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@Kidfunkadelic83 it's 6pm on launch day, most of us havent had time yet mate

Preordered and paid over a year ago. But wouldn't be buying now if I hadn't. Would be waiting for a sale probably, so much backlog to play.

Thanks for sharing Push Square.

Wish I had some videos of this type from my childhood. Would pay a fortune for footage of my mates and me playing a Sensible Soccer tournament on the Mega Drive.

I add everything to the library, probably end up properly playing about 2-3 of them a year.
I'm most thankful for the family games it's given, like Overcooked and Sonic. Had a few joyful sessions with the kids on games I wouldn't have bought otherwise.

@get2sammyb great point. It's top value for a teenager who can get Plus for Xmas then a guaranteed 24+ titles in the coming year for <£50. Would've loved that back in the days of £39.99 to buy (the awesome) Streets of Rage.

There's been 28 games with PS Plus in 2020, certainly plenty (actually 32 if you consider two are trilogies). So if you only use Plus for your games, that's a very decent return for your subscription, even at the full price of £50. That said, while I mainly use Plus for the online backup and occasional online multiplayer, as a subscriber to Now and EA Play, I've not had an especially great year of Plus games for various reasons. Here they are listed out, highlighting duplications:

Uncharted: The Nathan Drake Collection - PS Now PS3
Goat Simulator
BioShock: The Collection-- PS Now PS3
The Sims 4
Firewall Zero Hour
Shadow of the Colossus - PS Now PS3
Sonic Forces
Uncharted 4: A Thief's End
DiRT Rally 2.0
Cities Skylines
Farming Simulator 19
Call of Duty: WWII
Star Wars Battlefront 2 - EA Play
Rise of the Tomb Raider
NBA 2K20
Erica
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2
Fall Guys
PlayerUnknown's Battlegrounds - PS Now
Street Fighter V- PS Now
Need for Speed: Payback - EA Play
Vampyr - PS Now
Bugsnax (PS5)
Hollow Knight-- PS Now
Middle-earth: Shadow of War - PS Now
Worms Rumble
Just Cause 4 - Left PS Now in October 20
Rocket Arena - EA Play

So that's 5 on Now at the time of release to Plus, but also:

1 that had only just left Now in Just Cause)
3 (or 7) that have PS3 versions on PS Now.
3 that are also on EA Play

So there were actually 12/28 that weren't fresh to me as a subscriber to all 3 available services. (not counting about 5 I already owned, but that's my own fault!). The period Sept to Nov was particularly bad for the duplication as well.

Sony won't ever please everyone with the Plus games, but I do think they should be more careful to avoid duplication between services if they want to maximise retention and take up.

@LiamCroft it is an annoyance when games on PS Now pop up on PS Plus. If you're looking forward to a couple of new games, then they give you stuff you've already got in Now (or EA Play!) , it's a bit disappointing. We'll all survive though. Forum comments always sound more dramatic than they'd be in real life.

To my mind, the bigger problem that Sony have with Now is that a massive chunk of the customer base still think it is a streaming-only service. That feels worth an article and poll to gauge awareness, maybe?

Edit: see the comment right below this one for evidence!

@Wormold Comparing the streamed PS3 games to PS5 @60fps+, 4k is never going to be a fair comparison, streamed or otherwise. Yes they'll look very dated.

(almost?) All PS4 games are downloadable on PS Now so the requirement to stream isn't an issue for the PS4 titles.

@Muttt if you're talking two digital versions then I don't know. But the disc Complete Edition version does not work with the digital Complete edition. So, I'd not be confident that the standard disc version saves are compatible with any digital version.

@Kyevo8814 Darksiders and Broforce were on Plus but Wreckfest hasn't been. A rare case of a game I'd like to play and don't own appearing on Plus or Now, in fact!

The constant duplication between the two services is poor though, I agree.

Horizon Zero Dawn is not on PS Now, at least not any more

Edit: this comment has not aged well

Don't forget you can use the accurate and reliable PS Time Tracker service

https://ps-timetracker.com/

@pharos_haven I hadn't played the first two and enjoyed Exodus just fine. There is a very short story recap at the start anyway. I suspect there are characters and references to the first two that I missed but I still followed the story and enjoyed it.

Really enjoyed my playthrough on the PS4 Pro. So atmospheric, and other than ridiculous load times it performed fine. The graphics are already great, especially within eerily lit enclosed spaces, so it'll be incredible on next gen consoles.

PS Now Game? Check
(worthless) EA Play game? Check

It's like clockwork now. Rubbish to be honest.

When the smeg is this getting announced then?

It needs a fix for the colour, lighting and contrast settings. I just couldn't get it looking right on my Pro. My TV isn't HDR but apparently those settings are the source of the troubles for many others

In lieu of a PS5 and/or Miles Morales I decided to play City that Never Sleeps last week on my trusty Pro . Is it me or have the PS4 Pro loading times dropped since last year? It's really quick to get from the title screen to the action, and I'm fairly sure the subway rides are shorter.

The remote-bricking solution would indeed stop someone else using it and is a good idea in theory. But it wouldn't stop thieves, they'd just sell it on and let the over-paying end customer suffer. Then delete their eBay account.

Just flogged my PS4 copy to CEX for a tiny loss of £5. It's just too ropey to be enjoyable atm, even on the Pro.

A shame, as the story was starting to get interesting.

But the colour, lighting and overall visuals were infuriatingly bad. Characters faces went from red to grey to orange between scenes. Out of cutscenes, the characters have PS3 level graphics. Scenery popping in. Water like something on the PS3. The landscape just the wrong colour, sometimes looking almost cel shaded.

How they managed such a technical downgrade from the gorgeous (if boring) Odyssey I cannot understand.
I tried all sorts of settings on the console and within game and couldn't get it settled at all.

Might rebuy when it's on sale and patched up.

A couple of old games that are already on PS Now

Just gonna sit here and work on my disgraceful PS4 backlog and let everyone else fight over the next gen consoles til well into next year!

@LiamCroft it was totally possible to avoid it, agreed. But the fact they knew their game was too long and decided to charge extra to relieve the grind was sheer cheek.
It should've just been built into the Easy difficulty setting or something.

It was the payment for an XP boost to make Odyssey's grind bearable that was the annoyance. Is that making a reappearance?

No, the PS4 titles are already on PS Now and Bugsnax is no use to me. Nothing wrong with the games though.

Is Neil concerned about Ubisoft's comments? Coz I'm VERY concerned about Ubisoft's comments

#brentbyaccident

@JohnKarnes PS4 titles and cross gen games are likely to be the norm for quite a while until a backlog of PS5 exclusives builds up. Not necessarily bad.

Seriously what's the deal with putting PS Now /EA Play games on Plus every single month?
They're cannibalising the value of each badly.
I already have those subs so there's nothing new here, has happened several times this year already.

Push Square surely there's an article to be made on this subject?
@LiamCroft @ShogunRok

@jipiboily I've not played FF7R yet but am having similar problems having just platinumed Death Stranding. Just want to go back to my ziplines 😔

More than a rarity, it's almost unheard nowadays of for a v1.0 version to persist past launch day.
The upside is that the launch discs are a proper archive of a fully playable game.

Also on sale at Simply Games and The Game Collection.

Death Stranding - what a ride. Got the Plat this week. May just be my game of the generation...
An ingenious game about helping instead of killing people. It was just what I needed.

No complaint over the games. But it's 2 more EA Play and PS Now games. Sony need to get cleverer if they want people to stay subscribed to more than PS Plus.

Mafia Trilogy is a surprisingly nice collectors edition with all three discs.

This did come out in North America a few months back through Limited Run Games

@Matroska link to the Crash Toilet Brush pls

@rachetmarvel makes no difference, installed file sizes are the same with or without a disc.

As an offering straight to the budget, digital only /Game Pass market, Series S makes a lot of sense and will sell plenty. 50%+ of the gaming public won't notice the difference between S and X anyway. They just want FIFA, CoD, GTA Online, Fortnite and Lego games.

Really, Xbox are just kicking off the generation with a vanilla and Pro version, rather than launching it mid-gen.

Will it mean the absolute cream of the gaming crop ends up on PS5 in the opening years ? I hope so, but that might not be as profitable for Sony overall.

PS3 still not practical I guess (while keeping the PS5 console cost down) and no profit in getting PS1+2 to work well and supporting them. I do reckon they could patch in some kind of software emulator though. Basic smartphones can run PS1 for heaven's sake.

I'll keep my (refurbished) Fat PS3 for 1, 2, 3 anyway

No chance God of War 2 comes out in 2021. We can dream, but no.

I really this article wasn't scattered with references to "free" games when you obviously have to pay for the service. How about "inclusive"?

@Mostik Daytona USA on the Saturn was a joy to play, it just had to make sacrifices in the graphics. Daytona's all about the music anyway!
NeoGeo was a mystical creature only talked about in hushed tones on the playground. They cost the equivalent of something like £1k with games about £300 in today's money. No wonder they were so special and rare.

@Mostik true, arcade ports of current titles generally disappointed until the mid 90s.

The Saturn also had a few splendid arcade ports around the same time as Tekken et al came to PS1.

Unless you count the NeoGeo, which had arcade perfect titles galore since the early 90s.. (as it was basically an arcade machine...)

I got one in 1998 when they'd stopped making games for my beloved Sega Saturn.

@Iroha the new Xboxes are both under £500, so it's clearly possible

@BNAG_Gamer LOL if Sony are using Microsoft Skype, then their calls are definitely getting tapped

Peaky Blinders is an absolutely brilliant series, one of my faves of all time. I'm not usually into this genre, and the game sounds mediocre, but I'm still tempted. D'oh.

The list is missing Dragon Age inquisition, it is in the "vault"

Will all depend on how well it plays, and upgrades, PS4 titles. If it's a big improvement it's an early buy. Otherwise I'll wait a year or two.

It's still £19.99 on UK store.