Stupid PSP. I can appreciate the reasons that games finally getting localized in the west still come out on PSP at this point, but more than a year after the launch of the Vita and a PSP game is the highest selling game in Japan. That's pure crazy.
I can dig it. The vita titles will certainly be cheaper than the blu ray so buying them separately is no big deal. I'll start with X on vita and pick up X2 later.
I likely won't be using it at all. But that's just because I can't think of anyone who would be interested in looking at my gameplay videos. I think it will be useful though because there will likely be many more gameplay videos online for when I want to see what a game is like.
Pinball Arcade also needs to update their UI. It's slow loading and unnattractive and the leaderboards are tucked away. Once I finally get to the tables, it's a fine experience. Still not as fun as Zen for me. Something about the physics and gameplay (camera, glitches) that just isn't as good. But I think making the menus nicer and quicker would go a long way.
I really wanted to buy this game but intentionally held off when I heard there was a Vita version in the works. It really seemed to me that Vita would be perfect for this game, and I'm glad it happened so fast.
I want to try this on my Vita, but I've always been much more comfortable with a subscription model. Everyone is on the same playing field, you have access to everything if you work hard enough, and it gives the game a little more meaning somehow.
The 2 models should be the same price since you have to pay extra to take advantage of the 3G's few extra perks anyway. IMO Near should be capable of impressing w/o 3G. I still think streetpass wins that battle.
I like it when companies support their old games. But unfortunately I have no need to play this game online. Now, what I would pay Ubisoft 5 dollars for is a patch that makes Might & Magic: Clash of Heroes remote playable on the vita...
I will definitely be getting the Vita version, especially if it seems to have turned out as well as people to expect it to. I won't necessarily buy a PS4 for Killzone 4, but I'll be getting one eventually. At that point I would definitely buy the multiplayer separately, so I hope they sell it separately again.
This update completely blew me away. Never did I expect Disgaea 3 to be free, especially so soon. And the cave and Tekken 6 as well. Just incredible quality and a wide range of genres as well.
I wish every studio would do this instead of confidently acting like there isn't a big enough demand for a game. At least give fans the real chance to prove you wrong. I think Nintendo is a huge culprit of this. Watch what happens if they put a new Earthbound on Kickstarter.
@nathunuc1988 I can understand why they have to walk a fine line and try not to offend Gamestop or Best Buy by selling their digital titles cheaper, but I can't figure out why they don't try to be more competitive with renting movies. Why on earth would they worry about offending or competing with redbox?
Even if I did know most of my PS friends, I don't see much reason to watch their gameplay. I wouldn't pay an extra cent for that feature specifically. The only thing I can think of right now that would convince me to pay more for PS+ than I already do is if it unlocked better sales and giveaways, or if it unlocked streaming to the Vita.
The biggest disappointment of the Vita Lumines has to be the lack of online multiplayer. I love the gameplay and the music but clearly it should have had online multiplayer. — For some reason the same can be said for a lot of Vita games. Pure Chess, Modnation. What's the deal?
@rjejr My wife and I were ridiculously addicted to Clash of Heroes multiplayer. For a while there we even tried to stay in the top 25 of the leaderboard. The only problem is they didn't plan well enough against rage quitting. People can quit several turns into the game and not be penalized. I really want them to release a version for the Vita.
I don't foresee much success here at all. I'm not saying it won't be a nice machine or the games won't be good. I just don't see success. Maybe I'll be proven horribly wrong. They're mainly trying to be attractive to the indie developer and the hacker/modder. I just don't see how that adds up to big success for a home console. Also, isn't encouraging hacking a bad idea for multiplayer games?
I won't be making much use of the video feeds or webcasting or anything, but it's a cool feature. And good catch on that trophy graph. I love playing statistics. I love Nintendo's statistics like how many hours you've played a game. Hopefully we get some of that kind of stuff on PS4. And give us a dang wishlist on the store.
I hope online is still free for everyone too. But potentially they could make it the bronze tier of PS+. The bronze tier of PS+ could be just the cloud saves and automatic updates and online gaming. It could be cheaper than PS+ is now, something like $15 a year. The silver tier could basically be what we have become accustomed to with PS+. And the gold tier could be what adds on the access to a library of games to stream (select ps1-ps3 titles)
I don't know if I would pay more than I do now for the gold tier or not. I'd rather pay a few dollars each time I wanted to rent a game. I don't really want to pay an extra monthly fee like netflix for old games because I have most of the ps3 games I want already and I'll mostly be playing new stuff by then. I wouldn't get my money's worth paying a fee. However, if they simply roll the service into the current price, I think they would attract a lot of new subscribers.
I bought this one when it went on sale. It really is a very great game, and the Vita version is probably the best. Tilting to collect all of the sun is a nice touch. And there's a platinum.
Has anyone bought Smart As? I'm tempted to get that one on sale.
I also still cannot think of a good reason to have a touchpad on the dual shock. I can think of practical uses for a touchpad on a screen like the Vita or an Ipad or the Wii U controller, but I can't for the life of me think of any good gameplay reasons to have a touchpad on a normal controller. I really can't think of anything.
I'm a different breed, but a couple of my favorites are Mutant Blobs and Motorstorm RC. And I really liked Zero Escape: Virtue's Last Reward as well. To be fair, I still have yet to play Persona 4, and I'm sure I'd love it.
@Alpha I think you are absolutely correct about emulation. The slow rollout of ps1 classics and psp games for Vita isn't about difficulty of programming as much as it is making sure there aren't any hacking exploits in them I believe.
@Knux That's kind of how I feel about waiting, but I will probably go ahead and buy one if they start giving away good free games through ps+. But dang I just want to hear them say that they are making remote play compatibility a requirement with new games. If it isn't policy then support will suffer.
Even though this was for the most part expected, it's still the biggest disappointment for me. The problem isn't even that I can't transfer all my games, it's just that somewhere in the back of my head I was holding out hope that the ps4 would somehow unlock remote play for my exisiting psn games. I thought there was a chance I'd finally get to play might & magic or critter crunch on the Vita.
I also agree that Dave Perry made it sound like the backwards compatibilty streaming was simply in an idea phase, so that's a bummer. Once I'd like to see their grand ideas be something they actually implement at launch.
And I still think all would be forgiven if they would simply make all ps4 content remote playable, but Jack Tretton said their goal is "most" ps4 games and "long-term" plans.
I think I am going to give up on any expectations for backwards compatibility streaming.
I really wanted to remote play my beloved PSN titles from the PS3, but that didn't happen at all. Then I would have settled for the future, just make all future titles on PS4 remote playable, but now I'm not even sure about that.
In the presentation they say they are “unlocking remote play” and the Vita "will be capable" of remote play with PS4 games. Then he proceeds to say the long term goal is streaming ps1, ps2, and ps3 games as well. I hope that's the case, but more than likely they will roll out games for the service with the same frequency as ps1 classics for vita.
And now Jack Tretton writes on the PSblog: “it’s our long-term vision to make most PS4 games playable on PS Vita”
I hate the sound of that quote, and this is really shaping up to be another empty promise in my mind. They seriously need to be very specific and honest about what will and won’t happen with Remote Play this time.
I also need to know what they're going to do with Playstation Plus. My subscription goes well into 2015 I think so if they start giving away PS4 games I can't even play that'd be a pretty good reason to upgrade as well.
@Belmont
Exactly. I thought they were very unclear about remote play too. They said they are unlocking remote play, and that the ps4 can remote play games to the Vita. But I don't think he said every ps4 game will remote play to the Vita. And he sure as heck didn't say all of your digital ps3 games will remote play to the Vita. That would be the real selling point for me at launch.
If they botch remote play again and selectively choose what will and won't remote play and pretend to roll out ps3 games for remote play but stop after the first bunch and stop talking about it — then I'll be very comfortable waiting a year or 2 to upgrade to ps4. I'm not going to preorder, I'm just going to wait and see after launch if they held their promises.
I Wish David Perry would have come right out and said every PS4 and eventually PS3 game will be remote playable on the Vita. He said they are going to unlock it with Gaikai tech with the PS4 as the server and the Vita as the client, but he didn't come right out and say every PS4 game will be remote playable. And he was very vague about ps3 games if I recall. I won't be in any hurry to get a PS4 unless the remote play of my big digital ps3 catalog is universal instead of some sort of slow rollout.
1)Unlocking remote play to the Vita 2)Automatic streaming demos for everything 3)Start playing games the second you purchase them 4)the interesting sounding customization features in the store for the types of games you like 5)Watching the streams of your friends gameplay, as well as taking over the controls for them. That's pretty crazy.
those have to be the highlights for me. I also like the sound of their ambition to add the full catalog of ps1, ps2, and ps3 games to streaming eventually, but obviously that has to be the biggest candidate for empty promise like when they said the Vita would have remote play with the ps3.
If I'm honest with myself, I'm actually much more interested in what my Vita will be able to do. I say this because what I really want to hear is how the PS4 is going to make owning a Vita better. Talk to me about remote play and cross-controller, Sony! And do please show off some games.
Also, what do you think the odds are they simply roll their streaming technology into PS+?
I have Netflix and hulu plus as a replacement for cable. I actually enjoy those relatively cheap subscription models. I think I would prefer renting games individually however, instead of adding another monthly bill, unless the catalog is vast and the service is cheap, or if they simply include it with PS+.
Maybe the ps4 could recognize which ps3 disc you put into it, even if it can't play it. I don't know if that's possible but it would be the way to prove you own it every time you want to stream it.
Backwards compatibility = not that big a deal. Renting games on your console? = genius.
I'd love to see some ps3 streaming to the vita now through the more powerful ps4. And do you think they somehow plan to identify what ps3 games you own or something like that? Maybe you could only stream the ones you bought digitally?
These statements are making Microsoft seem a little desperate moving forward. As far as I'm concerned the only thing I'm missing by not having an Xbox is Halo, the occasional indie game exclusive, ESPN, and HBO Go. The pros of choosing the PS3 (PS+, free online, NFL Sunday Ticket, better exclusives, blu ray) really put the xbox to shame in my opinion.
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Re: Japanese Sales Charts: PlayStation Vita Sinks Back into Second
Stupid PSP. I can appreciate the reasons that games finally getting localized in the west still come out on PSP at this point, but more than a year after the launch of the Vita and a PSP game is the highest selling game in Japan. That's pure crazy.
Re: Store Update: 19th March 2013 (North America)
Too bad they didn't make the vita DoA an ultimate edition including the DLC.
Re: Rumour: Final Fantasy X-2 HD Is Also Coming to PlayStation 3 and Vita
I can dig it. The vita titles will certainly be cheaper than the blu ray so buying them separately is no big deal. I'll start with X on vita and pick up X2 later.
Re: Talking Point: Will You Use the PlayStation 4's Video Sharing Features?
I likely won't be using it at all. But that's just because I can't think of anyone who would be interested in looking at my gameplay videos. I think it will be useful though because there will likely be many more gameplay videos online for when I want to see what a game is like.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue Two
I'm still working on Ni no Kuni myself. And finishing up the platinum for Zero Escape. And I may even start Corpse Party: Book of Shadows.
Re: The Pinball Arcade Racking Up Points on PlayStation 4
Pinball Arcade also needs to update their UI. It's slow loading and unnattractive and the leaderboards are tucked away. Once I finally get to the tables, it's a fine experience. Still not as fun as Zen for me. Something about the physics and gameplay (camera, glitches) that just isn't as good. But I think making the menus nicer and quicker would go a long way.
Re: Machinarium Puzzles PlayStation Vita Later This Month
I really wanted to buy this game but intentionally held off when I heard there was a Vita version in the works. It really seemed to me that Vita would be perfect for this game, and I'm glad it happened so fast.
Re: Phantasy Star Online 2's Download Numbers Rocket on Vita
I want to try this on my Vita, but I've always been much more comfortable with a subscription model. Everyone is on the same playing field, you have access to everything if you work hard enough, and it gives the game a little more meaning somehow.
Re: Sound Shapes DLC Honks Its Horn to the Beat
@divinelite I like the sound of that...
Re: Is Sony Discontinuing the 3G PlayStation Vita?
The 2 models should be the same price since you have to pay extra to take advantage of the 3G's few extra perks anyway. IMO Near should be capable of impressing w/o 3G. I still think streetpass wins that battle.
Re: Scott Pilgrim vs. The World Wins the Award for Most Overdue DLC Ever
I like it when companies support their old games. But unfortunately I have no need to play this game online. Now, what I would pay Ubisoft 5 dollars for is a patch that makes Might & Magic: Clash of Heroes remote playable on the vita...
Re: Talking Point: Is Sony Putting Too Much Faith in the Killzone Franchise?
I will definitely be getting the Vita version, especially if it seems to have turned out as well as people to expect it to. I won't necessarily buy a PS4 for Killzone 4, but I'll be getting one eventually. At that point I would definitely buy the multiplayer separately, so I hope they sell it separately again.
Re: Minecraft Could Be Building a New Home on PlayStation
I think Vita would be a very good fit.
Re: Spec Ops: The Line Steps into the Fray on North American PlayStation Plus
This update completely blew me away. Never did I expect Disgaea 3 to be free, especially so soon. And the cave and Tekken 6 as well. Just incredible quality and a wide range of genres as well.
Re: PlayStation Vita Sales Quadruple in Japan Post Price Cut
Haha, @Charles. Come to think of it, I've never seen anyone else with one either.
Re: How Much Would You Pay to Play Shenmue 3?
I wish every studio would do this instead of confidently acting like there isn't a big enough demand for a game. At least give fans the real chance to prove you wrong. I think Nintendo is a huge culprit of this. Watch what happens if they put a new Earthbound on Kickstarter.
Re: You'll Be Able to Download 100GB Movies to Your PlayStation 4
@nathunuc1988 I can understand why they have to walk a fine line and try not to offend Gamestop or Best Buy by selling their digital titles cheaper, but I can't figure out why they don't try to be more competitive with renting movies. Why on earth would they worry about offending or competing with redbox?
Re: PlayStation Plus Will Play a 'Prominent Role' on PlayStation 4
Even if I did know most of my PS friends, I don't see much reason to watch their gameplay. I wouldn't pay an extra cent for that feature specifically. The only thing I can think of right now that would convince me to pay more for PS+ than I already do is if it unlocked better sales and giveaways, or if it unlocked streaming to the Vita.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue One
The biggest disappointment of the Vita Lumines has to be the lack of online multiplayer. I love the gameplay and the music but clearly it should have had online multiplayer. — For some reason the same can be said for a lot of Vita games. Pure Chess, Modnation. What's the deal?
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue One
@rjejr My wife and I were ridiculously addicted to Clash of Heroes multiplayer. For a while there we even tried to stay in the top 25 of the leaderboard. The only problem is they didn't plan well enough against rage quitting. People can quit several turns into the game and not be penalized. I really want them to release a version for the Vita.
On topic, I'm still playing Ni no Kuni of course!
Re: Game of the Month: February 2013 - Ni No Kuni: Wrath of the White Witch
I want this game to make so much money. I want Studio Ghibli to be well rewarded for this decision.
Re: Kellee Santiago Backs Ouya, Takes Developer Relations Role
I don't foresee much success here at all. I'm not saying it won't be a nice machine or the games won't be good. I just don't see success. Maybe I'll be proven horribly wrong. They're mainly trying to be attractive to the indie developer and the hacker/modder. I just don't see how that adds up to big success for a home console. Also, isn't encouraging hacking a bad idea for multiplayer games?
Re: Feature: Analysing the Features and Functionality of PlayStation 4's User Interface
I won't be making much use of the video feeds or webcasting or anything, but it's a cool feature. And good catch on that trophy graph. I love playing statistics. I love Nintendo's statistics like how many hours you've played a game. Hopefully we get some of that kind of stuff on PS4. And give us a dang wishlist on the store.
Re: Feature: Analysing the Features and Functionality of PlayStation 4's User Interface
They need to make certain to add privacy options such as "only friends can view my full name"
Re: Feature: Five Forgotten First-Party Franchises That Should Be Resurrected for PS4
Medievil would be a great idea
Re: God of War HD Ascends European Instant Game Collection
EU!!
Re: Yes, You'll Be Able to Download Every PS4 Game
I hope online is still free for everyone too. But potentially they could make it the bronze tier of PS+. The bronze tier of PS+ could be just the cloud saves and automatic updates and online gaming. It could be cheaper than PS+ is now, something like $15 a year. The silver tier could basically be what we have become accustomed to with PS+. And the gold tier could be what adds on the access to a library of games to stream (select ps1-ps3 titles)
I don't know if I would pay more than I do now for the gold tier or not. I'd rather pay a few dollars each time I wanted to rent a game. I don't really want to pay an extra monthly fee like netflix for old games because I have most of the ps3 games I want already and I'll mostly be playing new stuff by then. I wouldn't get my money's worth paying a fee. However, if they simply roll the service into the current price, I think they would attract a lot of new subscribers.
Re: Sony Forfeiting Free Post Release Soul Sacrifice DLC
I'm rootin for this game.
Re: Plants vs. Zombies Commences Battle on PS Plus This Week
I bought this one when it went on sale. It really is a very great game, and the Vita version is probably the best. Tilting to collect all of the sun is a nice touch. And there's a platinum.
Has anyone bought Smart As? I'm tempted to get that one on sale.
Re: Feature: Sony's PlayStation 4 Reveal - Did It Meet Our Expectations?
I also still cannot think of a good reason to have a touchpad on the dual shock. I can think of practical uses for a touchpad on a screen like the Vita or an Ipad or the Wii U controller, but I can't for the life of me think of any good gameplay reasons to have a touchpad on a normal controller. I really can't think of anything.
Re: Feature: PlayStation Vita Is One Year Old, Here Are Five Games You Must Play
I'm a different breed, but a couple of my favorites are Mutant Blobs and Motorstorm RC. And I really liked Zero Escape: Virtue's Last Reward as well. To be fair, I still have yet to play Persona 4, and I'm sure I'd love it.
Re: New Final Fantasy Title to Be Revealed at E3 2013
I just realized that I think it would be great if they announced that FFXIV was coming to PS4 as well.
Re: Your PlayStation Network Games Won't Work on PlayStation 4
@Alpha I think you are absolutely correct about emulation. The slow rollout of ps1 classics and psp games for Vita isn't about difficulty of programming as much as it is making sure there aren't any hacking exploits in them I believe.
Re: Your PlayStation Network Games Won't Work on PlayStation 4
@Knux That's kind of how I feel about waiting, but I will probably go ahead and buy one if they start giving away good free games through ps+. But dang I just want to hear them say that they are making remote play compatibility a requirement with new games. If it isn't policy then support will suffer.
Re: Your PlayStation Network Games Won't Work on PlayStation 4
Even though this was for the most part expected, it's still the biggest disappointment for me. The problem isn't even that I can't transfer all my games, it's just that somewhere in the back of my head I was holding out hope that the ps4 would somehow unlock remote play for my exisiting psn games. I thought there was a chance I'd finally get to play might & magic or critter crunch on the Vita.
I also agree that Dave Perry made it sound like the backwards compatibilty streaming was simply in an idea phase, so that's a bummer. Once I'd like to see their grand ideas be something they actually implement at launch.
And I still think all would be forgiven if they would simply make all ps4 content remote playable, but Jack Tretton said their goal is "most" ps4 games and "long-term" plans.
Re: Sony Officially Reveals the PlayStation 4, Launching Holiday 2013
I hate that Jack Tretton just wrote on the PSblog:
“it’s our long-term vision to make most PS4 games playable on PS Vita”
their vision isn't all ps4 games, and it's a "long-term" vision at that.
Re: Gaikai's Extensive PS4 Role Comes to Light
I think I am going to give up on any expectations for backwards compatibility streaming.
I really wanted to remote play my beloved PSN titles from the PS3, but that didn't happen at all. Then I would have settled for the future, just make all future titles on PS4 remote playable, but now I'm not even sure about that.
In the presentation they say they are “unlocking remote play” and the Vita "will be capable" of remote play with PS4 games. Then he proceeds to say the long term goal is streaming ps1, ps2, and ps3 games as well. I hope that's the case, but more than likely they will roll out games for the service with the same frequency as ps1 classics for vita.
And now Jack Tretton writes on the PSblog:
“it’s our long-term vision to make most PS4 games playable on PS Vita”
I hate the sound of that quote, and this is really shaping up to be another empty promise in my mind. They seriously need to be very specific and honest about what will and won’t happen with Remote Play this time.
Re: New Final Fantasy Title to Be Revealed at E3 2013
I really can't believe they didn't just say the title or anything.
Re: Sony Officially Reveals the PlayStation 4, Launching Holiday 2013
I also need to know what they're going to do with Playstation Plus. My subscription goes well into 2015 I think so if they start giving away PS4 games I can't even play that'd be a pretty good reason to upgrade as well.
Re: Sony Officially Reveals the PlayStation 4, Launching Holiday 2013
@Belmont
Exactly. I thought they were very unclear about remote play too. They said they are unlocking remote play, and that the ps4 can remote play games to the Vita. But I don't think he said every ps4 game will remote play to the Vita. And he sure as heck didn't say all of your digital ps3 games will remote play to the Vita. That would be the real selling point for me at launch.
If they botch remote play again and selectively choose what will and won't remote play and pretend to roll out ps3 games for remote play but stop after the first bunch and stop talking about it — then I'll be very comfortable waiting a year or 2 to upgrade to ps4. I'm not going to preorder, I'm just going to wait and see after launch if they held their promises.
And The Witness was definitely Myst.
Re: Live: Watch The PlayStation 2013 Meeting Right Here
I Wish David Perry would have come right out and said every PS4 and eventually PS3 game will be remote playable on the Vita. He said they are going to unlock it with Gaikai tech with the PS4 as the server and the Vita as the client, but he didn't come right out and say every PS4 game will be remote playable. And he was very vague about ps3 games if I recall. I won't be in any hurry to get a PS4 unless the remote play of my big digital ps3 catalog is universal instead of some sort of slow rollout.
Re: Live: Watch The PlayStation 2013 Meeting Right Here
1)Unlocking remote play to the Vita
2)Automatic streaming demos for everything
3)Start playing games the second you purchase them
4)the interesting sounding customization features in the store for the types of games you like
5)Watching the streams of your friends gameplay, as well as taking over the controls for them. That's pretty crazy.
those have to be the highlights for me. I also like the sound of their ambition to add the full catalog of ps1, ps2, and ps3 games to streaming eventually, but obviously that has to be the biggest candidate for empty promise like when they said the Vita would have remote play with the ps3.
Re: Check Your PSN Messages, You May Have Free Credit
Cool! I'll have to check when I get home.
Re: Feature: Sony's PlayStation Meeting - Our Hopes, Dreams, and Fears for PlayStation 4
If I'm honest with myself, I'm actually much more interested in what my Vita will be able to do. I say this because what I really want to hear is how the PS4 is going to make owning a Vita better. Talk to me about remote play and cross-controller, Sony! And do please show off some games.
Also, what do you think the odds are they simply roll their streaming technology into PS+?
Re: Sony Announces Surprise PlayStation Vita Price-Cut in Japan
This is good. I predict that this will help.
Re: Talking Point: Why Gaikai Is Paramount to PlayStation's Future
I have Netflix and hulu plus as a replacement for cable. I actually enjoy those relatively cheap subscription models. I think I would prefer renting games individually however, instead of adding another monthly bill, unless the catalog is vast and the service is cheap, or if they simply include it with PS+.
Re: Rumour: Gaikai Will Enable PS3 Streaming on PS4
Maybe the ps4 could recognize which ps3 disc you put into it, even if it can't play it. I don't know if that's possible but it would be the way to prove you own it every time you want to stream it.
Re: Rumour: Gaikai Will Enable PS3 Streaming on PS4
Backwards compatibility = not that big a deal. Renting games on your console? = genius.
I'd love to see some ps3 streaming to the vita now through the more powerful ps4. And do you think they somehow plan to identify what ps3 games you own or something like that? Maybe you could only stream the ones you bought digitally?
Re: Microsoft: PlayStation 3 Doesn't Do Entertainment As Well As Xbox 360
These statements are making Microsoft seem a little desperate moving forward. As far as I'm concerned the only thing I'm missing by not having an Xbox is Halo, the occasional indie game exclusive, ESPN, and HBO Go. The pros of choosing the PS3 (PS+, free online, NFL Sunday Ticket, better exclusives, blu ray) really put the xbox to shame in my opinion.
Re: Talking Point: What Will the Next PlayStation Be Called?
I'm a much bigger fan of simply using the next number. I'm still bothered that Nintendo didn't just use Wii 2.