be good, even if p5 is starting to feel a bit overused.

It's my favourite final fantasy, a remake would be fantastic, if they keep what I like about it. And yes that means turned based or I'm just going to ignore it.