At least Sony has 10 years to build a proper FPS IP. Not saying that it will match COD, but they definitely need to have at least one.
Still to soon to know if Concord will be that IP, but the moment Druckmann said that the Half Life series were a huge inspiration within Naughty Dog, I would have give a big investiment into the studio to see them making an FPS in the near future.
@Ravix - The theory that Sony hide stuff is amazing, to be honest. Folks simply can't believe that Sony wasn't ready to show most of their stuff (even more now that said they plan to reveal stuff much closer to release).
People really need to get used to that. We'll get some years VERY light in terms of announcements and releases coming from Sony.
@OrtadragoonX - The funny part is that people choose to forget Druckmann importance on the much loved Uncharted series, where he worked as game designer, co-writer and creative director.
@pharos_haven - Sony was in the fight to buy FOX with money that nobody knows where it would come from. Sony definitely has they ways to make big moves, the question is whether they really want it or not.
High possibility that Sony believes that things will not change that much, even with MS buying two of the biggest publishers of the industry.
@OrtadragoonX - Raf Grassetti (former Santa Monica Art Director) confirmed in a podcast last week that most of the budget goes to the first half of a game, because they have numbers showing that more than half of the people who play a game end up dropping it halfway through.
And to be honest, studios are not much to blame for this matter since if a game comes out with average graphics or if it has less than 20 hours of content nowadays it is automatically garbage.
It reminded me of an interview with the Remedy devs saying that they had to change a lot in Alan Wake II (when compared to the first one) because the public today doesn't accept linear games that don't offer much in the replay factor and only have with 5~8 hours of story.
Sorry but the Xbox showcase didn't show anything to suggest that Sony needs change any part of its strategy. Does anyone really believe that the Xbox will start to outsell the PS5 for several months straight because of this showcase?
I expected (and hoped) that Microsoft would be even more aggressive this year, because Sony needs to get out of its comfort zone. But it gives me the impression that the PlayStation brand has really reached that Apple/iPhone level where even if they don't do anything very relevant for a while, it's not going to change anything in the big picture.
lol, Bungie said the game was bad and Sony pretty much gave it up.
Difficult years lie ahead for PlayStation. At least it looks like they're seeing the bombs before they're dropped, but but lack of new games in a regular basis will for sure impact them.
Sony clearly doesn't have enough staff (studios) to do banger showcases year after year in the current state of game development (where games take 5 or 6 years to make). Just do one every three years and that's it. If you have a single first party reveal to be made, just do an exclusive State Of Play to it (or leave it to Keighley events).
It was more than clear that the vast majority of Sony's studios weren't ready to show anything, even more now that they went with the "reveal close to launch" aproach... And yet, people still kept hyping.
I don't mind waiting 2 or 3 years to see the next batch of first party games, but when it's time to show off, go nuclear.
Sucks but it happens. Sony already canned much bigger games before (wasn't Santa Monica making its own third person Destiny-style game before "rebooting" God Of War?)
But I believe it proves even more that Sony still needs more studios, because you can't rely so much on third party content going forward.
Makes sense to buy new studios to tackle live service games while most of the OG studios continue to work on single player games. Sony definitely needs to find that gold live service mine if it wants to keep its buissness strategy going forward.
Folks need to understand that these blockbusters single player game are only going to get more expensive to make, and at some point each game is going to have to sell an insane amount of units to pay for itself. If Sony has one or two games that make some of the success of games like Genshin or Fortnite, it will already help a lot financially.
@__jamiie - Sony is trying to emulate that PS1/2 era of hardware and accessories. Tom Henderson mentioned in his article that Sony plans to release five new PS5 pieces of hardware by 2025:
@Fiendish-Beaver @Godot25 - Naughty Dog confirmed that they're able to produce multiple games at the same time now. If the next game is a new IP (and it's already in full production), I bet that there's a smaller team already working on TLOU3 if that's on the plans.
I mean, last time ND presented a new IP was 10 years ago. It's already time for something new... Part III can arrive at the end of the generation in 2027/28.
I do wonder how many publishers Microsoft will need to acquire to catch up with PlayStation, since it's clearly not fair how things were going in the least few years.
If Activision/Blizz doesn't turn them into the market leader, what the next excuse will be? It not fair that Sony has Santa Monica, Naughty Dog and other major studios?
Anyway, even as a daily Call Of Duty player, better Act/Blizz than Square, Capcom or any other publisher that has a longer history with PlayStation the fan base.
Well, I think it's already clear that they will no longer be showing the same game for 3 years in a row, as happened with Ghost Of Tsushima and The Last Of Us 2 and they don't have enough studios to reveal multiple first party games per year.
SIE is still five or six studios (or a publisher) away from being able to have a annual pipeline of announcements. With the studios that Sony has now, it's going to be the way it is now. Some years will be full of announcements, others not so much.
I think this was already pretty much confirmed when they showed the new controller (which has fewer buttons than the old PS Move). Requiring the Moves and the old camera just for BC wouldn't be very smart either.
But it's ridiculous how bad PR Sony is. Instead of simply making the excuse of "that technology is too old", they should have said something like: "PSVR games won't work right away but we are working with developers to release new ports or patches"
It's sad that the franchise has kind of become the Star Wars of video games. Who likes it is dumb and who doesn't is a hater.
And reading some reviews, it looks like this is going the Sony/PlayStation side as well with some almost saying it's a crime for Sony to charge what they want for this game and that's clear that Sony only cares about money now.
As much as I love the franchise (1 and Part 2 are some of my favorite games), Naughty Dog needs to leave the IP for other media for a while after Factions release (which for sure will generate a whole new discussion) and focus on new things.
But there's no denying that it's funny that this only happens with video games. It would be interesting to see people complaining that they should pay less when a movie is re-released in theaters or when it goes from one format to another (DVD to Bluray, for example)
It's the DIRT 5 crossplay (only for faster matchmaking) or the GRID Legends cross-play (people can actually create parties and custom races with friends)?
The PlayStation software engineering team must consist of a maximum of 2 or 3 people. It's the only explanation for features taking so long to add. Apart from the fact that Sony consoles only have 2 major firmware updates per year.
The fact that Greg Miller (pretty much) never does that is interesting. He always comments on other people's rumors, but it's very rare for him to claim he's heard anything himself.
Anyway, I think Capcom would be a much better buy, but you can't deny that Final Fantasy is huge for the PlayStation brand
We're living in crazy times where things good end consumers is something to be suspicious of because it can generate more work for those who make the games.
I think we need to start asking car manufacturers to stop making safety belts and ABS, it is a lot of work for those who are on the assembly line.
I really think it's time for massive changes at Polyphony. Since GT5 (some would argue that's since GT4) the company has gone downhill.
As much as the core/gameplay of the games are good, this is not enough to have a good game these days. Polyphony took 5 years to make GT7 and the game still came out with little content when compared to PS1 and PS2 games. It's time for Sony to bring someone who wants to make a game, not just random software that has cars.
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Re: June 2023 Circana: PS5 Posts Best PlayStation Results in 15 Years
Kind of funny that these numbers debunk a good part of the fan boy "discussions" this year:
Re: Twisted Metal Duo Add PS5, PS4 Platinum Trophies
@Ken_Kaniff - That alone would reduce the number of third party games coming to the service/platform.
Re: Sony and Microsoft Sign a 'Binding Agreement' to Keep Call of Duty on PlayStation
At least Sony has 10 years to build a proper FPS IP. Not saying that it will match COD, but they definitely need to have at least one.
Still to soon to know if Concord will be that IP, but the moment Druckmann said that the Half Life series were a huge inspiration within Naughty Dog, I would have give a big investiment into the studio to see them making an FPS in the near future.
Re: Sony and Microsoft Sign a 'Binding Agreement' to Keep Call of Duty on PlayStation
@Ravix - The theory that Sony hide stuff is amazing, to be honest. Folks simply can't believe that Sony wasn't ready to show most of their stuff (even more now that said they plan to reveal stuff much closer to release).
People really need to get used to that. We'll get some years VERY light in terms of announcements and releases coming from Sony.
Re: PlayStation's Rhythm RPG Sensation Patapon Primed for Spiritual Successor
The fact that they are doing it through Kickstarter shows that not only Sony didn't have interest, but pretty much everybody else as well.
Re: Naughty Dog Co-President Evan Wells Announces His Retirement
@OrtadragoonX - The funny part is that people choose to forget Druckmann importance on the much loved Uncharted series, where he worked as game designer, co-writer and creative director.
Re: Microsoft Beats US Regulator FTC in Activision Blizzard Buyout Battle
@pharos_haven - Sony was in the fight to buy FOX with money that nobody knows where it would come from. Sony definitely has they ways to make big moves, the question is whether they really want it or not.
High possibility that Sony believes that things will not change that much, even with MS buying two of the biggest publishers of the industry.
Re: Microsoft Beats US Regulator FTC in Activision Blizzard Buyout Battle
@DeathlySW - The more reliable outcome for this from Sony: They greenlit more 5 live service games to see if they can finally find their own Fortnite.
Re: Microsoft Beats US Regulator FTC in Activision Blizzard Buyout Battle
Good for the industry. Hopefully it forces Sony to finally a buy a publisher or two as well. Or Sony is not allowed to compete?
Re: EA Sports FC Reportedly Set for 29th September Release
I'll be interested if they finally add cross-play in Pro Clubs.
Re: Sorry, But Games Are Probably Going to Take Longer Than Ever to Make on PS5
@OrtadragoonX - Raf Grassetti (former Santa Monica Art Director) confirmed in a podcast last week that most of the budget goes to the first half of a game, because they have numbers showing that more than half of the people who play a game end up dropping it halfway through.
Re: Sorry, But Games Are Probably Going to Take Longer Than Ever to Make on PS5
And to be honest, studios are not much to blame for this matter since if a game comes out with average graphics or if it has less than 20 hours of content nowadays it is automatically garbage.
It reminded me of an interview with the Remedy devs saying that they had to change a lot in Alan Wake II (when compared to the first one) because the public today doesn't accept linear games that don't offer much in the replay factor and only have with 5~8 hours of story.
Re: Reaction: Solid Xbox Showcase Should Give Sony Some Incentive to Stop Being So Damn Cloak and Daggers About PS5, PS4
Sorry but the Xbox showcase didn't show anything to suggest that Sony needs change any part of its strategy. Does anyone really believe that the Xbox will start to outsell the PS5 for several months straight because of this showcase?
I expected (and hoped) that Microsoft would be even more aggressive this year, because Sony needs to get out of its comfort zone. But it gives me the impression that the PlayStation brand has really reached that Apple/iPhone level where even if they don't do anything very relevant for a while, it's not going to change anything in the big picture.
Re: Naughty Dog Needs More Time for The Last of Us Multiplayer, Also Working on Brand New PS5 Single Player Game
lol, Bungie said the game was bad and Sony pretty much gave it up.
Difficult years lie ahead for PlayStation. At least it looks like they're seeing the bombs before they're dropped, but but lack of new games in a regular basis will for sure impact them.
Re: Sony Announces PlayStation AirPods with Lossless Audio and Low Latency
Lossless is kinda a big thing for earbuds, isn't it?
Re: Reaction: Sony Flubs First Proper PS5 Presentation in Over 18 Months
Sony clearly doesn't have enough staff (studios) to do banger showcases year after year in the current state of game development (where games take 5 or 6 years to make). Just do one every three years and that's it. If you have a single first party reveal to be made, just do an exclusive State Of Play to it (or leave it to Keighley events).
It was more than clear that the vast majority of Sony's studios weren't ready to show anything, even more now that they went with the "reveal close to launch" aproach... And yet, people still kept hyping.
I don't mind waiting 2 or 3 years to see the next batch of first party games, but when it's time to show off, go nuclear.
Re: Claims of Co-Op in Spider-Man 2 Shot Down by Insomniac
So coop means live service to most of people right now?
Re: Deviation Games' PS5 Exclusive Project Doesn't Appear to Be Progressing Well
Sucks but it happens. Sony already canned much bigger games before (wasn't Santa Monica making its own third person Destiny-style game before "rebooting" God Of War?)
But I believe it proves even more that Sony still needs more studios, because you can't rely so much on third party content going forward.
Re: Concrete Genie Developer PixelOpus Is Shutting Down
I guess they weren't making a live service game then.
Re: Marvel's Spider-Man Remastered Finally Gets Standalone Release on PS5
By the way, if you want it but don't have the PS4 version, it can be bought for 20 bucks through Miles Morales on PS Plus Extra.
Re: 38.4 Million PS5 Systems Sold as Sony Records Its Best Q4 Results
It's kinda funny to see PlayStation breaking record after record but the same old japanese journalist insists on saying that the numbers are not good.
Re: Sony Acquires Firewalk Studios, New Team Behind Innovative Multiplayer IP
Makes sense to buy new studios to tackle live service games while most of the OG studios continue to work on single player games. Sony definitely needs to find that gold live service mine if it wants to keep its buissness strategy going forward.
Folks need to understand that these blockbusters single player game are only going to get more expensive to make, and at some point each game is going to have to sell an insane amount of units to pay for itself. If Sony has one or two games that make some of the success of games like Genshin or Fortnite, it will already help a lot financially.
Re: Rumour: PS Vita 2 Dreams Killed But Sony Might Have a 'Cloud-Streaming Handheld' in the Works
@__jamiie - Sony is trying to emulate that PS1/2 era of hardware and accessories. Tom Henderson mentioned in his article that Sony plans to release five new PS5 pieces of hardware by 2025:
Re: Rumour: PS Vita 2 Dreams Killed But Sony Might Have a 'Cloud-Streaming Handheld' in the Works
Henderson said it's a accessory/companion solely for Remote Play, no cloud streaming without the console.
And to be honest, makes way more sense for Sony than a Steam Deck copy. No native ports required, no storage cards, no testing and so on.
Re: The Last of Us' Naughty Dog Already Working on Next PS5 Exclusive
@Fiendish-Beaver @Godot25 - Naughty Dog confirmed that they're able to produce multiple games at the same time now. If the next game is a new IP (and it's already in full production), I bet that there's a smaller team already working on TLOU3 if that's on the plans.
Re: The Last of Us' Naughty Dog Already Working on Next PS5 Exclusive
I mean, last time ND presented a new IP was 10 years ago. It's already time for something new... Part III can arrive at the end of the generation in 2027/28.
Re: Discord: How to Connect to PS5 and Transfer Voice Chat
Just a headsup that Discord audio can't be captured in video clips or be streamed in broadcasts, like the normal PS5 parties.
I hope it's something that they "fix" in the future.
Re: Sony Must Share Details of Exclusivity Deals with Microsoft in FTC's Court Hearing
I do wonder how many publishers Microsoft will need to acquire to catch up with PlayStation, since it's clearly not fair how things were going in the least few years.
If Activision/Blizz doesn't turn them into the market leader, what the next excuse will be? It not fair that Sony has Santa Monica, Naughty Dog and other major studios?
Anyway, even as a daily Call Of Duty player, better Act/Blizz than Square, Capcom or any other publisher that has a longer history with PlayStation the fan base.
Re: Reaction: Sony Continues to Fumble the State of Play Format
Well, I think it's already clear that they will no longer be showing the same game for 3 years in a row, as happened with Ghost Of Tsushima and The Last Of Us 2 and they don't have enough studios to reveal multiple first party games per year.
SIE is still five or six studios (or a publisher) away from being able to have a annual pipeline of announcements. With the studios that Sony has now, it's going to be the way it is now. Some years will be full of announcements, others not so much.
Re: State of Play Confirmed for Thursday with PSVR2, Indies, Third-Party Games, and Suicide Squad
No real reason to show Spider-Man 2 on this one since it will probably open or close their rumored "big showcase" at the E3 season.
The Horizon Expansion on the other hand, needs to be shown asap.
Re: Naughty Dog to Partner with PSS Visual Arts for Unannounced AAA Title
Could be the "Uncharted" studio as Sony already tried to put Bend on that IP again and they refused.
Re: Rumour: Massive GTA 6 Leak Posts 90 Videos Online
@RiceC03 0 Half Life 2 had a huge leak back in the day as well (one so big that Valve delayed the game to rework a lot of stuff)
Re: PSVR2 Isn't Backwards Compatible with PSVR Games, Sony Confirms
I think this was already pretty much confirmed when they showed the new controller (which has fewer buttons than the old PS Move). Requiring the Moves and the old camera just for BC wouldn't be very smart either.
But it's ridiculous how bad PR Sony is. Instead of simply making the excuse of "that technology is too old", they should have said something like: "PSVR games won't work right away but we are working with developers to release new ports or patches"
Re: The Last of Us: Part I (PS5) - A Better, More Beautiful Remake of a Modern Classic
It's sad that the franchise has kind of become the Star Wars of video games. Who likes it is dumb and who doesn't is a hater.
And reading some reviews, it looks like this is going the Sony/PlayStation side as well with some almost saying it's a crime for Sony to charge what they want for this game and that's clear that Sony only cares about money now.
As much as I love the franchise (1 and Part 2 are some of my favorite games), Naughty Dog needs to leave the IP for other media for a while after Factions release (which for sure will generate a whole new discussion) and focus on new things.
But there's no denying that it's funny that this only happens with video games. It would be interesting to see people complaining that they should pay less when a movie is re-released in theaters or when it goes from one format to another (DVD to Bluray, for example)
Re: PS5 Price Increase Confirmed for UK, Europe, Japan, Canada, and More
Sony must be run by Chino Moreno at this point, because no other company in the market is this tone deaf.
Re: Ten Tantalising Seconds of PS5's Helldivers Sequel Allegedly Leak
@Beerheadgamer82 - The second one is rumored the be in third person
Re: F1 22 Cross-Play Support Arrives Later This Month
It's the DIRT 5 crossplay (only for faster matchmaking) or the GRID Legends cross-play (people can actually create parties and custom races with friends)?
Re: PS5 Folders, 1440p Support Part of New Beta Update Out Today
@Relygon - It seems that 1440p with VRR is not supported by HDMI. Sony would need to implement full AMD FreeSync support on the OS to enable that.
(hence there's no monitor with 1440p without FreeSync or gSync in the market)
Re: PS5, PS4 Pipped to the Discord Punch Despite Investment and Partnership
The PlayStation software engineering team must consist of a maximum of 2 or 3 people. It's the only explanation for features taking so long to add. Apart from the fact that Sony consoles only have 2 major firmware updates per year.
Re: Prominent Leaker Teases Impending God of War Ragnarok PS5, PS4 Reveals
He probably works on/for YouTube, as others already mentioned.
Re: Standalone The Last of Us Multiplayer One of Naughty Dog's Biggest Ever Efforts
Looks like a Battle Royale is in (and they would be quite dumb to not include that since it fits the setting).
Re: PS Plus Extra, Premium Games Will Be Playable Offline, But Will Require Weekly Validation
Seems fair, it's the same timeframe as NSO
Re: 'Multiple Sources' Said Sony Is Buying Square Enix, Allegedly
The fact that Greg Miller (pretty much) never does that is interesting. He always comments on other people's rumors, but it's very rare for him to claim he's heard anything himself.
Anyway, I think Capcom would be a much better buy, but you can't deny that Final Fantasy is huge for the PlayStation brand
Re: Rumour: PS5, PS4 Games Over $34 Must Have PS Plus Premium Two-Hour Trials
We're living in crazy times where things good end consumers is something to be suspicious of because it can generate more work for those who make the games.
I think we need to start asking car manufacturers to stop making safety belts and ABS, it is a lot of work for those who are on the assembly line.
Re: Rumour: PS Plus PS5, PS4 Games for April 2022 Leaked Early
No Horizon Forbidden West, Elden Ring and Gran Turismo 7? Trash month!
Re: New PS5 Firmware Update Available Now, Overhauls Parties, Lets You Pin Games, Much More
I really don't know how themes would work since each game takes the whole screen with their own "backgrounds"
Re: Gran Turismo 7 PS5, PS4 Review Bombed After Challenging Week
I really think it's time for massive changes at Polyphony. Since GT5 (some would argue that's since GT4) the company has gone downhill.
As much as the core/gameplay of the games are good, this is not enough to have a good game these days. Polyphony took 5 years to make GT7 and the game still came out with little content when compared to PS1 and PS2 games. It's time for Sony to bring someone who wants to make a game, not just random software that has cars.
Re: Latest PS5 Firmware Update Is Available to Download Now
These "stability" updates probably always add something in the background, but Sony doesn't enable them until a later date.
The screenshot upload to PS App probably came in one of those without any alarm.
Re: PS5, PS4's Revamped PS Plus Sub Allegedly Outlined in Report
By the way, what people really expected from this since Sony already stated that Day 1 First pARTY releases on a service isn't a thing to them.
Re: PS5, PS4's Revamped PS Plus Sub Allegedly Outlined in Report
Sony shouldn't make any changes to their services. Anything they do that doesn't match Game Pass will be treated as a failure by everyone.