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$400 million dollars lost from Concord. 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

@LogicStrikesAgain Fortnite is a little different. The skins make the player’s character vs Hero games like overwatch and Apex where part of the kit is the hero’s style.

@LogicStrikesAgain think it was just a mixture of things adding up to a total ***** storm. The game itself was good, but it was one of the most trend chasing games in recent years. On top of it you have it coming from Sony which has been very quiet and hasn’t shown off anything new from their 1st party teams for a while, on top of a lot of other hero shooters close to launching that also play good but are free, on top of it having bad character design and its biggest “innovation” being weekly cutscenes which no one gives a ***** about.

@LogicStrikesAgain and Sony should come up with multiplayer games and new ip, just make them good. They probably won’t but hopefully they take the right lessons from Concord’s failure and Helldivers 2 success. Make new multiplayer games with unique mechanics and unique experiences.

@cburg shut up and get it right….. it’s the series s

I hope if the rework doesn’t work out that Sony keeps them on to do something else and that they don’t lose their jobs. Also think if Marathon turns out to be a hit with so many coming from bungie them being a support team could maybe help. Sad for the rank and file who just worked on the game.

@BIG3 they probably will. Think it’s the view of if they are going to port to pc which is the most cost effective move might as well do it for Xbox too cause you can maybe get a game pass bag eventually

@Kierant202 they would do much better on pc if they would release day and date. The old adage of you only have one first impression applies here. They miss out of the launch hype and don’t get the full zeitgeist

@Anthony_Daniels literally every other major Japanese 3rd party publisher sales would show otherwise. Xbox is whatever but PC absolutely makes a difference

@BIG3 problem is that releasing only on one system isn’t enough to cover the dev cost and the exclusivity deal isn’t enough to offset the dev cost. If the games are going to continue to be expensive they need to go full multiplat.

@DonJorginho sega/atlus seems to be finding great success launching day and date on pc. It’s clear and obvious Square’s strategy of doing console exclusivity at launch isn’t working with how much they are expecting to make. Infinite wealth has a record of 46,000 and p3 reload has a record of 36,000. I love both of those games but they are smaller ip then FF. So if the next major FF launches day and date on pc and is as good as the last 3 major FF games they are going to find major success. It’s either they need to release games on more platforms or make cheaper budgeted games.

PS fanboys won’t like to admit it but for 3rd party games they need to launch on all platforms (mainly pc). Looking at every other major AAA 3rd party Japanese publisher and they are all doing way better and it’s no coincidence that they all have a renewed focus on launching everywhere. Do Xbox’s releases really help, no probably not, but if they are doing a pc port anyways why not take the extra time to also do a Xbox port and have the chance at eventually getting a game pass deal. It’s no coincidence that Capcom, Sega/Atlus, Brandi Namco, Fromsoftware are all hitting new success records cause of increasing where they release games.

@DonJorginho the reason why the peak numbers are low is because they didn’t launch day and date and lost out on the launch hype. Go look at LAD infinite wealth’s numbers and p3 reload numbers. Launching day and date on all platforms help, mainly PC.

Good news, it’s a good game and it’s in a good spot rn. Just a shame it launched in a less then ideal state on PC.

@themightyant plus the vast majority of games do still hit at or close to 60 fps.

Sony back on their PS3 stupidity I see.

Good. Now hopefully everyone can move on to what really matters. The games. Need updates on their 1st party line up.

Glad that Astro bor is dancing on concord’s grave

Ain’t no way anyone with a Brain would actually believe this type of chatter

@Godot25 that’s what I’m saying. Like how do you ***** this up??? Like the name of the studio behind the game is literally the name of the engine lol 😂

lol it’s funny how sharkmob made a battle royle and then went and said let’s ride trends again and make an extraction shooter. This game is probably gonna fail hard lol.

Kinda redundant but I’ll always take a release date announcement

@dark_knightmare2 yes concord plays great but it doesn’t do anything to truly set itself apart from other similar games that are free to play. I whole heartedly agree it plays great but that by itself isn’t enough in todays market.

@Killionaire think the main thing this games MP has going for it is that it’s unique and their isn’t any other type of MP like this on the market nowadays. It has a special “gimmick” that helps it set itself apart

@dark_knightmare2 I compare the two cause in terms of PvP games they offer two different types of PvP games. Space Marine 2 has a specific hook that sets its apart from any other PvP game. Which is the exact opposite of concord which doesn’t have anything special to itself that hasn’t been done by numerous other games that are free vs being $40. There’s also the point that Concord should have probably added a single player campaign and a pve mode and could have charge $70. Space marine 2 is a very content rich package with a unique angle which concord doesn’t have.

Really interested to see the PvP mode. Think it’s gonna have an interesting enough premise where it’s gonna do well. It’s gonna be interesting seeing this game probably do very well vs a game like Concord which doesn’t really have anything interesting about it.

Gunfire is on fire after Remnant 2 last year so let them ***** cook baby!!!

Very unfortunate considering Final Shape did very well critically and it seemed commercially. It is the reality of being owned by a larger corporation. They still probably will be fine once they get into this new structure.

@UltimateOtaku91 and right here is one of the worst takes ever lol 😂

@Korgon right there with you. Really want this game to do well but things aren’t looking good so far for it.

@Toot1st there are gonna be cosmetics you can buy but now battle passes

@Sequel the vast majority of people think the game isn’t bad, it’s just that it doesn’t do anything special to set it apart from other competitors. On top of it charging $40 for it is a very bad look.

@Oram77 some of the criticisms are fair. The live service genres are saturated and the vast majority of new life service games fail and seeing PlayStation in particular invest so much into them without having a clear roadmap for their core single player games with what’s coming added up to a lot of negative feelings.

@themightyant would say it’s fair considering this is a PlayStation focused site and that the biggest point against concord is that it’s $40 vs rivals which is free to play. They aren’t being malicious with it, they are just stating factual numbers and good inferences on how Concord is gonna go if things don’t change with it.

@Oram77 the only thing that game could have going for it is how much of an extraction shooter it is and what it does unique. That’s one of the few genres of mp shooter that is still open for new comers that can break on through. Yes you have mainstays like hunt and vigor on console but none of those are juggernauts. Tarkov isn’t on console. Hell even COD wasn’t able to crack that genre. Think that game stands a better chance then concord.

@themightyant I mean this is just stating facts. The two games are similar and in their beta period’s one destroyed the other.

@nyr2k2 completely agree that it’s failure was clear. They need to do a better job of making more unique live service games. Know it’s a lot harder said then done but they need to do a better job of trying to figure out what games will work. They are capable of it and Helldivers proves it. It’s a hard line between trying to find a game that has the capacity of being a hit but is also niche enough to separate itself from the competition.

@UltimateOtaku91 they have the experience and the talent that made the game lol 😂. Come on man don’t be so dense. The creative talent is the most important thing in this industry. Helldivers as an ip wasn’t worth ***** until Arrowhead made it what it is. In the turbulent times this industry is in it’s the smart bet to bet on yourselves vs selling to a large corporation that doesn’t have the best track record with Live service.

@nyr2k2 this is also the wrong mindset to have. Them investing into live services isn’t a bad thing, but they need to be smart about it. Helldivers 2 was a good bet. Concord on the other hand was a bad trend riding bet and seems to be a bad bet.

This is sad but not surprising. The game does play really ***** good. But that’s not enough in this genre nowadays. This game doesn’t do anything different or special compared to other similar games. And when a game doesn’t stand out and charges $40 for it, it’s not gonna succeed.

@UltimateOtaku91 they haven’t acquired Arrowhead cause why the ***** would arrowhead sell? They have damn near universal good will and can get deals with any publisher they want. Vs being bought by a large corporation that is in a rough situation cause of the economy and could shut you down.

Reality is that it’s a solid game that does play well, but it is being priced for failure. Also while it plays good and is fun it doesn’t do enough to stand out from other similar games that are free.

@UltimateOtaku91 Yes there was a big push against Sony’s live service push, rightfully so with how live service games have been over the last 2 ish years. But the main point is more so that most of the complaints with concord are about the game itself. It hasn’t set itself apart from the competition at all and is being set up for major failure. Their live service games need to be great to stand apart from the competitor's. Helldivers 2 success proves this.

@UltimateOtaku91 you have your head up your ass if you think people are making fun of concord just cause it’s a multiplayer game. It’s a decent game that hasn’t set itself apart at all from other similar games.you are also completely missing the point that those other games are established and not a brand new ip.

@Bionic-Spencer the two are not directly connected. The reality is that naughty dog is not suited to make a fully fledged live service game. Bad things happen when single player focused teams make live service games. It’s better that it got canned.

Sony spreading the 1st beta to all ps+ subscribers was a good indicator that pre orders for ps5 were not good.