The biggest thing here is support. The likelihood that people still own PS1 games is fairly small. I consider myself to be a pretty big Sony fan, but my PS1 collection is fairly small.
But if they are able to emulate these games and sell them at an acceptable price (like 20 games for $10) - backward compatibility will be much more worthy of being called a selling point. If it is only available for those who have the discs still, I don't think it actually matters much.
Although it is probably a flaw of mine, I have found that I rarely embrace DLC even if I loved the game.
I loved Bloodborne. I mean... LOVED IT! Couldn't get enough. Platinumed it. I bought the Old Hunters DLC. Never finished it. I bought the complete edition of Fallout 4. Loved it. Platinumed it. Still haven't played the DLC.
However - things like Dishonored (Dishonoured - you're welcome ya Brits) with death of the outsider and Uncharted: Lost Legacy - I completed or platinumed these.
Moral of the story for me - I'd rather have a significant stand alone DLC than several piecemeal offerings.
The only exception in recent history was Spider-Man. But looking back on it, I'm not sure I actually enjoyed the DLC that much... hmm...
PS5 will release with Full support for backward compatable games from PS1-PS4 era.
However, it will not simply be (what you own will be playable)
Basically owning a PS5 and PS plus with PS5 will come with a PSnow sub. That PSnow sub will include the entire digital library of Playstation extending as far back as PS1. There will obviously be some games missing from that lineup - and there may be a price hike to include that... but that is my prediction.
With PS5 on the horizon, I think it would be quite fair at the current price point to offer 1 PS4 game every other month and 1 PS5 game every other month, along with an automatic subscription to PS Now.
Right now they are boasting over 700 games on Now. Give PS Plus subscribers access to Now and then focus on the games you give through the subscription being top tier releases. In this model they would only be giving out 6 PS4 games and 6 Ps5 games a year, enabling them to spend a little more money to developers and get those better games. But it would also open the floodgates to hundreds more games that PS plus subscribers would not have had access to.
I feel like this article should have been posted a week from today. I have personally never played either of them. I have only seen videos of their gameplay. I have heard mixed reviews. So asking me if I am happy with them is... premature?
I mean, don't judge a book by its pushsquare review right?
The message coming out of that E3 (you know which one it was) was that Xbox requires an always connected system that tracks DRM in a new way. Sony said, we are giving you what we always have only better. How did that turn out again?
Xbox is fighting from behind trying to recoup what they lost in their messaging. (btw I still run into non-gamers or non-this gen holders that think Xbox still requires all this)
Google already has a PR problem since they obviously and intentionally spy on people... and now they are going to have an online only always connected streaming game system...
Include PS Now subscription as part of your PS Plus Subscription. If you did that, You could almost go down to 1 game given a month since you have access to hundreds of games - and you can download them too...
@Paranoimia Exactly - I think going to a recommend to not recommend scoring system with various levels in-between, establishes a better system than trying to rank the game. In other words you go from saying - is the game good to saying is the game worth buying.
Some games that are artistically good, are BOOOOORING
@Shepherd_Tallon My point would be that recommending bad games and not recommending good games would lead you to not trust that particular site... which is really the point isn't it. Going to a recommend or not recommend with various levels within that makes the trustability of the particular site so important.
@madcow78 This actually communicates my point. When you go to a system of recommend or not recommend, you start learning who to trust and not to trust. I don't think you really get that with a 1-10 model
What is the point of a review score? Why do them? According to pushsquare it is:
"Our belief has always been that if review scores help you, our audience, decide on whether to purchase a game..."
Which means than a 1-10 ranking system absolutely irrelevant and makes it incredibly difficult to decide what is what.
For instance - A 6/10 is 60% of the points that were achievable. This, in most places of education is a failing grade. In baseball if someone hits 60% of the time, they are an amazing hitter. So what does a 60% mean in the game reviewing world? And how does that accomplish the goal of informing gamers of whether they should purchase or not.
I know there have been some 6/10 games that I have purchased and loved. And 6/10 even on this site isn't that bad of a score... BUT I think it is at best uncertain what a 6/10 means because it is up to the interpreter of that score.
So what if you went to something like the following:
Waste of money Purchase or rent at your own risk Maybe rent it first You should own it eventually Must own it soon Day 1 purchase
What this does is establishes a reputation for pushsquare. Now this is risky, but if I purchase games that you say I should or must own and I love them... I am going to trust that endorsement way more than a ambiguous scoring system.
If you raised a following for PS4 that you are proud of - why not reward those folks by saying - "Hey consolidate by buying this new shiny box. It plays those games and so much more!"
Cross play is great. It should happen. But not with 3 separate networks. The only real way to make this work is if the three got together to form some sort of xbox, nintendo, sony network together. All three companies manage and agree to terms in how it is run and reap a 1/3 share each of the profit from the service. That way you could play Fortnite or others on the cross play network or the PSN (XBL etc) I see this as an addition to PS Plus and Xbox live - There would be a 1 time fee - perhaps even per game - giving you a ticket to play on the cross-play network. This would make sure competition is still necessary in that you still have to produce a quality system and a quality network for your console - but also it allows for cross play where all companies benefit from it.
That is really the only way I see this happening in the near future. At least while there is a clear winner in the market share
@KirbyTheVampire With a name like that I'd expect you to jump right in.
I rarely pre-order. But even if the combat is not polished - I know this developer can write a story. It is a balance of course but a good narrative can cover up many gameplay flaws.
That is why The order was only so so - average gameplay and the story was... also average.
All I got out of it is that the presentation will be more focused this year on a handful of exclusives to PS4. In other words - if you came here looking for big time 3rd party reveals... this is not the show you're looking for.
EDIT: After reading the other article about 3rd parties and indies being there... Count me confused also
I have long beleived that we would see the divide between PC and console diminish which would eventually culminate in a console that could be upgraded. This would extend the life of the console - and if you do it right - you can make it simple even for non-computer-literate people. "Simply plug this $100 part into your system and double your graphical capabilities. Need a better wifi adapter? Spend $50, plug it into this port and away you go. More ram -insert here for $80." etc. This could extend the life of the console into the double digits of years.
I own both already - but seriously the first three months of PS Plus 2018 has surpassed all previous months since its inception.
Good call to cut off PS3 and vita. It is probably time to do that. Hoping that translates into continued releases like this, network improvements, and VR titles becoming regular PS Plus releases
At this point I have gotten all I really wanted to get from multiplayer.
What do you have for me by the way of Single Player? How bout putting everything that is multiplayer in Arcade with bots?
How bout an Arcade mode that isn't just a one-off battle but has some sort of progression to it - like... Galactic Conquest?
Even getting more heroes isn't a guarantee to get me back into this game. I need something besides the pointless grind to get more so I can grind more...
Give me something I can play for 10 years. LIke I still do with Battlefront 2 2005. Every year I still get that game out and play Galactic Conquest a few times. Give me something like that...
It is obvious through the story writing, even in all the different options in how to deal with it, that the message is that domestic violence is bad. How it is going to lead to more abuse by presenting it as a bad thing is beyond me.
If anything it makes your heart ache for real children that are in this situation today. If anything it is masterfully written to make a sick feeling grow in the pit of your stomach.
If anything it draws us all to the very real and present reality that this level of evil exists in the hearts of men. I won't sermonize from there... but PM me if you want to talk about this last point.
There is literally nothing to gain for Sony offering this. And until that changes it won't happen. And next console generation, if Microsoft is winning then, they will be the ones making up some crap about how they can't do it either. If you tear down the cross-network wall, all that matters is the individual experience on that console, which means market share will go to whatever console is the most powerful... and which one is that right now? Xbox One X.
All fanboyism aside... do people still care about such differences still? In an age where people are playing 8 bit games, on purpose, because they are FUN.
Obviously it looks gorgeous. For the price... it should. But honestly, it isn't a game changer for me, and unless Microsoft starts stepping it up in the only department that matters, Really fun and exclusive gaming experiences, then this is a very expensive box that will sit on store shelves across the world.
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Re: Roller Champions Officially Confirmed for PS4 in Developer Update Video
"The uploader has not made this video available in your country."
Re: PS Plus March 2020 PS4 Games Reveal Is the Service's Most Liked Tweet of All Time
@M1359 @Deadlyblack I still remember playing bloodborne each early morning with my daughter asleep on my chest. She is 5 now. Wow!
Re: PS Plus March 2020 PS4 Games Reveal Is the Service's Most Liked Tweet of All Time
I mean... was it a good month? Sure! Worthy of the most likes the service has every gotten? Eh.
Maybe its Russian bots?
Re: The Last of Us 2 Is Set to Be Naughty Dog's Most Mature Game to Date
Count me out then.
Re: Poll: How Much Does PS5 Backwards Compatibility Matter to You?
The biggest thing here is support. The likelihood that people still own PS1 games is fairly small. I consider myself to be a pretty big Sony fan, but my PS1 collection is fairly small.
But if they are able to emulate these games and sell them at an acceptable price (like 20 games for $10) - backward compatibility will be much more worthy of being called a selling point. If it is only available for those who have the discs still, I don't think it actually matters much.
Re: Control DLC Is Heavily Discounted Before Any Content Is Released
Although it is probably a flaw of mine, I have found that I rarely embrace DLC even if I loved the game.
I loved Bloodborne. I mean... LOVED IT! Couldn't get enough. Platinumed it. I bought the Old Hunters DLC. Never finished it. I bought the complete edition of Fallout 4. Loved it. Platinumed it. Still haven't played the DLC.
However - things like Dishonored (Dishonoured - you're welcome ya Brits) with death of the outsider and Uncharted: Lost Legacy - I completed or platinumed these.
Moral of the story for me - I'd rather have a significant stand alone DLC than several piecemeal offerings.
The only exception in recent history was Spider-Man. But looking back on it, I'm not sure I actually enjoyed the DLC that much... hmm...
Re: Talking Point: What if the PS5 Could Play Games from Every PlayStation Console?
Here is my official prediction.
PS5 will release with Full support for backward compatable games from PS1-PS4 era.
However, it will not simply be (what you own will be playable)
Basically owning a PS5 and PS plus with PS5 will come with a PSnow sub. That PSnow sub will include the entire digital library of Playstation extending as far back as PS1. There will obviously be some games missing from that lineup - and there may be a price hike to include that... but that is my prediction.
Re: PS Now Prices Permanently Dropped Worldwide, Game Rotation to Add New Blockbusters Every Month
Next step is Ps Plus and Ps Now combined into one service for $99.99 or $109.99 a year
Re: PS5 Devkit Design Leaks, Already in Studios' Hands
Is it just me, or does it look like it could possibly include a projector of some kind?
Re: July 2019's PlayStation Plus Games Are Available to Download Now on PS4
@AdamNovice I agree. We live in an entitled age anyway. Looking at you sonic...
This will only fuel the flame.
Announce it, defend it, take your lumps, make it better next time.
Backtracking only makes it worse.
Re: July 2019's PlayStation Plus Games Are Available to Download Now on PS4
@get2sammyb Why didn't they do PES and Detroit. Seemed like everyone was kind - meh on PES and NO!!! on HCT. Ah well.
Re: July 2019's PlayStation Plus Games Are Available to Download Now on PS4
@ILoveVideoGames Same HERE!!! But... I did NOT buy the digital deluxe edition. So maybe I can snag heavy rain too
Re: Talking Point: PlayStation Plus Is in Desperate Need of an Overhaul
With PS5 on the horizon, I think it would be quite fair at the current price point to offer 1 PS4 game every other month and 1 PS5 game every other month, along with an automatic subscription to PS Now.
Right now they are boasting over 700 games on Now. Give PS Plus subscribers access to Now and then focus on the games you give through the subscription being top tier releases. In this model they would only be giving out 6 PS4 games and 6 Ps5 games a year, enabling them to spend a little more money to developers and get those better games. But it would also open the floodgates to hundreds more games that PS plus subscribers would not have had access to.
Re: Poll: Are You Happy with Your PS Plus Games for April 2019?
I feel like this article should have been posted a week from today. I have personally never played either of them. I have only seen videos of their gameplay. I have heard mixed reviews. So asking me if I am happy with them is... premature?
I mean, don't judge a book by its pushsquare review right?
Re: Google Poised to Announce Potential PlayStation Competitor
The message coming out of that E3 (you know which one it was) was that Xbox requires an always connected system that tracks DRM in a new way. Sony said, we are giving you what we always have only better. How did that turn out again?
Xbox is fighting from behind trying to recoup what they lost in their messaging. (btw I still run into non-gamers or non-this gen holders that think Xbox still requires all this)
Google already has a PR problem since they obviously and intentionally spy on people... and now they are going to have an online only always connected streaming game system...
Seems like a bad move to me.
Re: Poll: Do You Feel Ripped Off by PS Plus' Recent Changes?
My other vote for improvement was :
Include PS Now subscription as part of your PS Plus Subscription. If you did that, You could almost go down to 1 game given a month since you have access to hundreds of games - and you can download them too...
Re: Post-Apocalyptic Far Cry Game to Be Announced at The Game Awards 2018
"The uploader has not made this video available in your country."
And I thought we were past all that colony revolution stuff...
Re: Poll: If PSN Name Changes Are Really Happening, Will You Change Yours?
My reason for changing isn't that glorious.
When I created my PSN ID, I didn't realize you could capitalize the letters.
So my username will simply capitalize my first letter.
Re: Poll: Do We Still Need Review Scores?
@Kidfried But it would be better I think if there were more options than just buy or not buy. See my post
Re: Poll: Do We Still Need Review Scores?
@Paranoimia Exactly - I think going to a recommend to not recommend scoring system with various levels in-between, establishes a better system than trying to rank the game. In other words you go from saying - is the game good to saying is the game worth buying.
Some games that are artistically good, are BOOOOORING
Re: Poll: Do We Still Need Review Scores?
@Shepherd_Tallon My point would be that recommending bad games and not recommending good games would lead you to not trust that particular site... which is really the point isn't it. Going to a recommend or not recommend with various levels within that makes the trustability of the particular site so important.
Re: Poll: Do We Still Need Review Scores?
@madcow78 This actually communicates my point. When you go to a system of recommend or not recommend, you start learning who to trust and not to trust. I don't think you really get that with a 1-10 model
Re: Poll: Do We Still Need Review Scores?
What is the point of a review score? Why do them? According to pushsquare it is:
"Our belief has always been that if review scores help you, our audience, decide on whether to purchase a game..."
Which means than a 1-10 ranking system absolutely irrelevant and makes it incredibly difficult to decide what is what.
For instance - A 6/10 is 60% of the points that were achievable. This, in most places of education is a failing grade. In baseball if someone hits 60% of the time, they are an amazing hitter. So what does a 60% mean in the game reviewing world? And how does that accomplish the goal of informing gamers of whether they should purchase or not.
I know there have been some 6/10 games that I have purchased and loved. And 6/10 even on this site isn't that bad of a score... BUT I think it is at best uncertain what a 6/10 means because it is up to the interpreter of that score.
So what if you went to something like the following:
Waste of money
Purchase or rent at your own risk
Maybe rent it first
You should own it eventually
Must own it soon
Day 1 purchase
What this does is establishes a reputation for pushsquare. Now this is risky, but if I purchase games that you say I should or must own and I love them... I am going to trust that endorsement way more than a ambiguous scoring system.
Re: PlayStation Plus September 2018 Games Announced
@RogerRoger @Ralizah Fair enough. To each their own. Better luck next month then.
Re: PlayStation Plus September 2018 Games Announced
Amazing month.
Re: PlayStation Plus September 2018 Games Announced
@Ralizah are you joking? Or do you own them all?
Re: Feature: The Promising PS4 Games of August 2018
Strange Brigade was top on my list, till I found out the co-op wasn't couch... online only
what year is it?
Re: Sony: We Haven't Forgotten Why the PS4 Was Successful
@sanderson72 This seems like a no brainer to me.
If you raised a following for PS4 that you are proud of - why not reward those folks by saying - "Hey consolidate by buying this new shiny box. It plays those games and so much more!"
Re: Ratchet & Clank's PS4 Remake Is Insomniac's Most Successful Ever Game
So... the lesson is.
Make another dang R&C game so I can give you my money...
Re: Talking Point: How Much Does Cross-Play Matter to You?
Cross play is great. It should happen. But not with 3 separate networks. The only real way to make this work is if the three got together to form some sort of xbox, nintendo, sony network together. All three companies manage and agree to terms in how it is run and reap a 1/3 share each of the profit from the service. That way you could play Fortnite or others on the cross play network or the PSN (XBL etc) I see this as an addition to PS Plus and Xbox live - There would be a 1 time fee - perhaps even per game - giving you a ticket to play on the cross-play network. This would make sure competition is still necessary in that you still have to produce a quality system and a quality network for your console - but also it allows for cross play where all companies benefit from it.
That is really the only way I see this happening in the near future. At least while there is a clear winner in the market share
Re: Sony's Days of Play Offer Begins Today With Huge PS Store Sale
For all my fellow colony dwellers - US store has not updated yet.
Re: E3 2018: Avalanche Studios Announces Generation Zero for PS4
@MattSilverado I was thinking the exact same thing. Glad I read the comments before trying to steal your thunder
Re: Feature: The Promising PS4 Games of June 2018
@BAMozzy That is true. I absolutely loved The Order: 1886. It was only average, but cool. But I only paid $10 for it
Re: Feature: The Promising PS4 Games of June 2018
@BAMozzy Some of the best games i've played have been sale buys. Good luck!
Re: Feature: The Promising PS4 Games of June 2018
@BAMozzy $47.99 on amazon if you are a prime member. (NA obviously - not sure about across the pond)
Re: Moody Action RPG Vampyr Goes Gold Ahead of Release Next Month
@KirbyTheVampire With a name like that I'd expect you to jump right in.
I rarely pre-order. But even if the combat is not polished - I know this developer can write a story. It is a balance of course but a good narrative can cover up many gameplay flaws.
That is why The order was only so so - average gameplay and the story was... also average.
Re: Moody Action RPG Vampyr Goes Gold Ahead of Release Next Month
If you are a prime member (NA) there is a coupon for pre-ordering. Currently price is $47.99
Re: Moody Action RPG Vampyr Goes Gold Ahead of Release Next Month
@jdv95 uh... ehem... vampyrs
Re: Live Audience Will Be Present for Sony's E3 2018 Showcase
All I got out of it is that the presentation will be more focused this year on a handful of exclusives to PS4. In other words - if you came here looking for big time 3rd party reveals... this is not the show you're looking for.
EDIT: After reading the other article about 3rd parties and indies being there... Count me confused also
Re: Rumour: Alleged PlayStation 5 Details Make Their Way Online
I have long beleived that we would see the divide between PC and console diminish which would eventually culminate in a console that could be upgraded. This would extend the life of the console - and if you do it right - you can make it simple even for non-computer-literate people. "Simply plug this $100 part into your system and double your graphical capabilities. Need a better wifi adapter? Spend $50, plug it into this port and away you go. More ram -insert here for $80." etc. This could extend the life of the console into the double digits of years.
Re: PS4's TV and Video Interface Revamped in the United States
Before to scroll to Netflix I simply had to push down and press X. Now I have to press X - wait 3 seconds and then push X again. My life is unchanged.
I wouldn't say this makes my life easier.
Re: Injustice 2 Legendary Edition Bundles All DLC, Launches in March on PS4
So how is this different than the Ultimate edition? Darkseid? Is that it? A $6 character they are offering for (probably) $60
Just discount the ultimate pack to $20 for me and I'll purchase that and Darkseid.
Re: Detroit: Become Human Makes Difficult Decisions on 25th May
Well
Between this and Vampyre I have a feeling I am going to be a nervous wreck. All these digital lives hanging in the balance.
Re: March PlayStation Plus Games Announced
What no monster hunter world? C'mon Sony
J/K
I own both already - but seriously the first three months of PS Plus 2018 has surpassed all previous months since its inception.
Good call to cut off PS3 and vita. It is probably time to do that. Hoping that translates into continued releases like this, network improvements, and VR titles becoming regular PS Plus releases
Re: Star Wars Battlefront 2 Progression System Will Receive an Overhaul
At this point I have gotten all I really wanted to get from multiplayer.
What do you have for me by the way of Single Player? How bout putting everything that is multiplayer in Arcade with bots?
How bout an Arcade mode that isn't just a one-off battle but has some sort of progression to it - like... Galactic Conquest?
Even getting more heroes isn't a guarantee to get me back into this game. I need something besides the pointless grind to get more so I can grind more...
Give me something I can play for 10 years. LIke I still do with Battlefront 2 2005. Every year I still get that game out and play Galactic Conquest a few times. Give me something like that...
If you do... I might even pay for it.
Re: Sony's Sending Out Free PS4 Themes for the Holidays
I am in NA so I probably will not get a code for the frozen wilds. But if I do, I already own it.
If that is the case, I'll give it away to one of you fine pushsquare people. Love this site!
Re: UK Politicians and Campaigners Lobby Against Detroit: Become Human
I don't understand the debate.
It is obvious through the story writing, even in all the different options in how to deal with it, that the message is that domestic violence is bad. How it is going to lead to more abuse by presenting it as a bad thing is beyond me.
If anything it makes your heart ache for real children that are in this situation today. If anything it is masterfully written to make a sick feeling grow in the pit of your stomach.
If anything it draws us all to the very real and present reality that this level of evil exists in the hearts of men. I won't sermonize from there... but PM me if you want to talk about this last point.
Re: Cross-Console Play Between PS4 and Xbox One Was Reality for a Few Hours
There is literally nothing to gain for Sony offering this. And until that changes it won't happen. And next console generation, if Microsoft is winning then, they will be the ones making up some crap about how they can't do it either. If you tear down the cross-network wall, all that matters is the individual experience on that console, which means market share will go to whatever console is the most powerful... and which one is that right now? Xbox One X.
Re: First PS4 Pro and Xbox One X Comparison Fares Unfavourably
All fanboyism aside... do people still care about such differences still? In an age where people are playing 8 bit games, on purpose, because they are FUN.
Obviously it looks gorgeous. For the price... it should. But honestly, it isn't a game changer for me, and unless Microsoft starts stepping it up in the only department that matters, Really fun and exclusive gaming experiences, then this is a very expensive box that will sit on store shelves across the world.
Re: Soapbox: Why PS4's Big 2017 Titles Handle Female Leads the Right Way
@Ralizah I think that is what the author is saying. She seems like a human female. Not eye candy.