@zupertramp @naruball @thefourfoldroot Depends. I feel as though trophies should be supplemental and something like this, chastising a game for creating more content but not creating "more content" for a checklist is....weird.
You just got more game. Why does it matter if the checklist gets bigger too? You clearly enjoyed it enough the first time to get the trophies.
I feel like that's what I'm getting at. A game can have trophies, you enjoy it, do em all, move on. But if the DLC or a service game doesnt add MORE trophies with new content drops...you wont go back or its offensive?
Clearly then you see no merit in going back even though you enjoyed the game enough to get the platinum?
Trying to articulate this is quite hard
@james_games I guess it just depends on what the trophies entail. Sometimes...I see a trophy list be stretched out. Do x things while playing that either arent an actual feat, like Jump x times (Unless you're a games journalist I guess?) and other stuff like beating a game 100% in x time.
One of em you'll just do. I dont see why that is worthy of accomplishment. A story beat, sure. A collection milestone, yeah. Opening a menu? Nah.
I guess for general trophies there is a balance to be had.
If you need the operating system to give you a reward for playing instead of the game itself, you have a problem.
Ratchet and Clank killed off skill points for Trophies, and Rift Apart doesnt even have you do everything to "Complete" it in many gamers eyes.
The fact a game's value, replayability and enjoyment now seemingly comes from how much the developers let the system itself reward you is...baffling to me.
At what point are you playing the game to see your profile number go up, instead of for the game itself? Are the games now not fun or not offering enough to make it worthwhile?
Sounds like it's bundling a lot of recently popular dev techniques into the hardware. Focused rendering where non essential information isn't as high res (Ori did this for instance, away from the player character), and what may either be upscaling or dynamic resolution, hard to say with a name like Flexible Resolution.
The first news about a game annnounced in a Nintendo show in god knows how long after being stuck in development limbo ends up being an announcement of a version on another console before it's even out on Switch.
Sounds like what happened with Nintendo and Next Level Games. Have a close relationship, the shareholders in Next Level wanted them to sell after the mega hit Luigi's Mansion 3 topped off constant progress and growing hit after hit, and Nintendo saw that and went "Like hell you are" before anyone else got in.
Sony and Nintendo learned from what happened with Rare, the minute the company mentions selling, you need to buy.
Its also a problem that Ghost of Tsushima already has a patch for backwards compatibility on PS5 that gives it dynamic 4K resolution at 60fps.
But for $10 more you can get dynamic 4K at a maybe more stable 60fps? Plus controller features that The Last of Us Part 2 patched into back compat for free, and the use of activities and the such we keep forgetting about.
@Rob_230 Level-5...maybe. Nintendo would be the other obvious guess but they dont like bailing out sinking ships otherwise they would have nabbed AlphaDream.
NihonFalcom....nope. Those guys are spending a lot of time pulling themselves away from being dependant on PlayStation along with a lot of other Japanese developers of their scale.
@Philbop People are going for what's in the next few months it seems which is fair. BOTW2 being 2022 probably means a vast majority of preorders won't happen until the date is locked down.
@get2sammyb The question is how many hardware units are the digital only model. That'll tell us how many maximum physical copies they could sell to each owner of a disc based system assuming every system sold is actually in use and everyone bought a copy of the game.
This borders on Pokemon Sun and Moon levels of showing everything off pre release now.
This would have been a cool thing to see but no, let's do a whole ad campaign about our endgame weapon because it has some references which nets a few extra sales.
@Orpheus79V They didn't need to upgrade from the initial Hedgehog Engine either but they did. It worked at 4k on PCs, did numerous art styles (Unleashed, Generations and Lost World) worked across multiple architectures. Heck many argue Unleashed visually is a more impressive game than Forces
@Orpheus79V So is the PS4, and Sonic Team still spent 3 out of 4 years making Hedgehog Engine 2, and then had the actual game part made by people who had never worked on Sonic before.
Its not whether or not the PS5 is easy to get the game running on. Its a matter of how much time and effort does Sonic Team want to spend tweaking how it looks to use the PS5's capabilities.
@Grumblevolcano They went the Nintendo route and then some.
Nintendo goes for 33% off, so a £50 game (their high price save for BOTW and Smash) drops to between £30 and £35.
For Sony, a £70 game dropping to £60 is...not even 20%.
So yeah they're trying a Nintendo, holding value in their games, except now they are a higher price than even them by a large margin, and the deals are worse.
At least here in the UK I can pay £85 for two Switch game vouchers and as long as Nintendo is the publisher it doesn't matter the price, you get the game. £100 worth of games for £85 plus you get gold points for other small savings from those purchases.
Never thought I'd say this but for once Nintendo has the better digital deals. Yikes.
Oh boy. The same weapons we've been seeing game in and game out since 2007 with Tools of Destruction. Buzz Blades, Mr Zurkon, surprised the Combustor isn't back again.
@thedevilsjester I'd assume that this being a separate volatile save file would not be uploaded.
The example I have of course was long before cloud saves were a concept. You just said the action itself would allow.save scumming, not a cloud save of that volatile save. I understand now.
@Quintumply Digital sales were revealed by Christopher During last weekend. Even if you include Returnals UK digital sales, it falls in behind the physical sales of New Pokemon Snap. So it was #2 for the week regardless.
@get2sammyb Digital sales have been looked at, even with the fact Pokemon Snap doesnt include digital sales, Returnal was still #2 for the week with digital included.
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Re: Abandoned App Patch Drops, Trailer Is the Same as Twitter Tease
@SplooshDmg @LiamCroft Shu retweeted it, so SOMEONE is clearly aware of it.
Re: Soapbox: I Don't Understand Service Games That Don't Add Trophies
@zupertramp This is true.
I am just rather befuddled by the almost obsession of certain folks at this point around Trophies. Game doesnt have em, not worth it.
Like....what?
Re: Soapbox: I Don't Understand Service Games That Don't Add Trophies
@zupertramp @naruball @thefourfoldroot Depends. I feel as though trophies should be supplemental and something like this, chastising a game for creating more content but not creating "more content" for a checklist is....weird.
You just got more game. Why does it matter if the checklist gets bigger too? You clearly enjoyed it enough the first time to get the trophies.
I feel like that's what I'm getting at. A game can have trophies, you enjoy it, do em all, move on. But if the DLC or a service game doesnt add MORE trophies with new content drops...you wont go back or its offensive?
Clearly then you see no merit in going back even though you enjoyed the game enough to get the platinum?
Trying to articulate this is quite hard
@james_games I guess it just depends on what the trophies entail. Sometimes...I see a trophy list be stretched out. Do x things while playing that either arent an actual feat, like Jump x times (Unless you're a games journalist I guess?) and other stuff like beating a game 100% in x time.
One of em you'll just do. I dont see why that is worthy of accomplishment. A story beat, sure. A collection milestone, yeah. Opening a menu? Nah.
I guess for general trophies there is a balance to be had.
Re: Soapbox: I Don't Understand Service Games That Don't Add Trophies
If you need the operating system to give you a reward for playing instead of the game itself, you have a problem.
Ratchet and Clank killed off skill points for Trophies, and Rift Apart doesnt even have you do everything to "Complete" it in many gamers eyes.
The fact a game's value, replayability and enjoyment now seemingly comes from how much the developers let the system itself reward you is...baffling to me.
At what point are you playing the game to see your profile number go up, instead of for the game itself? Are the games now not fun or not offering enough to make it worthwhile?
Re: Rumour: Sony Targeting AAA Titles for Stunning Next-Gen PS5 VR Headset
Sounds like it's bundling a lot of recently popular dev techniques into the hardware. Focused rendering where non essential information isn't as high res (Ori did this for instance, away from the player character), and what may either be upscaling or dynamic resolution, hard to say with a name like Flexible Resolution.
Re: NBA 2K22 to Stay Fresh with Evolving PS5, PS4 Soundtrack
One step closer to just making the game a damn evolving platform instead of yearly releases.
Re: Seagate FireCuda 530 Is the First Third-Party SSD Compatible with PS5
@MrMetroid I get about two hours for gaming as is. Less when I get promoted in two weeks. That time downloading is time wasted.
Yes rest mode exists, but my PS5 likes turning itself off in Rest mode.
Re: Seagate FireCuda 530 Is the First Third-Party SSD Compatible with PS5
Given how few games you can fit in the 600GB or so of internal storage, the 1TB is an absolute minimum.
But even that won't be much. Maybe 15-20 games if you're lucky.
Re: Destruction AllStars Free Costumes in Sackboy: A Big Adventure Are a Reminder the PS5 Game Exists
@nessisonett I'd play Call of Duty: ROLFCopter.
Absolutely for the meme though.
Re: Rumour: Windjammers 2 PS4 Open Beta Seemingly Uploaded to PS Store Servers
@Rudy_Manchego It's been that long? Blimey... That makes me sad.
Fell back in love with the original when it got re-released.
Re: Rumour: Windjammers 2 PS4 Open Beta Seemingly Uploaded to PS Store Servers
The first news about a game annnounced in a Nintendo show in god knows how long after being stuck in development limbo ends up being an announcement of a version on another console before it's even out on Switch.
Seems familiar.
Maybe this is how Bayonetta 3 finally shows up
Re: New PS Vita Releases Pegged for 20th July as Sony Ceases Submissions
Sucks that they didn't convey this to developers who had to then can years of work or crunch, and this was the bit they didn't backpedal on. Oh well.
Re: Jim Ryan Says Players Only Remember the Best Games
Jim Ryan spoke about his opinion/goals for the business and the two are going to get muddled because it's Jim "Foot in Mouth" Ryan?
Where's my popcorn, this is gonna be good.
Also, we won't tell Miyamoto you stole his homework Jim. We promise.
"better to wait and have a great game than to rush and have a game that is okay or quite good".
Re: PS5 Console Exclusive Ghostwire: Tokyo Delayed to Early 2022
There was a popular song over the past few weeks I could parody.
Something abouts its coming out, Ghostwire's coming out.
Re: Sony Snapped Up Housemarque Before Someone Else Could
Sounds like what happened with Nintendo and Next Level Games. Have a close relationship, the shareholders in Next Level wanted them to sell after the mega hit Luigi's Mansion 3 topped off constant progress and growing hit after hit, and Nintendo saw that and went "Like hell you are" before anyone else got in.
Sony and Nintendo learned from what happened with Rare, the minute the company mentions selling, you need to buy.
Re: Sony Fans Bicker Over Ghost of Tsushima PS5 Paywall
Its also a problem that Ghost of Tsushima already has a patch for backwards compatibility on PS5 that gives it dynamic 4K resolution at 60fps.
But for $10 more you can get dynamic 4K at a maybe more stable 60fps? Plus controller features that The Last of Us Part 2 patched into back compat for free, and the use of activities and the such we keep forgetting about.
Wow there's no good spin here.
Re: Sony Acquires Dutch Developer Nixxes to Beef Up First-Party Tech Support
@Rob_230 Level-5...maybe. Nintendo would be the other obvious guess but they dont like bailing out sinking ships otherwise they would have nabbed AlphaDream.
NihonFalcom....nope. Those guys are spending a lot of time pulling themselves away from being dependant on PlayStation along with a lot of other Japanese developers of their scale.
Re: Sonic Team's Hoping the Next Major Sonic Game Will Lay the Foundations for Franchise's Future
Even if it ends up as "Okay" I hope they don't chicken out and refine it in the following game.
Sonic Lost World had potential to be evolved and they just wimped out but when Unleashed was okay and had potential they refined it in the next game.
Re: Guardians of the Galaxy, Far Cry 6 Among Top PS5, PS4 E3 2021 Pre-Orders
@Philbop People are going for what's in the next few months it seems which is fair. BOTW2 being 2022 probably means a vast majority of preorders won't happen until the date is locked down.
Re: Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart's Pixelizer HD Plays a Funky Melody with PS5 Pad's Haptics
What, haptic feedback can play music?
This surprises Kirby (2018) immensely. Immensely I say!
Re: PS5 Games Are Still Selling Poorly at Retail in Japan
@get2sammyb The question is how many hardware units are the digital only model. That'll tell us how many maximum physical copies they could sell to each owner of a disc based system assuming every system sold is actually in use and everyone bought a copy of the game.
Re: All Five Shantae Games Are Hair-Whipping PS5, Including the Game Boy Color Original
@wiiware I keep forgetting that game is a thing, given its Pirates Curse Part 1.
DSiWare was basically GBA styled games with a bit more detail tbh. Pirates Curse used the same art style too but that game is sooooo good.
Re: All Five Shantae Games Are Hair-Whipping PS5, Including the Game Boy Color Original
@wiiware Ah yes the Shantae Game Boy game that isn't on PS4 yet 🤣
Re: Gotta Go Fast! Here's a Speedy Sonic Colors Ultimate Gameplay Video
@RogerRoger There's no evidence of Nintendo paying for Secret Rings/Colours/Black Knight.
Lost World and Rise of Lyric, yes. Lost World is on PC though.
I assume you take the same stance to stuff like Final Fantasy 16, countless Xbox stunts and the like?
Re: Gotta Go Fast! Here's a Speedy Sonic Colors Ultimate Gameplay Video
@RogerRoger The exclusivity was due to Sonic games historically selling way better on Nintendo platforms than others.
It's not baffling when it's business, and we know SEGA, they go where the cash is. It's why Xbox is currently in their pockets.
Re: Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart PS5 Launch Trailer Is Pure Hype
An ominously posh villain.
Watch it be Drek or someone 🤣
Re: Insomniac Devs Say Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart Was Made without Crunch
So was Animal Crossing and Luigi's Mansion 3, and many games from other developers.
And it's really sad those games need medals for that.
Re: Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart (PS5) - Intergalactic Stunner Puts PS5's Power on Display
I'm impressed people still think the open world stuff started in Nexus and not, you know, the two levels that did it in Ratchet 2.
Re: Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart Marketing Revives Sunset Overdrive Accounts
This borders on Pokemon Sun and Moon levels of showing everything off pre release now.
This would have been a cool thing to see but no, let's do a whole ad campaign about our endgame weapon because it has some references which nets a few extra sales.
Re: Action RPG Babylon's Fall Getting 'Exciting Update' at Square Enix E3 2021 Show
At least Platinum will show off something this year.
Re: PlayStation Studios Boss Suggests God of War Ragnarok, Gran Turismo 7 Are Also Coming to PS4
Be funny If true when GT7 had PS5 Exclusive slapped all over it's trailer...
Re: There's a Brand New Sonic Game Coming to PS5, PS4 in 2022
@Orpheus79V They didn't need to upgrade from the initial Hedgehog Engine either but they did. It worked at 4k on PCs, did numerous art styles (Unleashed, Generations and Lost World) worked across multiple architectures. Heck many argue Unleashed visually is a more impressive game than Forces
Don't underestimate Sonic Teams stupidity.
Re: There's a Brand New Sonic Game Coming to PS5, PS4 in 2022
@Orpheus79V So is the PS4, and Sonic Team still spent 3 out of 4 years making Hedgehog Engine 2, and then had the actual game part made by people who had never worked on Sonic before.
Its not whether or not the PS5 is easy to get the game running on. Its a matter of how much time and effort does Sonic Team want to spend tweaking how it looks to use the PS5's capabilities.
Re: There's a Brand New Sonic Game Coming to PS5, PS4 in 2022
That's be 5 years since the last Sonic title Sonic Team made.
Add on two new consoles to make it for and it may be Forces again. They spent 3 of that games 4 year dev cycle making the graphics engine...
Re: Dragon Quest III HD-2D Remake Is a Gorgeous Reimagining, Gets a Worldwide Release
@ChromaticDracula Ah yes, the Octopath Engine.
Or to us normies, Unreal Engine 4
Re: PS Store Days of Play Sale Discounts 60 PS5 Games, 500 PS4 Games
That's still $85 for a PS5 game.
Well, it's better than nothing? 🤷
Re: Biomutant (PS4) - The Classic Case of What Could Have Been
THQNordic strikes again with another average at best title.
Re: Dying Light: Platinum Edition Leaks, But Don't Get Too Excited
@itsfoz That price is what is currently listed for the Anniversary Edition on the PS Store yeah.
Re: Dying Light: Platinum Edition Leaks, But Don't Get Too Excited
@AK4tywill Thinking about it more, surely the original base game at launch was $60/£50 or thereabouts.
How did the entire thing get discounted with add-ons in AMerica, but more expensive here?
Bruh
Re: Dying Light: Platinum Edition Leaks, But Don't Get Too Excited
@OorWullie Just read that.
Had to rub my eyes.
It costs HOW MUCH HERE?!
$40 in America.
$80 in Britain.
Re: PlayStation Confirmed Part of Summer Game Fest 2021
Ah yes, Summer Games Mess, which was 4 months + of just....random announcements.
Tune in on this day for this thing. Now this thing next week. Okay now who's doing what and when?
Get ya flowcharts out people
Re: Sony Discounting Demon's Souls, Spider-Man: Miles Morales, and More PS5 Games in Days of Play Sale
@Grumblevolcano They went the Nintendo route and then some.
Nintendo goes for 33% off, so a £50 game (their high price save for BOTW and Smash) drops to between £30 and £35.
For Sony, a £70 game dropping to £60 is...not even 20%.
So yeah they're trying a Nintendo, holding value in their games, except now they are a higher price than even them by a large margin, and the deals are worse.
At least here in the UK I can pay £85 for two Switch game vouchers and as long as Nintendo is the publisher it doesn't matter the price, you get the game. £100 worth of games for £85 plus you get gold points for other small savings from those purchases.
Never thought I'd say this but for once Nintendo has the better digital deals. Yikes.
Re: Zurkon Jr. Guides Us Through Weapons and Traversal in Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart Video
Oh boy. The same weapons we've been seeing game in and game out since 2007 with Tools of Destruction. Buzz Blades, Mr Zurkon, surprised the Combustor isn't back again.
Re: Returnal's Save System Still Being Investigated, New Content in the Works
@thedevilsjester I'd assume that this being a separate volatile save file would not be uploaded.
The example I have of course was long before cloud saves were a concept. You just said the action itself would allow.save scumming, not a cloud save of that volatile save. I understand now.
Re: Returnal's Save System Still Being Investigated, New Content in the Works
@thedevilsjester It doesn't allow save scumming.
The way PMD quicksaving worked is once you did the quicksave it saved to a non permanent slot. It then forced you to close the game
Upon reopening the only menu option you had is to reload that quicksave which once loaded, deletes itself.
There is no way to recover that quicksave without making a new one, which means it'll save at the exact point you made it.
Using this method you can never go backwards mid run, only forwards. But it lets you take breaks.
Re: Returnal's Save System Still Being Investigated, New Content in the Works
Pokemon Mystery Dungeon from 2005.
Open menu. Quick save. Game boots you to menu. Next load is forced to be that quick save which then deletes itself.
Fixed it for you.
Re: Sony Has More Than 25 PS5 Exclusives in Development, And Almost Half Are New IP
Well if output is close to dev times for PS4, that's pretty much the generation sorted then. Two to 4 games per studio.
Re: UK Sales Charts: Resident Evil Village Sells Best on PS5, PS4 with 80% Share
@Quintumply Shame he didn't say what percentage of sales were digital. That'd give us a rough idea of the skew in where it's being bought.
Given it's pick up and play nature (in theory anyway) I'd have said digital.
Re: UK Sales Charts: Returnal Falls from Top 10 While Resident Evil Village Rules the Roost
@Quintumply Digital sales were revealed by Christopher During last weekend. Even if you include Returnals UK digital sales, it falls in behind the physical sales of New Pokemon Snap. So it was #2 for the week regardless.
Re: UK Sales Charts: PS5 Roguelike Returnal Off to Slower Start Than Other Sony Exclusives
@get2sammyb Digital sales have been looked at, even with the fact Pokemon Snap doesnt include digital sales, Returnal was still #2 for the week with digital included.
https://twitter.com/Chris_Dring/status/1390727442210381824?s=20