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@David187 He did also mention the speaker and light bar yes but as I mentioned those features are replicatable to certain extents. Touch pad isn't.

Plus not many games use the touch pad so I expressed my surprise.

@themcnoisy A game used the touch pad? Ok wow

In what way is Astro Bot only usable on a DS4? Most controllers have the same button count, trigger style and gyro/accelerometer and the light bar should it be used for anything could be replicated via IR (poorly) or any of the VR motion trackers.

This idea will never come to pass though. Sony isn't Microsoft, and Sony's stance has been repeated over and over: we want to be the only show in town. Just ask Jim Ryan, he said the very same of their EU market share.

And sure, Sony has said they want competition for VR. Gets more people in and more games means more money and so the cycle continues. But to take what makes your VR headset, apart from price, the most compelling, isn't a good idea.

And even if we ignore all the "Never gonna happen because business" stuff, for God's sake it's Sony! The mere notion of their games played natively on other hardware has the Vita spinning in its grave. The mere notion of anything cooperative with other Platforms had them making an excuse a minute.

Should this one day come to pass I'll be checking the Mercury down in Hades because woo boy.

And as with all other DBZ games the DLC will round the roster out to a nice 60% minimum Goku.

This guy clearly has some free time to practice. Good on him.

@Flaming_Kaiser @Ralizah To be fair, my PS4 Pro is an exclusives box.

@Link41 67% of retail sales on Switch apparently.

Likely down to the weird marketing. The PS4 version was shown at E3 and in various Japanese demo streams. That was it, and there it was treated like the only release.

The Switch release is published by Nintendo, has been shouted about for months now.

What friends? I'm wearing a PlayStation shirt.

A brutal economy huh?

Well we all know how Activision would like to fix that...

Bit concerned there are rewards for only the top 5% of players. No word of they'll be available later

Buy Retro Studios, pull another Microsoft on Nintendo ;p

@deepspace5d The games I listed arent exclusive because they are published by the console manufacturer.

Because they arent.

Golf Story - Published by Sidebar Games
Octopath Traveler - Published by Square Enix
Cuphead - Published by Studio MDHR
SMTV - Published by Atlus

Yet they are exclusives.

And yes, Octopath WAS published in some regions by Nintendo. But so was Skyrim, and DOOM, and Dragon Quest 11/Builders and Dark Souls.

@FullbringIchigo Yeah, 91.5m PS4s.

But how many PS5s?

Here's the thing. You can't say "PS5 WILL succeed because of what we did with PS4, and therefore people will put the games on regardless, while we intentionally alienate them"

That to me says, yeah they'll do it, because we feel they have no choice. Thats not a healthy attitude.

And what if the PS5, lets say for hypotheticals, does stumble out the gate akin to PS3, but pick up in the end? Will people be putting games on that over a higher selling competitor, "Just because"?

Remember even now there are games not coming to PS4, @deepspace5d, and those weren't paid for by other platform holders. Golf Story, Switch only. Fully independent. Octopath Traveler, isn't coming to PS4, despite being Square Enix. Cuphead isn't coming to PS4, despite Microsoft's platform-agnostics. SMTV isn't coming, despite being made by Atlus, Sony's best friend.

See the trend? Money doesn't dictate it, and if PS5 does hypothetically fall, this attitude will bite them.

I'd rather see a company welcome all developers, and offer a broad range of content, over saying b******s to you, you'll put it on here anyway.

Said Nintendo in 2013.

And Xbox in 2013.

And Sony in 2006.

I sense a trend, in that it's not a given. You'd think Steam is too big to ignore for PC distribution, based on sheer market share and name value. Look how thats going. Money talks.

@MattSilverado Screenshots werent boding well for me in the CVD area sadly. I'll try it at that price, but dont wxpect me to be able to play it...

"People enjoy surprises"

Lets all mail a gift box full of turds to EA. People like surprises.

That PS4 bundle sounds like a good introduction to the PS4.

And one third is an introduction to the PS3 ;P

Still, I will probably pick HZD at that price. Here's hoping the lack of CVD modes doesn't screw me over as much as watching footage did.

@Circasurviver Panzer Dragoon maybe. Trials of Mana remake is. Contra Rogue Corps and the Collection.

Or

He means PS4 and PS4 Pro.

OR

He means the obvious that it will be on PS5 because of backwards compatability.

It would be cool and would get their smaller titles more showtime.

Buuuuuut

We already have EA Access. Game Pass. Game Pass Ultimate if you want XBL in it too. UPlay +, Origin Premium, Stadia, Orion....and some of THESE are subscriptions you have WITHIN other subscriptions like UPlay on Stadia.

So if Sony did it...well then we would be a little hung up. That'd be PS+, PSNow, and this service, all for one system. Then add on wanting Ubisoft games on PC, Xbox, EA, so on so forth....it becomes the TV market.

In that case, we have so many subscription services now, with content being spread so much between them, that it's honestly probably cheaper to go BACK to cable.

But that's what happened. TV started as a handful of channels. It then ballooned and shot up in price. Then streaming came with one or two services. TV was declared dead, but now THAT has ballooned and it's no different now. It's a cycle.

Games subscriptions started as just one. Then its two, then five, and now this. And when the next way to get our games comes, it'll be just a few, then loads, and so on so forth.

There will come a point where it's easier to just buy what you want instead of renting it via subs, because yeah, you'd be paying $300 a year for Ubisoft's service, but that's just one. You're not gonna play all those games, but to play all the games you DO want, you'll be hitting every sub just to do it, and then at what point is it cheaper to just buy em permanently?

@FullbringIchigo Well, its what, £280 for a Switch? Couple of months easy.

But damn, that little thing is stacked now. Its scary.

@FullbringIchigo Buy a Switch, get the collection, then enjoy!

@FullbringIchigo Yep. Switch exclusive. Out now. Enjoy!

End E3 on a high note I suppose.

SquareEnix was the only one going HAM on Switch, so the presentation, for once, wasnt a load of known quantities this time. A third party found balance between fleshing out their last year of PS4 support, and realising another system is very much current and at peak. It provided a good balance.

Where the other shows failed was to focus on the power twins exclusively and...well we knew what we were getting as a result.

Holy hell roll on Tuesday. Again, it's like if the consoles are transitioning, no one should bother.

When your next system is looming, do what Nintendo did in 2016, or Sony this year. Dont drag out the known quantities and whats left for your system. Just highlight it, be smaller, dont end up repeating yourself.

2019 really is going to be Nintendo's year, if only because all the truly new stuff is there and can be shown. All the other new stuff isnt until 2020 for the other two.

I'm having that day off and Pokemon will be beat within a week.

That weekend is DOOM time.

It's a repeat of the 2013 situation, the two boxes will be damn near identical, the war is won on price and that initial presentation.

Roll on Tuesday I suppose...

That was fine. Very little gameplay and Scarlett seems identical to PS5.

Guess its on Nintendo to deliver good gameplay showings this year.

Again.

14 years of FIFA aint bad. On par with PS2.

Lol at the one Legacy Edition though. Minimal effort.

Ah yes, all the other major publishers. All of them. No Devolver Digital love?

I can see a lot of this happening. Granted, most of it we can tell by the clock being broken.

I could pay full price or the sub...but its still streamed.

Sure you can argue the demographic they want to hit is those without consoles or a PC but...if they lack those they probably also lack a decent internet connection

As weird as it sounds I think what keeps people playing is the bugs.

Like yeah its a solid RPG beneath it all, but the bugs are so varied and hilarious people play just to find them.

Then you have the modders taking a very malleable game and code, fixing it, running with the bugs...it has legs based on leaving the door open.

I remember a previous Jumanji that was just crappy Mario Party.

So it went from before CoD and around the time of Astral Chain...to after CoD, FIFA and if history says anything, the same time as Pokemon.

Can't fault em for being brave but that's a crowded space right there. As long as the game is good though, all is well and it eill stand on its own.

@m42orca Because its not only available on irrelevant console hardware?

I mean, if it was a PS4 exclusive lets say, would that mean when the PS4 fades and if hypothetically the PS5 wasn't backwards compatible, that it would be "Irrelevant"?

Relevance as a metric is not just unit sales my friend. It is also mindshare, media presence, and more.

@Sanquine My comment was that it wouldn't be able to run the game.

You wont see this on Switch for reasons other than being Sony funded

But still, since Sony has been so on and off with their marketing, it's hard to tell. Everthing could be timed exclusive these days...

Ah yes. Nintendo characters such as Mega Man, Sonic, and presumably soon Snake and Cloud.

@Useyourname and Nintendo only had that affair because a relationship with Sony would be like an arranged marriage they'd have to pay royalties to release stuff on their own system.

Super raunchy (>~<)

Interesting how EA, Microsoft and Sony all use the familiar Switch marketing slogan when discussing cloud gaming.

Also, boy the popcorn gonna be good.

But good on Sony for seeing Azure could be beneficial. Microsoft has server space and tech assets far beyond what Sony has. If they want to be truly competitive and offer cloud gaming that....well works nigh on flawlessly in the future years where infrastructure likely still wont be improved, they need all the assets they can get.

Here's hoping live service fatigue is coming hard and fast. Folk only have so much tjme and each company wants multiple live services PER SERIES.

@SmokeBombClock Not exactly my idea, its more just saying they could do what Nintendo did with theirs. Granted thats an exclusive to Online game thats Online only, and online play added to retro titles, but the principle is the same

I think an indie plus big game a month would be a good value.

Here we have two indie games...one of which is more story than game and the other is largely multiplayer focused...local miltiplayer at that.

So for a month of PS+ it doesnt incentivise online use all that much and doesnt have the greatest appeal.

As such, it wont be a good month to encourage resubs or newcomers as...well its not hard to see how this can very easily not appeal to someone.

Nintendo hasnt said when their show is, nor has Ubisoft I believe. Or Limited Run or Devolver Digital, theyve only said they exist.

Flogged harder than a bad boy in a dark room.

Or David Dickinson.

I haven't, and most likely won't, play it. After seeing gameplay footage, I realised someone was fighting an enemy...that I couldn't see because it blended with the background, and no one I have asked has revealed a colour blind mode exists, much like with Horizon Zero Dawn.

Yet another PS exclusive I want to play, but can't. Unless I swing my arms in a blind rage, but that's what God of War used to be.

No one knows what Dragon Age 4 will be yet?

Sounds like Anthem development, but I'm sure 18 months before launch itll all come together.

Four years in I just cant bring myself to care anymore, and when theh finally showed the damn thing last year it was....walking.

This man having a leash was the best thjng that could happen to him. Shame the leash snapped and now he's free.