Going to get it on Xbox because 1) I could actually snag a XSX unlike my bad luck trying to get a PS5 and 2) that Rockstar Energy promotion basically gets me the game for free
I really dislike owning multiple controllers that are exactly the same, so I'm holding out for new colors before I buy a second one. Unfortunately, I also like to keep one controller charging/charged while I use the other, so it looks like I'll be unable to do that for a while. Kinda lame on Sony's part - MS has several colors available right off the bat in addition to allowing previous gen controller compatibility. Nintendo also had multiple colored joy-con available immediately. Oh well..
Why is there only one controller color? Iād buy a second controller sooner if I had more than one option - I donāt like having more than one of the exact same controller.
Playing through/finishing up Deus Ex MD now - overall, it is AWESOME and I absolutely recommend picking it up at that price.
I also played through The Order 1886 recently, and cannot recommend it even at $9.99 - I got it for $4.99 and I suppose it was worth that, so if you're thinking of picking it up, wait for a better sale.
I hope the lights are not too bright - I really don't like the lightbar on the DS4 (along with the lightup Xbox button on the Xbone controller). I find controller lights very distracting, especially while playing survival horror in a dimly lit room. At least let me turn them off!
@God_of_Nowt "I don't find issue with cross gen games from a consumer or developer side so much as I take issue with Microsoft and Sony not explaining things to the consumer with transparency."
If a dev thinks, "I could make "x" happen on PS5, but not on PS4, and the game must release on both systems, therefore I can't put "x" into the game," that game is not being built for PS5
@God_of_Nowt I understand what you're saying, but what you're saying is not what "built from the ground up for PS5" means. R&C fits the description. Horizon FW does not.
If what @OmegaStriver said is correct, that is a perfect example of how HFW is not being "built from the ground up for PS5"
@God_of_Nowt But didn't you just make the argument that R&C couldn't run on PS4 without essentially being a different game? If hypothetically R&C was also on PS4, and it was the same game on both consoles, it would have held back what it could have been on PS5 alone by your own argument.
@Flaming_Kaiser Okay, but I donāt care if GP is āsustainableā or not. I donāt work for Microsoft, and Iām not required to think about their business strategy. The way GP works right now - what it is right now - is awesome. If it sucks in the future, Iāll stop subscribing. Simple as that.
Not sure how you define āblockbuster single player gameā but most of the games I listed are both single player and high in quality. Other AAA single player games that are or were on GP this year include: Red Dead 2, Doom, Wolfenstein 2, Dishonored 2, Outer Worlds, Remnant, Witcher 3, FF15, DQ11, Kingdom Hearts 3, all the Halo games, all the Gears games...I could go on - not sure what youāre looking for.
Iām not trying to suggest that Sony should adopt the Game Pass model. All Iām saying is that GP, in its current form, is awesome.
@Flaming_Kaiser I played the following games this year on Game Pass:
Battletoads Bridge Constructor Portal Carrion Life is Strange 2 Man of Medan Metro: 2033 - Redux Metro: Last Light - Redux New Super Luckyās Tale Observation Ori and the Blind Forest: Definitive Edition Plague Tale: Innocence Resident Evil 7 Sea of Thieves Streets of Rage 4 Superhot Untitled Goose Game What Remains of Edith Finch World War Z
So far, Iāve spent around $85 on Game Pass Ultimate.
I donāt think waiting a month is going to allow for me to pay that small of a price to play all those games, especially considering I need online to play some of these, and others donāt even have physical copies available to purchase even if I wanted to buy them that way. On top of that, playing a game on day one of its release is satisfying to me as it allows me to be in the conversation as itās happening.
How did the rumor that PS5 was backwards compatible with all previous Playstation home consoles even get started?
I feel like I read an article 12-18 months ago that said PS5 could do that (not that I personally believed the rumor), but I think that's why there were/are so many people that believed it to be true.
@MrGawain Try Uncharted and the 3 newest Tomb Raider games if you haven't. Based on the games you seem to like, that's 8 more games on PS4 I'm pretty sure you would absolutely love.
Edit: Perhaps you don't like guns in games. Even so, give TR a shot.
I really want to be excited for next gen, but Iām just not. That lineup is just not appealing enough to me - Nothing for me on the new Xbox either. Oh well! Still have a few current gen games left to play and complete while I look forward to 2021.
@phil_j For me, the Game Pass love comes from: 1. Downloading and installing games (instead of streaming) 2. Day one games (Streets of Rage 4, Carrion, Tell Me Why, etc.)
$15/month for GP Ultimate is equivalent to purchasing three $60 games/year. I have already played and completed 15 games (granted not all of them were $60 games, but still) on GP this year, and I didn't even pay full price because even GP goes on sale sometimes.
It also includes being able to play online and the ~4 games/month they let you "keep" from Games with Gold. I'm pretty sure you don't have to pay to play online on PC, so you may not relate to that benefit, but my PC is not the best, so that part of the deal does matter to me.
Bottom line, if you don't care about "owning" your games, that value cannot be beaten.
I don't care if its "sustainable" because it works how it works right now and I'm taking advantage of it. If Microsoft changes how it works in the future, I'll re-evaluate. Game Pass is currently awesome, and the best reason to own an Xbox.
BTW, for reference, I also own a PS4 and have purchased over 50 games for it. I'm platform agnostic, and also own a Switch along with several retro consoles as well.
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Re: PS Store End of Year Deals Sale Discounts Lots of PS4 Games
Deus Ex MD - $4.49 (already purchased)
Deus Ex MD Deluxe - $6.79
Deus Ex MD Season Pass - $14.99
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Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Saves Can Be Transferred from PS4 to PS5
Going to get it on Xbox because 1) I could actually snag a XSX unlike my bad luck trying to get a PS5 and 2) that Rockstar Energy promotion basically gets me the game for free
Re: Demon-Slaying Rhythm Game Metal: Hellsinger Gets New Gameplay in Music Video
Looks completely amazing! I believe the music adds layers/tracks as you keep your combo up. Can't wait for reviews and hope there is a demo.
Re: Katamari Damacy Reroll (PS4) - Roll 'Em Up Remake Rocks
Does this run at 60fps?
Re: Marvel's Avengers Takes Aim at Kate Bishop Add-On, Free from 8th December
I have to wonder if theyāll go back to Deus Ex after this or if DE is just as dead as this game is.
Re: Shadow Complex Remastered Is Now Fully Playable via PS5 Backwards Compatibility
Oh heck yeah! Super happy to see this!
Re: DualSense PS5 Controllers Will Be Available in Black and Other Colours 'In the Future'
@Vilgefortz Didn't say it was. Just sharing my thoughts.
Re: DualSense PS5 Controllers Will Be Available in Black and Other Colours 'In the Future'
I really dislike owning multiple controllers that are exactly the same, so I'm holding out for new colors before I buy a second one. Unfortunately, I also like to keep one controller charging/charged while I use the other, so it looks like I'll be unable to do that for a while. Kinda lame on Sony's part - MS has several colors available right off the bat in addition to allowing previous gen controller compatibility. Nintendo also had multiple colored joy-con available immediately. Oh well..
Re: Hands On: PS5 Backwards Compatibility - The Good, the Not Bad, and the Ugly
@Only1PJA Thank you! Turns out I have a couple of those - dang!
Re: You Can't Play PT on PS5
Well, I guess Iām keeping my PS4 then.
Re: PS5 Doesn't Have Quick Resume, But Loading Is Lightning Fast
@get2sammyb Okay, cool! Thanks for confirming!
Re: PS5 Doesn't Have Quick Resume, But Loading Is Lightning Fast
@get2sammyb Is it possible to put the PS5 into rest mode and jump back in right where you were like you can on PS4 though?
Re: All PS5 Games Running at 120 Frames-Per-Second
Any confirmation on if these are 4K or 1080p at 120fps?
Re: New PS Store Sale Has Some of the Last PS4 Deals Before PS5 Arrives
I 100% prefer buying on PlayStation, but Xbox got my money this week - way better Halloween deals over there.
SOMA - $2.99
Condemned - $4.99
Ghostbusters - $7.49
Re: New PS Store Sale Has Some of the Last PS4 Deals Before PS5 Arrives
@PaperAlien Dang, well, that sucks then
Re: New PS Store Sale Has Some of the Last PS4 Deals Before PS5 Arrives
Wishlist still works on the PlayStation App - at least for me it does - just checked it on iOS in USA
Re: PS5 Controllers, 3D Headphones, HD Cameras, and DualSense Charging Stations Reach Retailers
Why is there only one controller color? Iād buy a second controller sooner if I had more than one option - I donāt like having more than one of the exact same controller.
Re: PlayStation Store Halloween Sale Has Some Spooktastic PS4 Deals
Playing through/finishing up Deus Ex MD now - overall, it is AWESOME and I absolutely recommend picking it up at that price.
I also played through The Order 1886 recently, and cannot recommend it even at $9.99 - I got it for $4.99 and I suppose it was worth that, so if you're thinking of picking it up, wait for a better sale.
Re: You Can Transfer Your PS4 Games and Save Data to PS5
Moving all games on the internal storage to extended storage/HDD now then š
...except Shadow Complex Remastered š
Re: These Are the PS4 Games That Won't Play on PS5
I suppose I could just buy Shadow Complex on XBox if I really got the urge to replay it as I would like to be able to get rid of my PS4 completely.
I wonder how conclusive this list actually is - the omission of PT has me a bit skeptical.
Re: Gallery: Ogle the PS5 Controller's Light Strip in Different Colours
I hope the lights are not too bright - I really don't like the lightbar on the DS4 (along with the lightup Xbox button on the Xbone controller). I find controller lights very distracting, especially while playing survival horror in a dimly lit room. At least let me turn them off!
Re: Hands On: Genshin Impact Is a Very Impressive Free-to-Play Action RPG
I played this for a couple hours yesterday and was actually enjoying it, but I'm concerned about investing too much time into it without a payoff.
I have a couple questions I can't seem to find answers to about this game if anyone can help:
1. Is this a game that can be beaten?/What are the requirements to roll credits?
2. Has anyone actually run into a microtransaction wall?
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 342
PS4 - The Order 1886
Switch - Doom 64, Rocket League
Xbone - Resident Evil 7
PC - The Dream Machine, Black Mesa
Re: Sony Apologises for PS5 Pre-Order Panic, More to Be Made Available
@NorrinRadd Hahaha... That is preposterous.
Re: Sony Apologises for PS5 Pre-Order Panic, More to Be Made Available
I like the part when they said, "Let's be honest." š
Re: Horizon Forbidden West Built from the 'Ground Up' for PS5
@God_of_Nowt "I don't find issue with cross gen games from a consumer or developer side so much as I take issue with Microsoft and Sony not explaining things to the consumer with transparency."
Yes. Agreed.
Re: Horizon Forbidden West Built from the 'Ground Up' for PS5
If a dev thinks, "I could make "x" happen on PS5, but not on PS4, and the game must release on both systems, therefore I can't put "x" into the game," that game is not being built for PS5
Re: Horizon Forbidden West Built from the 'Ground Up' for PS5
@God_of_Nowt I understand what you're saying, but what you're saying is not what "built from the ground up for PS5" means. R&C fits the description. Horizon FW does not.
If what @OmegaStriver said is correct, that is a perfect example of how HFW is not being "built from the ground up for PS5"
Re: Horizon Forbidden West Built from the 'Ground Up' for PS5
@God_of_Nowt But didn't you just make the argument that R&C couldn't run on PS4 without essentially being a different game? If hypothetically R&C was also on PS4, and it was the same game on both consoles, it would have held back what it could have been on PS5 alone by your own argument.
Re: Horizon Forbidden West Built from the 'Ground Up' for PS5
"Built from the ground up for PS5" =/= "Also built to run on PS4"
Re: Horizon Forbidden West Built from the 'Ground Up' for PS5
@God_of_Nowt
'I don't know what you mean by "glory",' Alice said.
Humpty Dumpty smiled contemptuously. 'Of course you don't ā till I tell you. I meant "there's a nice knock-down argument for you!"'
'But "glory" doesn't mean "a nice knock-down argument",' Alice objected.
'When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, 'it means just what I choose it to mean ā neither more nor less.'
'The question is,' said Alice, 'whether you can make words mean so many different things.'
Re: All PS5 Launch Games
@KidBoruto
https://watchdogs.ubisoft.com/game/en-us/ 10/29
https://www.ubisoft.com/en-us/game/assassins-creed/valhalla 11/10
https://www.callofduty.com/blackopscoldwar 11/13
https://www.cyberpunk.net/us/en/ 11/19
Re: Sony Won't Follow Game Pass Model on PS5, Doesn't Believe It's Sustainable
@Flaming_Kaiser Iām okay with not owning every game I play, and I find that doom and gloom scenario youāre suggesting incredibly unlikely.
Re: Sony Won't Follow Game Pass Model on PS5, Doesn't Believe It's Sustainable
@Flaming_Kaiser Okay, but I donāt care if GP is āsustainableā or not. I donāt work for Microsoft, and Iām not required to think about their business strategy. The way GP works right now - what it is right now - is awesome. If it sucks in the future, Iāll stop subscribing. Simple as that.
Not sure how you define āblockbuster single player gameā but most of the games I listed are both single player and high in quality. Other AAA single player games that are or were on GP this year include: Red Dead 2, Doom, Wolfenstein 2, Dishonored 2, Outer Worlds, Remnant, Witcher 3, FF15, DQ11, Kingdom Hearts 3, all the Halo games, all the Gears games...I could go on - not sure what youāre looking for.
Iām not trying to suggest that Sony should adopt the Game Pass model. All Iām saying is that GP, in its current form, is awesome.
Re: Sony Won't Follow Game Pass Model on PS5, Doesn't Believe It's Sustainable
@Flaming_Kaiser I played the following games this year on Game Pass:
Battletoads
Bridge Constructor Portal
Carrion
Life is Strange 2
Man of Medan
Metro: 2033 - Redux
Metro: Last Light - Redux
New Super Luckyās Tale
Observation
Ori and the Blind Forest: Definitive Edition
Plague Tale: Innocence
Resident Evil 7
Sea of Thieves
Streets of Rage 4
Superhot
Untitled Goose Game
What Remains of Edith Finch
World War Z
So far, Iāve spent around $85 on Game Pass Ultimate.
I donāt think waiting a month is going to allow for me to pay that small of a price to play all those games, especially considering I need online to play some of these, and others donāt even have physical copies available to purchase even if I wanted to buy them that way. On top of that, playing a game on day one of its release is satisfying to me as it allows me to be in the conversation as itās happening.
Re: The Dream Is Dead: PS5 Will Not Play PS3, PS2, or PS1 Games
@kiki3400 Yes, you are correct! Thank you! Found it: https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2019/02/ps5_backwards_compatibility_suggested_by_sony_patent
Re: The Dream Is Dead: PS5 Will Not Play PS3, PS2, or PS1 Games
My question is, will PS5 be backwards compatible with PT, or am I going to have to leave my PS4 hooked up? š¤
Re: The Dream Is Dead: PS5 Will Not Play PS3, PS2, or PS1 Games
How did the rumor that PS5 was backwards compatible with all previous Playstation home consoles even get started?
I feel like I read an article 12-18 months ago that said PS5 could do that (not that I personally believed the rumor), but I think that's why there were/are so many people that believed it to be true.
Re: All PS5 Launch Games
@Pinkman For whatever reason, PushSquare hasn't listed these games in this article (copied from IGN):
Assassin's Creed: Valhalla
Cyberpunk 2077* (Releases alongside PS5 worldwide launch on Nov 19th)
Call of Duty: Black Ops - Cold War* (Releases Nov 13th)
Devil May Cry 5: Special Edition
Destiny 2: Beyond Light
Godfall
Fortnite
Marvelās Avengers
Observer: System Redux
Watch Dogs Legion
(Edit: added more confirmed launch games)
Re: All PS5 Launch Games
@Mikey856 Try pricecharting.com
Re: Poll: Will You Buy a PS5?
@MrGawain Try Uncharted and the 3 newest Tomb Raider games if you haven't. Based on the games you seem to like, that's 8 more games on PS4 I'm pretty sure you would absolutely love.
Edit: Perhaps you don't like guns in games. Even so, give TR a shot.
Re: All PS5 Launch Games
I really want to be excited for next gen, but Iām just not. That lineup is just not appealing enough to me - Nothing for me on the new Xbox either. Oh well! Still have a few current gen games left to play and complete while I look forward to 2021.
Re: Sony Won't Follow Game Pass Model on PS5, Doesn't Believe It's Sustainable
@phil_j For me, the Game Pass love comes from:
1. Downloading and installing games (instead of streaming)
2. Day one games (Streets of Rage 4, Carrion, Tell Me Why, etc.)
$15/month for GP Ultimate is equivalent to purchasing three $60 games/year. I have already played and completed 15 games (granted not all of them were $60 games, but still) on GP this year, and I didn't even pay full price because even GP goes on sale sometimes.
It also includes being able to play online and the ~4 games/month they let you "keep" from Games with Gold. I'm pretty sure you don't have to pay to play online on PC, so you may not relate to that benefit, but my PC is not the best, so that part of the deal does matter to me.
Bottom line, if you don't care about "owning" your games, that value cannot be beaten.
I don't care if its "sustainable" because it works how it works right now and I'm taking advantage of it. If Microsoft changes how it works in the future, I'll re-evaluate. Game Pass is currently awesome, and the best reason to own an Xbox.
BTW, for reference, I also own a PS4 and have purchased over 50 games for it. I'm platform agnostic, and also own a Switch along with several retro consoles as well.
Re: Katamari Damacy Reroll Finally Comes to PS4 This November
Will this be 60fps on PS4?
Re: Puyo Puyo Tetris 2 Clears a Path to PS5, PS4 This Year
Probably the last game that needed a sequel, but cool for the one or two people out there who enjoyed the first title for its story...
Re: Kingdom Hearts: Melody of Memory Grooves to the Beat This November
It took me two spin-off titles (CoM and 3.14159/63 1/3 or whatever) to realize that I was actually only interested in the main games.
It took me one more title (KH3) to realize Iām actually not interested in the franchise at all anymore.
Re: Marvel's Avengers File Size Is a Massive 90GB on PS4
Wish it was 90gbs of Tomb Raider. Oh well..
Re: Geocities Simulator Hypnospace Outlaw Browses PS4 from 27th August
@Porkfiend Thought the same thing - kinda loses something in translation to controller from mouse and keyboard.
Re: Random: YouTuber Recreates Yakuza in Real Life to an Eerily Accurate Degree
Loved the friction from walking too close to the wall - brilliant!
Re: Hands On: Marvel's Avengers Has a Critical Path Problem
Pretty sure this unfortunately isnāt for me... #WishItWasTombRaider