I'm playing my ps3 atm because my ps5 is basically a waste of time and money. The catalog on the ps3 store is sooo much better than these new tiers. You can get a ps3 with a ton of games for around 100 euro on ebay which is way better than wasting time on these god awful subscriptions. Just my opinion
I strongly recommend if someone sees a game they are interested in on sale, google it first and see if there are better deals on other storefronts. That's what I usually do and it's worked out really well. A lot of times the games are much cheaper on Amazon and the likes
@NintenGuy I was so unbelievably wrong that all the points I made are invalid. I don't care what some randomer online thinks but thanks anyway, I won't be responding to u again, cheerio 😊
Thirdly, as I mentioned in my comment in this article, how can we trust sales numbers when the game is bundled in with a console and people have no choice but to buy it. It will clearly inflate the numbers. There is no way you can argue with that logic but hey I guess you can try 😉
I wish sales did not count the ps5 bundle. That does not show people's interest as many people could have bought it just for the ps5. It makes the chart meaningless tbh
Now this is a perfect game for a remake and the difference is staggering between the 2 versions. Unlike a certain other game getting a remake this year which is basically a waste of the developers time.
As a person who has completed ff7 too many times to count I'm ok with them going in a different direction this time. It's really cool how sephiroth knows he loses in the original game and wants to change his fate
Wow.. they really knocked it out of the park with this showcase. Crisis core was amazing, the story I still sometimes watch in movie form on YouTube. Cannot wait for this
@naruball a few months? Tlou2 didn't come out a few months ago. They could have been spending this time creating a new IP not rehashing a previous game that most people have already played and at full price. It's lazy and if you and others think otherwise then that's why they will keep getting away with it, congrats
This is clearly pandering to new players and non playstation owners also which is a worrying direction Sony are taking. What's the point in owning a playstation when all our "exclusives" are going to be basically timed exclusives. They are forgetting why people buy playstations instead of a PC or whatever.
Legacy playstation owners who have been loyal for years are an after thought now, which I presume is a lot of people on this site.
I'll be speaking with my wallet anyway and hopefully others unhappy with this direction do the same
This is just boring. A ten year old game slightly updated selling at a premium. Naughty dog are lazy and couldn't be bothered to come up with a new game or even a sequel or something. Sad times when people are praising this drek
@OrtadragoonX I disagree, I mean we're not talking about some outdated game, it still holds up just fine today. Of course part 2 will improve gameplay wise but I really don't understand why you cant play the first one because it's not the exact same as part 2.
Again I think leaving it alone will be better for games in general as other games will be released like this if it's successful which will stagnate the market
This is just so so lazy. I hope it flops because it'll open the floodgates to 'remakes' being brought out for games just a few years old.
Our society is truly becoming creatively bankrupt in both movies and games. I honestly can't understand how someone would pay full price again for a game they already own but slightly updated
Any games that take your fancy from these sales I would definitely advise to Google them and compare prices from other sources. I got both red dead 2 and shin megami tensei 3 for under 35 euro. I think shin megami was over 35 by itself on psn
We should not be accepting 'oh they'll make it better later' ' they're only starting out'. They ask us for our money on day one and that seems to be acceptable to some Sony apologists on here. Accepting half baked efforts is why we keep getting half baked efforts
For me all these little extra features were secondary, don't really care about trophies or if something is pal or not.
The main concern was what games were being released and how many. In this regard it's a complete failure for me. The ps2 lineup is especially bad but the ps1 and PSP are alse severely lacking
It's clear that the majority of people won't spend money on these games but with live service Sony will be catering to the minority, aka whales. A few Whales can spend more than thousands of normies.
Sony knows the majority of people don't want live service or won't spend on it. They are fishing for whales and will be catering to that minority to the detriment of everyone else.
There's some really interesting documentaries about this but just to give a rough estimate, 95% of income earned in these type of games is spent by about 1% of players
It's very hard to do with some games but for the vast majority, especially these 'live service' games, it's better to wait probably a year after they release to buy them. Pretty much every game now is released incomplete and in need of multiple patches. If you buy it on day one there's a huge chance the game is dead within a few months ie. Anthem
Glad I waited and didn't stack any subscriptions. The ps1 PSP and ps2 games were going to be the main draw for me and from this list it's only a handful of games which is shocking. And before anyone says 'it's not a complete list', Sony could have provided a more complete list bus as usual their communication is awful so I will go by the information we have.
Having so few classics at the start is concerning though, definitely not a good start
@AdamNovice from your profile pic you're clearly a fanboy so there's no point in reasoning with u. There have been many articles claiming Sony are unhappy with it's sales numbers, I'll leave it at that
@AdamNovice to be fair the only reason it's selling well now is because it's in a bundle, I've seen many stories about Sony keeping it's sales numbers hush hush because they are not happy with them. If elden ring was part of the bundle majority of people would choose it over hfw. Hfws story is so cringe
This is laughably bad. Most games listed here were giveaways on ps plus over the years and most ps2 games we have already got access to from the ps store so we would have purchased any we were interested in already. I'm hoping this 'teaser' is just the tip of the iceberg because they ain't gonna get many takers with this drek
Not really excited for anything coming out really, maybe ff16 but there's a chance that could release an unfinished mess like 15.
Like others I'm really disappointed in the lack of ps5 exclusives. Feel like I've wasted my money and paid for what's basically a performance upgrade for most new games.
This is fine, nothing here to take my attention away from elden ring and my backlog for the next couple of months. Unless stranger of paradise goes on sale 🤞
@Mikey856 well I haven't played it. I've played HZD and GoW, I'm presuming HFW can't be too much different from it's predecessor. Got bored if both of them within hours. Generic open world checklist, repetitive fetch quests, terrible story. Ghost of Tsushima was far better than both. I'm just worried sony will lean too heavily into these IPs as I've no interest in them and a lot of others feel the same
Very excited to hear this, but If they release half a game like 15 I'll be really annoyed. First time I played 15 at release the story was so hard to follow and get invested in, I played it again last year with all the dlc and it was so much better, what it should have been at launch.
16 is the only reason I'm happy to keep my ps5 for now, couldn't care less about the overhyped HFW and GoW. They aren't that good and not worth being the flagship exclusives
These sales charts always have around 5 if the same games constantly. Why do people keep buying the same games over and over, year on year? I'm looking at you, switch users
@OrtadragoonX completely agree, I'm busy too. Of course I understand the appeal of it but a lot of fear of losing in these older games was having to repeat sequences and that will be ruined if save points become obsolete. It's definitely subjective though so I know where you're coming from
I'm loving the Final fantasy 7 new threat mod. Any fans of the original game I would highly recommend trying it out. So many changes to the gameplay and story.
Surprised save states are so popular with people. A lot of retro games were not designed to have states so this feature would break the gameplay loop in a lot of older games
I couldn't care less about the release date until I know what games. It's like saying a movie is coming out on a certain date but not knowing what the movie is, madness...
@GADG3Tx87 I agree, I am not happy with the direction they are going in. Completely understand it's subjective and some people like it but it's not for me.
I've been contemplating getting a series x too and just go through their exclusives as I haven't played most of them
Sony are losing my respect more and more every day. Next there will be ads on the ps5 home screen. Its sad what's happened in gaming within the last 15 years. Microtransactions, season pass, on disc dlc, free to play, loot boxes, nfts and now ads are going to be the next money making scheme. This won't be restricted to free to play forever, it's just them testing the waters. How far we have fallen from the glory days of the 90s-2000s
Never could get it into GoW or horizon for that matter. Now it seems Sony is leaning heavily into these IPs and making live services a bigger priority. Really starting to regret buying a ps5
I've always loved the digimon games ever since digimon world on the ps1. Digimon world next order was amazing although admittedly not for everyone. I'm hoping they bring some of the digimon world elements to digimon survive 🤞
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Re: Poll: Which PS Plus Tier Are You Subscribed To?
I'm playing my ps3 atm because my ps5 is basically a waste of time and money. The catalog on the ps3 store is sooo much better than these new tiers. You can get a ps3 with a ton of games for around 100 euro on ebay which is way better than wasting time on these god awful subscriptions. Just my opinion
Re: PS Store Mid-Year Deals Sale Includes 600+ PS5, PS4 Game Discounts
I strongly recommend if someone sees a game they are interested in on sale, google it first and see if there are better deals on other storefronts. That's what I usually do and it's worked out really well. A lot of times the games are much cheaper on Amazon and the likes
Re: UK Sales Charts: Horizon Forbidden West Back on Top, 95% of Copies Sold Were PS5
@Flaming_Kaiser dude I was wrong, I didn't mean to say Sony came out and said it. I admit I was wrong in that. Anything else you want me to say?
Re: UK Sales Charts: Horizon Forbidden West Back on Top, 95% of Copies Sold Were PS5
@NintenGuy I was so unbelievably wrong that all the points I made are invalid. I don't care what some randomer online thinks but thanks anyway, I won't be responding to u again, cheerio 😊
Re: UK Sales Charts: Horizon Forbidden West Back on Top, 95% of Copies Sold Were PS5
@NintenGuy first of all, get a life.
Secondly, Sony are not going to come right out and say they were disappointed, but here's an article that shows a steep drop off in sales
https://www.sportskeeda.com/esports/sales-number-elden-ring-proves-horizon-forbidden-west-developer-wrong-latter-s-sales-fall-80
Thirdly, as I mentioned in my comment in this article, how can we trust sales numbers when the game is bundled in with a console and people have no choice but to buy it. It will clearly inflate the numbers. There is no way you can argue with that logic but hey I guess you can try 😉
Re: UK Sales Charts: Horizon Forbidden West Back on Top, 95% of Copies Sold Were PS5
I wish sales did not count the ps5 bundle. That does not show people's interest as many people could have bought it just for the ps5. It makes the chart meaningless tbh
Re: Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII Reunion's PS5, PS4 Remaster Is Jaw Dropping
Now this is a perfect game for a remake and the difference is staggering between the 2 versions. Unlike a certain other game getting a remake this year which is basically a waste of the developers time.
Can't wait to get this
Re: Final Fantasy VII Rebirth Is Remake 2, PS5 Exclusive, Out Winter 2023
As a person who has completed ff7 too many times to count I'm ok with them going in a different direction this time. It's really cool how sephiroth knows he loses in the original game and wants to change his fate
Re: PSP's Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII Remastered for PS5, PS4 This Year
Wow.. they really knocked it out of the park with this showcase. Crisis core was amazing, the story I still sometimes watch in movie form on YouTube. Cannot wait for this
Re: The Last of Us: Part I Compares Tess on PS5 vs. PS3 Model, and the Results Are Impressive
@naruball a few months? Tlou2 didn't come out a few months ago. They could have been spending this time creating a new IP not rehashing a previous game that most people have already played and at full price. It's lazy and if you and others think otherwise then that's why they will keep getting away with it, congrats
Re: The Last of Us: Part I Compares Tess on PS5 vs. PS3 Model, and the Results Are Impressive
This is clearly pandering to new players and non playstation owners also which is a worrying direction Sony are taking. What's the point in owning a playstation when all our "exclusives" are going to be basically timed exclusives. They are forgetting why people buy playstations instead of a PC or whatever.
Legacy playstation owners who have been loyal for years are an after thought now, which I presume is a lot of people on this site.
I'll be speaking with my wallet anyway and hopefully others unhappy with this direction do the same
Re: The Last of Us: Part I Compares Tess on PS5 vs. PS3 Model, and the Results Are Impressive
This is just boring. A ten year old game slightly updated selling at a premium. Naughty dog are lazy and couldn't be bothered to come up with a new game or even a sequel or something. Sad times when people are praising this drek
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 430
I'm back to the PS3 and starting the ratchet and clank trilogy. Haven't played them since they released so it's like playing them new again.
I don't know why I bought a ps5, nothing Sony has coming up interests me at all
Re: Sony Leaks The Last of Us: Part I for PS5, Launching 2nd September
@OrtadragoonX I disagree, I mean we're not talking about some outdated game, it still holds up just fine today. Of course part 2 will improve gameplay wise but I really don't understand why you cant play the first one because it's not the exact same as part 2.
Again I think leaving it alone will be better for games in general as other games will be released like this if it's successful which will stagnate the market
Re: Sony Leaks The Last of Us: Part I for PS5, Launching 2nd September
This is just so so lazy. I hope it flops because it'll open the floodgates to 'remakes' being brought out for games just a few years old.
Our society is truly becoming creatively bankrupt in both movies and games. I honestly can't understand how someone would pay full price again for a game they already own but slightly updated
Re: Days of Play 2022: The Best Discounts on PS5, PS4 Games and Accessories
Any games that take your fancy from these sales I would definitely advise to Google them and compare prices from other sources. I got both red dead 2 and shin megami tensei 3 for under 35 euro. I think shin megami was over 35 by itself on psn
Re: Deliver Us Mars Out for PS5, PS4 in September with a PS Plus Discount
I can't wait for the day we don't see "out on ps5, ps4" on these headlines.
Every game like this is hamstrung by 10 year old hardware
Re: Sony Patches Band-Aid into PS Plus' PS1 Games, As Emulation Is Taken to Task
We should not be accepting 'oh they'll make it better later' ' they're only starting out'. They ask us for our money on day one and that seems to be acceptable to some Sony apologists on here. Accepting half baked efforts is why we keep getting half baked efforts
Re: Around 20% of Sony's Output Could Be Mobile by 2025
Well it looks like the ps5 is my last Sony console. Regret buying it more and more every week tbh seeing where they're priorities lie
Re: First PS1 on PS5, PS4 Analysis Drops, And There Are Highs and Lows
For me all these little extra features were secondary, don't really care about trophies or if something is pal or not.
The main concern was what games were being released and how many. In this regard it's a complete failure for me. The ps2 lineup is especially bad but the ps1 and PSP are alse severely lacking
Re: More Than Half of PlayStation's Investment Could Be in Live Service Games by 2025
It's clear that the majority of people won't spend money on these games but with live service Sony will be catering to the minority, aka whales. A few Whales can spend more than thousands of normies.
Sony knows the majority of people don't want live service or won't spend on it. They are fishing for whales and will be catering to that minority to the detriment of everyone else.
There's some really interesting documentaries about this but just to give a rough estimate, 95% of income earned in these type of games is spent by about 1% of players
Re: Battlefield 2042 Ceases Development of Hazard Zone Content
It's very hard to do with some games but for the vast majority, especially these 'live service' games, it's better to wait probably a year after they release to buy them. Pretty much every game now is released incomplete and in need of multiple patches. If you buy it on day one there's a huge chance the game is dead within a few months ie. Anthem
Re: PS Plus Games for Asia Officially Confirmed
Glad I waited and didn't stack any subscriptions. The ps1 PSP and ps2 games were going to be the main draw for me and from this list it's only a handful of games which is shocking. And before anyone says 'it's not a complete list', Sony could have provided a more complete list bus as usual their communication is awful so I will go by the information we have.
Having so few classics at the start is concerning though, definitely not a good start
Re: UK Sales Charts: Horizon Forbidden West on Top with New PS5 Bundle
@AdamNovice from your profile pic you're clearly a fanboy so there's no point in reasoning with u. There have been many articles claiming Sony are unhappy with it's sales numbers, I'll leave it at that
Re: UK Sales Charts: Horizon Forbidden West on Top with New PS5 Bundle
It's sales numbers being so bad is probably why it's being included in a bundle
Re: UK Sales Charts: Horizon Forbidden West on Top with New PS5 Bundle
@AdamNovice to be fair the only reason it's selling well now is because it's in a bundle, I've seen many stories about Sony keeping it's sales numbers hush hush because they are not happy with them. If elden ring was part of the bundle majority of people would choose it over hfw. Hfws story is so cringe
Re: Sonic Frontiers Is Aiming for High Review Scores, Says SEGA
@lolwhatno that's a good point. Your comment is Much more insightful than the content of this article 😂
Re: Sonic Frontiers Is Aiming for High Review Scores, Says SEGA
In other news, the sky is blue and water is wet
Re: Sony Shares First Look at PS Plus Extra, Premium Games
This is laughably bad. Most games listed here were giveaways on ps plus over the years and most ps2 games we have already got access to from the ps store so we would have purchased any we were interested in already. I'm hoping this 'teaser' is just the tip of the iceberg because they ain't gonna get many takers with this drek
Re: Feature: What's Next for PS5, PS4?
Not really excited for anything coming out really, maybe ff16 but there's a chance that could release an unfinished mess like 15.
Like others I'm really disappointed in the lack of ps5 exclusives. Feel like I've wasted my money and paid for what's basically a performance upgrade for most new games.
Re: Upcoming PS5, PS4 Games for May and June 2022
This is fine, nothing here to take my attention away from elden ring and my backlog for the next couple of months. Unless stranger of paradise goes on sale 🤞
Re: Poll: Are You Happy with Your PS Plus Games for May 2022?
It's a pretty good selection to be fair. Just gutted I bought fifa a couple months ago. Best month of this year so far
Re: Test Your PlayStation General Knowledge - Issue 8
How is the bullseye not a sniper rifle 😂
Re: Rejoice! Final Fantasy 16 in 'Final Stretch' of Development, Says Producer
@Mikey856 well I haven't played it. I've played HZD and GoW, I'm presuming HFW can't be too much different from it's predecessor. Got bored if both of them within hours. Generic open world checklist, repetitive fetch quests, terrible story. Ghost of Tsushima was far better than both. I'm just worried sony will lean too heavily into these IPs as I've no interest in them and a lot of others feel the same
Re: Rejoice! Final Fantasy 16 in 'Final Stretch' of Development, Says Producer
Very excited to hear this, but If they release half a game like 15 I'll be really annoyed. First time I played 15 at release the story was so hard to follow and get invested in, I played it again last year with all the dlc and it was so much better, what it should have been at launch.
16 is the only reason I'm happy to keep my ps5 for now, couldn't care less about the overhyped HFW and GoW. They aren't that good and not worth being the flagship exclusives
Re: Beloved Classics Will Comprise PS Plus Premium Catalogue
Ahhh beloved classics, so still no new info then. What an anti consumer joke
Re: UK Sales Charts: Gran Turismo 7 Falls Behind While LEGO Star Wars' Reign Continues
These sales charts always have around 5 if the same games constantly. Why do people keep buying the same games over and over, year on year? I'm looking at you, switch users
Re: Poll: What Do You Expect from Retro PlayStation Games on PS5, PS4?
@OrtadragoonX completely agree, I'm busy too. Of course I understand the appeal of it but a lot of fear of losing in these older games was having to repeat sequences and that will be ruined if save points become obsolete. It's definitely subjective though so I know where you're coming from
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 423
I'm loving the Final fantasy 7 new threat mod. Any fans of the original game I would highly recommend trying it out. So many changes to the gameplay and story.
Re: Poll: What Do You Expect from Retro PlayStation Games on PS5, PS4?
Surprised save states are so popular with people. A lot of retro games were not designed to have states so this feature would break the gameplay loop in a lot of older games
Re: PS Plus Extra, Premium Release Dates Shared By Sony
I couldn't care less about the release date until I know what games. It's like saying a movie is coming out on a certain date but not knowing what the movie is, madness...
Re: Sony Experimenting with Ads in Free-to-Play PS5, PS4 Games
@GADG3Tx87 I agree, I am not happy with the direction they are going in. Completely understand it's subjective and some people like it but it's not for me.
I've been contemplating getting a series x too and just go through their exclusives as I haven't played most of them
Re: Sony Experimenting with Ads in Free-to-Play PS5, PS4 Games
Sony are losing my respect more and more every day. Next there will be ads on the ps5 home screen.
Its sad what's happened in gaming within the last 15 years. Microtransactions, season pass, on disc dlc, free to play, loot boxes, nfts and now ads are going to be the next money making scheme. This won't be restricted to free to play forever, it's just them testing the waters.
How far we have fallen from the glory days of the 90s-2000s
Re: Poll: As God of War Turns Four, What Would You Rate It Today?
Never could get it into GoW or horizon for that matter. Now it seems Sony is leaning heavily into these IPs and making live services a bigger priority. Really starting to regret buying a ps5
Re: Digimon Survive Finally Releases This July... In Japan
I've always loved the digimon games ever since digimon world on the ps1. Digimon world next order was amazing although admittedly not for everyone. I'm hoping they bring some of the digimon world elements to digimon survive 🤞
Re: Best Co-Op Games on PS5
@JosephTheSheik I know right, I just assumed it would since I played through III on local so this list has saved me a purchase.
Re: Best Co-Op Games on PS5
@Quintumply I must thank you though since I was about to purchase diablo 2 to play couch co op with my gf. Can't believe it doesn't have local
Re: Best Co-Op Games on PS5
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