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Apparently they added haptic feedback for now and arrow as well!

@JJ2
Because there are a lot of 'gamers' that only scream "No 4k@60 FPS with Ray-tracing on next gen?????" without any understanding what they're talking about. This probably forces developers into ticking off certain graphic modes at launch to prevent misplaced outrage.

@naruball
Check this: https://youtu.be/HH-jrO5UgVw

There is supposedly a physical version coming when all DLC has been released.

One thing I missed in DF comparison, does the PS5 version use haptic feedback/adaptive triggers? I'd like to know if this improves the racing experience.

@helbertpina
I believe this occurs only with PS4 physical discs. The reason behind this is that the PS5 starts automatically installing the PS4 version from disc as soon as you insert the disc into your console, regardless if you have the PS5 version installed. The only workaround I've heard of is to delete the PS4 version when the disc is not in the console. Then go to the game you want to play. Selecte more options (the 3 dots), and choose to start the PS5 version. Then insert the disc. If I'm correct this way the PS5 version will start without the console trying to automatically instal the PS4 version.

Ubisoft needs to get their act together. These 2 games have problems on XBOX as well. The auto save option randomly disappears and with it goes the manual save option.
https://www.purexbox.com/news/2020/11/watch_dogs_legion_isnt_saving_progress_correctly_on_xbox_wont_be_fixed_until_december

I'm glad I chose to only buy the dedicated PS5 version of games! My Spider-sense was tingling when the PS4 + PS5 combo packs are sold for less then a standalone PS5 version. What a mess with these free PS4 to PS5 upgrades!

You can delete the PS4 version. However, you'll end in a loop if you upgraded from a PS4 physical game. After deleting the PS4 version, the PS5 will automatically reinstall the PS4 version as soon as you insert the PS4 disc, which is mandatory in order to boot up the free digital PS5 upgrade.

Just imagine having to install COD twice and receiving their massive patches twice! R.I.P. SSD!

It does support mouse and keyboard, in case you don't like the gamepad controls.

What some men need to do to get approval from their spouse to buy a PS5...

I get an error message "something went wrong" when trying to add it to my library.

It's almost if someone mistook the triangle for a arrow. Now the controller has a up and down button, lol

@RainbowGazelle
You'll get so much more for that price then merely this collection. And don't forget Black Friday is around the corner. Which 99% sure means we'll see a 25% PS+ discount appear soon. That's a good moment to jump aboard if you havn't already.

PSVR sequel, visual upgrade or VR compatibility mode?

This will be patched, right?
I'm not sure how many of these findings are 'as designed' for retail units or simply missing on the review units.

That's really disappointing, but luckily something they can (and probably will) fix with a future firmware upgrade.

@Quintumply
Can you fast travel on the map and easily restart races? Or do you need to find the starting point for each event on the map and drive there manually?
I believe the latter was true in the original game until a patch was released further down the line.

And this is without DLC and patches....

-edit-
Apparently it needs 285Gb to be installed!!!

Source: https://twitter.com/GamesAndWario/status/1324052626749665280?s=20

@SarcasticPeanut
That sounds reasonable. But it still has me worried that this would mean there will be almost no new VR content coming in the immeadiate future. Star Wars: Squadrons is a great example of how PS4 and PSVR games can co-exist. Guess this will no longer happen on PS5.

@hi_drnick
Maybe you should consider the fact that Hitman 3 will import all the levels (including DLC) from previous Hitman games if you own them, which I do. Hitman 2 is already over 100Gb on my PS4 because of this. Adding Hitman 3 to that list will probably add another 50Gb (+future DLC). So yes, I do consider having to install over 300Gb and presumably no cross save game option a problem, if this is required to play the PS5 and PSVR version. Especially since there will be less then 700Gb free space available on PS5.

This is ridacalous. So on my PS5 i have to use PS4 version of games that are also availlable on PS5 to be able to enjoy VR? And let's not forget that most of these games still use PS3 move controllers.

And what about save files? Are they separate for PS4 and PS5 version as well?

Let's hope my unplayed "Assassin's Creed: The Ezio Collection" will work properly on PS5. Shame not being able to play "Star Wars: Bridge Crew" anymore.

Look at the bright side. You no longer need a PS4 Camera extension cable once you hook up this baby

I'd love to see you test this beast with PSVR and report any differences.

@phil_j
I have the same decision to make. I forwarded the video to friends, but havn't watched it myself, lol.

@AFCC
I read it's (as good) as instantaneous and they use a transitional wipe/fade. They included an toggle option in the menu to re-include the loading screen transition animations (e.g. where spider-man is taking the subway) so you can still see these if you wanted.

I'll have a huge backlog of PS4 games. So i'll use it often in the first year or so. However, i plan to finish the campaign of each game only once and will not revisit already completed PS4 games on the PS5.
But i also have a PSVR. And i will continue to play those games (like Beat Saber) regularly during mij PS5 life cycle.
These count as backwards compatibility games too, right?

Deluxe Edition?
For next gen consoles?
Can't find it in my region...

@Kopite
I dont't want to see the UI for the UI's sake. But i'm curious about all possibilities.
Like the apps that are present, resolution options we can choose, how the friendslist look, the internal media player, the Blu-ray player options, other quality of life improvements compared to the PS4 and that sort of thing.
I don't need to see it, but i'm curious

@get2sammyb
It's the same sound effect as in the startup UI video last june!

https://twitter.com/yozetty/status/1271251323602849792

"Now with every Whopper menu, a chance to win a PS5! Starting this Thursday!"

-edit-
Everything seems like it's a "Win a PS5" promotional ad. But the date at the end throws me off. They wouldn't tease a simple promotional ad like that with a anouncement trailer just 2 days before it starts, right?

Maybe it's a new sandwich which looks like a PS5 console laid horizontal xD!

-edit 2-
Or maybe it's the custom face plates being revealed, starting with some flame grilled Burger King themed PS5 face plates.

@Medic_Alert
I think a key factor is that the XBOX is emitting the heat at the top this time (instead of blowing the heat to the backside). That makes it more noticeable to people when they e.g. swap the disc.

Although Jeff Bakalar burning his fingers on the 1Tb expansion card, after the console has been in standb-by mode for a while is interesting.

See this video @2:24
https://youtu.be/S4PO9HxwyPw?t=144

Let's be honest, who else got a semi-boner watching the teardown?

I think PS5's approach is all about evolution, and that's a good thing!

• Removable Panels
• Liquid Metal Cooling
• Dust Catchers
• Haptic Feedback on the triggers
• Custom SSD

Man, if this is just the console, i can't wait what they come up with for the new VR headset!

@get2sammyb
Please let this be real! I could see Ubisoft using this Assassin character as a joke and that the DLC protagonist is nothing more than a cosplayer who is a fan of the Assassin's Creed games instead of a true bloodline follower of Altaïr.
Fingers crossed for the latter!

The video also confirmed keyboard and mouse support for next gen consoles + workshop support for consoles!
Does this mean mods as well?

Just a reminder that this also means we have to keep avoiding spoilers for a week from gamers in the USA who are already playing those games.
And then there are some PS5 titles that might even release earlier on their PS4 counterpart.
Going to be hard to keep up-to-date with PS5 news while trying to avoid spoilers.

This might add fuel to the rumour that it's a contract issue and therefore there will be no free PS4 to PS5 upgrade for the Remaster.

There's even a video online comparing the faces: https://youtu.be/CdgzYj5OVm8

Does it include PSVR support?

Does this mean we get themed levels based on first party PlayStation games?
That would make this an instant buy!

I'm curious what this game is before even thinking about Microtransactions.

Update:
Insomniac Games community director James Stevenson has now stated that, in the case of Marvel's Spider-Man: Miles Morales at least, your PS4 save will carry across to the PS5 if you utilise the title's free next-gen upgrade. This situation seems to suggest that cross-save has not been mandated by Sony and so some developers may opt not to support the feature

@SLEEVExOFxWIZARD
I thought they only received the outer shell for demonstration purposes. There are no electronics inside. Just an empty (X)box.

Now that's what i call a pre-order.

"You can upgrade to the PS5 version of Miles Morales for free if you buy the PS4 version. And if you do that, you can pay for an Ultimate Edition upgrade, which gives you access to Spider-Man: Remastered"

In this scenario, do I need the PS4 disc of "Spider-Man: Miles Morales" to be able to play the digital PS5 version of "Spider-Man: Remastered"?

I think we'll need a flowchart for this mess, lol.

@carlos82
And that the cases are blue instead of semitransparent black or white.

Even if this rumour is true, will this game still have it's magic touch without Kojima overseeing the development?

Sackboy Tiger Plush: https://press-start.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/Sackboy-A-Big-Adventure.jpg

So the original Spider-Man on PS4 was 75Gb including all DLC. The PS5 Remastered edition is 55Gb. So this is roughly a optimization of 20% due to the fact you need less double assets installed because of the SSD's speed.

Has Sony said anything if installing PS4 games on a PS5 will also use less disc space because of this? Or is this strictly a feature for dedicated PS5 games, which will result in identical install sizes for PS4 games on a PS5, compared to PS4.

(I already sold my PS4, but still have a good amount of PS4 games laying around that i need to play once I get my PS5.)

That's a good thing to hear!