I'm all for more people getting to experience Final Fantasy on whatever platform or service they use, but I really miss the days of almost daily announcements and a game every year or two. Ever since Sakaguchi left/was fired they seem to have dragged their feet on decisions that weren't necessarily much better than his bad ones.
@pip_muzz The concept was sold on consoles that were available at the time, if they were aware of new consoles they would have had NDAs to not discuss them. Games are announced on older consoles all the time but get copies for old and new platforms on release. If it was upgraded to Xbox Series X it should have been upgraded for PS5. The Xbox One owners are in the same boat as the PlayStation owners, if they want the best experience their only limited choice is to buy the Xbox Series version.
If a console manufacturer believes in their platform enough it shouldn't matter, they'll still get money. It's a different matter for in-house studios that have been created from the ground up, while I think it's still unfair for the consumer at least they've put the effort and money in from the start.
The same also applies for any Insomniac games, or any other previously independent studios as I loath the idea of any console manufacturer buying developers up and keeping them for themselves.
@pip_muzz
I can't speak for everyone else, but I would have bought a Series X if it had enough games that interested me, at the moment one game does not justify that.
It IS a hobby and not everyone has the money to buy every console, even if there wasn't a global shortage.
Some people who are console biased for whatever reason are calling this a 1st party game, it's not, it was conceived and initially financed by gamers who represent both console options and PC.
Doublefine was scooped up while it was late in development.
It's unfair that an equal experience isn't being offered to all interested gamers and also that it's being tied to digital only to try and sell gamepass.
People complaining is how companies know how share prices will react, if enough feel strongly about something then they can choose to amend their original plans, and sometimes that benefits everyone.
Double Fine games have been the only games I've bought digitally, to support them to hopefully get a Psychonauts sequel. That said I do find it a kick in the teeth after that to not get the best version released for both Xbox and Playstation.
If you want to talk about settling for an inferior version, I would have been happy to have the game without the Microsoft funded extra bosses etc. As long as everyone was able to enjoy it equally. But they sold out, and you can bet a third full game won't be available on PlayStation in the future. With that in mind I sure as hell won't pay £50 for a digital copy.
@get2sammyb I agree, it would be good to go in, fix up old deteriorated roads and ziplines etc. and try out the new toys. But I wouldn't want to fork out for it unless it was a whole new game. Does appear to have deviated from its original idea of encouraging the player to avoid fighting though.
Good thing I've cancelled my PS+ then. I was mildly interested in this and Scorn out of all of Xbox's previously announced games and I'm really rather annoyed they get the best version of Psychonauts 2, but that's definitely not enough to justify me buying an X Box Series X, pity, wish they either had more to offer or let Double Fine release a physical PS5 copy of Psychonauts 2.
Honestly, I don't care how well these end up, they've been wringing GTAV to death, and with certain people leaving and suddenly re-doing these it makes me think they're trying to get as much money as they can before they unleash a GTAVI that they already know will fall on its arse because of the current climate.
Well if it's not a scam, then it's different from the previous trailer as it is actually happening on the viewer's PS5, theoretically they could have any code in there to mess with it later and not play the same way. It's got to have some weird twist like that or what would be the point of having a real-time app over a standard trailer.
@wiiware
You can still get it for that £40, that extra money doesn't get added into making the game.
Publishers will allow the same budget either way, they still make huge profit at either price.
You're just petitioning to give them extra money for nothing, and it's not like the developers get rewarded and see a bonus if the game price is increased, it just goes to shareholders. 😆
@theheadofabroom In the mid 90's the publishers tried to charge up to £80 for some games, and people stopped buying them new and they had to reduce prices, it was still the same AAA titles.
Price does not dictate the quality of the game, publishers have historically tried every now and then to try and push the boundaries to see if customers are stupid enough to fall for it. They need to be slapped down each time, they still make plenty of profit on £40 games so don't help to pedal that misinformation.
Really hope this doesn't cause problems for Lego Star Wars or end up with Microsoft or Sony blocking Lego games from appearing on other consoles, I really dislike the chomping up of games developers that seems to be the current fad.
There was a stream earlier with Morse code. Go to the Blue Box YouTube channel (Abandonedthegame), the video 'Till Death Do Us Part' looks totally like it's the PT corridor, and the logo is slowly starting to change, like it might become the PlayStation studios logo.
Isn't the tree stump in the video the same one from the PT promo shot? I think that was an area in Japan that translated to silent hills, so while that's not indicative of the actual game it's a nod to the area Kojima was referring to before.
Pretty sure he's up to his tricks again.
@Sakisa Not at all. They should have made the best experience available to anyone just as Sony should in similar circumstances, I disagreed with the exclusivity agreements for Death Stranding and FFXVI etc. If they want to support the games support them for all and if they have enough confidence in their consoles or infrastructure then customers will gravitate to it on their own merits rather than holding things hostage.
@Sakisa If they really did want to support the game then they should have made it equally available to all and recouped their costs with profit on all formats. Sony should do the same when they choose to buy or support a developer's vision. If there weren't legal issues stopping them from not releasing to PS4 backers they wouldn't have and if there's a third game it's likely to be ringfenced. If you think that's reasonable then it says enough I dislike company stooges no matter the master and there's a few on here.
@TheFrenchiestFry They didn't own Doublefine when they were getting money off the public to get Psychonauts 2 off the ground. Microsoft must have really had to go out of their way to find the loophole that means PS4 backers will get their copies delayed. That's just mean and another example why these companies buying studios or exclusivity agreements to ring fence games and/or release dates is completely anti-consumer. I really don't understand why people in this day and age support this and act like Microsoft, Sony or Nintendo are like their favourite football team. This behaviour affects us all adversely.
So #@&* annoyed this isn't going to be getting a full PS5 release, hate when Microsoft and Sony lock off things from other console owners. Scummy behaviour.
That was terrible, from the phone based nonsense, the lack of more FF XVI info and Life is Strange upgrades instead of a Tomb Raider anniversary announcement it was extremely disappointing, just like the whole of E3 so far. I suppose we have the success of Soulsbourne games and the failure of Cyberpunk, mixed with unimaginative heads of games companies that there's a huge amount of overly serious dark high fantasy games over the next 5 years or so.
Would love this to reduce in price in time for my birthday, but ain't gonna happen, even if they released Final Fantasy VI HD remake tomorrow I wouldn't pay £70....
...well actually I would, but it would take that for me to actually pay that much for a game.😁
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Re: PS Now Adding Five Final Fantasy Games Over Coming Months
I'm all for more people getting to experience Final Fantasy on whatever platform or service they use, but I really miss the days of almost daily announcements and a game every year or two. Ever since Sakaguchi left/was fired they seem to have dragged their feet on decisions that weren't necessarily much better than his bad ones.
Re: Negotiations for Death Standing Sequel Underway, Reveals Star Reedus
"Death Standing"?
Re: Upcoming PS5, PS4 Games for September and October 2021
Out of that list, very few, and certainly not at those prices
Re: New GTA Character Casually Outed by Voice Actor
Someone's not getting hired again 😁
Re: Soapbox: Don't Let Psychonauts 2 Pass You By
@pip_muzz
The concept was sold on consoles that were available at the time, if they were aware of new consoles they would have had NDAs to not discuss them. Games are announced on older consoles all the time but get copies for old and new platforms on release.
If it was upgraded to Xbox Series X it should have been upgraded for PS5. The Xbox One owners are in the same boat as the PlayStation owners, if they want the best experience their only limited choice is to buy the Xbox Series version.
If a console manufacturer believes in their platform enough it shouldn't matter, they'll still get money.
It's a different matter for in-house studios that have been created from the ground up, while I think it's still unfair for the consumer at least they've put the effort and money in from the start.
The same also applies for any Insomniac games, or any other previously independent studios as I loath the idea of any console manufacturer buying developers up and keeping them for themselves.
Re: Soapbox: Don't Let Psychonauts 2 Pass You By
@pip_muzz
I can't speak for everyone else, but I would have bought a Series X if it had enough games that interested me, at the moment one game does not justify that.
It IS a hobby and not everyone has the money to buy every console, even if there wasn't a global shortage.
Some people who are console biased for whatever reason are calling this a 1st party game, it's not, it was conceived and initially financed by gamers who represent both console options and PC.
Doublefine was scooped up while it was late in development.
It's unfair that an equal experience isn't being offered to all interested gamers and also that it's being tied to digital only to try and sell gamepass.
People complaining is how companies know how share prices will react, if enough feel strongly about something then they can choose to amend their original plans, and sometimes that benefits everyone.
Re: Soapbox: Don't Let Psychonauts 2 Pass You By
Double Fine games have been the only games I've bought digitally, to support them to hopefully get a Psychonauts sequel. That said I do find it a kick in the teeth after that to not get the best version released for both Xbox and Playstation.
If you want to talk about settling for an inferior version, I would have been happy to have the game without the Microsoft funded extra bosses etc. As long as everyone was able to enjoy it equally.
But they sold out, and you can bet a third full game won't be available on PlayStation in the future.
With that in mind I sure as hell won't pay £50 for a digital copy.
Re: Rumour: PS Plus September 2021 PS5, PS4 Games Leaked Ahead of Official Reveal
If that's true it'll be another month I'll not even add them to my library.
Re: Death Stranding Details What Its PS5 Director's Cut Offers
@fR_eeBritney
I almost tried it a few times myself, managed to hold off instant diabetes though 😆
Re: Death Stranding Details What Its PS5 Director's Cut Offers
@get2sammyb
I agree, it would be good to go in, fix up old deteriorated roads and ziplines etc. and try out the new toys. But I wouldn't want to fork out for it unless it was a whole new game. Does appear to have deviated from its original idea of encouraging the player to avoid fighting though.
Re: Bloober Team Dismisses The Medium PS Plus Rumours
@PlayNation5
I don't have broadband, just limited data on my phone, so streaming wouldn't be an option for me.
Re: Bloober Team Dismisses The Medium PS Plus Rumours
Good thing I've cancelled my PS+ then. I was mildly interested in this and
Scorn out of all of Xbox's previously announced games and I'm really rather annoyed they get the best version of Psychonauts 2, but that's definitely not enough to justify me buying an X Box Series X, pity, wish they either had more to offer or let Double Fine release a physical PS5 copy of Psychonauts 2.
Re: Talking Point: What September 2021 PS Plus Games Do You Want for PS5, PS4?
Psychonauts 2 🤣
Re: Hands On: Lock-On Magazine Is a Love-Letter to the World of PlayStation
Still subscribed to Play, as long as they have exclusive interviews and in depth articles it's not changing any time soon.
Re: Soapbox: GTA: San Andreas Is Still an Open World Classic
Honestly, I don't care how well these end up, they've been wringing GTAV to death, and with certain people leaving and suddenly re-doing these it makes me think they're trying to get as much money as they can before they unleash a GTAVI that they already know will fall on its arse because of the current climate.
Re: Abandoned App Patch Drops, Trailer Is the Same as Twitter Tease
Well if it's not a scam, then it's different from the previous trailer as it is actually happening on the viewer's PS5, theoretically they could have any code in there to mess with it later and not play the same way. It's got to have some weird twist like that or what would be the point of having a real-time app over a standard trailer.
Re: Rumour: GTA 3, Vice City, San Andreas Being Remastered for PS5, PS4 with 'New and Old Graphics'
@Bamila
No disrespect, but that response is part of the problem.
Re: Rumour: GTA 3, Vice City, San Andreas Being Remastered for PS5, PS4 with 'New and Old Graphics'
Oh God no! Clunky gameplay with shinier graphics!? Yuck! No thanks!
Re: Rumour: Sony Planning More Expensive PS Plus Option That Could Include Crunchyroll
Considering the last 2 months games offerings, they should include it at no extra cost.
Re: PS Plus Games for August 2021 Available to Download on PS5, PS4 Now
Don't think I'll bother.
Re: Upcoming PS5 Firmware Will Display Trophy Lists Vertically
That's good I'm sick of having to go online to compare trophies to a friend just to get a better view of trophy progression.
Re: PS Plus August 2021 PS5, PS4 Games Announced
Woeful selection.
Re: Astro's Playroom PS5 Dev Team Asobi Staffing Up for its Next Game
@wiiware
You can still get it for that £40, that extra money doesn't get added into making the game.
Publishers will allow the same budget either way, they still make huge profit at either price.
You're just petitioning to give them extra money for nothing, and it's not like the developers get rewarded and see a bonus if the game price is increased, it just goes to shareholders. 😆
Re: Astro's Playroom PS5 Dev Team Asobi Staffing Up for its Next Game
@theheadofabroom
In the mid 90's the publishers tried to charge up to £80 for some games, and people stopped buying them new and they had to reduce prices, it was still the same AAA titles.
Price does not dictate the quality of the game, publishers have historically tried every now and then to try and push the boundaries to see if customers are stupid enough to fall for it. They need to be slapped down each time, they still make plenty of profit on £40 games so don't help to pedal that misinformation.
Re: Astro's Playroom PS5 Dev Team Asobi Staffing Up for its Next Game
@theheadofabroom
Total nonsense, stop enabling greed by normalising overpriced games.
Re: Astro's Playroom PS5 Dev Team Asobi Staffing Up for its Next Game
@wiiware
I hope it's a full £40 or less game...talk about turkeys voting for Christmas 🙄
Re: PS Plus August 2021 PS5, PS4 Games Leaked by Sony
Two online games, one that should probably be free to play and a bloody tennis game. Terrible month.
Re: Gothic PS5, PS4 Adventure Lost in Random Rolls 10th September Release Date
Is it getting a physical release?
Re: JRPG Sequel The Caligula Effect 2 Gets Weird on PS4 This October
What is the thing with Japanese games and words beginning with Re!?
Re: Final Fantasy 16 Won't Be at TGS 2021, But English Voice Recording Is Almost Complete
Fingers crossed for a Christmas release
Re: Warner Bros Allegedly Looking to Offload NetherRealm, TT Games
Really hope this doesn't cause problems for Lego Star Wars or end up with Microsoft or Sony blocking Lego games from appearing on other consoles, I really dislike the chomping up of games developers that seems to be the current fad.
Re: Ghost of Tsushima Director's Cut Bundles in New Island Expansion, Coming to PS5 and PS4
Good thing I didn't buy it when it came out, might still wait until it's on sale though.
Re: Mini Review: Legend of Mana (PS4) - Lovely Looking Remaster Is Still Strange, and Not Always in a Good Way
@Areus
Yeah, that was the vibe I've been starting to get from reading the comments, sounds good if that's the case.
Re: Poll: What Review Score Would You Give Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart?
Haven't played it and won't do until it's £40 or so.
Re: Abandoned Trailer App Delayed Yet Again, This Time to August
@LiamCroft
Well if it's not they're doing a good job, must've put a lot of work in, worth checking it out at least 😁
Re: Abandoned Trailer App Delayed Yet Again, This Time to August
The channel's now called Adandonedthegame
Re: Abandoned Trailer App Delayed Yet Again, This Time to August
There was a stream earlier with Morse code. Go to the Blue Box YouTube channel (Abandonedthegame), the video 'Till Death Do Us Part' looks totally like it's the PT corridor, and the logo is slowly starting to change, like it might become the PlayStation studios logo.
Re: A Plague Tale: Innocence PS5 Version Confirmed, Rumoured for PS Plus
Finally, something good I haven't already bought, but wasn't tempted to buy, seems spot on as a PS + game, hope it's true.
Re: EA Originals Game Lost In Random Shares Story Trailer, Coming Soon to PS5, PS4
Love Zoink! games, bought all of the others so far, looking forward to this.
Re: Hideo Kojima Fans Investigate PS5 Exclusive Abandoned, Reads Like Conspiracy Theories
Isn't the tree stump in the video the same one from the PT promo shot? I think that was an area in Japan that translated to silent hills, so while that's not indicative of the actual game it's a nod to the area Kojima was referring to before.
Pretty sure he's up to his tricks again.
Re: Psychonauts 2 Will Also Release on PS4 This August
@KippDynamite
Yep Sony really should have followed Microsoft's lead.
Re: Psychonauts 2 Will Also Release on PS4 This August
@Sakisa
Not at all. They should have made the best experience available to anyone just as Sony should in similar circumstances, I disagreed with the exclusivity agreements for Death Stranding and FFXVI etc.
If they want to support the games support them for all and if they have enough confidence in their consoles or infrastructure then customers will gravitate to it on their own merits rather than holding things hostage.
Re: Psychonauts 2 Will Also Release on PS4 This August
@TheFrenchiestFry
It's likely they already had legally binding agreements they couldn't default on.
Re: Psychonauts 2 Will Also Release on PS4 This August
@Sakisa
If they really did want to support the game then they should have made it equally available to all and recouped their costs with profit on all formats. Sony should do the same when they choose to buy or support a developer's vision.
If there weren't legal issues stopping them from not releasing to PS4 backers they wouldn't have and if there's a third game it's likely to be ringfenced. If you think that's reasonable then it says enough
I dislike company stooges no matter the master and there's a few on here.
Re: Psychonauts 2 Will Also Release on PS4 This August
@TheFrenchiestFry
They didn't own Doublefine when they were getting money off the public to get Psychonauts 2 off the ground.
Microsoft must have really had to go out of their way to find the loophole that means PS4 backers will get their copies delayed. That's just mean and another example why these companies buying studios or exclusivity agreements to ring fence games and/or release dates is completely anti-consumer.
I really don't understand why people in this day and age support this and act like Microsoft, Sony or Nintendo are like their favourite football team. This behaviour affects us all adversely.
Re: Psychonauts 2 Will Also Release on PS4 This August
So #@&* annoyed this isn't going to be getting a full PS5 release, hate when Microsoft and Sony lock off things from other console owners. Scummy behaviour.
Re: Round Up: What Was Announced at the Square Enix Presents Showcase?
@Vivisapprentice
It's the 25th anniversary this October, they could have planned better than that.
Re: Round Up: What Was Announced at the Square Enix Presents Showcase?
That was terrible, from the phone based nonsense, the lack of more FF XVI info and Life is Strange upgrades instead of a Tomb Raider anniversary announcement it was extremely disappointing, just like the whole of E3 so far. I suppose we have the success of Soulsbourne games and the failure of Cyberpunk, mixed with unimaginative heads of games companies that there's a huge amount of overly serious dark high fantasy games over the next 5 years or so.
Re: The Dark Pictures Anthology: House of Ashes Spooks PS5, PS4 in October
Learnt my lesson by after that VR game, unless they do an upgraded boxset of the Anthology I'm not touching it.
Re: Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart (PS5) - Intergalactic Stunner Puts PS5's Power on Display
Would love this to reduce in price in time for my birthday, but ain't gonna happen, even if they released Final Fantasy VI HD remake tomorrow I wouldn't pay £70....
...well actually I would, but it would take that for me to actually pay that much for a game.😁