Horizon Forbidden West Remastered. It WAS technically a PS4 game after all. Didn't stop them patching Last of Us Part 2 to have enhanced PS5 features and then remastering it anyway.
Dear god why is this actually in the realm of possibilities.
To be fair, the UK did something stupid too, with it's HFSS law.
Can't have anything with high fat, sugar or salt within 2m of tills, on the end of an aisle, 15m of the store entrance, and in any prominent promotional spaces.
I was one of those "new users". Hadn't bought a game from the first party library since Rift Apart (and again later on PC for better performance and convenience).
Heck, It's a joke amongst friends that every time I turn my PS5 on it has to do a year's worth of updates.
The best time to buy it, insanely, was at launch when it was cheapest and had the highest hopes of quality and quantity software.
Instead, because it's just the world we live in now, it's more expensive to buy NOW and the software illusion isn't holding.
Though if you bought it at launch you'd have bought the original headset that doesn't support PlayStations new proprietary connection on the newer more expensive version that only two devices known to man seem to use, your optional disc drives and cover plates that don't work on a £700 system because the notches are in a different place simply to sell more.
But on the other hand, late stage capitalism baybeeeeee
@LavenderShroud The amazing part is that it's 1 million in three days but one of the target platforms only came out today. It'll probably hit 2m minimum when the year ends
@LowDefAl Actually you can extrapolate the sales of controllers, because each colour is tracked as it's own SKU, and this is ranked by overall value of sales, not volume.
So a controller at $80 across multiple SKUs tracked as unique items isn't going to rank compared to one high priced product selling more.
It's stupid and doesn't actually tell us anything.
It's like how for many years PS5 and Xbox Series (sometimes in that one's case anyway) came ahead of the Switch in dollar sales, followed by a footnote that the Switch sold more units.
It's a weird way of tracking things but Circana isn't concerned with sales, it tracks the movement of money
Nintendo had this issue once. So they took a look around and made a system people want to buy games for and play on that isn't just "The Other Guy But Lesser".
@nessisonett Secret Agent Klunk is surprisingly relevant to this game...
But yeah, this game is BAD. Like actually awful.
Same weapon problems as in Size Matters, the bolt economy is even worse to the point the PS2 version release later not only completely fixed that but also remodelled and retextured loads of the game, its a gameplay roulette of ideas doesnt mix with levelling up your weapons that do jack all damage, it wants to reward stealth but then your weapons dont level up for bosses, and then there's the bonus content.
Oh. My. God. Every stage has hidden invisible glyphs in challenge mode that you need to stop and scan with special glasses. How do you know where they are? Get looking. Could be on a random wall in the background, on the floor, behind you, or under a ledge in an autoscroller. Good luck! And thats just to unlock the High Impact Treehouse.
To unlock everything in THERE you need to find three coloured key cards hidden often over bottomless pits you need to leap of faith towards or activate a secret launch point for one of them IIRC that you cant even see. If you get those, you get the Dallas Challas that once per stage fully heals you....if you know the code to activate it.
Enjoy getting the Platinum folks. It absolutely sucks.
@GamingFan4Lyf Astal Chain, Ring Fit Adventure, Sushi Striker and Ever Oasis are all newer IP than ARMS, and they have been on a tear of reviving decades old IP like F-Zero, Another Code, Advance Wars, Famicom Detective Club and Endless Ocean just because they seemingly felt like it.
So there's really no excuse to keep pushing forward with new IP and not also reinvent and evolve the older ones.
@Cambrius If I was a Fairgame$ developer I'd be flashing my CV at any opportunity.
Sony bought Haven for that game that so far looks like generic Payday, which is eerily reminiscent of Firewall here: no games, live service title, seems generic as hell.
Plus with Jade Raymond at the helm, who hasn't released a game in over a decade, is ex Unisoft and Google Stadia...yeah I'd probably be job hunting.
Giving the PS4 Pro an extra layer of cake and overclocking the already god awful CPU, pairing it with a beefier GPU and sticking a larger heatsink inside to cool it and call it a day while the thing achieves flight.
Or giving the already increasingly expensive PS5 some Go Faster Stripes and charging an extra $100 or more.
God knows why they opted for not only moving away from two very profitable brands, with exclusives games on the most popular current system, and other licensed titles everywhere else, in favour of a mobile game also ported to PC and NFTs.
If it is, we would greatly prefer the PS2 version, which apart from the better controls the PSP couldnt manage, they actually rebalanced a few things in the game, including how many bolts you earn. So you go from perpetual poor, to actually buying stuff.
Also, good luck with the Platinum trophy. If you thought buying the RYNO at the bolt cap and doing at least two NG+ runs of Size Matters was bad, this game has invisible well hidden codes to find in NG+, and three super hidden keycards the game never mentions that unlocks an item that you can use only via a cheat code.
I tried seeing what this one was about since these guys seem to churn these games out at the rate of a chinese sweatshop making clothes, so I checked out the trending hashtag on Not-Twitter.
First 8 posts were porn.
So I can only assume whats next for the game is more scantily clad women with massive Honkais....I mean honkers, and blokes with throbbing Star Rails.
Try the veal. (But seriously thats ALL I ever hear or see of these games. Porn and pulls. Sounds like a website in of itself.)
Trying to get Waifu Bait into the Olympics. Bold strategy cotton, let's see if there's any audience crossover....nope, nope, you've just confused the middle aged white women
@ChrisDeku That depends how you measure that success.
Here we have Rise just shy of 15m on one platform, then on PC a year later, then other consoles long after that. World has been on sale for twice as long, across three platforms since the start, and hit 25m.
So in raw numbers, yes World was a bigger success. But if you say "sales were non existent on Xbox and PS4" then surely Rise as a set of staggered releases over half the time selling over half as much mainly from only two platforms is a greater success?
It certainly is baffling, but this is the problem with subscriptions, you hit that wall and all you can do is extract more money.
Same with games. Only so many people you can sell to before you have to start getting money elsewhere.
And actually, there is one subscription that didnt go up in price (Yet!): NSO. All they did was add another tier. The base tier is still getting new games and a new system last year, nothing has been removed apart from Pac-Man 99 so Bandai could try their own version that bombed, and the price remains $20 a year.
Will the price go up? Yes. But the fact it hasn't yet is......baffling.
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Re: Guerrilla's Next Horizon Game May Launch Sometime in 2025 on PS5
Horizon Forbidden West Remastered. It WAS technically a PS4 game after all. Didn't stop them patching Last of Us Part 2 to have enhanced PS5 features and then remastering it anyway.
Dear god why is this actually in the realm of possibilities.
Re: Stellar Blade's Anticipated PC Port Takes Flight Sometime in 2025
And they expect sales on PC to eclipse sales on console. Exciting stuff, clearly they know what they've got here for modders and that audience.
Re: Australia's Planned Social Media Ban to Include PSN
To be fair, the UK did something stupid too, with it's HFSS law.
Can't have anything with high fat, sugar or salt within 2m of tills, on the end of an aisle, 15m of the store entrance, and in any prominent promotional spaces.
But there is no one to enforce it. Womp womp
Re: Astro Bot Sells 1.5 Million PS5 Copies Inside Nine Weeks
I was one of those "new users". Hadn't bought a game from the first party library since Rift Apart (and again later on PC for better performance and convenience).
Heck, It's a joke amongst friends that every time I turn my PS5 on it has to do a year's worth of updates.
Re: Sony Says the Best Time to Get a PS5 Is Now
The best time to buy it, insanely, was at launch when it was cheapest and had the highest hopes of quality and quantity software.
Instead, because it's just the world we live in now, it's more expensive to buy NOW and the software illusion isn't holding.
Though if you bought it at launch you'd have bought the original headset that doesn't support PlayStations new proprietary connection on the newer more expensive version that only two devices known to man seem to use, your optional disc drives and cover plates that don't work on a £700 system because the notches are in a different place simply to sell more.
But on the other hand, late stage capitalism baybeeeeee
Re: Gotta Sell Fast! Sonic X Shadow Generations Has Already Surpassed 1 Million Copies Sold
@LavenderShroud The amazing part is that it's 1 million in three days but one of the target platforms only came out today. It'll probably hit 2m minimum when the year ends
Re: The Day Before Dev Cancels Kickstarter Bid, Brazenly Announces Another Game
Are we sure this isn't the same lot who rendered the video known as Abandoned?
Re: Manga Masterpiece Death Note Is Getting a PS5, PS4 Adaptation
Adapting manga to the PS5.
Use the touchpad to swipe through pages.
Re: One Year On, Plucky PS Portal's Sales Remain Strong
@LowDefAl Actually you can extrapolate the sales of controllers, because each colour is tracked as it's own SKU, and this is ranked by overall value of sales, not volume.
So a controller at $80 across multiple SKUs tracked as unique items isn't going to rank compared to one high priced product selling more.
It's stupid and doesn't actually tell us anything.
It's like how for many years PS5 and Xbox Series (sometimes in that one's case anyway) came ahead of the Switch in dollar sales, followed by a footnote that the Switch sold more units.
It's a weird way of tracking things but Circana isn't concerned with sales, it tracks the movement of money
Re: One Year On, Plucky PS Portal's Sales Remain Strong
Best selling accessory (in dollar sales).
Well yeah. I'd certainly hope so given it's over two times the price of most of the accessories on the market.
Re: Atlus Fans Don't Think Xbox's Marketing Is Doing Metaphor: ReFantazio Justice
I mean, I only know this game even exists because you lot shout about it.
I follow Xbox on social media and I didn't know about this coming out soon, not did I know Shattered Space or Hellblade came out so....
I think that says a lot.
Re: Microsoft Is Investigating Why Devs Are Prioritising PS5 Over Xbox
Nintendo had this issue once. So they took a look around and made a system people want to buy games for and play on that isn't just "The Other Guy But Lesser".
Mystery solved. Where's my cheque?
Re: Shadow's Campaign About the Same Length as Sonic's in Sonic X Shadow Generations
Woo! 4 hours! Can't wait.
Re: Genshin Impact's Rollerblading Waifu Will Bankrupt Whales on PS5, PS4
@RoomWithaMoose Introducing the Designers Barely Disguised Fetish.
Anyway, PornHub is free fellas.
Then again I imagine spending the money for a chance at a rare 5-star glistening waifu is some weird kink in of itself.
In a weird economical and sociological way.
Re: All Eyes on Aloy (Again), as Horizon Zero Dawn Remastered Comparison Does the Rounds
Which ones which? Because one has more detail and one doesn't.
Re: THQ Nordic Announces PS5 Port of PS4 Remaster of PS3 Action Game Darksiders 2
PS6 Backwards Compatibility to Let Gamers Play Favorite PS5 Remakes of PS4 Ports of PS3 Sequels of PS2 Classics
https://t.co/VBcsd4FFVv
Sorry, couldn't resist 😜
Re: Play the Worst Ratchet & Clank on PS5, PS4 with PS Plus Premium
@nessisonett Secret Agent Klunk is surprisingly relevant to this game...
But yeah, this game is BAD. Like actually awful.
Same weapon problems as in Size Matters, the bolt economy is even worse to the point the PS2 version release later not only completely fixed that but also remodelled and retextured loads of the game, its a gameplay roulette of ideas doesnt mix with levelling up your weapons that do jack all damage, it wants to reward stealth but then your weapons dont level up for bosses, and then there's the bonus content.
Oh. My. God. Every stage has hidden invisible glyphs in challenge mode that you need to stop and scan with special glasses. How do you know where they are? Get looking. Could be on a random wall in the background, on the floor, behind you, or under a ledge in an autoscroller. Good luck! And thats just to unlock the High Impact Treehouse.
To unlock everything in THERE you need to find three coloured key cards hidden often over bottomless pits you need to leap of faith towards or activate a secret launch point for one of them IIRC that you cant even see. If you get those, you get the Dallas Challas that once per stage fully heals you....if you know the code to activate it.
Enjoy getting the Platinum folks. It absolutely sucks.
Re: How to Pre-Order PS5 Pro
@danzoEX Step 3: If you have no functioning organs and are too ugly for OF, sell your physical copy of Concord to a collector.
Re: How to Pre-Order PS5 Pro
How to preorder:
Step 1: Find an organ you don't need
Re: Days Gone Director Roasts 'Small Game' Astro Bot PS5 for Deacon St John Cameo
Huuuh. I do sometimes wonder if this is the attitude towards smaller games across Sony in general.
Re: Soapbox: Astro Bot PS5 Is Not a Graveyard, It's a Joyful Demonstration of Sony's Unique Ability to Reinvent Itself
@GamingFan4Lyf Astal Chain, Ring Fit Adventure, Sushi Striker and Ever Oasis are all newer IP than ARMS, and they have been on a tear of reviving decades old IP like F-Zero, Another Code, Advance Wars, Famicom Detective Club and Endless Ocean just because they seemingly felt like it.
So there's really no excuse to keep pushing forward with new IP and not also reinvent and evolve the older ones.
Re: How Long Does It Take to Find a Match in Concord on PS5, PC?
@Cambrius If I was a Fairgame$ developer I'd be flashing my CV at any opportunity.
Sony bought Haven for that game that so far looks like generic Payday, which is eerily reminiscent of Firewall here: no games, live service title, seems generic as hell.
Plus with Jade Raymond at the helm, who hasn't released a game in over a decade, is ex Unisoft and Google Stadia...yeah I'd probably be job hunting.
Re: Fill the Advance Wars-Shaped Hole in Your Heart with Warside on PS5, PS4
@Ralizah I think Tactics games went the way of the platformer for a bit there.
Re: Fill the Advance Wars-Shaped Hole in Your Heart with Warside on PS5, PS4
@Ralizah Nintendo isn't doing much with the IP? They released remakes last year.
Re: Fill the Advance Wars-Shaped Hole in Your Heart with Warside on PS5, PS4
The disparity in site comments is wild.
The Nintendo site: Well Nintendo isn't doing anything with Advance Wars. Hope this will be a better game than what they make.
The Playstation site: Jesus Christ that might actually be a complete rip off.
Re: Rumour: PS5 Pro Design Seemingly Leaked
I can't tell what's funnier.
Giving the PS4 Pro an extra layer of cake and overclocking the already god awful CPU, pairing it with a beefier GPU and sticking a larger heatsink inside to cool it and call it a day while the thing achieves flight.
Or giving the already increasingly expensive PS5 some Go Faster Stripes and charging an extra $100 or more.
Re: Do You Want Astro Bot on PC? Creative Director Wants to Know
I would, mostly so I don't need to plug my PS5 in after I redecorate. Especially since my PC is just as capable and in a more convenient setup now.
Re: Floatopia Could Surpass Animal Crossing on PS5
I mean yeah, Nintendo ceased development on New Horizons.
It was delayed into COVID, and the same team that makes that then went on to Splatoon 3, who are now probably making the next Animal Crossing.
So its like....yeah, cut support for the game short was probably the best option.
Re: Castlevania Sinks Teeth Into August Dead By Daylight Collaboration
I love that this game, in a Castlevania crossover, in Dracula's bio, references the Battle of 1999 that we still haven't got.
Like good lord Konami it's been 20 years of teasing it, just make the damn thing
Re: PS5 Sales Reach 60 Million Milestone, Now at 61.7 Million Consoles Sold
PS5 sells 2.4m in a quarter in its 4th year, down year on year, behind it's predecessor at the same time "strong sales".
Switch sells 2.1m in a quarter in its 8th year at full price, down year on year "poor sales and demand has slowed".
Weird world we live in.
And then there's Xbox.
Poor, poor Xbox. Down 40% one year then another 30% the following year. Imagine going from 1m a quarter to 600k, then down to 420k a quarter. Yikes
Re: Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth PS5 Sales Still a Secret as Square Enix Reports Year-on-Year Decline
"Even if Rebirth had turned out to be a sales titan, Square Enix still wouldn't have expected it to make up the difference months after its release."
What company are you paying attention to? These are the maniacs who have the view 20m or bust.
Re: Wear Chocobos and Moogles on Your Sleeve with Life Is Strange: Double Exposure's Final Fantasy 7-Themed DLC
Ah yes. Moogles and Chocobos from the hit game FF7. It's like people thinking Persona started at 4.
Re: Subscribe to EA Play for Less Than a Dollar on PS5, PS4
Why is Andrew Wilson getting progressively younger and more and more like the famed Matrick Patrick of GameTheory?
Or is the AI assimilating him?
E A I. It's got your soul.
Re: Don't Expect Any More Awesome Olympics Games from SEGA on PS5, PS4
God knows why they opted for not only moving away from two very profitable brands, with exclusives games on the most popular current system, and other licensed titles everywhere else, in favour of a mobile game also ported to PC and NFTs.
Oh right. Cheaper.
Re: Could PSP Spin-Off Secret Agent Clank Be Coming to PS5, PS4 via PS Plus Premium?
@get2sammyb Yeah, they redid loads of assets too, but mainly made enemy bolt drops much more valuable (I.e. usable).
Re: Could PSP Spin-Off Secret Agent Clank Be Coming to PS5, PS4 via PS Plus Premium?
If it is, we would greatly prefer the PS2 version, which apart from the better controls the PSP couldnt manage, they actually rebalanced a few things in the game, including how many bolts you earn. So you go from perpetual poor, to actually buying stuff.
Also, good luck with the Platinum trophy. If you thought buying the RYNO at the bolt cap and doing at least two NG+ runs of Size Matters was bad, this game has invisible well hidden codes to find in NG+, and three super hidden keycards the game never mentions that unlocks an item that you can use only via a cheat code.
And you KNOW theyll include that in the trophies.
Re: What's Next for PS5 Smash Hit Action RPG Zenless Zone Zero?
I tried seeing what this one was about since these guys seem to churn these games out at the rate of a chinese sweatshop making clothes, so I checked out the trending hashtag on Not-Twitter.
First 8 posts were porn.
So I can only assume whats next for the game is more scantily clad women with massive Honkais....I mean honkers, and blokes with throbbing Star Rails.
Try the veal. (But seriously thats ALL I ever hear or see of these games. Porn and pulls. Sounds like a website in of itself.)
Re: Random: PS3 Last Seventh Generation Console Standing with Functional Storefront
The Wii U store died in 2019? That's news to me. Though they probably would have liked to lmao.
Fairly sure (though can't say I really care) it died last year alongside the 3DS store. Or the online. One of em went last year.
Re: Astro Bot PS5 Controller Announced, Pre-Orders Start 9th August
Id love for the eyes to be LEDs in the touchpad.
Then again, I wouldn't love more pointless lights draining the battery further.
Re: Randy Pitchford Says Fans Will Be 'Very, Very Happy' with Next Borderlands Game
Will we be as happy as Mr Pitchfork at a Medieval Times?
Re: Deals: Sony Goes for the Jugular with Humongous PS5, PSVR2 Discounts in USA
"as it looks to build on the brand’s momentum moving into the holidays"
It's bloody July.
Re: Dragon Quest Creator Says Silent Protagonists Look Like Idiots
I don'tind silent protagonists.
Only due to the alternative being the modern gaming alternative of PLEASE SHUT THE HELL UP, and constantly waffling while slowing movement to a crawl.
Re: PS5 RPG Honkai: Star Rail Is Sponsoring the Paris Olympics in USA
Trying to get Waifu Bait into the Olympics. Bold strategy cotton, let's see if there's any audience crossover....nope, nope, you've just confused the middle aged white women
Re: Capcom Endures Some Truly Incredible Monster Hunter Wilds Investor Questions
@ChrisDeku That depends how you measure that success.
Here we have Rise just shy of 15m on one platform, then on PC a year later, then other consoles long after that. World has been on sale for twice as long, across three platforms since the start, and hit 25m.
So in raw numbers, yes World was a bigger success. But if you say "sales were non existent on Xbox and PS4" then surely Rise as a set of staggered releases over half the time selling over half as much mainly from only two platforms is a greater success?
Re: Boba, Bare Feet, and Bins Headline Honkai: Star Rail's Big PS5 Update
Those sure were a lot of words I don't understand.
All I know is those characters have some massive Honkais. I mean honkers. That's all I get when I see the name.
Same with Nongshim Impact. I mean Gangnam Impact....damn kids these days.
And the latest in the....anime cinematic universe has the hashtag of zzz which... Yeah I do need sleep.
And what about that Wuthering Heights? Is that the same people or is this the new gaming trend along with brown samurai action games?
Re: Doubt Cast Over PS5 Pro Actually Releasing This Year
Nintendo announced Switch revisions in late July/August for September/October.
Probably because it's not actually that big a deal. It's the thing to do nowadays.
Re: PS5 Simply Can't Match the Pace of 2023 in Europe
It's damning that the Xbox Series is declining slower than the now 7.5 year old full price Nintendo Switch.
With two SKUs, one at times cheaper than the Switch.
And yeah, it's percentage of sales decline, but let's be real, the Xbox Series wasn't exactly outpacing the Switch in units last year you'd figure.
Re: Ratchet & Clank: Size Matters Says It's All About How You Use It with PS5, PS4 Platinum
"Collect all the weapons"
And there goes that Platinum trophy, because the bolt economy in the game sucks and the last weapon costs the bolt cap.
Yes. The cap for how much money you can have. In a game that barely gives you any.
Re: Bite-Sized Ratchet & Clank Will Prove Size Matters on PS5, PS4
Watch one of the trophies be "Buy the R.Y.N.O"
If you know, you know.
Re: Talking Point: Was Sony Right to Resist Adding PS5 Exclusives to PS Plus Day One?
It certainly is baffling, but this is the problem with subscriptions, you hit that wall and all you can do is extract more money.
Same with games. Only so many people you can sell to before you have to start getting money elsewhere.
And actually, there is one subscription that didnt go up in price (Yet!): NSO. All they did was add another tier. The base tier is still getting new games and a new system last year, nothing has been removed apart from Pac-Man 99 so Bandai could try their own version that bombed, and the price remains $20 a year.
Will the price go up? Yes. But the fact it hasn't yet is......baffling.