InvaderJim

Will never buy a ubisoft game again if that happens, even if more expensive I will always buy a product that's not Chinese or made in China if possible, or not at all if no alternative is available.

If you want to whine at anyone do it to the Sony leadership because this is their model for everything now, milk the gamer for all they are worth. They have been doing it for ages and because keep buying these they will keep doing it. Mockery of the for the gamers slogan.

@riceNpea what would be really impressive is if you could hear their knees clicking as they walked by, maybe with 3d audio.

The exclusives for PS for next 12 months not that great either, maybe 2 games I'll buy and one is a remake.

Everything else is multiplatform so may as well get a Series X with gamepass for all that as well as the choice to play what ever else I fancy.

You know the the most important question people will have is will have new trophies 😄

We don't need this and it fits Sony's current model of milking everything and taking advantage of gamers.

Because I can't help it I have to get it, playing that game with that engine with updated gameplay from 2 is just too tempting.

@KayOL77 don't think their investors mind one bit when game pass is generating constant revenue which keeps growing each quarter, and not forgetting gamepass subscribers spend 50% more in the Xbox store than none subscribers.

This is a wait and see, but in its current form not worth it at all and terribly implemented. As with most things currently MS doing it better simply because they are making better decisions and not trying to squeeze ever dollar they can out of their fan base.

MS though is also far smarter than Sony with things like subscriptions and currently also a lot more gamer friendly than Sony is which is frankly just abusing loyalty of its gaming base now as shown by recent decisions. MS wouldn't have removed account stacking or removed and of the things that would help gamers save money that Sony has done because they know that actually drives more subscriptions like with the 1£ gamepass trick that they know about.

Gow and thats it they need a lot more because the way Sony execs are driving things it's not hard to see why MS is doing so well ATM.

So much for "for the players" Sony is all about milking it's player base for as much money as possible now.

Hopefully they all now get made with the newer more robust internals that 3 newer colours have.

@4kgk2 pointless comparison since most of the people that play Forza didn't have to buy it..

@middyone pretty much all the people I know that played ER also played or are going to get and play HFW as well.

Strange how they have days gone in the banner like it's important to them but have already killed the series off?

Only thing GOT is number one for is boring repetitive gameplay.

GTA5 will be back once the the free period for the online runs out.

GT7 is just more proof that Sony leadership believe they can do what ever because people will blindly buy their products. Should now be "For the Share Holders"

Practice of company that knows it can do what ever because people will keep buying their stuff. Hiding the transactions to get good reviews to sell games is very shady, so much for the For the Players, its now For the Share Holders.

@get2sammyb info about needing a TV with 48Gbps should be changed since the PS5 is likely never likely to ever output at that rate, pretty sure its still capped at 32Gbps.

Look forward to seeing GTAV in the PS5 list from next month....

The ElecGear PS5 NVMe SSD Heatsink is also supposed to be pretty good, available on amazon.

Was still thinking about trying it but was unsure because not fan of past games, I tied it at my friends place to see if open world etc would change my mind, much more enjoyable than the last games but I didn't realise the games performance was that bad, so will give a miss until they fix it or the PS5 gets VRR.

"experience the joy that comes from overcoming hardship" no thanks, games are a escape from real world that has enough hardship in daily life etc.

@Matroska Luck of the draw sometimes with bugs, example you hit bugs while I've got over 30 hours in HFW with out a single issue here, been perfect and rock solid FPS as well.

Not had any issues, rock solid frame rate even in very busy fights like what DF reported, not seen or notices any pop in either. Only issue I had was I tried to get over a wall to area not yet open and managed to get stuck.

@Jacko11 tip from one of the other was turn off the motion blur before you got to photo mode helps.

Might try it later on but still not sure I'd enjoy based on dloodbourne which I didn't like at all.

If you have prime and haven't claimed it already there are some Valhalla items there you can get, think current items from the dark knight pack.

Nice trailer, still not sure if this is one i'll get, never really gelled with the previous games.

@themightyant the amazon price is pretty good for the launch edition £45.

@OptimistPrime you created an account just to post that nonsense!

@get2sammyb If you get trophy Reach the Daunt before March 25th Sony will plant a real Tree

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhkN3OGYI80

@swagbag7 I think everyone is still waiting for that.

@JustPlainLoco that's called quality over quantity and was Rockstar in their prime.

Not surprised as there is not much else to buy with the ps5 to show what it can do from Sony, with so little choice it's almost a guaranteed purchase with evey ps5 purchase as the sales chart shows. If time ps5 stock drops the game comes back into top 10.

Like the 1st game found I only play it now and again as it's one of those games you play for an hour or 2 before the fun of swinging wears off and the games starts to become a bit tedious from doing the same thing over and over.

Physical Special Edition didn't seem worth it, you are just paying extra for a metal case and a book.

@OneWingedAngel in those 20 years you mention is not also true that a lot of those bigs games from Sony's are from studios they have themselves have purchased like Psygnosis, Guerrilla Games, Sucker Punch, MM, Naughty Dog, Insomniac, Bend Studio, the people that motor storm etc.

£10 to get a better version of a game I own + a game I've never played + free cinema ticket.

They are pointless so who cares.

@Ooccoo_Jr and you get a free ticket for the Uncharted Movie at Cineworld if you upgrade by the 4th Feb. Its a good deal.

@JigsawPieces me to, plus you'll also get a free movie ticket for the Uncharted Movie if you upgrade or buy it before the 3rd Feb.

https://www.playstation.com/en-gb/legal/uncharted-movie-ticket-offer-terms-and-conditions/

@Pixelated what meant was if cod were to go exclusive it would mean Sony would lose revenue from the sales of cod through things like the 30% they take for PSN sales etc, then there is the loss from cod only players that will move and no longer sub for PS+ etc. That loss of revenue will have some impact to Sony.

@Pixelated you might care when it impacts Sony's game development due to the loss of revenue.

@Sushisunbreak 100% spot on. Thinking just buy the PS4 version day one and upgrade, but only worry last few upgrades not been so smooth and what if its not available day one upgrade.

The statement from Ryan about it says -

Last year we made a commitment to deliver free upgrades for our cross-gen launch titles, which included Horizon Forbidden West. While the pandemic’s profound impact pushed Forbidden West out of the launch window we initially envisioned, we will stand by our offer: Players who purchase Horizon Forbidden West on PlayStation 4 will be able to upgrade to the PlayStation 5 version for free.

I also want to confirm today that moving forward, PlayStation first-party exclusive cross-gen titles (newly releasing on PS4 & PS5)–both digital and physical*–will offer a $10 USD digital upgrade option from PS4 to PS5. This will apply to the next God of War and Gran Turismo 7, and any other exclusive cross-gen PS4 & PS5 title published by Sony Interactive Entertainment.

— Jim Ryan, President & CEO, Sony Interactive Entertainment

*To upgrade an eligible PS4 game on disc to the digital PS5 version, you will need a PS5 console with a disc drive. PS4 game discs can’t be used with the PlayStation®5 Digital Edition.

Sure its not ideal but in truth if Activision games were important to me if have would have bought an Xbox with its gamepass it's better option for the multiplatform games.

People have long goaded Xbox of not having enough games so not surprising they did this.

@lolwhatno maybe they held the stock back for end of the year and Christmas and Halo, because before that Series X were more scarce than the PS5.

@lolwhatno they did have a good year end though, and dropped a huge amount of stock that still available now so they still selling systems.

@TooBarFoo gamepass owners are still buying games though and they spend 50% more in the xbox store than none game pass players as well.

Thinks this is more personal preference and also depends on if you like the game or not. If I'm really hooked and enjoying it then time to complete is not really a factor for me.

Much better and enjoyable game to the boring repetitive GoT.

Didn't know they had made a sequel, I did enjoy the 1st game and looks promising so may have to give this a try. 17 years between games!

It also seems switch owners tend to prefer physical over digital, all the people I know with a switch always buy physical. Maybe easier to trade and swap etc?
Sony not exactly got much new for Christmas, while Xbox timed some big launches for Christmas time and are having a great end to year but with gamepass you probably wont see Forza H 5 or Halo in this list.