@somnambulance yes they could have just copied the approach from Ghost of Tsushima and had the PS5 version recognise PS4 saves. Surely not that complicated to implement. I don't have an Xbox but it does seem they have the edge over Sony on this type of thing.
@somnambulance thanks for the answer! I also sold my PS4 and bought a DE PS5 , so their advice would apply to me too. The annoying thing is that the PS4 version is not on sale, while the PS5 Director's Cut is. At least I'll be able to upgrade to the PS5 DC after, but it's so annoying that you don't get both versions if you buy the PS5 version..
They should've given you a refund, that's also poor.
I agree on Death Stranding though, an amazing game that hits heights of immersion and emotional connection that I don't think I've ever had in another video game.
I played the original at launch and thought it was awesome fun, if far too difficult. I then played GTA 3, 4, VC and 5 all circa 2016-2018, and found that GTA5 blew them all out of the water in every way, though 4 has a great story. I do appreciate that the 3D trilogy were revolutionary at the time, but without nostalgia they are clunky frustrating games to play. Perhaps the remasters will solve that.
I had all the original, first three games on the PlayStation. Found them very difficult as a teenager, needed a guide to get through them. Very impressive and iconic games though.
@Rob_230 I totally agree, in fact I prefer the recent TR Trilogy to Uncharted. More depth to the combat and platforming, better level design, loads of puzzles. Uncharted wins on story and set pieces though.
@SoulChimera I also just put my Sega Saturn Quake disc into my PS5 and it didn't run or even give me the PS4 version for free. What IS the world coming to?
In fact what we REALLY need is a patched Red Dead Redemption 2 , with a massive expansion that recreates the original Red Dead Redemption in the RDR2 map and engine, plus perhaps a few missions to knit together the two games. Would be phenomenal.
Red Dead 2 definitely needs 60fps. I booted it up on the PS5 the other day, but it now feels desperately sluggish compared to the likes of the patched HZD and Days Gone
Also patch in the faster item pick-up from Red Dead Online.
Nothing against these games, at least there's a good variety. But I do miss them giving out less mainstream indie titles with PS Plus. That seemed to stop a couple of years ago.
Have replayed this lately on PS5 and am well into Frozen Wilds too. It just looks stunning, and the 60fps makes a world of difference. Really love this game.
Reported 1 crash the other day, perhaps it helped.
Watched it this morning and I also thought it was a bit spoilertastic, if totally nonsensical for people that haven't played the game. Loads of important scenes casually included.
What's the general consensus on this game? Is there a pay off from the massive time sink? I like the look of the locations.
Must admit I got bored before half way through Odyssey.
This has made me realise that you hardly ever see people calling for more Infamous games*, like you do for e.g. Syphon Filter, Sly Cooper, Motorstorm, and others.
I thought Second Son was a really well made game, if a bit forgettable. I guess lots of people felt the same.
@Col_McCafferty "walking things back" is the other phrase du jour. Used to be called reversing a decision !
The one that really gets on my nerves is "day and date" , which just means on the same day.
@thefourfoldroot yes the ability to resell is the disc's trump card, I do accept that. We'll never have digital reselling, how would that even work? Maybe the ability to surrender your license for a partial refund? Can't see the platform holders going for it though. Eventually I can see the gaming market move to a purely digital and subscription based model anyway. TV and music is very close to that already.
@UnlimitedSevens a solid majority of disc games on sale for the two current generation will be unplayable or highly inferior once the servers go down anyway. Many need always online connection, and almost all rely on day 1 patches to work properly/ acceptably/ at their best. Only a small minority get fully patched reprints.
Many late releases rely on the latest console firmware being in place too, and the servers to provide that to the console you've had in your loft for 20 years (with a broken /corrupted hard drive by then) certainly won't be online.
And that's not even to mention that a huge chunk of games are focussed on online multiplayer anyway, where long term disc archival is useless.
There's no HDD space saving with discs from PS4 onwards , and broadband speeds are good enough to the extent that downloads aren't an issue.
Ultimately, discs are just physical, tradable licenses with nice artwork, these days. (Don't get me wrong, I do enjoy my PS1 to PS4 disc collections, if only for future nostalgia.)
When I realised all this I decided to take the plunge and go full digital for PS5 onwards. Embrace our new overlords.
And then rely on online "archivists" when we fancy a game of Grand Theft Auto V in 2046 and the ol' PS4 and its servers are resigned to history.
I can't see the point of pre GTA V remasters , the core joy of them was the freedom. The freedom has been done so much better in GTA V and RDR2. The old ones are painfully dated, even GTA IV. Unless they come up with full on Remakes of course.
Remake using the RDR2 engine is a no brainer. 60%+ of the map is already done! Plus it must be possible to port much of the animals, vehicles, people, assets and their animation straight from RDR2.
Just add some wrinkles to RDR2 Marston. They don't even need to re-record the original voice acting either, surely? Assuming the quality is good enough.
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Re: PS5, PS4 Users Are Still the Biggest W*nkers in Gaming
Who on earth is looking up Pikachu porn? I...live a sheltered life.
Re: Soapbox: I Think I'm Over Trophies
I like using them as sign posting to help make sure I've done pretty much everything in a game I love. But they have no intrinsic value whatsoever.
Re: Death Stranding Director's Cut: How to Transfer PS4 Save File to PS5
@somnambulance yes they could have just copied the approach from Ghost of Tsushima and had the PS5 version recognise PS4 saves. Surely not that complicated to implement.
I don't have an Xbox but it does seem they have the edge over Sony on this type of thing.
Re: Death Stranding Director's Cut: How to Transfer PS4 Save File to PS5
@somnambulance thanks for the answer! I also sold my PS4 and bought a DE PS5 , so their advice would apply to me too. The annoying thing is that the PS4 version is not on sale, while the PS5 Director's Cut is. At least I'll be able to upgrade to the PS5 DC after, but it's so annoying that you don't get both versions if you buy the PS5 version..
They should've given you a refund, that's also poor.
I agree on Death Stranding though, an amazing game that hits heights of immersion and emotional connection that I don't think I've ever had in another video game.
Re: Death Stranding Director's Cut: How to Transfer PS4 Save File to PS5
@somnambulance did anyone find the answer to this? Looks like you have to buy the digital PS4 version i reckon
Re: Talking Point: What Were the Best PS5, PS4 Hidden Gems of 2021?
Very useful, thanks guys
Re: Best PS3 Games
@ShogunRok any plans to do a Playstation (PS1) list? That'd be fun.
Re: Soapbox: Please Don't Let GTA 4 Rot on PS3, Rockstar
Plus any game with walk-in stand up comedy is good in my book.
Re: Soapbox: Please Don't Let GTA 4 Rot on PS3, Rockstar
Bring the shooting controls and wallowing car physics upto at least GTA V standards, clean up the murky lighting and we're onto a winner.
I'd still prefer a Red Dead Redemption remaster in the RDR2 engine (at 60fps) first though.
Re: Best GTA Games
I played the original at launch and thought it was awesome fun, if far too difficult.
I then played GTA 3, 4, VC and 5 all circa 2016-2018, and found that GTA5 blew them all out of the water in every way, though 4 has a great story. I do appreciate that the 3D trilogy were revolutionary at the time, but without nostalgia they are clunky frustrating games to play. Perhaps the remasters will solve that.
Re: Mafia: Definitive Edition Joins PS Now Along with Final Fantasy IX, Celeste
Just bought Mafia for £20 😭
Re: Riders Republic (PS5) - Try-Hard Extreme Sports Sandbox Is a Technical Feat
Seven out of Ten Soft churn out another one
Re: The Original Tomb Raider Celebrates 25th Anniversary
I had all the original, first three games on the PlayStation. Found them very difficult as a teenager, needed a guide to get through them. Very impressive and iconic games though.
Re: The Original Tomb Raider Celebrates 25th Anniversary
@Rob_230 I totally agree, in fact I prefer the recent TR Trilogy to Uncharted. More depth to the combat and platforming, better level design, loads of puzzles. Uncharted wins on story and set pieces though.
Re: The Uncharted Movie Trailer Is Finally Here
They've managed to make Uncharted look really boring. Both Sully and Nathan are far too young as well.
Re: You Can Now Upgrade Your PS4 Copy of Quake to PS5, and It's Free
@SoulChimera I also just put my Sega Saturn Quake disc into my PS5 and it didn't run or even give me the PS4 version for free. What IS the world coming to?
Re: PS4 Games That Need a PS5 Patch
In fact what we REALLY need is a patched Red Dead Redemption 2 , with a massive expansion that recreates the original Red Dead Redemption in the RDR2 map and engine, plus perhaps a few missions to knit together the two games. Would be phenomenal.
Re: PS4 Games That Need a PS5 Patch
Red Dead 2 definitely needs 60fps. I booted it up on the PS5 the other day, but it now feels desperately sluggish compared to the likes of the patched HZD and Days Gone
Also patch in the faster item pick-up from Red Dead Online.
Re: Poll: Are You Happy With Your PS Plus Games for October 2021?
@jessehill181 you can add PS5 games to the library even if you don't own a PS5, I've done it with several, you can do it via the app for example
Re: Poll: Are You Happy With Your PS Plus Games for October 2021?
Nothing against these games, at least there's a good variety.
But I do miss them giving out less mainstream indie titles with PS Plus. That seemed to stop a couple of years ago.
Re: Horizon Zero Dawn Patch 1.54 Fixes Crashing Issues on PS5
Have replayed this lately on PS5 and am well into Frozen Wilds too. It just looks stunning, and the 60fps makes a world of difference. Really love this game.
Reported 1 crash the other day, perhaps it helped.
Re: Feature: Assassin's Creed Valhalla Season Pass Review - Is It Worth Buying?
Ain't nobody got time for that.
Rule of thumb: never buy a season pass until you've finished the main game.
I just get burned out by most big games and rarely fancy returning.
Re: Poll: Do You Want Even More PS5 Marvel Games from Sony?
Nope, not interested in the slightest. Spider-Man is a fantastically well made game, but the story was instantly forgettable.
Re: Reaction: PlayStation Showcase 2021 Was Good, But Not Good Enough
I can tell the voice acting on Forspoken is going to really annoy me! It just looks like an Infamous game set in the desert.
Re: Horizon Forbidden West Will Now Offer Free PS4 to PS5 Upgrade, Sony Confirms
Any news on why they are still charging £60 for PS4 + PS5, but £70 for PS5 only? Just looks like they're trying to overcharge the unsuspecting.
Re: Death Stranding Director's Cut Has a Launch Trailer Full of Spoilers
Watched it this morning and I also thought it was a bit spoilertastic, if totally nonsensical for people that haven't played the game. Loads of important scenes casually included.
Re: Assassin's Creed Valhalla Update 1.031 Out Now on PS5, PS4, Patch Notes are Huge
What's the general consensus on this game? Is there a pay off from the massive time sink? I like the look of the locations.
Must admit I got bored before half way through Odyssey.
Re: There's a Dicey inFAMOUS PS5 Rumour Doing the Rounds
This has made me realise that you hardly ever see people calling for more Infamous games*, like you do for e.g. Syphon Filter, Sly Cooper, Motorstorm, and others.
I thought Second Son was a really well made game, if a bit forgettable. I guess lots of people felt the same.
(* Same for the Killzone series too.)
Re: Feature: Our PS5, PS4 Predictions for PlayStation Showcase 2021
@fR_eeBritney Dino Crisis is ripe for a Remake. But that's a Capcom thing to announce though, no?
Re: Feature: Our PS5, PS4 Predictions for PlayStation Showcase 2021
Something completely new from Naughty Dog please.
Not just a new Factions and not just another remaster/Remake.
Plus Death Stranding 2 with loads more walking. (Honestly)
Re: Soapbox: I Don't Know How to Feel About This PS4-to-PS5 Upgrade Uproar
@KingPev yep, immediate long term prison sentence for "double dip", as a minimum.
Re: Mini Review: F.I.S.T.: Forged In Shadow Torch (PS5) - Awesome Metroidvania Punches Above Its Weight
I love a punchy (pun intended), short positive review. Will stick this on the wishlist.
Re: Rumour: PS Now Adding Final Fantasy 7, Moonlighter, More in September
I'm all for PS Now being used to host copious indie games. They're time efficient and give the opportunity to try new genres and ideas.
Re: Soapbox: I Don't Know How to Feel About This PS4-to-PS5 Upgrade Uproar
@Col_McCafferty "walking things back" is the other phrase du jour. Used to be called reversing a decision !
The one that really gets on my nerves is "day and date" , which just means on the same day.
There's a "lot to unpack"
(Punches self in face)
Re: Soapbox: I Don't Know How to Feel About This PS4-to-PS5 Upgrade Uproar
Do fashion forums contain infinite pages of people arguing about whether a pair of Levi's or Nikes should cost £60 or £70?
Gamers are a pedantic bunch, that's for sure.
Re: Horizon Forbidden West Will Now Offer Free PS4 to PS5 Upgrade, Sony Confirms
So are they dropping the PS5 game price to £60? Bit mental if not.
Re: Poll: Are You Happy With Your PS Plus Games for September 2021?
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Re: PS Now Adding Five Final Fantasy Games Over Coming Months
Nice to have them on the service. But the chance of me ever having time make a dent in even one of them is 0.0001%
Re: Horizon Forbidden West PS5, PS4 Pre-Orders Live Now, Special Editions Detailed
@Thomas98 fair enough. Buy what makes you happy.
And that's why it's impossible to please all gamers! Some moaning about a £10 price difference, others happy to blow £200+ on frivolous extras.
Re: Horizon Forbidden West PS5, PS4 Pre-Orders Live Now, Special Editions Detailed
@KnightRider1982 so Game will be charging £259.99 plus £4.99 postage. Happy days.
Re: Horizon Forbidden West PS5, PS4 Pre-Orders Live Now, Special Editions Detailed
@Thomas98 it'll no doubt limp onto the clunky Game website in a few days priced at a billion pounds.
Re: Horizon Forbidden West PS5, PS4 Pre-Orders Live Now, Special Editions Detailed
Who's selling the physical editions in the UK then?
Re: Sony Will Make You Pay Extra to Upgrade Horizon Forbidden West from PS4 to PS5
A collector's edition with a voucher code is just awful.
Re: Sony Will Make You Pay Extra to Upgrade Horizon Forbidden West from PS4 to PS5
First party AAA PS4 games are £60 RRP, PS5 games are £70. That's all there is to it. If that's too much (it is) then let's just wait for a sale.
Re: PS Store Essential Picks Sale Houses Many PS5, PS4 Game Deals
@thefourfoldroot yes the ability to resell is the disc's trump card, I do accept that. We'll never have digital reselling, how would that even work? Maybe the ability to surrender your license for a partial refund? Can't see the platform holders going for it though.
Eventually I can see the gaming market move to a purely digital and subscription based model anyway. TV and music is very close to that already.
Re: PS Store Essential Picks Sale Houses Many PS5, PS4 Game Deals
@UnlimitedSevens a solid majority of disc games on sale for the two current generation will be unplayable or highly inferior once the servers go down anyway. Many need always online connection, and almost all rely on day 1 patches to work properly/ acceptably/ at their best. Only a small minority get fully patched reprints.
Many late releases rely on the latest console firmware being in place too, and the servers to provide that to the console you've had in your loft for 20 years (with a broken /corrupted hard drive by then) certainly won't be online.
And that's not even to mention that a huge chunk of games are focussed on online multiplayer anyway, where long term disc archival is useless.
There's no HDD space saving with discs from PS4 onwards , and broadband speeds are good enough to the extent that downloads aren't an issue.
Ultimately, discs are just physical, tradable licenses with nice artwork, these days. (Don't get me wrong, I do enjoy my PS1 to PS4 disc collections, if only for future nostalgia.)
When I realised all this I decided to take the plunge and go full digital for PS5 onwards. Embrace our new overlords.
And then rely on online "archivists" when we fancy a game of Grand Theft Auto V in 2046 and the ol' PS4 and its servers are resigned to history.
Re: Death Stranding Details What Its PS5 Director's Cut Offers
I wonder if you can play the new missions having finished the game already, or if you have to start from the beginning
Re: PS5, PS4 Playtime Website Encounters Turbulence As Sony Bans Accounts
Ah no, that's a shame . Definitely more accurate than Sony's own stats as well.
Re: Rumour: Red Dead Redemption Remaster Planned, But Could Depend on GTA Success
I can't see the point of pre GTA V remasters , the core joy of them was the freedom. The freedom has been done so much better in GTA V and RDR2. The old ones are painfully dated, even GTA IV. Unless they come up with full on Remakes of course.
Re: Rumour: Red Dead Redemption Remaster Planned, But Could Depend on GTA Success
Remake using the RDR2 engine is a no brainer. 60%+ of the map is already done! Plus it must be possible to port much of the animals, vehicles, people, assets and their animation straight from RDR2.
Just add some wrinkles to RDR2 Marston. They don't even need to re-record the original voice acting either, surely? Assuming the quality is good enough.
Make it happen Rockstar.